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post Mar 19 2005, 07:38 PM
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[16:08:56 PM] antanAZAREL: The problem with most Christians is that they hypocritically force their beliefs on you even when they don't follow them.
[16:09:06 PM] --- --- ---: Exactly.
[16:09:18 PM] --- --- ---: Someone decided she wanted to talk to me about Christianity.
[16:09:34 PM] --- --- ---: And I asked her a good question
[16:09:37 PM] - ------- -: i think "real" christians are annoying as well
[16:09:39 PM] - ------- -: too strict
[16:09:43 PM] - ------- -: cant do this cant do that
[16:09:45 PM] - ------- -: aarrghh
[16:09:59 PM] --- --- ---: "If you believe in only one God, why do you say 'I love Jesus'?"
[16:10:11 PM] --- --- ---: And she gave me a speech.
[16:10:17 PM] antanAZAREL: Ew.
[16:10:17 PM] - ------- -: so im buddhist and i dont act like one..
[16:10:25 PM] --- --- ---: And then when I answered and fought back, she just said "whatever."
[16:10:25 PM] antanAZAREL: But
[16:10:30 PM] antanAZAREL: you don't force your beliefs on others
[16:10:33 PM] - ------- -: true
[16:10:35 PM] --- --- ---: Yeah.
[16:10:47 PM] --- --- ---: You know what's weird?
[16:10:56 PM] --- --- ---: People say they love Jesus and all that bullcrap
[16:11:01 PM] --- --- ---: And then act like sluts and assholes.
[16:11:04 PM] --- --- ---: How Christian is that?
[16:11:23 PM] --- --- ---: They're just doing it because its a trend. They want to say they love Jesus because everyone else is doing it.
[16:11:38 PM] antanAZAREL: HAHA omg
[16:11:47 PM] antanAZAREL: So I went to a private school for elementary and middle school
[16:11:54 PM] antanAZAREL: and I was talking to one of my friends who went there with me
[16:12:01 PM] antanAZAREL: since we're in the same English class now
[16:12:12 PM] antanAZAREL: and she told me someone from there IMed her
[16:12:15 PM] *** aShLeYs1pImPen has joined the chat.
[color=navy][16:12:22 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen:
hey
[16:12:28 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: was up
[16:12:29 PM] antanAZAREL: telling her that she'd fallen away from Christ and she felt like killing herself
[16:12:34 PM] --- --- ---: Hold on, Anna's telling a story.
[16:12:40 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: ok
[16:12:41 PM] --- --- ---: WHAT?
[16:12:42 PM] antanAZAREL: and my friend told her, "Vickie, I'm not a Christian anymore. Go kill yourself."
[16:12:43 PM] antanAZAREL: And it was fun.
[16:12:58 PM] --- --- ---: Oh goodness.
[16:12:58 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: that'''s messed up
[16:13:01 PM] --- --- ---: What a weirdo.
[16:13:04 PM] antanAZAREL: No it's not.
[16:13:08 PM] antanAZAREL: Christians are f**king stupid.
[16:13:10 PM] antanAZAREL: Most of them.
[16:13:12 PM] --- --- ---: Yep.
[16:13:16 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: i am a christian
[16:13:23 PM] --- --- ---: Lets hope you're not most of them.
[16:13:23 PM] antanAZAREL: Wow, you must be stupid too.
[16:13:26 PM] --- --- ---: Haha.
[16:13:29 PM] --- --- ---: Thank you Anna.
[16:13:50 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: no ur just f**king jealous
[16:13:53 PM] antanAZAREL: HAHAHAHA
[16:13:53 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: sry
[16:13:55 PM] antanAZAREL: OMG HAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
[16:13:55 PM] antanAZAREL: no.
[16:13:59 PM] --- --- ---: Jealous?
[16:14:01 PM] antanAZAREL: Of what?
[16:14:07 PM] antanAZAREL: That I don't get to go around being a hypocrite?
[16:14:13 PM] --- --- ---: Please, enlighten us.
[16:14:16 PM] antanAZAREL: Telling everyone, "I love Jesus!"
[16:14:17 PM] *** aShLeYs1pImPen has left the chat.
[16:14:20 PM] antanAZAREL: Stupid bitch.
[16:14:23 PM] --- --- ---: Heh heh
[16:14:40 PM] --- --- ---: Im reading over what she said
[16:14:46 PM] antanAZAREL: Wow.
[16:14:57 PM] --- --- ---: She is a hypocrite.
[16:15:04 PM] antanAZAREL: She's a "Christian," and yet when I say she's stupid, she calls me "f**king jealous."
[16:15:10 PM] --- --- ---: 'You're just jealous'?
[16:15:20 PM] --- --- ---: That makes me uncomfortable.
[16:15:27 PM] antanAZAREL: Well, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, she was probably supposed to try to convert me or some shit.
[16:15:39 PM] --- --- ---: You know what else bothers me?
[16:15:40 PM] antanAZAREL: Instead of feeding me bullshit lines.
[16:16:02 PM] --- --- ---: The bible isn't the same as how it was when it was made.
[16:16:24 PM] *** aShLeYs1pImPen has joined the chat.
[16:16:31 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: yall again
[16:16:32 PM] antanAZAREL: You're really hypocritical.
[16:16:33 PM] --- --- ---: It was changed multiple times by the Catholic Church.
[16:16:45 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: oh my gosh
[16:16:47 PM] antanAZAREL: Yeah. There's also many instances where it's disproved.
[16:16:59 PM] --- --- ---: For example.
[16:17:05 PM] --- --- ---: Mid millenium.
[16:17:18 PM] --- --- ---: The church changed the Testament because of rumors.
[16:17:22 PM] --- --- ---: I think.
[16:17:25 PM] --- --- ---: I don't remember which book
[16:17:53 PM] --- --- ---: They changed it so that more people approve.
[16:17:59 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: yall still jealous oh me cause i am christian and no i ain't stupid cause i am christian
[16:18:02 PM] --- --- ---: ...
[16:18:07 PM] --- --- ---: would you just shut up?
[16:18:10 PM] --- --- ---: No one likes you
[16:18:15 PM] --- --- ---: You're going to die alone.
[16:18:24 PM] antanAZAREL: You know what?
[16:18:32 PM] antanAZAREL: You're not a f**king Christian by the way you act.
[16:18:37 PM] antanAZAREL: You're stupid.
[16:18:40 PM] - ------- -: you are a poser
[16:18:41 PM] antanAZAREL: Christians are f**king stupid.
[16:18:41 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: ok i was planning on dieing right now matter of fact
[16:18:45 PM] antanAZAREL: THEN GO.
[16:18:48 PM] antanAZAREL: Kill yourself.
[16:18:51 PM] antanAZAREL: We're not about to give you pity.
[16:18:55 PM] - ------- -: Christians shouldnt go around saying they are
[16:19:01 PM] antanAZAREL: Real Christians wouldn't commit suicide.
[16:19:08 PM] antanAZAREL: Because, after all, "Jesus loves them."
[16:19:38 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: who said that i was going to comit suicide
[16:19:42 PM] --- --- ---: you did
[16:19:43 PM] --- --- ---: Oh
[16:19:45 PM] --- --- ---: You didn't?
[16:19:49 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: and why do u think i am not christian
[16:19:57 PM] antanAZAREL: Because of your character.
[16:20:01 PM] antanAZAREL: Of your very personality, your very speech.
[16:20:05 PM] --- --- ---: And of your ignorance
[16:20:22 PM] --- --- ---: And the fact that your SN says "pimpen" in it.
[16:20:31 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: i didn't i was going to get killed by this guy that i hired to kill me but he chickened out so i am not dead yet
[16:20:39 PM] --- --- ---: That sucks.
[16:20:40 PM] antanAZAREL: How tragic.
[16:20:41 PM] --- --- ---: Call him again.
[16:20:45 PM] antanAZAREL: How about
[16:20:48 PM] antanAZAREL: you stop being such a P**sy shit
[16:20:53 PM] antanAZAREL: and slash your own throat?
[16:21:28 PM] --- --- ---: Haha
[16:21:33 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: i sure will cause i can't stand u ugly ass hoe bothering me
[16:21:37 PM] antanAZAREL: HAHAHA
[16:21:39 PM] - ------- -: f**k if shes my last resort..
[16:21:40 PM] antanAZAREL: Hon, I'm not ugly.
[16:21:46 PM] antanAZAREL: Nowhere near it.
[16:21:55 PM] --- --- ---: Actually, Anna you are pretty good looking.
[16:22:07 PM] --- --- ---: I saw those pictures in the members photo thread.
[16:22:11 PM] --- --- ---: Those boots are hot.
[16:22:12 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: .
[16:22:35 PM] antanAZAREL: Mhm.
[16:22:42 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: i beat u r
[16:22:43 PM] antanAZAREL: HAHA
[16:22:45 PM] --- --- ---: Beat?
[16:22:46 PM] - ------- -: ashley are you asian?
[16:22:47 PM] antanAZAREL: I should wear those to junior prom.
[16:22:52 PM] --- --- ---: Yeah!
[16:23:07 PM] antanAZAREL: I'd probably get kicked out for violating dress code. ;\
[16:23:11 PM] --- --- ---: And refer to yourself as "the dominatrix"
[16:23:39 PM] - ------- -: so yeah ashley are you asian
[16:23:44 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: f**k all of yall cause u r so jealous that i look better and i am a christian
[16:23:46 PM] *** aShLeYs1pImPen has left the chat.

