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| *Azarel* |
 Jun 27 2005, 02:47 AM
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I've noticed that a lot of people that apply to be official members only do it for the xanga tools and thus let their ppd drop after getting the status. And since I'm so anal, I guess this thread is to inform of member with a ppd less than 5.
YOUDRIVIN_MEGRAPES lickthepavement malsnave tangerineChic Chyn020 (1.8, wow) Biblesterr743 alice1017 Ladii_em kryzcoak47luv666 BOAmusics --x who0ps Wishful_Dream thatgirlmarcy greedybunny92 pingpang_0811 pAtRiCk_sTar swe3ttemptasian perplexism captured_serenity DrNick311 EmeraldKnight StarryEyedSurprize CloudUnionX shawty_redd Luster Soldier jr0h And there were some official members I swear to you have raised warning levels that haven't lost their status. (Jason, Steven, Elba, etc.) |
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| *wind&fire* |
Jun 27 2005, 03:07 AM
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was this from yesterday?
pshhhyeh.. shouldnt the demotion be automatic? and how the heck did you compile them ALL |
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Jun 27 2005, 03:31 AM
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 t3h koolest guy in cB  Group: Member Posts: 2,194 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 513 |
f**k outta here.. thats amzing
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Jun 27 2005, 03:34 AM
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 :hammer: Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,849 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,700 |
Yeah, usually Christina's always anal and paranoid about official members' statuses, but I don't know where she is.
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Jun 27 2005, 06:22 AM
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 katie fox is love. Group: Member Posts: 530 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,798 |
Give 'em a break, I mean some people arn't always on.
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Jun 27 2005, 06:34 AM
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 Holla if ya hate me Group: Member Posts: 2,386 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 80,819 |
QUOTE(Gir @ Jun 27 2005, 6:22 AM) Give 'em a break, I mean some people arn't always on.  Yeah what this foo' said |
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Jun 27 2005, 06:34 AM
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t3h koolest guy in cB Group: Member Posts: 2,194 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 513 |
QUOTE(Funky Buddha @ Jun 27 2005, 6:34 AM) Yeah what this foo' said co sign |
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Jun 27 2005, 06:45 AM
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katie fox is love. Group: Member Posts: 530 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,798 |
Sure Wayne,
nice sig, FB. |
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Jun 27 2005, 07:28 AM
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 This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
QUOTE(x_angawhomps @ Jun 27 2005, 2:34 AM) Yeah, usually Christina's always anal and paranoid about official members' statuses, but I don't know where she is. remember, eve? christina went to palm springs for a while!  and i'm happy that you did this anna.  i notified roxy about a few officials that had gotten warned but i guess she was just waiting to do them later? 
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| *mipadi* |
Jun 27 2005, 08:16 AM
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You should alphabetize that list.
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Jun 27 2005, 10:26 AM
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 say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
I thought the mods would check regularly to demote unactive official members back to members... but clearly it's not that strict.
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Jun 27 2005, 10:34 AM
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This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
QUOTE(niez_cho @ Jun 27 2005, 9:26 AM) I thought the mods would check regularly to demote unactive official members back to members... but clearly it's not that strict. well, as of the moment...only 2 people can change the groups of official members and members and mods...yada yada yada. |
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Jun 27 2005, 10:55 AM
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 Day's Nearly Over Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,553 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 45,183 |
I remember checking PPDs at one time and telling Kathleen when she was admin. Mwahahah, that was fun.
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Jun 27 2005, 11:10 AM
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 Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
QUOTE well, as of the moment...only 2 people can change the groups of official members and members and mods...yada yada yada. then why not give that power to head staff as well? for the sake of convenience... i mean, with christina away at the moment, its only roxy, and if there is a list that long, then she could use eve and mona's help |
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Jun 27 2005, 11:13 AM
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This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
^ i'll see what i can do.
 EDIT;; wait...if they gave the power to demote official members...than that would have to have access to the adminCP...  so that wouldn't make them head staff...it would make them admins. 
