Unnecessary Topics, Should be closed Options

[Paradox of Life]

Okay, I was thinking maybe there should be a pinned topic in Feedback where people could post topics that should be closed and haven't been closed yet.

Why? Because I feel like I'm wasting my time actually searching for similar topics and posting them on ones that should be closed. On a lot of occasions, I'll post it there and it won't ever be closed. Why waste my time trying to tidy up cB when I really have no power? So... everyone on cB, mod or not can contribute by posting up threads that should be closed on this one topic. That way people won't feel like they're wasting their time searching.

To prove my point, here's a list of topics waiting to be closed:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...0&#entry1513576
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=55414&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=67131&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=73585&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=18040&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=40668&hl=
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=8477&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=26390&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...9&hl=first+kiss
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=71569&st=0
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=65905&hl=
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=65840&hl=
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...opic=33604&st=0

Also... when mods have nothing better to do, they can just check and see if there are any topics needing to be closed and they can just go close them. There's nothing to lose...

[lovescream]

I don't think that's neccessary. There are already members who post in a topic saying that it has already been made. If mods see that, they can close it. And if even they don't, mods can search themselves and close whenever they can. It's not THAT big of a deal if the topic has already been made, anyways. It's sorta like a v.2 of the topic if it's all the way in the dead.

[*tweeak*]

uh. no.

[*basick*]

i dont think this is necesary

[Paradox of Life]

^ Spam

Well, it wouldn't hurt, would it? And it would help keep cB more tidy.. Yes.. no..?

[*tweeak*]

^shut up. and no, it wouldn't.

[*basick*]

some of you people staffs have great people skills.

[*tweeak*]

absolutely.

well, i used to. now i just don't give a shit.

[Paradox of Life]

^shut up. and no, it wouldn't.

The 'shut up' was directed to me? How rude... Why'd you close my OMFG thread?

[Im So Vain]

I dont see a reason for those topics to be closed. Lighten up.

[*tweeak*]

The 'shut up' was directed to me? How rude... Why'd you close my OMFG thread?

sorry, what? no idea what thread you speak of, but i presume i had a valid reason


and i just looked at your list and the first 3 topics i clicked on had no reason to be closed. that's why we have mods to moderate. we can typically close sensibly. as bitchy as i may be lately, i am a good mod. i make good judgements

[inthemudhole]

sorry, what? no idea what thread you speak of, but i presume i had a valid reason

I believe the thread that Katt is talking about is located here. Sorry to butt in, by the way.

[*tweeak*]

Ooooooooooh that. Well, because it was ridiclous and had no point. It wasn't funny and made little sense, so as far as I could see, there was no reason for it to remain open

[Paradox of Life]

Ooooooooooh that. Well, because it was ridiclous and had no point. It wasn't funny and made little sense, so as far as I could see, there was no reason for it to remain open

... You're a good mod for closing that? People were actually enjoying it and posting comments. Why would you close that? Your reason was 'shut up now'.

[*tweeak*]

People were not enjoying that. If they were, they don't deserve to live. You did need to shut up; it was making my brain melt. You had your fun but it had to end. It was an "unnecessary topic"

[*basick*]

If they were, they don't deserve to live.

[*tweeak*]

Yes, James is having far too much impact on me.

[xquizit]

whoa now. let's all pipe down now and get back to being happy friendly people.

anyhow, i don't think those topics need to be closed. sure, some of them are rather silly but these topics have some point and people are posting and enjoying these topics therefore they're serving some sort of purpose and don't need to be closed.

[Paradox of Life]

People were not enjoying that. If they were, they don't deserve to live. You did need to shut up; it was making my brain melt. You had your fun but it had to end. It was an "unnecessary topic"

... Stephanie didn't close it. It was just you that didn't like the topic so you closed it. Here is some positive feedback I got justifying that it didn't deserve to be closed:

Stephinika:

^^
lol wow.  i like your warning too hehe...

CAUTION: Reading this may cause minor retardation.

suddenly she:

yay, another way to bother people i don't want to talk to.

[Scr3amin][Horror]:

I'll try that one day lol.
Katt your so damn smart lol .
Lmao .

osidepinay33:

niice tactic

purpleyes:

ha. i like the first guy's reaction too. haha i should try that sometime :toungue:

Samiera:

Hahha, I'll try that one day.