I won't be back to check this. But just so there's a point to this thread: How many of you actually know Christians that show their beliefs through their actions and words rather than just the line, "I'm a Christian"?

Because to be honest, I know none.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:46 PM
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my favorite line
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f**k all of yall cause u r so jealous that i look better and i am a christian
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:47 PM
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Hmm very interesting convo. N.e ways i know a girl whos a christian and she goes by the book. Even though she dosent want to. And yeah not to be rude either but some Christians are annoying. But not all of them some are really cool.
 
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There are some students, not just adults, that I know act like what you can call "christian". They actually manage to keep up their fellowship with others, never quit on their reading, and ultimately, their behavior shows.

Sadly, those people are looked upon as "pushovers" by being too nice sad.gif I mean they aren't perfect but at least they try to show the kindness part of Christianity. Pretty much, you can talk to them for the first time and conclude "s/he's a christian.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:48 PM
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not all man..

Im a christian, but not that STRICT christians.. i just go to church twice a month sometimes not even once in 4 months... but i still call myself as Christian
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:52 PM
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f**k all of yall cause u r so jealous that i look better and i am a christian

what the F**k was she saying f**k for if shes christian. thats what pisses me off about them. they think theyre better because they are christian and that is against their own beliefs. another thing i hate about christianity is all the brain washhing (done mostly by the mormons). well maybe brain washing was a little to harsh. iguess i dont really want to offend anyone. i cant think of the right word for it. but a lot of mormons make me sick.gif oh well some are okay.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:55 PM
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I agree.

I am christian but not to the point where I am constantly bringing up jesus mellow.gif

I took this from the debate on hell kicks ass, I couldn't agree more:

QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Mar 18 2005, 2:09 PM)
My take:
Many Christians take the religion so far out of context that they're living their lives as total hypocrites.
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post Mar 19 2005, 07:55 PM
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I don't think all Christian's are annoying, but some are. I'm a buddhist, and some people are like "Oh, you should switch to Christianity", and it's really bothering me. Also, this one girl, she talks about how Buddha is fat, and it's really annoying me. I mean, I don't tell other people to convert to Buddhism and I don't criticize their religion. But, that doesn't mean all Christians are bad.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(snak3y3z1001 @ Mar 19 2005, 7:46 PM)
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hahahaha. wait Azarel is movinG?
 
