should we have a suggestion forum?, please participate everyone! Options

[micron]

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[Rachel]

Yes, I think it would calm a lot of people down. It would also allow people to express their ideas to more than just a few mods.

[IamRad]

hmm i think we should.

[sammi rules you]

oh look, everyone gets to vote.

are you people happy now?

[sandy_lumpy_shor...]

yeah i think we should. itd be good for people to give there ideas instead of making hundreds of topics about how crappy something and posting into the lounge

[*mona lisa*]

A whole forum dedicated to it is pretty pointless in my opinion. If people actually wrote decent or adequate responses in the Moderator Performance thread, that would be nice. And if there was a whole forum for it, wouldn't it get out of control? Wouldn't it be an opportunity for both members and moderators to be bashed upon?

Oh, I'm pretty sure they're happy, Sammi.

[*krnxswat*]

I don't think it's necessary.
Afterall, all people have to suggest is like 3 or 4 things, so it's just basically a forum to spam and just a waste of space.
If they really have a suggestion, they can bring it up to the moderators. Or even talk to them AIM/MSN.
That's what happened when I was an admin. People suggested things, and I considered it. We even got a few of them to work.

MY LAST 2 CENTS.

[Rachel]

Then why not have a PINNED topic about it. Suggestions for the forum are different then the mod topic dears.

And Sammi and Mona- Now really, how is that (your little sarcastic remarks) going to help?

[racoons > you]

*claps to rachel*

yes, sammi, im thrilled

yes we should have suggestions forum. regular members need a place to express their views somewherewhere they will not automatically be told to be quiet and accept the decisions given to them

its a brilliant idea

[Miss[x]Tiff]

yay finally some way to calm everyone down a little. =D

I think we should have a suggestion forum, how would anyone know how many posts would be in this forum if it hasnt even been put up yet? i say set it up see how it goes, if its pointless in 4 months or so then take it down. Mods have their own forum for suggestion so should the regular members were part of CB too.

and sarcasm isnt gonna help much, keep it positive =]

[iheartsimba]

Well..I don't think we should have a forum..like Rachel said, maybe jus a pinned topic. Then again, I think it would turn out pretty chaotic..liek the mods suggestion forum. I think it might cause a bit of..crazyness. I don't really think we should. I think if people have a suggestion, they should PM one of us, then we can discuss it backstage or something.

[tooeffingcrazy]

I do not think a suggestion forum is necessary. If they have a suggestion, they could always just bring it up to one of the mods/admins.

[*mzkandi*]

And Sammi and Mona- Now really, how is that (your little sarcastic remarks) going to help?

Exactly. And yes I think a suggestion forum would be nice. So the members voice can be heard and cB can start feeling more like a community

[ghjgfkgfk]

i voted yes

[*stephinika*]

hmm yeah i think a forum is a bit much, but a pinned topic could work.

[*mona lisa*]

And Sammi and Mona- Now really, how is that (your little sarcastic remarks) going to help?

I'll reply in here since another member quoted it. Well, now the members can be happy because they get a chance to vote and they're not being forced to accept all the decisions and not get a say; that's all. I'm happy for them.

[JlIaTMK]

Oh thank god. Finally what I wanted.

[sadolakced acid]

a pinned topic would not work, and here's why:

in a topic, you can only have one, maybe two things to discuss. If there is just a pinned thread, everything will be jumbled together, much like the moderator's performance thread which played host to a myriad of topics, leading to confusion and redundancy.

and so, a separate forum is needed; spam could be cut back by not having it contribute to post count.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

I'll reply in here since another member quoted it. Well, now the members can be happy because they get a chance to vote and they're not being forced to accept all the decisions and not get a say; that's all. I'm happy for them.

you didnt sound happy about it, you sounded very sarcastic.

[Heathasm]

i voted yes

i voted yes too, but i don't care too much. if some one has a suggestion arent they welcome to post it in the lounge or PM some one about it?
if it makes every one happy then do it, though...

