iPods, putting the record industry away? |
iPods, putting the record industry away? |
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I love iPods. I have a pink mini one who else has one? if you go to NYC, it seems like every 3 people have one. But i think their ads are the COOLEST!
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My name is Jason, not imafreakinazn D: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,008 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,432 ![]() |
i have a blue mini one.
and why would the put the record industry away? the ipod is to hold the songs from the record. they make the record, and then apple/itunes gets permission to put it onto itunes for people to purchase.........right? ![]() |
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![]() A.K.A. Simplicityxx ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,878 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 56,813 ![]() |
I have a green mini. Wish I got the main ipod, not mini.
I think she means that instead of buying the artist's records, people go to iTunes and just download the songs. |
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My name is Jason, not imafreakinazn D: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,008 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,432 ![]() |
ooooooo.
well wouldn't itunes in turn give part of the profit to the artist/record label? |
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^ isn't that kind of a duh? why would the record industry let people download songs if they weren't making money off it
![]() i got a 20gb ipod when they first came out, so i've had mine for 2+ years. there are numerous topics in technology about this (unless it's specifically supposed to be about ipods and their effect on the recording industry)... |
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![]() cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 ![]() |
No isnt it funny . like ipods enforce not to dl songs illegally but im sure they know that people only buy them because they dl songs for free. like its contradicting themselves.
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![]() I watch you while you sleep. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,068 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,685 ![]() |
I've recently bought an iPod Photo (60 gb). I have a hard time uploading songs to it.. x_x
xo, Pauline |
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![]() i <3 peter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 744 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 125,986 ![]() |
pssh! i wish i could afford one! i want a pink mini ipod :(
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Please be more specific on exactly what this topic is about. Like William said (I believe it was him...) there are multiple topics on iPods already so if this is like the rest of them, it needs to be closed. So please specify what we're supposed to be discussing. Anyways, I love iPods. I have a 40GB and I adore it. And personally I don't think it's iPods that necessarily put the record industry away. It's more of just illegally downloading programs like Kazaa and Limewire and such that are. In fact, if anything, iPods encourage record sales because they encourage the consumer to purchase their music on iTunes.
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what I mean is, People wont be buying many CDs anymore. not that artists would acctually stop recording.
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Apr 21 2005, 10:34 PM) Please be more specific on exactly what this topic is about. Like William said (I believe it was him...) there are multiple topics on iPods already so if this is like the rest of them, it needs to be closed. So please specify what we're supposed to be discussing. Anyways, I love iPods. I have a 40GB and I adore it. And personally I don't think it's iPods that necessarily put the record industry away. It's more of just illegally downloading programs like Kazaa and Limewire and such that are. In fact, if anything, iPods encourage record sales because they encourage the consumer to purchase their music on iTunes. It's not that hard to understand what the thread was actually about. Granted her actual THREAD didn't really related to her subject.. " iPods, putting the record industry away?" Anyway, for the person that said that itunes is still giving the bands profit. Artists make barely any money from their record sales. I've read alot about it; Record companies keep so much of their artist's profits it's rediculous. I don't have an ipod, but I'm not going to be an idiot and use itunes to pay for music when there's obviously others way to go about getting the mp3s. |
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If a person legally purchases all of their music from a pay service like iTunes, then the artists/recodrd companies make money. It is actually chepaer to buy most albums off of iTunes because they don't cost as much as they do in a record store. However, if you're like me and u can't really afford to purchase music off iTunes all of the time, you probably download a lot. And if you have iTunes and are even the slightest bit crafty, you've probably figured out how to upload illegal mp3s to iTunes. There's also a nifty import feature on iTunes where you can upload your own cds, which I use quite often to back up my music collection as I add to it....
anyway, I don't think iTunes is going to ruin the music industry. If anything, it's probably helping it to stay alive and thriving. |
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i have a blue ipod mini, i like the ipod mini better than the normal once cause they're not as big and bulky
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ipods are increasing music sales, through itunes.
bleh. i hate ipods. |
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![]() Go on, hug me, I dare you... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 299 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 116,809 ![]() |
Yeah, I have a theory that in 2 years time, I will be able to buy an ipod for under 20 quid as there are so many out there that every other person has got one, even though the rio karma is so much better...
