jail Options

[smile4me]

Is jail an effective deterrent for crimes?

[*mzkandi*]

if you use my some of my drug dealing uncles as examples then no. they see doing jail/prison time as a neccessary part of their "job". Rather sad if you ask me...

[fameONE]

Is jail an effective deterrent for crimes?

It is and it isn't. The fundamental principles of a correctional institution are set up well but, some criminals go in bad and come out worse. Then again, some go in, get 'turned out,' find religion, or enlighten themselves and when they're released, they become good little citizens. I've known a few people who've been locked up, and once they were let out, they were back on the streets doing the same shit they did before. Hmm, good topic.

[*basick*]

well im interested to hear what alternatives you guys have

[fameONE]

well im interested to hear what alternatives you guys have

I'm down with torture and brainwashing. Ever read 1984? Nonetheless, I'm sure if you hung a man by his ankles and soaked him with water only to give him a shock from a car battery every ten seconds, he'd straighten up. Chinese drip torture will work too if the person isn't driven insane.

In the movie (and book) 'A Clockwork Orange' the main character's mind and health was tampered with because he was given a syrum that caused him to become ill everytime he saw violent or crude and sexual images.

[aznxdreamer]

i dont see any efefctivness in jail....its just basically being locke dup ina room for a couple of years. personaly...i liked being locked in a room for many years.

[smile4me]

I'm down with torture and brainwashing. Ever read 1984? Nonetheless, I'm sure if you hung a man by his ankles and soaked him with water only to give him a shock from a car battery every ten seconds, he'd straighten up. Chinese drip torture will work too if the person isn't driven insane.

In the movie (and book) 'A Clockwork Orange' the main character's mind and health was tampered with because he was given a syrum that caused him to become ill everytime he saw violent or crude and sexual images.

uh.................

ahem. yea...haha...

those above ideas could be used.
..but torture/brainwashing: that could lead to a corrupt government - or as my friend says, "false arrests".

well im interested to hear what alternatives you guys have

rehabilitation, parole?

[Sumiaki]

Send them to Antartica to fend for their own. Problem solved.

[fameONE]

uh.................

ahem. yea...haha...

those above ideas could be used.
..but torture/brainwashing: that could lead to a corrupt government - or as my friend says, "false arrests".
rehabilitation, parole?

Hey, for your info, my sadistic suggestion is a from of rehab

Here's a thought, bring the soldiers home. Put criminals through bootcamp, flood their minds with I-Love-Uncle-Sam military propoganda, and then send 'em to fight the war. Problem solved. Too bad this idea has been pitched by the imperialists already. Nevermind, that goes into another debate.

Hey folks, this is off topic but my grandfather passed away today so I'll be out of town and away from CB for about a week.

Government corruption is an issue of perspective. Also, another topic entirely.

What kind of rehab do you suggest?

[*basick*]

RIP to your grandfather


but what if these criminals are falsely imprisoned.. thats just mean lol

[trail_of_memorie...]

Hey, for your info, my sadistic suggestion is a from of rehab 

Here's a thought, bring the soldiers home. Put criminals through bootcamp, flood their minds with I-Love-Uncle-Sam military propoganda, and then send 'em to fight the war. Problem solved. Too bad this idea has been pitched by the imperialists already. Nevermind, that goes into another debate.

Hey folks, this is off topic but my grandfather passed away today so I'll be out of town and away from CB for about a week.

Government corruption is an issue of perspective. Also, another topic entirely.

What kind of rehab do you suggest?

I think the idea of putting criminals through the terror, exceptional, noble (but not always willingly) citizens volunteer (fighting in war) for, is a great idea. Try to reinforce that one. I would like more info on this idea being neglected by the imperialist (start another debate topic maybe) when you're back "Consolation and Respect towards your grandfather)

But another point is that "Jail" is not same around the world, there are different forms of punshiment endured within the cells vary from one place to another. You have to take that into consideration...

[Individualityy]

For some yes..

But for juvenilles, eh, Idk..it's a really touchy topic...this juvenille jail time..death penalty thing. =/.