Aeyungg xd

ahah yes wonderful

Okay. That's enough. Hm.. I don't think there was a valid reason to close it. But that's not the point. I don't see why my idea is so bad...

[*tweeak*]

the OMFG thread servedd no purpose whatsoever, except perhaps to rot my brain. i personally think it fits more appropriately on the list than the list does

edit after reading previous post:// so? people often close topics other mods had posted in

[Paradox of Life]

the OMFG thread servedd no purpose whatsoever, except perhaps to rot my brain. i personally think it fits more appropriately on the list  than the list does

... 'Except perhaps to rot MY brain.' Hm.. someone's being a bit self-centered, no?

[*tweeak*]

no. james and i were both sitting there moaning.

[Paradox of Life]

no. james and i were both sitting there moaning.

You and James. That's 2 people. In comparison to all the people who didn't find any harm in that topic...

[*basick*]

how come stephanie (stephnika), another mod, wasnt moaning there with you? this elitist attitude is clouding your judgement

[*tweeak*]

Lots of people don't find harm in smoking weed but that doesn't make it legal. there's a reason not everyone a mod

steven, just because we're both mods doesn't mean we always agree on everything. it wasn't elitist and it sure as hell isn't worth reopening

[Paradox of Life]

... Of course.. But personally I don't think you deserve to be a mod. You take advantage of your powers. There are a lot of people who have applied for staff that deserve the position more than you. Like Kiera and Lorena.

[*basick*]

steven, just because we're both mods doesn't mean we always agree on everything. it wasn't elitist and it sure as hell isn't worth reopening

the reason you closed the topic was because you didn't like it. what is next - you deleting posts from members photo because you dont like the way the member looks? you deleting poems from writing because they aren't good enough? please

[*tweeak*]

... Of course.. But personally I don't think you deserve to be a mod. You take advantage of your powers. There are a lot of people who have applied for staff that deserve the position more than you. Like Kiera and Lorena. 

Shame it's not up to you. Besdies which, you really haven't been around long enough to judge appropriately. You're just bitter because I thought your topic was stupid so you're taking out on me by making it look like I'm something I'm not. Suck it up. That's not the world works- people will disagree with you and you'll have to learn to deal

the reason you closed the topic was because you didn't like it. what is next - you deleting posts from members photo because you dont like the way the member looks? you deleting poems from writing because they aren't good enough? please

that's not only ridiculus but completely irrelevant as well.

[*basick*]

that's not only ridiculus but completely irrelevant as well.

how is it completely irrelevant? both hypothetical examples i gave were scenerios in which the person with power closes topics because is it not to her liking. the topic "omfg" did not break any rules at all, and i suppose it could have been moved to humor for the comical value.

& congratulations on your 9000th post !

[Paradox of Life]

Shame it's not up to you. Besdies which, you really haven't been around long enough to judge appropriately. You're just bitter because I thought your topic was stupid so you're taking out on me by making it look like I'm something I'm not. Suck it up. That's not the world works- people will disagree with you and you'll have to learn to deal
that's not only ridiculus but completely irrelevant as well.

Goodness, you treat me as if I don't know already. Yes, people a person is disagreeing with me right now. Learn to deal. Hm.. yes..

I think I've been here long enough to understand who is a good or bad moderator. I can judge appropriately because it's COMMON SENSE which apparently you have very little of. It seems you aren't understanding what me and Steven are trying to explain to you. MY TOPIC WAS NOT VIOLATING THE RULES. YOU CLOSED IT BECAUSE YOU PERSONALLY DIDN'T LIKE IT. + James. I'm not mad at you because you closed my topic. It's because of the reason you decided to close it. For yourself and James. That's abusing your powers as a moderator.

Edit//

Whoo! 9000. Wow. Congrats.

[*tweeak*]

drop it. i refuse to debate over every topic i close, especially since i'm right 80+% of the time. it was irrelevant for the matter of common sense

wheee for 9001

Goodness, you treat me as if I don't know already. Yes, people a person is disagreeing with me right now. Learn to deal. Hm.. yes..