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![]() I'm just a little bit crazy... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,119 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,760 ![]() |
example: the iPod Shuffle is only $99 bucks because you would have to purchase iTunes, and that's how they make their profit.
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Apr 22 2005, 2:10 PM) ohmigawh, you're totally right! i mean, i only bought mine a few months after they came out, so i've had it for about two and a half years, and it still works perfectly. they totally break within a few months of buying them!!! anyways, i don't think that itunes or filesharing is what's making record sales go down- it's declining quality in mainstream music. |
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QUOTE(william @ Apr 22 2005, 6:30 PM) ohmigawh, you're totally right! i mean, i only bought mine a few months after they came out, so i've had it for about two and a half years, and it still works perfectly. they totally break within a few months of buying them!!! anyways, i don't think that itunes or filesharing is what's making record sales go down- it's declining quality in mainstream music. That was gay, you are gay. You're sarcasm is ineffective here. Anyway, i personally think that itunes and napster isnt such a good way to get music. So you pay for it and you download it, what happenens if its get erased or your computer gets a problem? I personally rather get the cd and rip the files to my computer. But it's still a very effective way to make money for the music industry. |
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![]() What a hypocrite. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,754 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 128,150 ![]() |
I love their ads, they're so phunky.
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all of apples ads are defiantly awesome.
i have a 20 gb g.4 ipod. i thought to myself, 1,000 songs isn't enough for me, so the next highest is the 20 gb. so i bought that. then here comes the ipod mini g.2. with 6 gb, which is like, perfect. i wish i had one green one. |
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i love the ads- it defines an ipod user.
defined by the ipod, an individual no longer. at least, the ones who get ipods because they're cool, and have like 15 songs on a 20GB ipod. at first i thought- ipod, hmm sounds good. then i thought, hmm. i don't have that much music. then i thought, wait... i DO have music, just no 20gbs, so i thought mini, then i looked at the price and lo and behold, for 30 bucks cheaper (at 215) was the color iriver (20gbs). and it was so. (actually not... but sounds good, right? i actualy researched and found that the h320 was the best one out there for me. ) |
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![]() E=Fb Musicians Theory of Relativity ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 711 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 109,045 ![]() |
I have a blue mini iPod, and I don't think it is killing the record companies. I think the ease of illegal d/ling is.
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illegal downloading isn't killing record companies.
it allows listeners to sample songs before they buy. and sample them whereever, whenever, at full lenght. finding an entire CD in high quality MP3 or OGG is hard. i don't see why it's killing anything. |
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^ agreed. ever since i started downloading i've been able to find more bands, and have started buying a lot more cds.
QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Apr 22 2005, 5:04 PM) i actually thought it was damn effective. did you miss my point? they don't break within months, or even years for that matter. that was an extremely ignorant statement for you to make. you didn't include any facts, sources, or personal experiences to back it up. and resorting to calling me gay..? i find that pathetic. edit one: oh, and for rachel, it's *your. using the contraction you're means "you are" of course, and "you are sarcasm" makes no sense at all. edit two: QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Apr 22 2005, 5:04 PM) So you pay for it and you download it, what happenens if its get erased or your computer gets a problem? I personally rather get the cd and rip the files to my computer. i'm not trying to debate with you or piss you off with this edit, but wouldn't most people also put the music on their mp3 player? i don't think it's very likely for your computer AND your mp3 player to crash at the same time, but i do see your point. i don't buy from the itunes store because cds only cost a few dollars more, and you get something tangible without restrictions. liner notes are kind of nice too. |
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I have that red and black iPod. I like it.