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there was this one time where this bible teacher and her husband wanted to convert my family. we were just like, um..ok we don't want to convert. they wouldn't leave us alone either. they came every weekend knocking on our door for months, i think. soo damn annoying. they stopped when we told them we were moving, but they still came back once or twice. there's this christian network on TV. so annoying too, even though they talk about other religions. they're trying to get people in canada to sponsor kids/families in poverty and teach them about Jesus. i mean, the only they do is get others to convert, but what do they do? they don't even follow the religious beliefs; and i'm not christian but i know the 10 commandments and i know for a fact that many don't follow it.

it's not just adults. my friend told me that this guy tried to get her to convert to christianity and he was pushing it on her. i mean, come on! are you dumb? no means NO.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(kazukizaki @ Mar 19 2005, 7:55 PM)
I don't think all Christian's are annoying, but some are. I'm a buddhist, and some people are like "Oh, you should switch to Christianity", and it's really bothering me. Also, this one girl, she talks about how Buddha is fat, and it's really annoying me. I mean, I don't tell other people to convert to Buddhism and I don't criticize their religion. But, that doesn't mean all Christians are bad.
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I agree..I said I didn't believe in god this ONE time in my english class and there was this extreme christian there and he went off on me about why I didn't believe in god and I was about to slap him. Because it's my decision, not anyone else's.
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 08:14 PM
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one of the major premises of christianity is evangelicism. you guys criticize christians for being hypocrites, but then bash them for working to spread their religion. it's illogical
 
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You know, if I made a thread about how I hate Buddhists (just an example, I don't hate Buddhists), I'd be flamed to a crisp and the thread would probably be locked quickly. Just a thought.

And to answer the question, yes, I do know people who live by the Bible. They let God's love show through their actions instead of their words. I also know hypocrites, but guess what? God doesn't like hypocrisy. It is explicity stated in the Bible that hypocrites are an abomination to Him.

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It is called the Holy Trinity.

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they think theyre better because they are christian and that is against their own beliefs. another thing i hate about christianity is all the brain washhing (done mostly by the mormons).

Mormons are not Christians. They are part of a cult. Please, people, at least recognize the difference between the real thing and the stuff that popped up because people were bored and wanted a zillion wives.
 
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QUOTE(kazukizaki @ Mar 19 2005, 2:55 PM)
I don't think all Christian's are annoying, but some are. I'm a buddhist, and some people are like "Oh, you should switch to Christianity", and it's really bothering me. Also, this one girl, she talks about how Buddha is fat, and it's really annoying me. I mean, I don't tell other people to convert to Buddhism and I don't criticize their religion. But, that doesn't mean all Christians are bad.
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ya i agree...someone was like if ur buddhist ur going to he**..i was like what?that really annoyed me...it annoyed me more b/c that person was my friend...
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 08:28 PM
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wow, that person is immature and pathetic, you're pretty content and a good debater. i seem to agree what you said to that person but i dont think all christian is stupid. i have christian friends and they're not stupid either.

Christian does show their beliefs through actions and words.
 
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QUOTE(Ballpointpencil @ Mar 19 2005, 5:14 PM)
Mormons are not Christians. They are part of a cult. Please, people, at least recognize the difference between the real thing and the stuff that popped up because people were bored and wanted a zillion wives.
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Mormons don't belong to a cult, you idiot. Only the Mormon communities in the rural parts of the states have characteristics of incest and rape, and polygamy.
 
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I agree that not all christians are annoying and take it too far, but most do. Especially the born again ones that brag about how they use to be drug attics. That's not something you should be publicly talking about. Even if you overcame it.
 
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 19 2005, 8:31 PM)
Mormons don't belong to a cult, you idiot. Only the Mormon communities in the rural parts of the states have characteristics of incest and rape, and polygamy.
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Yes, they are. I took a seminary course on Mormonism. They DO NOT stick to the core characteristics of Christianity, making them a cult. A cursory inspection of their beliefs is all it takes to discern that, even without further study. Not to mention, it is only in recent years that they even wanted to be called Christians. They consider all the other churches an abomination (read the Book of Mormon) and wanted to be considered a new religion altogether.

Get your facts straight before calling someone names next time.
 
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QUOTE(learninghowtofall @ Mar 19 2005, 8:35 PM)
I agree that not all christians are annoying and take it too far, but most do. Especially the born again ones that brag about how they use to be drug attics. That's not something you should be publicly talking about. Even if you overcame it.
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Imagine something with me for a moment. Imagine that you were blind your entire life. Let's say you went to a certain doctor, and he administered a brand new drug giving you sight. Can you imagine what it would be like to suddenly be able to see? Can you imagine taking in all the shapes and colors for the first time? Suddenly, everything would take on a new meaning.
Imagine that that happened to you. Would you be quiet about it, and never tell anyone? Or would you go to your old friends, others who were blind like you once were, and hope that they would also go take this miracle drug to gain vision also?
That is why Christians aren't quiet about their faith.
 
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or.. or... imagine a worl in which christians dodn't think they're god was the best and thier worship the only true worship in the world.

that would ROCK.
 
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QUOTE(Ballpointpencil @ Mar 19 2005, 5:36 PM)
Yes, they are. I took a seminary course on Mormonism. They DO NOT stick to the core characteristics of Christianity, making them a cult. A cursory inspection of their beliefs is all it takes to discern that, even without further study. Not to mention, it is only in recent years that they even wanted to be called Christians. They consider all the other churches an abomination (read the Book of Mormon) and wanted to be considered a new religion altogether.

Get your facts straight before calling someone names next time.
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So what you're telling me is that, if you don't stick to the core characteristics of Christianity, then you belong to a cult? So Buddhism is a cult? Hinduism, Sikhism are cults?
Well if we're going to get on this topic, what exactly would you, yourself, define as a cult? Because to someone in another religion, Christianity could be considered a cult. Someone in another religion could think any other belief system other than their own could consider it a cult.

I consider a cult to be a group of people having obsessive religious beliefs regarded by others as being strange or against their beliefs. When a belief system gets to a point where human sacrifice, torture, or obvious immorality is put to use, then it is considered a cult. The Oxford dictionary defines it as:
1.a A system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.
b. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

With that being said, someone against Christianity could think of it as being a cult, because it goes against their own personal beliefs.

Mormons are just a branch off of Christianity. Sure, these beliefs may have changed or evolved over time, but that does not make them a cult.
 
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QUOTE(perplexism @ Mar 19 2005, 8:14 PM)
one of the major premises of christianity is evangelicism. you guys criticize christians for being hypocrites, but then bash them for working to spread their religion. it's illogical
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we're not bashing them cause they're spreading their religion; we're bashing them cause they do it too much and when people say no, they don't listen.

QUOTE(Ballpointpencil @ Mar 19 2005, 8:14 PM)
Mormons are not Christians. They are part of a cult. Please, people, at least recognize the difference between the real thing and the stuff that popped up because people were bored and wanted a zillion wives.
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mormonism is a branch of christianity; it is not a cult.
 