I think they should make some sort of boot camp or something, I mean make them work for their freedom, and ..idk..just tire them out both mentally and physically..o_O.

More useful, instead of spending millions of dollars just confining a person to a dimunitive jail cell.

[miss barnes]

no. obviously it doesnt really do any good because many of the people in jail are repeat offenders. they know the consequences of their actions and dont care

[CrimsonSkyGraphi...]

Send them to Antartica to fend for their own. Problem solved. 

Lmao. I realize that might not be meant to be funny, but the overall thought is.

Anyhoo. I think that regardless of what you do to them it will always depend on the individual him/herself. For some people jail works, for others bootcamp would..and so on. Actually, bootcamp might cause problems for some of the more 'rebelious' ones who don't want to do what they're told. Wouldn't that just fight back and become even worse to show they can? o_O

But anyway..It all comes down to one thing: If you want to be helped, you will. If you dont, you wont. You can be put through any type of torture and if you really enjoy or beleive in what you're doing, then you won't change.

[trail_of_memorie...]

Lmao. I realize that might not be meant to be funny, but the overall thought is. 

Anyhoo. I think that regardless of what you do to them it will always depend on the individual him/herself. For some people jail works, for others bootcamp would..and so on. Actually, bootcamp might cause problems for some of the more 'rebelious' ones who don't want to do what they're told. Wouldn't that just fight back and become even worse to show they can? o_O

But anyway..It all comes down to one thing: If you want to be helped, you will. If you dont, you wont. You can be put through any type of torture and if you really enjoy or beleive in what you're doing, then you won't change.

Thats true, you can't change a person drastically. But then you have to incorporate restrictions prohibitions, which won't allow you to hurt another being. There are many ways we can do that, but how effective is the main question we're getting at.

[Chii]

I'm down with torture and brainwashing. Ever read 1984? Nonetheless, I'm sure if you hung a man by his ankles and soaked him with water only to give him a shock from a car battery every ten seconds, he'd straighten up. Chinese drip torture will work too if the person isn't driven insane.

my god, that's only going to make him murder hundreds of more people and then committ suicide before he's caught...that is if he's released after his torture.

why does everyone want something cruel to happen to these people? they're still people...they just made a mistake, that's what humans do. i really don't believe in all these life sentences...no one deserves to sit in a jail cell for the rest of his/her life no matter what they've done, that's like slowly killing the "criminal" which isn't exactly better than what he/she's probably done.

plus, people make false arrests, innocent people would be killed and tortured and what will happen when the government finds out they made a mistake? "whoops, sorry for screwing you up and torturing you" is that what?

i have no idea what to do with these people although i agree that they should not be freed to roam around the streets within a few years after being in jail

[smile4me]

regarding the torture idea...
if we torture criminals..wouldn't that just give the younger generation the idea that we can do whatever we want to "bad" people?
we're trying to get rid of violence - not create it.
(and chii, i dont think he was uh...quite serious with that...were you, brandon? o.o)

[Saeglopur]

I think locking them up in those padded rooms in a straight jacket would work. I'm not kidding.

[Teesa]

I don't think so. While it is true that people have come out of jail and become better people, there are others like miss barnes stated that do repeat the same crimes. Some spend the time in jail thinking about what crimes they can commit when they're out.

[demolished]

Most likely, it's not ...

They should send criminal to Antartica to learn their lesson and train. If they're good, they should go back to the orgin for a warmer rewarding place.

[*nightmare4taki*]

If they bring the chain gang back and get rid of all those weight facilities then no one would want to go back. You might have a man going in at 155lbs and come out 200lbs, now how do you handle a menace.

[smile4me]

If they bring the chain gang back and get rid of all those weight facilities then no one would want to go back. You might have a man going in at 155lbs and come out 200lbs, now how do you handle a menace.

im sorry. i have no idea what you mean by weight facilities. this is about jail?

[tmauze]

Locking someone up and throwing away the key doesn't do a very good job of teaching them how wrong their actions were, however, I do see the principles behind jail.