[Rachel]

and so, a separate forum is needed; spam could be cut back by not having it contribute to post count.

I think that would work too. We should just try and compromise mmmkay? (By the way, that wasn't just directed at you Justin, it was to everyone.)

[Spirited Away]

a pinned topic would not work, and here's why: 

in a topic, you can only have one, maybe two things to discuss.  If there is just a pinned thread, everything will be jumbled together, much like the moderator's performance thread which played host to a myriad of topics, leading to confusion and redundancy.

and so, a separate forum is needed; spam could be cut back by not having it contribute to post count.

Agreed. A pinned topic would not work at all and the Mod performance thread is the perfect example...

As for a suggestion forum, I have no comment.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

oh and also, all the ideas would be in one spot and not scattered around. PMing isnt a good idea.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

I agree that this should be a pinned topic and that post count should be disabled. Also, irrelevant posts should be deleted. I think this is a good idea, but I don't want it to be chaotic.

apparently posts count mean wether or not you become part of CB staff though.

edit// that post just vanished, i am NOT seeing things O.o;; this isnt a double post.

[Rachel]

oh and also, all the ideas would be in one spot and not scattered around. PMing isnt a good idea.

Obviously, the whole basis of the Suggestion Forum is so that more members can have an input on others in the communitys' ideas...

[Teesa]

^no, no my fault. I didn't like what I said and didn't want it to be there, so I just deleted it..you're not seeing things

[Miss[x]Tiff]

Obviously, the whole basis of the Suggestion Forum is so that more members can have an input on others in the communitys' ideas...

Ha yeah what you said =] If its PMed it could just be shot down immediatley and no one else can be influenced by the idea and it wont get any support.

^no, no my fault. I didn't like what I said and didn't want it to be there, so I just deleted it..you're not seeing things

oh good @_@ would you like me to delete that post??

[*mona lisa*]

I thought about it some more, and I don't care. Most likely it will be, but I'm fine with it whether it is created or not.

[xquizit]

I support this idea. It will give all members an opportunity to voice their opinions and perhaps move this forum in a better direction.

[*jooleeah*]

I like this idea. Now members get to voice their opinions more often

[sadolakced acid]

also, there should be a changes discussion subforum with this forum.

[innovation]

i say yes; it's more organized. however, i think that threads should be closed if no members express interests for a certain amount of time. nobody wants the thread to be cluttered with random ideas. ALSO, members would have to be extra careful not to duplicate topics. ugh.

[sweetxsimplicity]

i think we could have a suggestion forum where there would be a form so people could PM all the mods/admins like the report form thing.

[*tweeak*]

im not strongly in support, because i dont particularly want more trouble started because theyre whining because thier suggestion was ignored, but i wouldnt mind

[jennyjenny]

I don't think we should have a forum, but just a pinned topic. I have a feeling that it's going to start arguments. "No, doing so and so is stupid! f**k you!"

[sweetxsimplicity]

I don't think we should have a forum, but just a pinned topic. I have a feeling that it's going to start arguments. "No, doing so and so is stupid! f**k you!"

yeah, we dont need a whole forum.

[sadolakced acid]

it can't be achieved without a forum.

having just a thread is worse than not having anything at all.

[*tweeak*]

only because people treat it the way they did

[Miss[x]Tiff]

I dont understand why its most of the mods saying the members are whineing and things like that. Like its a way to say "yeah now we can shut them up". Im happy crazy jew and Roxx are open to new ideas and are willing to merge their ideas wiht the members of createblog.

[Shattered_Hope]

I think having a suggestion forum is a good idea!!