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Jun 27 2005, 11:40 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
you can give head staff the power to demote members without giving them the powers to, say create subforums or that kind of thing
because im head staff on genf, ad can access admin cp, while ariel is admin, and can do some stuff i cant, i'm pretty sure |
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| *Weird addiction* |
Jun 27 2005, 11:42 AM
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^ you can't do that. Only admins can access the permission masks...
If you have admin cp, that means you can do EVERYTHING... IMO |
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Jun 27 2005, 11:59 AM
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 wanderlust personified. Group: Official Designer Posts: 7,515 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 797 |
Thanks for the list Anna. I'm working on it now.
// Edit. Whew. That was a lot of work. So this should be a reminder to those of you who want to retain your Official Member status. Keep your post counts up but please don't spam. |
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Jun 27 2005, 01:18 PM
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This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Jun 27 2005, 10:10 AM) then why not give that power to head staff as well? for the sake of convenience... i mean, with christina away at the moment, its only roxy, and if there is a list that long, then she could use eve and mona's help we've decided that we are going to keep the way it is. the admins would like for the superMODS to keep a look out for the whole forum while the they, themselves, do all of the fuctions with officials and designers and all that stuff.
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Jun 27 2005, 06:31 PM
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katie fox is love. Group: Member Posts: 530 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,798 |
People who get official member are looking for mod positions.
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Jun 27 2005, 06:48 PM
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 The Texan Group: Member Posts: 430 Joined: May 2005 Member No: 136,431 |
Good work,
An yes, some people arn't online, but that's why not everyone is an official member. It's a commitment, if you won't be on for X # of days then you need Xx5 posts that day. Planning people! |
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Jun 27 2005, 07:00 PM
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katie fox is love. Group: Member Posts: 530 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,798 |
Actually, If you're going to be gone for the summer, how much do you need to post? Hm. 5 X 3months?
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| *Azarel* |
Jun 27 2005, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(x_angawhomps @ Jun 27 2005, 1:34 AM) Yeah, usually Christina's always anal and paranoid about official members' statuses, but I don't know where she is. She got a job at Jamba Juice, so she's pretty busy.QUOTE(Gir @ Jun 27 2005, 4:22 AM) Give 'em a break, I mean some people arn't always on. ... in order for ppd to drop that drastically, that means the people probably have left cB all together or are just inactive. ...
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Jun 27 2005, 09:23 PM
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katie fox is love. Group: Member Posts: 530 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,798 |
Some members arn't on 24/7 like you, sorry that's just not how it goes.
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| *x____duckii* |
Jun 27 2005, 09:43 PM
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Seriously, people, you don't have to be on 24/7 to maintain your ppd.
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Jun 27 2005, 09:47 PM
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The Texan Group: Member Posts: 430 Joined: May 2005 Member No: 136,431 |
I mean, I was gone for quite a while, but for me to have a 5.0 ppd I need 50 posts in one daym or 20 posts spread out among days.
Ever since I got my cB addiction, I've made an easy20-40 ppd, without spam. It's not a matter of pain, it's a matter of fun ^_^ |
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Jun 27 2005, 10:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,575 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,957 |
QUOTE(OmG_iTz_KiMi @ Jun 27 2005, 7:08 PM) Well, if they haven't maintain a average of 5.0 daily post, why are they still offical members? ...that's the point of this thread. QUOTE(Azarel @ Jun 26 2005, 11:47 PM) And since I'm so anal, I guess this thread is to inform of member with a ppd less than 5.
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Jun 28 2005, 12:33 AM
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:hammer: Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,849 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,700 |
Christina got a job at Jamba Juice ?!
 Shoot, I'll get a job at Starbucks !
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Jun 28 2005, 09:18 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
QUOTE we've decided that we are going to keep the way it is. the admins would like for the superMODS to keep a look out for the whole forum while the they, themselves, do all of the fuctions with officials and designers and all that stuff. yeah fai renough. i dont really think it woul dmake that much difference anyway, just that roxy may have wanted some help she has it under control though = ) |
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Jun 28 2005, 09:39 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 230 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 147,789 |
I agree that most offical member is just posting to use the tools
and half of the reasons why I'm active is also to keep the post count above 5. The tools are the reasons why people would like to become an official member, isn't? But true, I think the mod/staff should keep an eye of the official member's post count to keep the forum goin. |
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Jun 28 2005, 02:57 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 7,048 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,696 |
QUOTE(yycleo @ Jun 28 2005, 10:39 AM) I agree that most offical member is just posting to use the tools and half of the reasons why I'm active is also to keep the post count above 5. The tools are the reasons why people would like to become an official member, isn't? But true, I think the mod/staff should keep an eye of the official member's post count to keep the forum goin. Hrm, what? Most official members is just posting to use the tools? Are you serious? I honestly don't notice many of the official members using the tools that often. |
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Jun 28 2005, 03:28 PM
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 i need an sn change. Group: Member Posts: 1,915 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,746 |
rawr. i lost my title.
