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post Apr 23 2005, 09:54 PM
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write and post editorials (proper english please) about your views on a significant issue. it doesn't have to be CB-related-- just something people would be interested in. topics could range from createblog drama to political issues to school cliques to music artists. just please, please, make it intelligent.. please? -begs-

i've been wanting a thread like this for a while, so i thought that i might as well make one. i'm rather tired, so i'll post something tomorrow.. once i think of a significant topic. :D
 
 
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post Apr 24 2005, 11:26 AM
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I'll post here soon enough, but I think this should be pinned. Wow, I'm amazed no one thought of this before. Its an awesome idea, Mindy. happy.gif
 
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post Apr 24 2005, 11:40 AM
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I <3 MINDY. and also NIMDY

ok... here is my first piece.

THE MODDING PROCESS

The process by which members become mods has not been made entirely clear to those applying, nor those other people who are interested in getting across their opinion son who should be given the title of 'staff'

In the brief period since the latest batch of applications were requested, i have heard several versions as to how this process works. Firstly, Jusun picks the mods entirely on his own (This isn't reasonable, as due to actuall yhaving a life outside of CB, he doesnt get to know all of the non-staff mmbers as well as might be desired), secondly, he has the admins help him (HOw? there's only one real admin left), and thirdly the other Mods vote on who should join the staff (which i know isnt true).

Why has this process not been clarified, despite numerous requests from myself and other members to hear just what goes on?

Personally, i believe that the modding of members shoul dbe down to those who their staff-ship affects most. THE CREATEBLOG MEMBERS. It is my proposition that all members with over 1,000 posts be given the right to vote on people who they feel would be best suited to running this site. After all, at the end of the day, isn't it the members themselves who benefit from superior modding, or suffer from the lack of it?

At the very least, the mods themselves should SURELY be given a say in what goes on. They have been selected as the most responisble members of the site, and as such deserve to be given a say in such an important part of the site's history and running.

It is too late now for the latest batch of application to be treated in this democratic manner, but i urge one of the members of staff to bring to light what goes on with the applications (if they themselves even KNOW), and to put forth the idea presented here.

Thank You

-James
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 03:34 PM
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omg...^^^that was soo good.
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 12:42 AM
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ok...truly.. Reply to the Modding Process


You guys that want the population vote. A Population Vote doesn't necessarily mean that they are qualified to become a mod. If Cb members did indeed vote for what members should be mods, then it WOULD turn into a popularity contest, and it would be more about friends then skill. Ironic, that's what everyone is complaining about now. That friends were choosen over skill, but since when do we members really know whats going on backstage. Only the mods can know. And they didn't become mods unless the staff had good reasons to choose them.

Yes, Jusun does have a busy life out of cb. But that doesn't compromise his judgement on who is qualified to mod a forum. And if you say that he doesn't really "know" you well.... that's why he relied on the staff members opinions on who gets modded, they get to know us. To question their judgement is unreasonable. As Jusun said,

QUOTE(micron @ Apr 26 2005, 7:47 PM)
and regardless of what all of you may feel, i stand by the new staff members and have absolute faith that they will do a good job. given the opportunity, most people do. and in an event they don't, its our job to shoot ourselves in the foot, which i can promise you we will, and not yours.
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Jusun and most of the staff members have been around this site much longer. For goodness sake, he created it. He knows what he's doing. I'm pretty disappointed on how selfish people are acting on here. We get to say our opinions and post them in a forum, and if you think that the people choosen makes life unfair, then tough. You're going to have to deal with this sorta thing all your life, and you will always have your opinion. Be mature about it.

We know the basis of the modding process. And we know what kind of people they are looking for to mod. They list the qualifications when they post the topic. And we know that the mods make a list and the compare lists and they spend numerous hours deciding which person would fit well for the job. They go through all the applications and have to pick through all the people on this site. That is all we need to know. Nothing more. We don't need to know the whole process in detail.

If a member is picked to be a mod that you didn't approve of, then tough. It's only your opinion, and you haven't seen that mod in action yet. That mod is going to have to prove themselves first, before you can really start to complain.

Basically, stop complaining. Let the mods do their jobs. Wait until they hire again, but after this whole ordeal that sprung up, i don't think they would be hiring anytime soon.




That's it. No more Talk about this whole mod thing.
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Apr 24 2005, 9:40 AM)
THE MODDING PROCESS

The process by which members become mods has not been made entirely clear to those applying, nor those other people who are interested in getting across their opinion son who should be given the title of 'staff'

In the brief period since the latest batch of applications were requested, i have heard several versions as to how this process works. Firstly, Jusun picks the mods entirely on his own (This isn't reasonable, as due to actuall yhaving a life outside of CB, he doesnt get to know all of the non-staff mmbers as well as might be desired), secondly, he has the admins help him (HOw? there's only one real admin left), and thirdly the other Mods vote on who should join the staff (which i know isnt true).
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That.. that.. was completely wrong.