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Cult- A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
 
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QUOTE(gotnoheart @ Mar 19 2005, 8:48 PM)
mormonism is a branch of christianity; it is not a cult.
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It is not a branch of Christianity. The leaders did not even want it considered that until more recent years. Look into their beliefs. They are radically different from the beliefs of any other Christian branch. They are not Christians. Something I find funny, though a tad off-topic, Mormon Air Force chaplains are the only ones who don't have to have a seminary degree.
 
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I don't like anyone who tries to force religion on me. Like my aunt. Every e-mail she sends me is all about god and how he graces out life everyday and that I should feel blessed because he is so great. Yeah, okay. I don't even believe in god. She should seriously just become a nun and live in a convent. I think the other nuns would gang up and kill her because she was talking about god so much.
 
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QUOTE(Ballpointpencil @ Mar 19 2005, 5:53 PM)
It is not a branch of Christianity. The leaders did not even want it considered that until more recent years. Look into their beliefs. They are radically different from the beliefs of any other Christian branch. They are not Christians. Something I find funny, though a tad off-topic, Mormon Air Force chaplains are the only ones who don't have to have a seminary degree.
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The point that I'm trying to get at here is, so what if Mormons aren't Christians? So what if Mormons don't branch from Christianity? Does that make them a cult? The reason that they are not Christians isn't enough to say their beliefs are evil.
 
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 19 2005, 8:56 PM)
The point that I'm trying to get at here is, so what if Mormons aren't Christians? So what if Mormons don't branch from Christianity? Does that make them a cult? The reason that they are not Christians isn't enough to say their beliefs are evil.
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Cult- A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

I never said their beliefs were ""evil". I never said a cult was "evil" either. I don't believe in cults, but that doesn't make them (or the people in them) evil. Just like I don't believe in Islam, but I don't consider Muslims evil. Four of my closest friends are Mormon, one reason why I took up studying their religion as a hobby. I just do not want people to continually pair Mormonism with Christianity, as they are completely separate. Different beliefs, different ways of evangelizing even.
 
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or.. or... imagine a worl in which christians dodn't think they're god was the best and thier worship the only true worship in the world.

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derrington, virtually every religion believes that its worship is the only true worship in the world. otherwise, it would hardly be a religion.
 
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Cult- A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

If "[you] do not want people to continually pair Mormonism with Christianity, as they are completely separate," then that makes Mormonism extremist and false?

So basically, anything that is separate from Christian beliefs is extremist and false, that's what you're telling me.
 
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okai i didn't even feel lyk reading the rest... gosh i mean.. Christianity is what people belive in and that's what i am.. but we are not hyprocritcall.. we just belive in what we belive.. and i don't think you should hate people b/c of their chritian faith..
 
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okai i didn't even feel lyk reading the rest... gosh i mean.. Christianity is what people belive in and that's what i am.. but we are not hyprocritcall.. we just belive in what we belive.. and i don't think you should hate people b/c of their chritian faith..
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She hates Christians because they try and enforce their religion on others and because most of them are hypocrites, not because of their Christian beliefs.
 
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She hates Christians because they try and enforce their religion on others and because most of them are hypocrites, not because of their Christian beliefs.
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Well not majority of them are hypocrites and we do not enforce our belifs on other.. We ask people to come to God and find Him but i mean if where she lives at and they "Enfore" people then i'm sorry that's the way you see it.. b/c where I live we don't enfore we just pray for you and give you time to see God work in your life
 
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hahah that girl is such a stupid idiot. it reminds me the clones that act the same way as her in my school. I think the same thing that u do about MOST Christians---they are hypocritical and pushy.
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okai i hope your not the one kalling me and idiot... really... well hey i'm just gonna say this: Belive what you belive.. if you think we are hyprocrites okai then.. But i'm not gonan get mad about it b/c there's no point.. i see the light and maybe one day you will too.. but your faith and my faith are totally different but i'm not gonna dislike you b/c we have different faiths..
 
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I think the same thing that u do about MOST Christians---they are hypocritical and pushy.
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i agree. there are a few that actually show their christianity through their actions and words, but for the most part (around my school/town at least) a lot of them are extremely hyprocritical.
 
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Hahahahahahha... thats great. Yup, wannabe-hypocritical christians, ignorant bastards with grandiose illusions of a "higher power" and a little contradictory story book that they read and follow to tell them how to live. Funny stuff, especially when most of them don't even follow half the bible.
 
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 19 2005, 6:08 PM)
So basically, anything that is separate from Christian beliefs is extremist and false, that's what you're telling me.
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That's what I thought Ballpointpencil said, as well.

Different people have different opinions. But who are you to say that Mormonism is generally considered false? Even if you "read the books," remember that there will still be many people saying that it isn't false, that it isn't a cult. What I think is so naive of people is that just because there are different religions branching off of others or new religions forming, people think it's just some cult.


And anyway, back to the topic. I don't know anyone that has ever tried to push his/her beliefs on me. There is a majority of Catholics rather than Christians, where I live. I adimt that I don't know the difference between Catholicism and Christianity, but the people I know who are Christian, tend to follow the beliefs. But they don't go around gloating about how much they love Jesus. They know deep down that they love and believe in Jesus and God. But let me remind you that there aren't that many Christians that I know of, where I live, so what I'm saying is only based on less than 10 people who are Christian.

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Imagine something with me for a moment. Imagine that you were blind your entire life. Let's say you went to a certain doctor, and he administered a brand new drug giving you sight.  Can you imagine what it would be like to suddenly be able to see? Can you imagine taking in all the shapes and colors for the first time? Suddenly, everything would take on a new meaning.
Imagine that that happened to you. Would you be quiet about it, and never tell anyone? Or would you go to your old friends, others who were blind like you once were, and hope that they would also go take this miracle drug to gain vision also?
That is why Christians aren't quiet about their faith.
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yeah but being blind and then being able to see is totally different than being a drug attict, and then recovering( it's a good thing to be recovered, dont get me wrong), but you dont need to tell the whole world every detail of everything that you did when you were high and having sex for drugs, then finding god. and then telling everyone how they live their life is wrong.
 
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one of the major premises of christianity is evangelicism. you guys criticize christians for being hypocrites, but then bash them for working to spread their religion. it's illogical
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that's right, i was about to say something like that.