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| *Azarel* |
Jun 28 2005, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jun 28 2005, 12:57 PM) Are you serious? I honestly don't notice many of the official members using the tools that often. I was referring to the people I saw applying for official member status.QUOTE(blowpops69 @ Jun 28 2005, 1:28 PM) rawr. i lost my title. ... that's your own fault. .. And it's not really relevant to the thread.
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Jun 28 2005, 05:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 7,048 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,696 |
QUOTE(Azarel @ Jun 28 2005, 4:31 PM) I was referring to the people I saw applying for official member status. ... that's your own fault. .. And it's not really relevant to the thread. Oh no, my voice was to "yycleo". =] I did quote him though. I thought that would make it less confusing. |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
Jul 13 2005, 10:04 AM
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o0o so that's why I'm not an official member anymore. Meh.
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Jul 13 2005, 10:48 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Duplicate Posts: 1,912 Joined: May 2005 Member No: 137,527 |
QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Jul 13 2005, 11:04 AM) o0o so that's why I'm not an official member anymore. Meh. Your's is because of your warning level 
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Jul 13 2005, 11:00 AM
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This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
^ she already figured that out...that's why she said oh, so that's why i'm not an official member.
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Jul 14 2005, 06:23 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
ou tof interest, if elba and i were warned for the same thing, which we were, then why was my level decreased and hers not?
or was her's higher than mine? |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
Jul 14 2005, 10:47 AM
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^Mine was decreased. It's at 0 again.
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Jul 14 2005, 10:50 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
how was europe?
then surely you ought to be put back as an official member? |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
Jul 14 2005, 10:52 AM
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Yeah, I guess I should be, but I'm not, for the same reason I wasn't demoted as soon as I was warned
 If that made any sense. Europe was aiight. That reminds me: I have to get the pics up. |
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Jul 14 2005, 10:53 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
it did make sense.
i just thought it odd that we go twarned at the same time, bu tyou were demotted and i wasnt. which i supose shoul dmake me happy, but really makes me feel left out. how odd |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
Jul 14 2005, 11:12 AM
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"And there were some official members I swear to you have raised warning levels that haven't lost their status. (Jason, Steven, Elba, etc.) "
You weren't named... the only reason I was is because I was named. But we all already knew that. |
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| *disco infiltrator* |
Jul 14 2005, 11:58 AM
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I think he was meant to be part of the "etc.". Perhaps Rox just forgot. There's a lot she has to keep track of. Must've slipped her mind.
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Jul 14 2005, 10:19 PM
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 unify and defeat... divide and crumble Group: Member Posts: 2,759 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,379 |
It doesn't take a 24/7 CBer to maintain a 5 ppd....I mean i was gone for 6 months, and my ppd didn't even dropped all of like, 1.....I guess I probably shouldn't be talking cuz i'm not an official member myself, but honestly ....1.8?? that's cheap
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Jul 14 2005, 10:58 PM
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 My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
QUOTE(x____duckii @ Jun 27 2005, 8:43 PM) Seriously, people, you don't have to be on 24/7 to maintain your ppd. I know. I didn't log on for the first month or so I joined CB and I have my post count over 5.. I think the people who don't log on for several months without alerting the staff should be considered unregistered. Just for the sake of organization and not having idle members still floating around. And so this "official member with inadequate PPD" list would be shorter because we wouldn't have to worry about them. |
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| *Azarel* |
Jul 15 2005, 02:35 PM
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Finally.
Demote me. Warning level raised. |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
Jul 15 2005, 02:54 PM
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^Give it a few days.