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QUOTE(william @ Apr 23 2005, 1:34 PM) ^ agreed. ever since i started downloading i've been able to find more bands, and have started buying a lot more cds. i actually thought it was damn effective. did you miss my point? they don't break within months, or even years for that matter. that was an extremely ignorant statement for you to make. you didn't include any facts, sources, or personal experiences to back it up. and resorting to calling me gay..? i find that pathetic. edit one: oh, and for rachel, it's *your. using the contraction you're means "you are" of course, and "you are sarcasm" makes no sense at all. edit two: i'm not trying to debate with you or piss you off with this edit, but wouldn't most people also put the music on their mp3 player? i don't think it's very likely for your computer AND your mp3 player to crash at the same time, but i do see your point. i don't buy from the itunes store because cds only cost a few dollars more, and you get something tangible without restrictions. liner notes are kind of nice too. Jesus Christ, you are dumb. iPods do break in a short time. They are not going to report that in any magzine or news resource. They would get sued by Apple. The battery life is terrible. It has a pretty crappy battery that last for like a year. (exageration) Replacing that battery costs a lot too. It's not like 10 dollars either. It's 100 dollars. And their tech team isnt too bright either. I know people who have returned their ipods to the tech team, to get it fixed. They fixed the problem, bit when they got it back. A different thing broke. This was up untill apple decided just to replace the ipod. The iPods to break easier than most mp3 players. They are just too damn sensitive. THe mini's however do last longer. Because they have like an extra casing, but that still doesn't mean that they are indestructable. The White ones are alot easier to break. And Apple as big as of a company they are, they just can't make Mp3s. The ipod photo was a good idea, but jesus christ whos going to use up 30 or 60 gigs. The shuffle was a bad idea too. Nobody really need all 20, 30, 40 , 60 gigs. Hell they dont even need 4,6 gigs. Most people dont even have that much music. On the white ones they dont even need 10. There are plenty more good mp3's and mp4 players out there. The iPod is just a bad choice. There are PLENTY more of players out there, and alot of them better then the iPods. |
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?
how did you decide no one needs 60GBs? i want to upgrade my drive to 60GBs if i can. i have 20 right now. i've got 9 GBs in it. of course, it's because i can put DVDs on my iriver... and watch it on a color screen... but still. all that space is useful. most people jsut don't need ipods. |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 23 2005, 5:35 PM) ? how did you decide no one needs 60GBs? i want to upgrade my drive to 60GBs if i can. i have 20 right now. i've got 9 GBs in it. of course, it's because i can put DVDs on my iriver... and watch it on a color screen... but still. all that space is useful. most people jsut don't need ipods. Lucky, i think i know which ones you have too. Because thats the one i want. The iRiver PMP-120, cause you have 20 gigs. Well inyour case it's different. My point up there was to people with mp3 players. The only thing going into that mp3 player would be songs, pictures and text files. I have a question though, i read that it has the Divx codec, but i wanna make sure this works. Does it play movies? like dvd movies you download, without changing the firmware or anything? |
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actually, i don't have a PMP, although those do better with playing videos, you still sometimes have to convert them. There are programs that will convert them for you, tho.
i have the H320. It can play Video by using Korean firmware. sweet, right? yup. cost less than an ipod mini (it was on clearance to make room for a new iriver player. still sold at other stores tho) |
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![]() Want fries with that? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 692 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 50,652 ![]() |
I have a pink mini ipod. I don't use it as much anymore though..
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 24 2005, 6:43 PM) actually, i don't have a PMP, although those do better with playing videos, you still sometimes have to convert them. There are programs that will convert them for you, tho. i have the H320. It can play Video by using Korean firmware. sweet, right? yup. cost less than an ipod mini (it was on clearance to make room for a new iriver player. still sold at other stores tho) H320? Thats the more bigger version of the brand new h10 right? Wow, so that can play videos?! using Firmware?! So if i got a h10, (which I want too) And install certin firmware, it will Play the files?! |
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no, the h10 doesn't have video capabilities.
korean firmware of the h300 series can play converted videos, but if you hvae a US firmware it voids your warrenty. the h300 was phased out by best buy, and is as a result harder to find. it's 300 dollars now. check staples, radio shack, and online. if you want more information, go to www.misticriver.net |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Apr 26 2005, 4:15 PM) no, the h10 doesn't have video capabilities. korean firmware of the h300 series can play converted videos, but if you hvae a US firmware it voids your warrenty. the h300 was phased out by best buy, and is as a result harder to find. it's 300 dollars now. check staples, radio shack, and online. if you want more information, go to www.misticriver.net Ohh i see i see. |
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for sure, ipods are good for the music company. Alot of people adhere to the "sample" code and actually buy the full quality song on CD.