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Hahahahahahha... thats great. Yup, wannabe-hypocritical christians, ignorant bastards with grandiose illusions of a "higher power" and a little contradictory story book that they read and follow to tell them how to live. Funny stuff, especially when most of them don't even follow half the bible.

um, please don't think all christians are like that, because some of us aren't.
I may have a strong faith, and a lot of people say so, but I have never forced Christiany onto another person. I may have told my best friend about it, and when she seemed uncomfortable around me, I stopped. That's why she respects me for that. stubborn.gif
 
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QUOTE(wonders79 @ Mar 19 2005, 10:51 PM)
that's right, i was about to say something like that.
um, please don't think all christians are like that, because some of us aren't.
I may have a strong faith, and a lot of people say so, but I have never forced Christiany onto another person. I may have told my best friend about it, and when she seemed uncomfortable around me, I stopped. That's why she respects me for that. stubborn.gif
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im catholic and stuff but yeah.. i dont like those ppl that are all like religion this and religion that but i'll listen to them and keep nodding my head and say "yeah.. yeah.." lol.

i go to LifeTeen on sundays and barely go to mass but yeah.. i will talk to my friends about religion and stuff like that cuz they make good convo's like discussion on creation and stuff.
 
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I got too lazy to read the convo, but from the firts lines, I think people shouldnt FORCE other ppl to believe in what they do. BUT you dont have to "HATE" them.........Im a Catholic....
 
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I think most "Christians" say that they're good Christians and don't follow the book because their religion was forced on to them. Doesn't matter by who.

I agree with Anna 100%. A lot are hypocrites.
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Mormons are not Christians. They are part of a cult. Please, people, at least recognize the difference between the real thing and the stuff that popped up because people were bored and wanted a zillion wives.



I have a friend who is Mormon and she is not part of a cult and the last thing she is going to do is have sex with 1767832 different people.

Not all Christians are forceful but I know 2 at my school who are. He is very conservative and tried to puch his religions onto myy friend one time because we're Jewish and don't believe in Jesus. I don't know excatly what happened because I wasn't there, but from my friend's story, he kept saying how she should believe that Jesus is the Messiah, etc. But I don't hate Christians. I woouldn't be mean to somene because of their religion..
 
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QUOTE(perplexism @ Mar 19 2005, 8:08 PM)
derrington, virtually every religion believes that its worship is the only true worship in the world. otherwise, it would hardly be a religion.
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haha. and that would be the basis on my 'crusade agains established religion'

and buddhism believes all other religions are fundamentally correct too.
 
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haha thats a funny convo. bleh i hate it when christians like force their religion on people or do stupid stuff to make the rest of us look bad =\
 
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QUOTE(Azarel @ Mar 19 2005, 6:38 PM)
But just so there's a point to this thread: How many of you actually know Christians that show their beliefs through their actions and words rather than just the line, "I'm a Christian"?

Because to be honest, I know none.
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i do.

For one, my friend Sarah. She's incredibly nice to everyone and she's always helping people. She's one of the few people who don't do volunteer work for community service hours, but because she really cares and wants to make a difference. Everytime you see her, whether you be happy, sad, angry, whatever.. you always end up cheerful.

there are actually a whole lot more, and i hope i'm one of them.

I agree that that one girl that came into your chat was a brainless idiot, but dont direct her stupidity to Christianity. I, for one, never try to push Christianity on other people, unless they're interested. i'm also sick and tired of people condemning Christians to be hypocrites and saying "I hate Christians". That's the same thing as saying "I hate Buddhists", "I hate Jews". If someone said something like that, he/she'd get blamed for being "prejudiced"... which is exactly what you're doing. and if you don't know any christians that actually do good and truly act like a Christian, then i'm sorry... you haven't met the right people.
 
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hahaha mine too.

anyways, I'm agnostic.
I go to friday night fellowships at the local church. but not because I believe in Christ. I think the stories in the Bible have meaning in them. I want to become a true believer of Christ, but I see no proof. As for now, I'm just going to listen in until I find faith.
 
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Im a christian and I dont try and force my beliefs on people because its wrong. It even says it in the bible thats wrong. And even though im a chiristian I no many christians that are hypocrites. Who praise the lord on sunday and on Friday curse and do all this other stuff. Christians arnt perferct. Where not supposed to be. However even though there are many hypocrites there are many christians who try and live by the bible like me. But im far from perfect.
 
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one of the major premises of christianity is evangelicism. you guys criticize christians for being hypocrites, but then bash them for working to spread their religion. it's illogical
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I know like 1 real christian. He' really nice and gets along with everyone, and if someone said, "oh, I hate christians!" he won't start yelling at them and telling them they're stupid, but he'll try and reason with them, and tell them why he thinks they're wrong.
 
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okai i hope your not the one kalling me and idiot... really... well hey i'm just gonna say this: Belive what you belive.. if you think we are hyprocrites okai then.. But i'm not gonan get mad about it b/c there's no point.. i see the light and maybe one day you will too.. but your faith and my faith are totally different but i'm not gonna dislike you b/c we have different faiths..
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no no no. i was calling the girl in the chat conversation and idiot. lol sorry if i didn't clarify that...
 
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i really don't know if im christian or what not.
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It is not a branch of Christianity. The leaders did not even want it considered that until more recent years. Look into their beliefs. They are radically different from the beliefs of any other Christian branch. They are not Christians.
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just because their beliefs don't sound as if it is a part of it, doesn't mean that it isn't. it is a part of christianity. the beliefs don't have to be exactly the same. what, so now you're going to tell me that cotholicism is not a part of christianity?

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Imagine something with me for a moment. Imagine that you were blind your entire life. Let's say you went to a certain doctor, and he administered a brand new drug giving you sight.  Can you imagine what it would be like to suddenly be able to see? Can you imagine taking in all the shapes and colors for the first time? Suddenly, everything would take on a new meaning.
Imagine that that happened to you. Would you be quiet about it, and never tell anyone? Or would you go to your old friends, others who were blind like you once were, and hope that they would also go take this miracle drug to gain vision also?
That is why Christians aren't quiet about their faith.

so what you're basically saying or implying is that Christians are the only ones who have the right to not be quiet about spreading their religion? no one else from another religion can experience the wonderous feeling of being able to see because if someone converts to another religion other can christianity, they don't have the same experience? i haven't seen any other person from another religion who, if you say no to, they stop bothering you about attempting to convert you.