While you guys are at it, make me an official member again. |
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| *Azarel* |
Jul 15 2005, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Jul 15 2005, 12:54 PM) ^Give it a few days. Just letting them know. ;x
While you guys are at it, make me an official member again. |
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Jul 15 2005, 03:56 PM
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:hammer: Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,849 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,700 |
QUOTE(Azarel @ Jun 27 2005, 5:13 PM) She got a job at Jamba Juice, so she's pretty busy. ... in order for ppd to drop that drastically, that means the people probably have left cB all together or are just inactive. ... Oh yeah, Christina never got a job at Jamba Juice. She's still in Palm Springs. |
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| *Azarel* |
Jul 15 2005, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(x_angawhomps @ Jul 15 2005, 1:56 PM) Oh yeah, Christina never got a job at Jamba Juice. She's still in Palm Springs. wth? :[ Me and Jose called her one day and she said she was at work.
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Jul 15 2005, 03:57 PM
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:hammer: Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,849 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,700 |
She works at her sister's store.. yup.
Where'd Jamba Juice come from ?
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Jul 15 2005, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(x_angawhomps @ Jul 15 2005, 1:57 PM) She works at her sister's store.. yup. I dunno; I just assumed 'work' and she told me she'd applied at Jamba Juice. Ugh. This is why she needs to come back.
Where'd Jamba Juice come from ? |
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Jul 15 2005, 04:00 PM
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:hammer: Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,849 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,700 |
QUOTE(Azarel @ Jul 15 2005, 1:59 PM) I dunno; I just assumed 'work' and she told me she'd applied at Jamba Juice. Ugh. This is why she needs to come back. Yeah.. she got rejected. And from Panda Express too. She said she'll try to be back as soon as possibleeeeee. |
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| *mzkandi* |
Jul 29 2005, 08:42 AM
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LOVE machine x -ppd 3.8
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| *suddenly she* |
Aug 2 2005, 11:21 PM
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this seems relevant, so i thought i'd bring it up.
now that we have a pinned topic on absences in the lounge, we can see who's gone and who isn't. my idea is that official members who post get their ppd "frozen" until the day they say they'll come back, regardless of when they actually decide to post that they are. that made almost no sense. |
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| *mzkandi* |
Aug 2 2005, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(suddenly she @ Aug 3 2005, 12:21 AM) this seems relevant, so i thought i'd bring it up. now that we have a pinned topic on absences in the lounge, we can see who's gone and who isn't. my idea is that official members who post get their ppd "frozen" until the day they say they'll come back, regardless of when they actually decide to post that they are. that made almost no sense. That could lead to alot of problems. What is they dont come back within the timeframe they are suppose to? Or just make up an absense because, lets say, they are too lazy to post but dont want their ppd to go down. In the offical member thread there is a remedy for this QUOTE I'm going to be on a trip for several weeks. How can i not be demoted in that time?
A: Post like a mad dog... here is a chart. 1 day away- post 5 posts more than usual. 2 days- post 10 posts more than you usually would 3 days- post 15 more than you usually would, and so forth. Basically, calculate how many posts you must post in order to at least stay 5 posts a day on the average. Then, post but DO NOT SPAM. |
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Aug 4 2005, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(mzkandi @ Aug 3 2005, 12:29 AM) That could lead to alot of problems. What is they dont come back within the timeframe they are suppose to? that's their fault. but i guess it doesn't matter. 
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Aug 4 2005, 11:22 AM
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wanderlust personified. Group: Official Designer Posts: 7,515 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 797 |
QUOTE(suddenly she @ Aug 2 2005, 11:21 PM) this seems relevant, so i thought i'd bring it up. now that we have a pinned topic on absences in the lounge, we can see who's gone and who isn't. my idea is that official members who post get their ppd "frozen" until the day they say they'll come back, regardless of when they actually decide to post that they are. that made almost no sense. Sorry but theres no way to "freeze" PPDs. The only solution is to post frequently, perhaps more than 5 times a day, to keep your PPD up even during such circumstances in which one is away. |
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Aug 16 2005, 06:30 PM
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 *scribble scribble* Group: Member Posts: 1,314 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 119,610 |
QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jun 28 2005, 3:57 PM) Hrm, what? Most official members is just posting to use the tools? Are you serious? I honestly don't notice many of the official members using the tools that often. i didnt even know we had tools.