[*tweeak*]

theyre not the only ones open to new ideas. however, today i am actually very sick of the whining. some people have pissed me off a lot today, and while it may have had an effect on the way im coming off today, it doesnt mean i am some cold harded bitch of a mod who is completely closed off to any prospect of any changes. i havent even been a mod that long, so i can see both sides. sure, i lean a bit to the side of the mods, but thats because people suddenly decided to start making false assumptions about us, including a certain member i have known for a long time outside cb. no, i dont think radical change can happen over the course of a day. but there is also historcal evidance that when it does, it doesnt work

[heyyfrankie]

i think it is a bad idea because almost everyone who posts in there are going to have different ideas and things could get out hand with all the different ideas. i just think we should leave it up the mods and to the GOOD suggestions in moderator performance. =/

[Miss[x]Tiff]

i think it is a bad idea because almost everyone who posts in there are going to have different ideas and things could get out hand with all the different ideas. i just think we should leave it up the mods and to the GOOD suggestions in moderator performance. =/

why should only the mods have a say when the majority of createblog is the members?

[*mona lisa*]

why should only the mods have a say when the majority of createblog is the members?

Well, you can't have the majority of cB be the popluation of the moderators.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

Well, you can't have the majority of cB be the popluation of the moderators.

But that doesn't give the moderators a right to be the only ones to have a say, i hope we resolve this soon because CB is really going down hill...

[innovation]

i think that the problem with CB extends outside of this whole issue of direct democracy, and many people seem to think that genocide of the ignorant is the only was to restore CB to what it was before it got overcrowded. however, this is not possible, not is it fair. so... what shall we do to make CB the way it was before? with the family-ness and all?

[Miss[x]Tiff]

i think that the problem with CB extends outside of this whole issue of direct democracy, and many people seem to think that genocide of the ignorant is the only was to restore CB to what it was before it got overcrowded. however, this is not possible, not is it fair. so... what shall we do to make CB the way it was before? with the family-ness and all?

I think SOME of the mods should check their atitudes when it deals with members, instead of saying "DEAL WITH IT!" they could try to be more resolving and try to help as much as they can.

[toodlepops.]

Nahh, maybe not a whole entire forum, because people are going to post a few suggestions and be done with it.
Therefore, I conclude that a pinned topic is decent.

[*mona lisa*]

But that doesn't give the moderators a right to be the only ones to have a say

Moderators are not the *only* ones to have a say. When did you see something occur (a reasonable event) where the members had absolutely no say?

[Miss[x]Tiff]

i was referring to what he said....

i think it is a bad idea because almost everyone who posts in there are going to have different ideas and things could get out hand with all the different ideas. i just think we should leave it up the mods and to the GOOD suggestions in moderator performance. =/

[*mona lisa*]

i was referring to what he said....

I know. I just said it because what you said isn't true. And you didn't answer my question.

[parallel]

I actually don't really care. But I guess it sounds good.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

I know. I just said it because what you said isn't true. And you didn't answer my question.

aaargh >.< no no i meant if that were to happen it wouldnt be right for the mods to have all the say.

[Ballpointpencil]

I like the idea of a suggestion forum, at least in part because this is only the second forum I've ever been involved in (and I've been in quite a few, modded three, and actually run one) that doesn't have one. It seems like people are afraid it would turn into a massive hate-fest for the mods or something, but in my experience it hasn't been like that. But then, I haven't been on CB long, maybe y'all are different from other communities I've been in. I don't know.
By the by, I wanted to say that I think the mods are doing a great job. It is my belief that a suggestion forum would actually benefit the mods. Some people say we should just pm a mod or admin with suggestions, but that isn't the most effective way to go. Just a thought, what if someone has a good idea but it has to be changed just a little to be implemented well, but the mods don't know how it would be changed. What if a member did know a good way, and because there was a thread on it in the suggestions forum, were able to suggest a better way where a mod might not necessarily have seen it? I don't know, just an idea.

[HelloSunshine]

I think so. It'd definetely organize things a bit more.

[sunissed14127]

I think it's a great idea. It will help you get an idea of what the people in CB want and would like to see improve in CB.