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Mormons are not Christians. They are part of a cult. Please, people, at least recognize the difference between the real thing and the stuff that popped up because people were bored and wanted a zillion wives.
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actually Mormans are a part of Christianity. I happen to have many Morman friends. They are NOT part of a cult. They tend to have big families, that does not mean they have a zillion wives. You my friend, are part of the reason why many people hate Christians. You make generalizations waaaay to easily.
 
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there are some good christians i know that practice their beliefs fully and respect others. it is a rare find though.

my friend john from louisiana is a good one, and he won't even bring it up unless i say something about it.
 
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QUOTE(Azarel @ Mar 19 2005, 6:38 PM)

But just so there's a point to this thread: How many of you actually know Christians that show their beliefs through their actions and words rather than just the line, "I'm a Christian"?

Because to be honest, I know none.





i do.

For one, my friend Sarah. She's incredibly nice to everyone and she's always helping people. She's one of the few people who don't do volunteer work for community service hours, but because she really cares and wants to make a difference. Everytime you see her, whether you be happy, sad, angry, whatever.. you always end up cheerful.

there are actually a whole lot more, and i hope i'm one of them.

I agree that that one girl that came into your chat was a brainless idiot, but dont direct her stupidity to Christianity. I, for one, never try to push Christianity on other people, unless they're interested. i'm also sick and tired of people condemning Christians to be hypocrites and saying "I hate Christians". That's the same thing as saying "I hate Buddhists", "I hate Jews". If someone said something like that, he/she'd get blamed for being "prejudiced"... which is exactly what you're doing. and if you don't know any christians that actually do good and truly act like a Christian, then i'm sorry... you haven't met the right people. 


I totally agree with you. Even though i am not a Christian or a member of any other religion, I don't think that saying "I hate (most) Christians." gives anyone the right to bash a religion. That is prejudice and like [X]poised had nicely put, you haven't met the right people. You can't base your view on just a handful of people you know and decide a zillion times more people are bad. Hate is a strong word. Ultimately, it's your decision and i hope you will go out and socialize more and get to know more Christians who are not a hyprocrite.
 
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I don't think you should call yourself good looking. Thinking whether you're pretty or ugly is a matter of opinion, and the way you put it, you made it seem as if you are good looking. Okay, so the other person called you ugly. In her opinion, you might not be good looking, but that doesn't mean that you have to make it seem like if you are pretty because in my opinion, you're not all that pretty.

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[16:13:23 PM] antanAZAREL: Wow, you must be stupid too.
[16:13:26 PM] --- --- ---: Haha.


You guys are the ones that started the arguement, which is pretty sad, actually.

And a Christian is someone that believes in Christ, nothing more, nothing less. You don't have to be faithful in order to be Christian.

Most Christians may be stupid, but that doesn't mean that you have to go around critizing them.
 
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I think Christians you who try to push their religion on others arent helping, just hurting. and I could see why you are hating/annoyed with these people. I WOULD BE TO!! Many Christians are hipocrites, They say they believe in god and then walk around in skantily dressed clothing, ohhhhh yes thats REAL christian of you.
(No offense to any christians who arent pushy.)
 
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I'm not very religious but I'm Christian & Catholic... a lot of the stuff ur saying is wrong and ur stereotyping majorly. Some people have happen to be Christian are sluts but there are Jewish sluts, Buddhist or w/e sluts.. all diff kinds of sluts.. so whatever to you.
 
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I wonder where the person got sluts from mellow.gif

But yes, I agree that most Christians are hypocrites, considering I am a christian myself. Well, I am supposedly a Christian, but I have not been to a church ever. rolleyes.gif Would that make me an enemy of the church? laugh.gif hee hee. tongue.gif laugh.gif

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Anyway, my best friend is Christian. I'm Christian. My other two best friends aren't Christian. Those two best friends are my best friend's best friends. Isn't that enough to tell you that the "Christian" you were talking to may have set the wrong impression of Christianity to you so that you now think that all Christians are like that?

The world of Christianity is becoming corrupt, maybe. But it doesn't mean that there aren't ANY true Christians, and that Christianity is made up.
 
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no one said christianity was made up, if you mean it as in not a real belief.
 
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post Mar 20 2005, 06:42 PM
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I showed actions when I'm a Christian... but that girl was kinda funny.... lol... well there are cocky christians... if you seen the movie "saved" and you know mandy moore is one of those "cocky" christians... yeah there are christians that are like that. but not everyone..... i dont say "go to hell if you dont believe in God"...... or something harsh... and to let you know... not all christians are all perfect cause they believe in God.. THEY ARE BUNCH OF LOSERS WHO DOESN'T HAVE A LIFE *cough* im kidding about the "doesn't have a life" WE ALL ARE LOSERS! we always have sins.... but still that doesnt mean we're no christians... i know people are trying their best to believe God... argh... im lost right now............................. um *change the subject, well sort of* just to let you know who thinks they are perfect cause they are christian... YOU'RE WRONG! and cause you're a christian doesn't mean you all will go to heaven!! not all christian people go to heaven... some go to hell because they commit suicide..................... i know a lot of christians commit suicide... i already know few actually. ok im lost again..... *change the subject, well sort of* uhh lets see... but i say to the people who are non-christians.. i used to say like (when i was a cocky christian) "i feel bad for the non-christians. they are sucha poor people cause they dont believe in God. they think theres no such thing as God.. o dear how are they gona live?" ......... yeah i used to say that, but i realized that i was being stupid and crazy for saying that.

i know there are people who doesn't believe in God. it's okay not to believe in God. it's not wrong if you dont believe in him. There's a purpose where you will once get to know God... there are people who needs to take their time believing God... they just dont know because they DONT SEE HIM. they think they have TO SEE HIM to actually believe in him.... well i was always off and on about God saying all these negatives stuff like "God, how come i never seen Jesus..how come he doesn't visit earth? how come he's not coming here to show that he is REAL" i was really mad of course... but it doesnt mean he has to show his face to us... he's testing us... each and everyday and night, to see how much we can have faith in God and in ourselves... people who thinks they dont believe in God or think God doesn't exist. that's more like devil's word...you think it's not the devil because some of you dont believe in the devil... but i do...that's how i born like it....

ok i dont know whats my point for this topic..sorry i just got carried on...

anyways, my actual point is that "even though you are Christian. you don't mean you're all that or your perfect or you will go to heaven. you are a loser and a sinner" so yeah dont think you guys are like "perfect" because you are christian. cause you're not. some of you betray him, do a lot of sins... especially the pastors! they do all sins!!! of course they do. they drink, sleep with other husband's wife, divorce their wife, have sex with a hooker... they do a lot of bad things... so yeah everyone in this world is A COMPLETE "LOSER".

ok i'll stop here.