As for my opinion on iPods, they're damn cool. However, the Gmini 400 is my pick for the moment ![]() |
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Apr 23 2005, 2:25 PM) Jesus Christ, you are dumb. iPods do break in a short time. They are not going to report that in any magzine or news resource. They would get sued by Apple. The battery life is terrible. It has a pretty crappy battery that last for like a year. (exageration) Replacing that battery costs a lot too. It's not like 10 dollars either. It's 100 dollars. And their tech team isnt too bright either. I know people who have returned their ipods to the tech team, to get it fixed. They fixed the problem, bit when they got it back. A different thing broke. This was up untill apple decided just to replace the ipod. The iPods to break easier than most mp3 players. They are just too damn sensitive. THe mini's however do last longer. Because they have like an extra casing, but that still doesn't mean that they are indestructable. The White ones are alot easier to break. And Apple as big as of a company they are, they just can't make Mp3s. The ipod photo was a good idea, but jesus christ whos going to use up 30 or 60 gigs. The shuffle was a bad idea too. Nobody really need all 20, 30, 40 , 60 gigs. Hell they dont even need 4,6 gigs. Most people dont even have that much music. On the white ones they dont even need 10. There are plenty more good mp3's and mp4 players out there. The iPod is just a bad choice. There are PLENTY more of players out there, and alot of them better then the iPods. i'm actually far from it. thank you for giving some facts/experiences this time. my first post was based on the fact that i've had a first generation ipod since they came out (so it's about two and a half years old) and i've never had ANY problems with it breaking, the battery dying, or anything (it still works perfectly to this day). neither have any of my friends who have bought an ipod. i do agree with you that their tech support may not be the greatest (from what i've read) and that some of their batteries don't last very long, but given that i use mine a lot and it's so old and such.. i figured people with those problems are in the minority (maybe i'm just lucky). i might be wrong, but everyone else i've talked to has agreed. maybe some statistics would come in handy here... i'll look for them and edit this post later if i find any. i also agree there are better mp3 players (i'm trying to switch to my dad's iriver but he won't let me), but i do think 20+gb hard drives are perfectly acceptable (i think i have about 10gb of music right now, and i've been buying a new cd or two every week so i bet i'll reach 20gb within a few years, and my dad's collection is already well over that). |
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I have the one where u store pictures and liek god believe about 24 hours of music.. crazy but i spend alot of time in th airport or on a train/subway.. and I hate to ugh look at people... so its often covient of me to have around.... but i still collect vynal too so its not oddly but surely to have something that small handy around!
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i have an ipod photo and i'm loving it so much! tehehehe!
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Apr 23 2005, 5:25 PM) Jesus Christ, you are dumb. iPods do break in a short time. They are not going to report that in any magzine or news resource. They would get sued by Apple. The battery life is terrible. It has a pretty crappy battery that last for like a year. (exageration) Replacing that battery costs a lot too. It's not like 10 dollars either. It's 100 dollars. And their tech team isnt too bright either. I know people who have returned their ipods to the tech team, to get it fixed. They fixed the problem, bit when they got it back. A different thing broke. This was up untill apple decided just to replace the ipod. The iPods to break easier than most mp3 players. They are just too damn sensitive. THe mini's however do last longer. Because they have like an extra casing, but that still doesn't mean that they are indestructable. The White ones are alot easier to break. And Apple as big as of a company they are, they just can't make Mp3s. The ipod photo was a good idea, but jesus christ whos going to use up 30 or 60 gigs. The shuffle was a bad idea too. Nobody really need all 20, 30, 40 , 60 gigs. Hell they dont even need 4,6 gigs. Most people dont even have that much music. On the white ones they dont even need 10. There are plenty more good mp3's and mp4 players out there. The iPod is just a bad choice. There are PLENTY more of players out there, and alot of them better then the iPods. um.. do you have an ipod? i see your facts, and hte fact that your freinds ipods got messed up... but not everyone's ipod f**k up liek theirs. there is something called a WARRANTY. its hte paper that comes in hte box, that you can set up so if your battery does f**k up, you send it back and they replace it. so what, its a 100 dollars, but if its in an envestment that you see yourself keeping for a certain amount of years, what does it matter? cars break down, get into accidents, etc. but you dont see people saying "hey dont buy a car cause it will break down or get into an accident... get a plane instead!!"... i can drop an iriver today and it will probably break just as fast as an ipod. hell ive dropped my ipod tons of times.. and it hasnt broken yet. oh, and who are u to say someone doesnt need 60 gigs? go to Niketalk, there are people with over 100 gigs of music... |
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no, you can't drop an iriver and have it break as easily as an ipod.