Population vote = Popularity contest.
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 07:49 PM
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this editorial thing doesn't seem to be working out. james is the only one who has submitted an article, and i'm too lazy and uncreative to write one. T__T

james, we're waiting for your next piece.
 
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post Apr 29 2005, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Apr 24 2005, 12:40 PM)
THE MODDING PROCESS

The process by which members become mods has not been made entirely clear to those applying, nor those other people who are interested in getting across their opinion son who should be given the title of 'staff'

In the brief period since the latest batch of applications were requested, i have heard several versions as to how this process works. Firstly, Jusun picks the mods entirely on his own (This isn't reasonable, as due to actuall yhaving a life outside of CB, he doesnt get to know all of the non-staff mmbers as well as might be desired), secondly, he has the admins help him (HOw? there's only one real admin left), and thirdly the other Mods vote on who should join the staff (which i know isnt true).

Why has this process not been clarified, despite numerous requests from myself and other members to hear just what goes on?

Personally, i believe that the modding of members shoul dbe down to those who their staff-ship affects most. THE CREATEBLOG MEMBERS. It is my proposition that all members with over 1,000 posts be given the right to vote on people who they feel would be best suited to running this site. After all, at the end of the day, isn't it the members themselves who benefit from superior modding, or suffer from the lack of it?
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First of all, that's wrong.
Second, the reason why it would turn into a popularity contest is because no one will know every single person who is applying. Do you realize that some people like you will give a sort of biased vote because you hang out in the Community Section. What about all those that dont? There's also Xanga, Blogger, and Staff, which not many cB members get a chance to know (as compared to People Staff because the C.C. is much bigger and most people go there). So who would you vote for? Some who you know and trust and posts a lot or someone who may be more qualified but you don't know because you haven't seen them post?

And who has told you "the several versions as to how this process works"?
 
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post Apr 29 2005, 04:20 PM
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none of your busines, frankly, and also

i do only think that the voting should be applied to people staff, as tehy are the moderators for whom interaction with members is most importan

and can i just say (you'd think id stop wasting time and just say it, as no one can actually stop me, but habit is habit) this thread wsnt really intended for discussion... it was more just a place for people to post how they felt about issuse on the site. pm the author or raise it in the new feedback forum.

or, write something yourself, in an editorial form, such as kissme, although its probably best not to reply directly to another piece, rather just reference it throughout your own.

k, thanks
 
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post Apr 30 2005, 12:39 AM
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the intonation of the spirit

yea, you see that title? it has nothing to do with anything.

The CB revolution was not a true revolution, not even partially a revolution. It was only named that way, in the way that Chevy names themselves "An American Revolution" However, it's interesting to see the power of suggestion. Some posters thought it was stupid, expecially in the begining. However, it was soon sides were taken, and they became polorized. Within a few pages, more than three members had spoke of quitting. To understand this, we must understand CB's society.


ok. so, this editorial is about CB's society. The question is, what kind of society is CB? This is to anwer the question of why CB did what it did when the idea of a revolution was implied. This editorial is also about the interesting turn of events that started this interesting footnote.


CB is like a web of friends. Certain CBers connect with a lot of CBs, and are major hubs. everyone is tied together. CB is a large, artificial, circle of friends, with a few subloops.

the most obvious of subloops is the Moderator one. Moderators are a team, and they have duties, unlike the members of CB. Their jobs require them to sometimes make members unhappy- thus providing the potential for conflict.

The potential of conflict is quite high whenever new moderators are chosen, because it means there were people turned down for the job, and resentment that would fade.

which leads us to the next group, the regulars, etc. These are the 'inner circle' It's a core of people that post often. In CB, they hold values on typing correctly, and grammer and such. Each forum has it's own group of regulars- but they all overlap some. however, the most important group of regulars is the Lounge regulars. moderators may also be part of the regulars, but will owe thier alliegance to the moderator team.

Then there are the inbetweeners, those not quite regulars yet, but still posting. They're not often influential in CB. they post, people read the posts, but they are not known well enough for people to see the person behind the post.

and finally, there are the exiled. These are those the regulars have deemed worthless to CB. to be exiled in CB is harsh- posts are met with little enthusiasm.

Now, this is a general overview of CB society. a quick and dirty one, made to be as short as possible. therfore, it doesn't work everytime.