[sammi rules you]

sorry. i was a teensy bit ticked off when i typed that and was on a warring rampage.

but don't act like you people have never been sarcastic. seriously.

[xquizit]

I think they should be excused for their sarcastic remarks. Everyone's been a little on edge, especially in light of all the accusations being thrown at us.

[*basick*]

yeah, lots of other forums i go to have it... why not?

[sharerol]

I honestly don't think we need a suggestions forum. I'd just go with Rachel's pinned topic idea, but ehh...that's my opinion. =\

[xTINAA]

^no, no my fault. I didn't like what I said and didn't want it to be there, so I just deleted it..you're not seeing things

You should have just editted it or something because honestly that just seems like you're abusing your powers. Why? Because regular members can't delete posts and now that you did, it looks like Miss[x]Tiff double posted when she didn't.

Just so this isn't spam, I think we should have a suggestions topic where people can post their suggestions however not a whole forum dedicated to it. That would just be pointless because so much spam would build up there. Unless of course every post in there doesn't count towards post count, like Forum Games and Xanga Skins. That might work then.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

You should have just editted it or something because honestly that just seems like you're abusing your powers. Why? Because regular members can't delete posts and now that you did, it looks like Miss[x]Tiff double posted when she didn't.

Just so this isn't spam, I think we should have a suggestions topic where people can post their suggestions however not a whole forum dedicated to it. That would just be pointless because so much spam would build up there. Unless of course every post in there doesn't count towards post count, like Forum Games and Xanga Skins. That might work then.

uhm actually thats another thing..why cant we delete our own post?

[EmmalieV]

^I dont think we need to , we can just edit it.

[xTINAA]

uhm actually thats another thing..why cant we delete our own post?

This has been discussed before. I'm pretty sure there was a whole topic devoted to it. Go search for it. But basically it would just cause problems. There is no need to when we can edit our posts. See how when she deleted it, it caused problems? Left a break in the conversation and made it seem like you had double posted.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

This has been discussed before. I'm pretty sure there was a whole topic devoted to it. Go search for it. But basically it would just cause problems. There is no need to when we can edit our posts. See how when she deleted it, it caused problems? Left a break in the conversation and made it seem like you had double posted.

Ah, okay i see, yeah..everyone deleting posts would make everyone look like idiots... thank you =]

[Spirited Away]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...hl=delete+posts

about the deleting post query.

[*suddenly she*]

it's an okay idea (the forum) as long as it doesn't increase the amount of work for mods by an intolerable amount. i'm mostly just concerned about how much time, effort, and sanity this will take for the mods, that's all.

the forum will be very organized, but it may take more work, and the pinned topic is easier to manage, while it will build up a lot of.. stuff.

[JC4P]

i voted yeah...sure why not?

[EXPLO5ION]

I support the idea of a suggestions forum. If we have a pinned thread, it could get rather disorganized. People would just bring in different suggestions, and everything would get mixed up. But if we do have a forum, to prevent spam, we should have it so that if you post there, it wouldn't add to your post count.

[gelionie]

Yes, I think we definitely should.
You can refer to one of my older topics on a suggestion forum.

I mean, we should have a ORGANIZED suggestion forum.
Everyone who makes suggestions must elaborate and follow certain rules.

[dani41790]

I guess it's a good idea since it gives the members a chance to tell all the mods their opinions and suggestions. I wouldn't mind a forum like that.

[gladz612]

yes i think we shud have one. i'd def support it!

[misoshiru]

a whole forum is pretty useless. maybe you should have a thread in each forum asking for suggestions.