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Sep 1 2005, 01:38 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
tofumonzter's PPD has dropped below 5 and is still an official member.
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Sep 27 2005, 05:55 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
QUOTE(brownsugar08 @ Sep 27 2005, 11:57 AM) Libertie Not an official member but an official designer--with a 1.2 PPD. ..wait, do Offical Designers have a PPD requirement? Nope. Read the official designers topic and you'll know. 
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Oct 4 2005, 05:34 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
I remember reporting that Long (tofumonzter)'s PPD has dropped below 5, but I just checked that he is still an official member.
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Oct 15 2005, 03:22 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
^ Sorry for double posting, but it seems like the members Suzzette and I posted up there are still official members. I wonder if the admins check this topic...
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Oct 15 2005, 11:34 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Posts: 8,274 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,001 |
Can someone move this topic to a sub forum called “Announcement” or at least pin this topic? This useful thread will show up and help notify the administrations better. It'll be easier to browse this thread.
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Oct 22 2005, 10:49 PM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Oct 16 2005, 12:34 PM) Can someone move this topic to a sub forum called “Announcement” or at least pin this topic? This useful thread will show up and help notify the administrations better. It'll be easier to browse this thread. I agree. It seems like the admins aren't really checking this topic at all...
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Oct 25 2005, 11:31 PM
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 durian Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 |
QUOTE(niez_cho @ Aug 31 2005, 10:38 PM) He hasn't been back for a long time... I'm keeping him at Official Designer because he submitted 16 layouts, and I'm also hoping he'll come back. What I was asked was to demote past moderators' member group to Official Member, but you're completely right about the whole warning--ANY official member warned will be demoted from now on, no matter what their past status was. Although, the only exception was that I wanted to keep ex-moderators at Official Member status, even if they fall behind 5 ppd. The thing is, they did a lot for the community, and I don't want to deny them of something they deserved (such as xanga tools, larger pm storage), only if they still posted here, even if it was occassionally. |
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Nov 2 2005, 12:19 AM
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durian Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 |
Although double-posting is bad, I wanted to bump up this topic and say that I've demoted quite a few Official Members due to their Posts Per Day average and/or warning levels. If I missed anyone that should've been demoted, please post in this topic. Thanks.
BTW, I will do this routine check every week. Some members are on the verge of being demoted, so keep on posting. :] Also, there are some members that were former moderators and I'd like to keep to as Official Members, even if they're PPD is low,unless it drops below 4, then I will demote them. Sounds fair? |
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Nov 2 2005, 04:54 AM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
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yes its fair, they have contributed a lot to cb in their time, and should still be able to take advantage of special lofficial features and whatnot |
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Nov 2 2005, 10:35 PM
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 ^ Mrs. Jonas Group: Member Posts: 592 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 263,313 |
^ agreed. It's like a retirement plan for mods.
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Nov 12 2005, 07:17 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
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Nov 12 2005, 08:08 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 979 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 205,020 |
i'm down to 4.9, and i will most likely keep dropping.
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Nov 17 2005, 11:21 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 538 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 75,615 |
QUOTE(je like french @ Nov 12 2005, 8:08 PM) i'm down to 4.9, and i will most likely keep dropping. ...not if you keep on posting! |
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| *disco infiltrator* |
Nov 18 2005, 03:35 PM
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Alright guys, I don't think there's all too much reason for concern when the PPD has only dropped to 4.9...I don't think that should be so urgent that it needs to be pointed out.
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| *mzkandi* |
Sep 7 2006, 10:01 AM
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Thanks for the list. =]
Everything's done with the expectation of paopuu, this member meets the minimal requirements. |
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| *Azarel* |
Sep 7 2006, 12:50 PM
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^ Oops, my bad.
 And Kiera, 
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| *wind&fire* |
Sep 8 2006, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(Azarel @ Sep 7 2006, 7:43 PM) woohoo... im feeling loved right now... i was waiting till someone bumped me down... |
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