Now, the editorial

The idea of turmoil was already afloat. It was launched when the hiring of new mods was announced- and lit up a bit by a user's calling of attention to certain quotes. whistling.gif

now, an interesting quote was "we need the plump for the impending revolution". Attention drawn to this, coupled with the words "i support the CB revolution " is a member's signature, provided a subtle hint, and an idea. whistling.gif

Furthermore, suggestions of turmoil among the first estate (mods) implanted the idea of something changing.

When the new mods were announced, there was a slight uproar about it. a few members of the lounge regulars disagreed with the appointments. the argument calmed, yet the figurative gasoline had been poured, waiting for a match.

this match came when a member posted a thread calling for changes, titled the CB revolution. whistling.gif

It didn't matter what the post was about, as long as it looked serious and suggested some sort of change in it. it was the title that mattered.

early on, it looked as if the match fizzled, however, in a page or two, it caught.

It caught simply because of the word Revolution. Members, oblivious to the fact that web hosting cannot be wrested away from someone, thought the contents of the long post must be advocating a revolution, or an overthrow.

The word revolution sparked a change in the first estate. they drew out of the second estate, as their job entailed. When a few second estate members found the first estate had withdrawn, they grouped as the first estate had, and as the match had come from the second estate, they fueled it.

the simple word 'revolution' caused all arguments with the first estate to surface. there were topics not mentioned in the first post, the match post, that were raging furiously.

This of course, burned down as all fires do.

it has become, an "interesting footnote in CB's history"


it's amazing what the power of a suggestion, one word, and a well timed post will do. whistling.gif

((anyways, i have come to the conclusion that CB's society most closely resembles that of england before the magna carta was signed.))

~ just my views. i do not claim to know anything i have just said. tongue.gif

wow that was long and strange. i wonder if anyone read it... (don't... you'll get a headache. i got one writing it..)
 
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post May 2 2005, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Apr 24 2005, 10:40 AM)
I <3 MINDY. and also NIMDY

ok... here is my first piece.

THE MODDING PROCESS

The process by which members become mods has not been made entirely clear to those applying, nor those other people who are interested in getting across their opinion son who should be given the title of 'staff'

In the brief period since the latest batch of applications were requested, i have heard several versions as to how this process works. Firstly, Jusun picks the mods entirely on his own (This isn't reasonable, as due to actuall yhaving a life outside of CB, he doesnt get to know all of the non-staff mmbers as well as might be desired), secondly, he has the admins help him (HOw? there's only one real admin left), and thirdly the other Mods vote on who should join the staff (which i know isnt true).

Why has this process not been clarified, despite numerous requests from myself and other members to hear just what goes on?

Personally, i believe that the modding of members shoul dbe down to those who their staff-ship affects most. THE CREATEBLOG MEMBERS. It is my proposition that all members with over 1,000 posts be given the right to vote on people who they feel would be best suited to running this site. After all, at the end of the day, isn't it the members themselves who benefit from superior modding, or suffer from the lack of it?

At the very least, the mods themselves should SURELY be given a say in what goes on. They have been selected as the most responisble members of the site, and as such deserve to be given a say in such an important part of the site's history and running.

It is too late now for the latest batch of application to be treated in this democratic manner, but i urge one of the members of staff to bring to light what goes on with the applications (if they themselves even KNOW), and to put forth the idea presented here.

Thank You

-James
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please stop talking.

MY TOPIC
where do you think dinosaurs came from because the bible says nothing about god making them. [/christian view point]
 
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post May 2 2005, 01:51 PM
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^ what does that have to do with an editorial?

please stop talking

*smiles sweetly*
 
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post May 2 2005, 02:10 PM
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^ it was a joke. i thought i would attempt to get y'all off of the topic of mods.
 
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post May 2 2005, 02:27 PM
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I would hate to close this thread down because of petty differences.

Since I have hope that this thread could be as educational as it would be a diffusion of ideas, there will be rules to follow.

Your piece should:
1) explain a current problem that effects many readers
2) attempt to persuade with factual evidence
3) not offer one-sided opinions to the extreme
4) give alternative solutions when refuting a current system

Remember to make your writing as clear and as concise as possible. Editorials are meant to bring important issues out in the open and not a way to solve petty arguments.

There are a few types of editorials. If you're going to write an opinion piece, state so to avoid confusion between facts and opinions. You may laugh, but this happens frequently as people are so uninformed. If you plan to refute an opposition, do so professionally and logically.

Do not create a discussion in this thread. Any replies towards an editorial should be in editorial format.

Simple, right? Follow the rules or else you'll ruin this for everyone else. Thank you.

Mods, feel free to add rules/guidelines.
 
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post May 2 2005, 03:15 PM
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*claps for fae*
 
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post May 13 2005, 06:29 PM
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depinned on account of deactivity and there being wayyy too many topics pinned already
 

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