[racoons > you]

sure, i lean a bit to the side of the mods, but thats because people suddenly decided to start making false assumptions about us, including a certain member i have known for a long time outside cb.

wonder who that could have been? very subtle. lol

anyway, you know how i feel about that, so whatever

the only way we can see whether or not a suggestions forum would work is to try it.
why not run it for two weeks, as someone (i fogot who, dammit, i hoped i would rememeber, bu tobviously not. kudos, anyway) it can always be closed after the trial period if it is CLEARLY a waste of time and effort. it would, of coure, necessitate a seperate set of guidelines, as to what qualifies as a reasonable type suggection or not (no 'fire him or her' and such like)

[Heathasm]

wonder who that could have been? very subtle. lol

anyway, you know how i feel about that, so whatever

the only way we can see whether or not a suggestions forum would work is to try it.
why not run it for two weeks, as someone (i fogot who, dammit, i hoped i would rememeber, bu tobviously not. kudos, anyway) it can always be closed after the trial period if it is CLEARLY a waste of time and effort. it would, of coure, necessitate a seperate set of guidelines, as to what qualifies as a reasonable type suggection or not (no 'fire him or her' and such like)

well from he poll it looks like a support forum will be put in
the only way you can see if any thing will actually work is to try it out, which is a risk all on its own as well,other than that option there is also experience and logic to consult

[racoons > you]

well, the experienced member who posted having seen suggestion forums in action on other sites seem to think that it would be a good idea, and logic and evidence shows that the idea is superior to that of a single pinned thread

as for risk asociated with change... well, there is an equal risk of stagnation in the absence of change. anyway, it seems clear that support is in favour of the forum, as you say, so all that remains to be seen is whether or not it does work as hoped

[*lolita kitty*]

im not fighting for it or anything, but i think its a good idea. i voted yes.
rofl, i justrealized were suggesting a suggestin forum. xD

[Rachel]

but don't act like you people have never been sarcastic. seriously.

I am not. I know that I am a sarcastic bitch, but I also know when sarcasm should not really be used. I was just stating that people are pissed off enough already and I didn't really think that the sarcasm was needed.

I think they should be excused for their sarcastic remarks. Everyone's been a little on edge, especially in light of all the accusations being thrown at us.

I wasn't upset with them, I was just pointing out that it wasn't really going to help the situation.

[KissMe2408]

I think a suggestion forum would be lovely. People can make suggestions or constructive criticism. It can't hurt to try it out, eh?

But if it gets out of hand, and it turns into an "argument" forum, instead of a "suggestion" forum, then we could do without it. There are plenty of arguments to choose from around here. lol. But i think it's a good idea, we should give it a shot.

Although, even if there isn't a suggestion forum, I don't think anyone should be complaining. We get so much freedom and ability to change this site as it is. Which is a blessing and a good thing =) So people alreayd freely express themselves, the thing is, i guess with a suggestion forum, things will be more organized and (hopefully) there will be less arguments.

[sadolakced acid]

people are going to debate about suggestions, no matter where they're raised.

[shortiiex]

That is a great idea....it'll would be a little hard read everyone's idea though

[KissMe2408]

people are going to debate about suggestions, no matter where they're raised

^of course, but im talking about the childish arguments and unnecessary member bashing

[rAwritsgWeg]

yes we should because there are people like me that need to sugeest things

this means that i think there is nowhere like this and if there was then that'd be pretty cool

[pAtRiCk_sTar]

Well...I don't really mind anything, like if we get it okay, if we don't okay. I'm kind of leaning on the no side however. It seems..a bit unnecessary...but who knows. Maybe several cbers are burning with suggestions hehehe.

[Ington]

Yes, we should.

[Rachel]

Well...I don't really mind anything, like if we get it okay, if we don't okay. I'm kind of leaning on the no side however. It seems..a bit unnecessary...but who knows. Maybe several cbers are burning with suggestions hehehe.

.....Obviously. Why else do you think Jusun (that is micron) would ask if we should have a suggestion forum in the first place?

[micron]

[*mona lisa*]

Thank you Jusun.

[FoOd]

Oh yes, so that everybody would contribute their good(or bad) ideas.

I like it.

[*not_your_average*]

Whoa, this is an OLD topic. Mods, please close this.