irivers are larger, and thicker, because there is a 2 mm rubber padding around their hard-drive, which is what would break. in addition, the player shell is three layers, plastic, then another plastic, then metal. ipods have sacraficed hard-drive durability for slimness. please don't make claims that aren't true. |
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![]() t3h koolest guy in cB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,194 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 513 ![]() |
give me an iriver, and ill show u how easy i can break it without trying...
QUOTE please don't make claims that aren't true. please..dont get urself into sumfin u cant get out of.. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
ok, i'll stop being nice:
you've proven yourself quite stupid by making assumptions about other players. shut up. no one wants false information spread about things. i doubt you've ever had an iriver HD player, and maybe never held one. regardless, you have no right to say things you do not know. anyways; it's been tried: stress test. thrown down a mountain bike trail, still playing music at the bottom. try that with an ipod. |
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![]() t3h koolest guy in cB ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,194 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 513 ![]() |
if throw an iriver and an ipod at hte wall.. i bet you both will be broken...
they arent industructable... and show me this stress test.. and i might have a change of heart... but until then.. an iriver can be broken just as easy as an ipod. being nice or not.. i dun care. heat means nothing to me.. and i dont think u wana call names.. i got a few that arent suitable for this board... ![]() |
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I have to agree with Wayne on this.
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just because both will break doesn't mean they're both they're both as easily broken.
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the thing i hate though.... is how people put down ipods like their the worst. every thread i see about ipods theres always people boasting on and on about how irivers are so much better. and my response is "ok.. wtf.. who cares?" people bitch on about how the ipod has low battery life, and how its much easier to brake. OK SO WHAT... IF ITS SO TERRIBLE.. DONT BUY ONE. GO DROP YOUR IRIVER A THOUSAND TIMES I DONT CARE. if a person buys an ipod thats what they want. if ipods are the most popular mp3 player on the market, you cant change people's mnds about them with all these facts... i have an ipod and im satisfied. sure irivers may have better protection, but that doesnt mean it cant be broken with a simple accident. at the end of the day.. they do the same thing..
there... the iriver has BETTER protection.. u happy now? but that still doesnt change my opinion. i can brake either just as easy. |
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i didn't bash ipods. i defended irivers when you bashed them. i didn't say anything bad about ipods, not in this thread. Sure i said i hate ipods, and that ipod users who bought it just for fashion and have like 15 songs on them have lost thier individuality, but that's not bashing ipods.
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im not being defensive. im just tired of all the "iriver worshipers". and i didnt bash on irivers. im just laying ink down on the paper. on all these ipod threads theres people hating on ipods and the people who own them because they think irivers are better. and you forgot about the people that got the ipods for the purpose of storing music on it. and not as a fashion accessory.
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baker o.O ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 446 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 97,190 ![]() |
ok all ipod bashers and iriver bashers need to quit i mean omg its a damn mp3 player!!! let people buy what they want to buy i mean hell if they want to spend $400 on an mp3 player let them!!