I think I've been here long enough to understand who is a good or bad moderator. I can judge appropriately because it's COMMON SENSE which apparently you have very little of. It seems you aren't understanding what me and Steven are trying to explain to you. MY TOPIC WAS NOT VIOLATING THE RULES. YOU CLOSED IT BECAUSE YOU PERSONALLY DIDN'T LIKE IT. + James. I'm not mad at you because you closed my topic. It's because of the reason you decided to close it. For yourself and James. That's abusing your powers as a moderator.

you don't seem to.

and no, it's really not. you're taking this too personally. typically, i close topics that directly violate rules. that one did a good enough job grinding my nerves that i closed it as well. you can't say i'm a bad mod because of that. you're being judgemental when apperently you don't understand thse simple concepts

[heyyfrankie]

guys, guys ... GUYS!! 'tis not the time nor place to decide who is a good moderator and who should be mods. now, let's all just chill out.

BACK TO TOPIC

no, that thread would be...uh...idk what it would be but we dont' need it. instead of just posting int the thread saying that it needed to be closed, just simply PM a moderator. that would work 32984328 times better than making a thread which we have to click, read yada yada yada yada....................

EDIT;; and for the record, nicki is a GREAT mod she's just been going through some major mood swings.

This post has been edited by Frankie: Aug 1 2005, 01:59 AM

[toodlepops.]

Okay, Katt, you sound a little over-reacting right now.
If a mod sees an unnecessary topic, they'll close it, problem solved.
If they don't see it, someone's gonna tell them to close it sooner or later so chill.

[*tweeak*]

[james] i am her mood swings. and also, you're being silly, katt. none of the responses you quoted as being justification for the thread being open had any weight to them what so ever.... they were like cotton candy

'niceee tactic'

how is that remotely worth saving?

and for the record, dont lets start criticsising mods, because i can go off on a tangent about that all day long, so dont tempt me. nicki pwns.

end of
[/james]

[*tweeak*]

technically i'm double posting, but deal with it, because it's going to be long, and we don't want my post to be a page long. we can pretend that last one was actually james. i'm not abusing my power; i'm being practical

look at the responces from the OMFG that you conveniently "forgot" to point out:

im hungry

this was the first responce. immediate spam. plus, it was from steven, who was defening you. there's a team.

[james] also, how much did that comment want to be seon ho's[/james]

ROFL. Dork.

wow    hahah

interesting.

OMFG.

and frankie is a mod...

lmao, you're such a retard!

ooooh member bashing

niice tactic

OMFG!

the entire topic was full spam. there were other stupid responces as well, but they actually had multiple words. but even so, there wasn't a single responce that had any actual content. steph's was te closest, but ok, that's one redeemig comment out of the other 28.

[Paradox of Life]

Yeah, I guess I am over-reacting. Sorry.

[*tweeak*]

0[james] that's perfectly alright dear. just try harder not to be ludicrous next time.

*smiles in the most obnoxious way imaginable*

[/james]

[beautifuls0ul_x3]

I don't think this is such a good idea. If we have cBers saying which topics need to be closed and whatnot, then that would cause a huge chaos. They will be arguing and disagreeing constantly. It's the mod's job to see unnecessary topics and close them. I don't think cBers should be involved. They will probably just drive them crazy.

[*disco infiltrator*]

^ It's no bother, really. You're supposed to do that. :] It's better than having 20 people post "this should be closed" in the thread itself. That doesn't help us find it.

[iiTsDAYNA]

... Of course.. But personally I don't think you deserve to be a mod. You take advantage of your powers. There are a lot of people who have applied for staff that deserve the position more than you. Like Kiera and Lorena. 

^^ I agree with that...

i don't know..i PM a lot of mods a day about topics that need to be closed/moved/merged..
it makes me feel like i'm bothering them.

i think it's a good idea

^^ with that too. There are alot of POINTLESS topics out there..

[*mipadi*]

^ It's no bother, really. You're supposed to do that. :] It's better than having 20 people post "this should be closed" in the thread itself. That doesn't help us find it.

Funny you should mention that. I've been thinking as of late that there should be a way to let moderators know of topics that should be closed (due to being redundant) or moved. I've sometimes been tempted to report them, but I think reporting is supposed to be only used in the case of an offensive topic and the like; furthermore, I seem to recall that reported topics alert every single moderator and seem fairly overkill for a topic that is redundant or misplaced. Perhaps there should be a way to report redundent topics or ones that need to be moved, similar to the reporting system but not as urgent.

Or, PM's could just be used, I guess, if that is considered acceptable to all the moderators.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Yea just..PM one moderator from that section.

The reason we don't want topics that need to be closed or something reported is cause it sends it to ALL moderators of that section, which is really annoying to people staff since there's so many. If one mod fixes the problem, then the other 11 click on it and it's already closed, it gets really annoying.