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YOU KNOW WHAT ANNOYS ME EVEN MORE?!?!? christian pastors who go too far who thinks they can heal PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! PUAHAHAHAHAHA i couldnt stop laughing... i bet those christian networks hired people to do that. like this black lady who acted like she was blind who comes to him and say "oh please help me, please heal me" as if he acted he was some GOD... omg.... i was so freaking pissed at those persons...they need to stop seriously... whatever cause they heal people?! what do they think of themselves...the god? grrr... and people actually believe those especially the "gullibles" when i was little, i used to watch it and i actually believed it... now im older... when i watch that i just wana beat them up lol... cause they think GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING!! yeah through him, everything is possible... but it doesnt mean like this girl prays to God "dear lord, i want to be rich the next day. and i want my crush eric to love me. im still a 7 year old girl. i want eric to purpose me in a marriage" and then the next day, DO YOU THINK GOD WILL DO EVERYTHING FOR YOU LITTLE GIRL?! you have to do it yourself too....not God, himself do all the work.. my goodness they're making God a slave!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like God is their slave. it's like "oh lord, this person wants to get heal. HEAL THIS PERSON. THIS IS MY ORDER. HEAL THIS PERSON!" my goodness... please stop. ok i'll seriously stop.
 
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post Mar 20 2005, 07:10 PM
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Religion in general is ass.

Why don't you believe me when I say I slept with Paris Hilton ( higher probability ) then if I believe in god... Is god all real, and this and that shit...

Hmmm....

But its crazy unbelievable if I said I slept with Usher. Lol Dumb asses
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 20 2005, 12:03 AM)
derrington, virtually every religion believes that its worship is the only true worship in the world. otherwise, it would hardly be a religion.

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How would you know? you can't speak for every religion. I know hinduism isn't like that, there are so many branches to hinduism, yet people i know don't believe that their religion, soles, is the only true religion.
 
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QUOTE(rememberme @ Mar 20 2005, 7:10 PM)
Religion in general is ass.

Why don't you believe me when I say I slept with Paris Hilton ( higher probability ) then if I believe in god...  Is god all real, and this and that shit...

Hmmm....

But its crazy unbelievable if I said I slept with Usher.  Lol    Dumb asses
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What the hell are you talking about, you ass.
 
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post Mar 20 2005, 10:05 PM
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Not all christians are annoying... im christian... but i dont try to 'convert' people... or chug scriptures down their throat... blink.gif i dunno... i think that was kind of a generalization... huh.gif

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this should be moved into debate now. ;)
 
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In San Antonio, everyone is either Catholic or Southern Baptist and, even if you aren't, you keep your mouth shut when there's prayer in school or when a teacher goes off on a religious rant. This kind of shit is unfair to everyone, Christian or not.

Back to the conversation, I think it's so sad and unfortunate that this country is said to be free, but the 'moral majority' or 'religious right' (Republican "Christians" that committ adultery) tell everyone what religion should be practiced by all Americans. It's sad.
 
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Hhahahahah, anna you are the shit. I love this, you make an awesome point.
 
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Anna. This is off-topic, but I miss your posts =[

Anyways, you say
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I won't be back to check this. But just so there's a point to this thread: How many of you actually know Christians that show their beliefs through their actions and words rather than just the line, "I'm a Christian"?

Because to be honest, I know none.
I think you should meet me or several other people I Know. Because I know many Christians who exemplify being a Christian. They don't just say it and go to church on Sundays as a way of showing it. They really are Christians and they show this through the way they act and talk. Granted, they can still be hypocritical at times but they aren't perfect. No one is. Everyone is a hypocrite, every single person. When people classify Christians as hypocrites it kind of angers me because yeah, we are hypocrites, but they are too. Just by someone saying they hate a Christian just because they are hypocritical is itself a hypocritical statement because they are filled with just as much hypocrisy. I agree with
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one of the major premises of christianity is evangelicism. you guys criticize christians for being hypocrites, but then bash them for working to spread their religion. it's illogical
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Anyway, I think that there are Christians out there that don't exemplify their faith through actions nor words and there are Christians out there that only speak of God 24-7 and they try to forcefeed you the bible, however, there are just as many out there who don't do that. I'm one of them and I don't think it's fair to generalize all Christian's like that because they aren't all like that. In all honesty, I know more Christian's that aren't like that than I do that are like that. I have friends that I occasionally invite to church and such but I don't invite them over to my house and try to read the bible with them. I just want them to get out there to a Christian church and see for themselves how we are and I want them to perhaps learn a bit more about Christianity. I'm not trying to force them into anything or trying to condemn them just because their beliefs aren't the same as mine. It's unfair to say that all Christians do that. And just because I don't do that doesn't mean I'm not a strong Christian or that I'm not extremely religious because you would assume that an extremely religious, strong Christian would do that. I'm just as religious as those people out there that choose to try to force people into their religions, I just choose not to work that way. I think that a little bit irrelevant to say but I'm trying to make a point that not all Christians are the same and you can't generalize them like that. Especially because there are so many denomiations of Christianity that often the views of Christian's gets skewed. Uh yeah...I'm lost now in what I was going to say and such...my train of thought is gone...*sigh* I'll come back and edit this post. Haha. I think most of what I said was extremely repetitive and redundant so I'll come back and hopefully make a better point when I'm less tired.
 
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and so the first book of the scripture-of-the-'get-away-from-me-you-jesus-freak' was written.

i dub it...

azarel 1:1


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I'm a Catholic and I go to church every Saturday. But, hell I don't give everyone around me a huge speech about Christianity.
 