20 gig ipod $299.00 Specifications 5.6 ounces 2.4 x 4.1 x .57 inches Includes Apple Earphones AC Adapter FireWire cable USB 2.0 cable H320 - 20GB $299.99 Package includes * H320 Digital Music Player * iriver earphones * Carrying case * PC Software installation CD * AC adapter * USB cable * Audio Line-in cable * Printed user manual ok ok i have to say the only good thing about an iriver is the fm raido wooo i mean the lcd screen is like what 2 ins? woooo you do not have to use itunes to upload songs to an ipod :o i have anapod and it works justt fine the best thing about ipod is you can get an extended warranty for like oo $50 more? for 2 years and you can keep adding to it so it can go from a 1 year warranty to a 10 year?!? gee golly and as of right now i have a 40 gig ipod... 20 gigs are full :D all in matter they are pretty much the same in one way or another some has more things then the other doesnt but GET OVER IT just because apple spends $$$$ on advitristing that it may look like a fasion type thing, but really its a reliable company i know ive had my ipod for 4 months and borke it and whats this got a new one for free :o gee golly.... i say get what YOU want and not try to change other peoples mind because THERE JUST A DAMN MP3 PLAYER!! -Baker |
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a few things you forgot from the iriver's specifications (feel free to add things to the ipod list, like calander, etc. )
- 2 inch, 260K color screen. - picture viewing - recording from FM - record from line in - Video support (with change of firmware that's not exactly supported) - txt. viewing. yes, i did say color screen and video. |
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baker o.O ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 446 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 97,190 ![]() |
but that involves changeing the frimwear thus voiding your warranty and if you cant get the firmwear to work it could mess up your iriver and not letting you be able to get it back
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actually, many users have sent it back with korean firmware, and have had it replaced.
iriver seems to not care. but that only subtracts video from the list. the US version still has all of those things there. after using the color screen, there's no way i'm going back to a monochrome. ever. EDIT:// in order to not get off topic, let's talk about the ipod: i don't really like the scroll wheel, nor the monochrome screen, but i like how the ipod photo displays album pictures, and has wicked fast picture loading. |
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baker o.O ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 446 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 97,190 ![]() |
and this is going back to the fact that its your choice to get what you want for your needs... i know i want and mp3 player to play mp3s not video... why would i want to watch video on a 2 inch screen? and we arnt in korea so i think they might check those things before replaceing it. i dont think you should try and change someones mind on what they should get.. like i said its their dissision on what they want to get on choice of mp3 player
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well, for the same price as an ipod, i think a color screen w. video ( 2 inch screen is quite good, you'd be suprised at how well it looks -i was.) is good. anyways, i thought i wouldn't use it, but it's quite good for long bus rides.
anyways; if you want to keep talking about iriver h300s i suggest to move to that thread, as this is an ipod thread and we are off topic. |
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^^ 2 inches of screen for video?
in that case, i'd just buy a psp for cheaper. the iriver has some nice stuff. dont get me wrong, but some things it just doesnt need. if im looking for an all out media player... ill go buy a media player. but for music and only music.. im gonna get myself a mp3 player. both the ipod and iriver h300 can view pictures, which is nice. both i dont really think need it, but with ipod hacks you can use the pictures for different things. such as screen savers, logo's, charging icons, etc. im not sure if the h300 can do that (correct me if it can plz). my goal isnt to bash on the iriver players, or say that ipods are better for that matter. im just trying to get the point across that the ipod is just as good as any other player out. besides creative and iriver, nobody else makes mp3 players as good as the ipod. i remember i had an RCA jukebox (20 gb), and it was pretty good, but it always froze and the lcd screen cracked. i have yet to have anyproblems with my ipod. if you dont like ipods.... have fun with whatever mp3 player you have. but dont talk down on ipods just becasue u preffer an iriver player (or any other player for that matter) |
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ipods are cool(=
but i heard that they get scratched up easily and that they get drty |
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QUOTE(wayne @ Apr 29 2005, 3:25 PM) ^^ 2 inches of screen for video? in that case, i'd just buy a psp for cheaper. the iriver has some nice stuff. dont get me wrong, but some things it just doesnt need. if im looking for an all out media player... ill go buy a media player. but for music and only music.. im gonna get myself a mp3 player. both the ipod and iriver h300 can view pictures, which is nice. both i dont really think need it, but with ipod hacks you can use the pictures for different things. such as screen savers, logo's, charging icons, etc. im not sure if the h300 can do that (correct me if it can plz). my goal isnt to bash on the iriver players, or say that ipods are better for that matter. im just trying to get the point across that the ipod is just as good as any other player out. besides creative and iriver, nobody else makes mp3 players as good as the ipod. i remember i had an RCA jukebox (20 gb), and it was pretty good, but it always froze and the lcd screen cracked. i have yet to have anyproblems with my ipod. if you dont like ipods.... have fun with whatever mp3 player you have. but dont talk down on ipods just becasue u preffer an iriver player (or any other player for that matter) ![]() |