Also, people STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPORT AND REPLY. It's very very annoying to recieve 10 of the same report only to open the PM and see "why isnt my post working?!?!?!"

[demolished]

Weird, i dont see why do the mod have to close it.
The topic was very entertaining to me.


ok ok ok. shh. i'll shush.

[*disco infiltrator*]

^ What are you talking about?

[beautifuls0ul_x3]

I believe he's talking about one of the topics that was closed.

Perhaps the one Katt was talking about?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=91979

Or the ones that are on the first page.

[lKVNiiKINKYl]

People were not enjoying that. If they were, they don't deserve to live. You did need to shut up; it was making my brain melt. You had your fun but it had to end. It was an "unnecessary topic"

it actually was funny

[racoons > you]

^
then you need mental assistance

also, seriously, what sammi said. just PM. DONT waste everyone's time by posting in the thread

[Paradox of Life]

So I need mental assistance? How conceited are you to say that?

[racoons > you]

very. but thats old news.

roll with it

= )

[*xcaitlinx*]

People were not enjoying that. If they were, they don't deserve to live. You did need to shut up; it was making my brain melt. You had your fun but it had to end. It was an "unnecessary topic"

since when were you the spokesperson of over 100,000 members of cB? i'm sorry but the world does not revolve around you.

[racoons > you]

no... it revolves around the rules... and the rules say that worthless topics should be closed. so it was.

thats not THAT hard, surely

[*tweeak*]

would i be considered a really bad mod if i told you to f**k off?

[james]yes. but you would be a lovely person[/james]

[*xcaitlinx*]

are you talking to me?

[Paradox of Life]

since when were you the spokesperson of over 100,000 members of cB? i'm sorry but the world does not revolve around you.

no... it revolves around the rules... and the rules say that worthless topics should be closed. so it was.

thats not THAT hard, surely

And since when was that topic a worthless topic and what harm was it doing to CB? It's simple logic. If something is disrupting cB, you close it. What harm was that topic doing? None. And it does have as much entertainment as a lot of other topics out there like the ones Yula and Jason make that don't get closed.

[*tweeak*]

[james] nicki closes jason and yula's topics almost on insticnt, so you really cant fault her for that

your topic was gerating spam and pointless one line responses, as well as being ludicrously image heavy. now STOP WHINING

oh, and cayte, yes she was talking to you
[/james]

[*xcaitlinx*]

ohmygod...did you know that they have these little pills labeled "PMS" for people like youuu??

edit // i mean PMS, not pm's.

[*mipadi*]

little pills labeled "pms"

This is the sort of time when an apostrophe (or at least capitalization) is almost a necessity.

[Rachel]

ohmygod...did you know that they have these little pills labeled "pms" for people like youuu??

ohmygod, do you know how lame that was? Also, I am pretty sure youuu is not a word in the english language. Secondly, get off of Nicki's back. She did the right thing and you are just being a bitch. She is the "spokesperson" because she is a MOD. Jusun hired her to keep this place in line.

Roar.

[*xcaitlinx*]

ohmygod, do you know how lame that was? Also, I am pretty sure youuu is not a word in the english language. Secondly, get off of Nicki's back. She did the right thing and you are just being a bitch. She is the "spokesperson" because she is a MOD. Jusun hired her to keep this place in line.

Roar.

English language my ass. how about you stop analyzing every little thing that someone says, like "OMG SHE USED YOUUU INSTEAD OF YOU!!!!" It's really irritating and it doesn't make you look any smarter.

[Rachel]

Hmm, did you only read the first few sentences?

I don't do it to look smarter, I do it to piss you off idiot.

[*xcaitlinx*]

Hmm, did you only read the first few sentences?

I don't do it to look smarter, I do it to piss you off idiot.

Uhhh..ok. Thanks, a-hole.



oh, yeah. i forgot to say that i think that the IDEA of having this is good, but it's practically impossible to make it happen. People would post the same topics that need to be closed over and over again. This would create spam and confusion.

[Rachel]

My first reply wasn't focused on your spelling. It was focused on how you were stupid for bitching at Nicki. She is only doing her job, lay off.

Kthanks

[*xcaitlinx*]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...9&hl=omfg&st=25

If she is supposedly doing her job, then how come on the "omfg" topic, she closes it and says "shut up now". To me, that isn't a valid reason to close a topic. She could've put "This topic is closed because ______."