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Well..it's not right to force a religion upon someone..I agree with that..I mean, if you wanted to be baptized or accepted into that religion..you would. Only do what you want to do. BUT! Call me stupid, call me a hypocrite..but I have to say I am quite offended by your convo. Sure..it was long and interesting..but you've got it all wrong. People just don't say 'I love Jesus' just because it's supposedly in or whatever..they do it because they believe in Him. It's wonderful to hear or see that people say and type that, etc. It doesn't make them a hypocrite or whatever, especially if they cuss and they're Christian..EVERYONE sins..EVERYONE makes mistakes..no one is perfect..God knows that, and that's why there's the Bible..to guide you, to rid you of your habits. Don't just jump to conclusions and say 'Oh I hate (most) Christians' whatever. That's a bunch of BS. But hey..this is my opinion and all so no hard feelings, only speaking my mind. I could care less if any of you disagree with me. I'm not 'going with what's in' and saying 'I love Jesus' just for the heck of it..it's because I know I do..but this isn't about me..so yah..I don't know about where you live, but where I live, us Christians don't go door-to-door forcing our religion upon people we don't know. People who want to know more about God come to our church and learn, they do it on there free will. But oh well, that's your opinion, this is mine.
 
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>.<
This is what happens when religion is discussed, anywhere.

Religion is a belief. Nobody can stop people from believing what they want. That chat is an example of one person who likes theirself a lot.

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u r so jealous that i look better


BUT,

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Christians are f**king stupid.

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16:13:16 PM] aShLeYs1pImPen: i am a christian
[16:13:23 PM] --- --- ---: Lets hope you're not most of them.
[16:13:23 PM] antanAZAREL: Wow, you must be stupid too.


That's incredibly ridiculous. Some people are born Christians and find the religion interesting. That's horrible, looking at someone and saying "Oh that person is Christian, they are stupid." Horrible.

Christians DO worship one God, but saying "I love Jesus" doesn't necessarily show that person is a hypocrite. I don't worship Jesus, he is not God, Jesus is a symbol, a very great person. Saints arent worships either. In Christianity, Jesus and Saints are viewed as role models. Confirmation Class.

I mean, I don't mean to go too far, but hating someone for their religious beliefs is just... wrong. I would talk about Hitler, but that would be going too far. So I'll just end it here.
 
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that's terrible. i hope i don't do that to others..and hopefully you all realize not every christian is like that =]
 
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That's incredibly ridiculous. Some people are born Christians and find the religion interesting. That's horrible, looking at someone and saying "Oh that person is Christian, they are stupid." Horrible.

Christians DO worship one God, but saying "I love Jesus" doesn't necessarily show that person is a hypocrite. I don't worship Jesus, he is not God, Jesus is a symbol, a very great person. Saints arent worships either. In Christianity, Jesus and Saints are viewed as role models. Confirmation Class.

I mean, I don't mean to go too far, but hating someone for their religious beliefs is just... wrong. I would talk about Hitler, but that would be going too far. So I'll just end it here.

I totally agree with you. I'm not saying anyone has to stop, cuz I can't make anyone stop, but I don't think that it's a good idea to start anymore threads about religion or anything involving religious beliefs, etc. It only starts problems.
 
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I'm suprised this topic has gone as long as it has - ppl close topics a lot less offensive and disturbing than this.
Just keep in mind, you cannot stereotype EVERY christian as being this way,
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insulting a christian because they believe in 'stupid things' or 'want to share their beliefs with you' is just like insulting a black person because they are black. its part of who they are, not a personality trait.

I think this is such a pointless discussion as most ppl are just writing nonsense and hurtful things to each other. what is the point?
 
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QUOTE(perplexism @ Mar 19 2005, 8:14 PM)
one of the major premises of christianity is evangelicism. you guys criticize christians for being hypocrites, but then bash them for working to spread their religion. it's illogical
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yeah i agree
 
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QUOTE(sammehmyst @ Mar 21 2005, 9:33 PM)
>.<
This is what happens when religion is discussed, anywhere.

Religion is a belief. Nobody can stop people from believing what they want. That chat is an example of one person who likes theirself a lot.
BUT,
That's incredibly ridiculous. Some people are born Christians and find the religion interesting. That's horrible, looking at someone and saying "Oh that person is Christian, they are stupid." Horrible.

Christians DO worship one God, but saying "I love Jesus" doesn't necessarily show that person is a hypocrite. I don't worship Jesus, he is not God, Jesus is a symbol, a very great person. Saints arent worships either. In Christianity, Jesus and Saints are viewed as role models. Confirmation Class.

I mean, I don't mean to go too far, but hating someone for their religious beliefs is just... wrong. I would talk about Hitler, but that would be going too far. So I'll just end it here.
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^ I agree.

I know a lot of Christian ppl and they're good hearted people. They don't go around boasting their religion, they just keep their faith private. My bf is Christian and his faith means everything to him. We're both very religious/spiritual. All Jesus asks is for ppl to believe in Him. I think it's very ignorant for anyone to bash a religion. And I'm sure that this topic has offended many ppl.
 
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umm.. christians know theyre not perfect, and they know no one is perfect, and sometimes, or all the time, something just slips out of them that they dont really mean.
 
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[16:18:41 PM] antanAZAREL: Christians are f**king stupid.


i dont like that??................
 
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exactly why i despise christians

i'm not christian in that aspect, i believe in christianity, quite different acutally

the people themselves seem quite ignorant, especially branches of catholicism.

anyways, im orthodox, the unchanged sect of the bible, and im happy im not a sect of catholicism.
 
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QUOTE(rememberme @ Mar 20 2005, 6:10 PM)
Religion in general is ass.

Why don't you believe me when I say I slept with Paris Hilton ( higher probability ) then if I believe in god...  Is god all real, and this and that shit...

Hmmm....

But its crazy unbelievable if I said I slept with Usher.  Lol    Dumb asses
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what the hell, man.

it's true, a lot of religions require an x factor, which is FAITH.

and you sleeping with paris hilton and usher has nothing to do with "is there a God"

and, i think i've mentioned this before way earlier... i just LOVE how so many of you condemn people for being racist and prejudiced, then go straight into saying "I HATE CHRISTIANS" "CHRISTIANS ARE f**king STUPID" etc. So, i guess you're not a hypocrite?
 
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Alright, Alright.
 
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All you people are going to hell!!!!!!!!!!!.

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