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Apr 22 2005, 5:10 PM) Same here. You guys are dumb, cant believe you wasted money on a crappy ipod. its gonna break in like a month. Its increasing music sales you can say that. uh ur just jelious (spell check) cause u dont have one. and ipods dont break in a month. and if they do happen to break under the apple care program they will replace it or fix it fo FREE |
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QUOTE(super_grover08 @ May 1 2005, 12:08 PM) uh ur just jelious (spell check) cause u dont have one. and ipods dont break in a month. and if they do happen to break under the apple care program they will replace it or fix it fo FREE who are you to say everyone wants an ipod? sure, the apple care program may give you a free one, but a few things: is it in 4 weekdays? do they give you another set of included accesories? (well, it wouldn't be much with an ipod...) do they give a new one, always, instead of just fixing it? |
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 1 2005, 12:10 PM) who are you to say everyone wants an ipod? sure, the apple care program may give you a free one, but a few things: is it in 4 weekdays? do they give you another set of included accesories? (well, it wouldn't be much with an ipod...) do they give a new one, always, instead of just fixing it? why do you need accesories? why dont you keep the ones you got? all you have to do is send in the system? why repair when you can get a brand new one? why in four days? thats like sending it in they hook it to some computer and then send it back and MAYBE it might work.... |
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![]() skaters gonna skate. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,861 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,336 ![]() |
i got the 20gb one..
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i have a 20gb one alota kids in my school have ipods.
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QUOTE(Baku @ May 1 2005, 8:56 PM) why do you need accesories? why dont you keep the ones you got? all you have to do is send in the system? why repair when you can get a brand new one? why in four days? thats like sending it in they hook it to some computer and then send it back and MAYBE it might work.... wow, that's because it doens't do that. how hard exactly is it to get apple to replace a player? |
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who cares if they replace it.. just put your music back on...
simple as that. you guys r making a big deal out of nothing... |
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i would personanly like a new player instead of a repaired one, thank you very much.
so still: how long does the whole process take? |
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who cares how long the process takes. it can take 2 weeks.. i dont care. as long as i dont have to lay down another 300 bucks for a new one. if they are giving me a new one well damn thanks, but if they are replacing mine, that will work too. as long as i have a working mp3 player.
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`notice how people only say 'it's only a game' or 'i don't care about this game' when they're losing.
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ May 1 2005, 9:30 PM) `notice how people only say 'it's only a game' or 'i don't care about this game' when they're losing. what that doesnt make any sense, heres what you do... shake your ipod really hard till it doesnt work k? then ship if off and be like i dont know what happend and boom they send you a new one :o wow hardzorz, i know my dad is on his 4th one and they do it happily |
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but how long does it take
two weeks is two weeks without music. i wouldn't be able to live two weeks without music. |
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I'm getting a pink mini ipod off E-bay soon, or the shuffle one. I think that they're really cute, they're making me despise CD players >_>
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haha
just got a Macally iPod Car Charger for ony $9.48 for my ipod nice price here you go: http://www.dealstudio.com/#1779 |
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QUOTE `notice how people only say 'it's only a game' or 'i don't care about this game' when they're losing. wtf r u talking about? QUOTE but how long does it take two weeks is two weeks without music. i wouldn't be able to live two weeks without music. .....then u my friend... need a life... |
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QUOTE(lilphoenix @ Apr 22 2005, 7:28 PM) example: the iPod Shuffle is only $99 bucks because you would have to purchase iTunes, and that's how they make their profit. Actually, it's the other way around. The iTunes Music Store barely makes a profit; however, it encourages people to buy iPods, which is really where Apple makes its money (at least on the music side of things). |
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correct there
apple makes a whopping 40 bucks on the sale of a 99 dollar shuffle. |
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They spend so much money on their ad's..crazy ;; ipod isnt the best ...
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