[*autumn.*]

she closed it because it was generating spam.

[Rachel]

Your topic was pointless and all the replies were just the same and full of spam. I don't see how your topic contributed anything, all it did was help lower my IQ.

edit Thanks Autumn.

[Paradox of Life]

Maybe you people just need to loosen up once in a while. Not everything has to have a valid reason to stay open. It isn't going to harm anyone because a few people are increasing their post count by 1 or 2 posts.

[*mipadi*]

I think that if you have a big problem with a thread being closed, it's more appropriate to PM a moderator or an administrator, rather than discussing it at great length.

[Paradox of Life]

I think that if you have a big problem with a thread being closed, it's more appropriate to PM a moderator or an administrator, rather than discussing it at great length.

It's not a matter of the topic being closed but how the staff members are abusing their powers. And that's a bigger problem.

[Rachel]

^If you are referring to this case specifically, I'd disagree. Nicki was not "abusing" her power as a mod.

[*mipadi*]

I'd have to agree with crazyjew. I think one case does not automatically equal "abusing powers". If it happened a string of times, that might be different; but in this single case, PM'ing a mod might be a better option. Who knows? You might even get them to reopen it if you approach them in a respectable manner.

I would agree that if a mod is going to lock a thread, giving a reason rather than "just shut up" could be more acceptable, but that's a different argument.

[heyyfrankie]

It's not a matter of the topic being closed but how the staff members are abusing their powers. And that's a bigger problem.

i concur with rachel. i don't think that nicki was abusing any power. the topic was generating spam so it wouldn't it make sense to close it. and i don't think that any of the moderators abuse their powers AT ALL. but if there is, please say who now so that we can it straightened out ASAP.

[Paradox of Life]

I'd have to agree with crazyjew. I think one case does not automatically equal "abusing powers". If it happened a string of times, that might be different; but in this single case, PM'ing a mod might be a better option. Who knows? You might even get them to reopen it if you approach them in a respectable manner.

I would agree that if a mod is going to lock a thread, giving a reason rather than "just shut up" could be more acceptable, but that's a different argument.

I think this is the most reasonable response I've read in this whole thread. 'Doesn't really matter to me this one time, but if it happens again, I'm obviously going to be upset. And Frankie, I'm going to complain to you.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Wow. Ok.

1. Let's stop with the petty insults and comebacks. Seriously, how old are we all?
2. Katt, if Nicki closed your topic, oh well. That's not abusing her powers, it's using her judgement. Sure, she didn't give the best response when closing it, I'll give you that, but she has now explained why she closed it, so just roll with it. If it's really that big of a deal, complain to the people that hired her and they'll probably give you some good reasons about why she's a mod. Don't complain to her or Frankie or any of us; there's not exactly something we could do about it even if we agreed. You're known for being mature about things and having your topic closed really isn't that big of a deal.

[Paradox of Life]

Blah. I'm not fussing over my topic. I'm fussing because I just like to fuss. I can't be mature all the time.

[racoons > you]

but... but... i like the pettiness...

[*not_your_average*]

Ok, seriously. C'mon people, listen to Sammi. Be mature. And your topic did generate spam, Katt. If it was closed, it was closed.

[Paradox of Life]

Man. You guys seriously don't know how to take a joke...

[YourSuperior]

I hate when people bring up old shit.

I agree 100% with you on that. Like somebody brought back the months old tobic about the new staff members.

[heyyfrankie]

^ they didn't "bring it back up" because those topic don't bump back up when replied upon.

[silent whisper]

i don't know if this is spam or not --> about closing topics, for example in webdesign if you were asking about how to do something, and no one has responded in a while mods can't close topics if the topic creator has not comfirmed that they understand.
example

quote taken from example:

Because the original topic creator still hasn't replied. Meh. I can't really close it until they reply....

[racoons > you]

^

perhaps there should be an alternative? such as, closed after the creator replies, OR after a certain amount of time, if its still hanging around on the first page?

eh, what do i know, i dont even use te webdesign forums, but still, just an idea

[talcumpowder]

That's my personal thing. I don't like closing things because then I get 50575373476 new topics I need to close simply because I closed the first one. Which they could've still posted in. That's why a lot of the Xanga Help topics are still open. Because people make the topic and never say "thank you" or anything so I can close it... Make any sense?