Questions to Christians... Options

[sikdragon]

In some entries it looks like i am threatening people with hell. I am not i am just stating facts out of my book. If i didnt care i just wouldnt say anything at all. It really hurts me to see so many rejection God so fully when he loves you so much.

[sporadic]

It does seem like you're trying to scare me into believing into God. The more you talk about God, the more I start not liking the idea of there being a God. And how you talk about him makes him seem like he's trying to make people fear him, and therefore obey.

[Mini]

If He loves us so much, why is He condemning us? If He gave us the power of free-will, why take that gift back? It's like me giving my brother a choice of two gifts, but my brother can only choose the one in my right.

[raw_material]

god doesnt want u 2 feer him ...god is a god of love....if right now u say i dont believe in this god ....u kno wat he thinks...he still loves no matter wat u say or wat u do...he still loves u...he sent his own son 2 die 4 us in the cross so we can b cleaned of our sins....im sure if u ask god 2 show u away if he is true or not he will answer u...

[sporadic]

Yeah, that's a really good point.

But it's like.. God is testing your faith. Like, let's say everyone's telling you to pick the present on your right because it has candy. But the present on your left is coal. Except you can't trust the people who are telling you to choose that present. God is trusting you to pick the right present.

Funny that I'm explaining this, because I'm mostly an Athiest.

[sikdragon]

God is a good God he is just meaning he is a God of justice. as much as he loves you, if you choose evil he must condem you to hell. he didnt take it back, you can choose to do what you want you choose what you want, paradise or the lake of fire.

[sikdragon]

but ur starting to understand.

[Mini]

God is a good God he is just meaning he is a God of justice. as much as he loves you, if you choose evil he must condem you to hell. he didnt take it back, you can choose to do what you want you choose what you want, paradise or the lake of fire.

As I said, how do you know which to choose? Only faith helps us. It's like He is condemning the people that were raised up with different religions. And you know how hard it is to change one's beliefs and opinions.

[sikdragon]

he isnt he loves everyone. do you think he doesnt take that into consideration at judgement?

[raw_material]

As I said, how do you know which to choose? Only faith helps us. It's like He is condemning the people that were raised up with different religions. And you know how hard it is to change one's beliefs and opinions.

yea its hard 2 change religions like seriously hard....but thats our mission on earth...2 turn non believers into believers...no matter if it kills us...god wants us 2 make every1 go 2 heaven....it wont happen....dont u think if god wasnt a free will god then he would slap u everytime u sin....thats why the devil is around....he wants us 2 sin bcuz he hates god

[Mini]

he isnt he loves everyone. do you think he doesnt take that into consideration at judgement?

But didn't the Bible state that who doesn't believe in God and Jesus are going to Hell? So say if I was raised to believe in God, Buddha (prophet), and Jesus, wouldn't I go to Hell because I believe in Buddha as a prophet and I believe in the teachings of Buddha?

That's what I am asking. Also, what if a person was raised up to believe in the Hindu teachings? They don't believe in God, thus would they go to Hell because they were raised up that way?

Does that Bible say that there are exceptions? Also, what if there is another religion that also says if you don't believe in their God(s) or some other universal being, that you would go to Hell. How do you choose from that? Too bad God can turn himself into a physical being and fly around and tell people to believe.

[sporadic]

You can't, you should be able to know inwardly what you truly believe in.

[raw_material]

But didn't the Bible state that who doesn't believe in God and Jesus are going to Hell? So say if I was raised to believe in God, Buddha (prophet), and Jesus, wouldn't I go to Hell because I believe in Buddha as a prophet and I believe in the teachings of Buddha?

That's what I am asking. Also, what if a person was raised up to believe in the Hindu teachings? They don't believe in God, thus would they go to Hell because they were raised up that way?

Does that Bible say that there are exceptions? Also, what if there is another religion that also says if you don't believe in their God(s) or some other universal being, that you would go to Hell. How do you choose from that?

yea but every other religion doesnt have the bible...we do not them.....god says every1 will hear the gospell atleas once or hear about god.....but thats our fault(christians) that if we dont give the word out those pple will go 2 hell bcuz of us.....when we are at school with our friends that dont believe in god its our job 2 let them kno about god and his gift...sometimes we are to ashame 2 talk about god cuz they will make fun of us....but if we dont tell them about his gift...then who will we dont kno if some1 else will tell them...then its our fault that they have 2 suffer bcuz we were 2 scared 2 talk to them about him

[Mini]

yea but every other religion doesnt have the bible...we do not them.....god says every1 will hear the gospell atleas once or hear about god.....but thats our fault(christians) that if we dont give the word out those pple will go 2 hell bcuz of us.....when we are at school with our friends that dont believe in god its our job 2 let them kno about god and his gift...sometimes we are to ashame 2 talk about god cuz they will make fun of us....but if we dont tell them about his gift...then who will we dont kno if some1 else will tell them...then its our fault that they have 2 suffer bcuz we were 2 scared 2 talk to them about him

So you are saying God has already condemned us. Our gift is also our curse. Basically if either you don't know about God or unsure of God, we are forever damned. God should give us a better chance. I don't trust God's followers.

[sporadic]

But that's incredibly unfair. If you don't know about God, you go to Hell anyway, just because? Isn't God a little bit wiser than that?

[Mini]

But that's incredibly unfair. If you don't know about God, you go to Hell anyway, just because? Isn't God a little bit wiser than that?

What is even worse is that you also have to acknowledge God's gift, Jesus Christ, for dying on the cross and saved us. I feel bad for everyone who doesn't have the internet to learn about this because God's followers didn't do their job.

[raw_material]

So you are saying God has already condemned us. Our gift is also our curse. Basically if either you don't know about God or unsure of God, we are forever damned. God should give us a better chance. I don't trust God's followers.

his gift is not a curse....either u take the gift...or u dont

u believe wat u belive...but i garantee u theres thing in life u belive bcuz word of mouth...if the radio say we are having a sale everything is 50 percent off..u go 2 the store just cuz u heared it was 50 percent off...this is the bottom line clearly got had 2 had told us something or we are entittled to our own opinions ..i believe that if hes gonna hold humans responsible ..and hes an intellectual god hes not gonna b sapping us 4 every little bad thing we do...god has either communicated wat he expects and communicated these answers 2 the questions we are talking about..and its not one of those things that "nobody knows" somebody does kno all does who agree that god has spoken then we have find out where has he spoken then we have to trust or reject taht he is the final word on issues and the key is that we dont recycle because god has already said u die once and ur judged and the answer to that is "nobody knows" the answer is do u believe that god has said that and we just gotta understand god has cleared all of this up none of this matters wat matter is that when u are ready 2 die are u willing 2 risk ur eternaty on "nobody knows"...wat are u gonna believe on the hope or no we are not gonna b accountable bcuz "nobody really knew"

[raw_material]

But that's incredibly unfair. If you don't know about God, you go to Hell anyway, just because? Isn't God a little bit wiser than that?

the god says ...every1 will heare the gospell(his word) atleast once....its up 2 us his followers 2 make sure every2 accepts his word...so every1 is giving a chance...god is a fair god...

[Mini]

Here's an interesting website about Hell. Read http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

NOTHING'S WORTH TAKING THE CHANCE!

It's simple to be saved ...

    * Realize you are a sinner.

          "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" Romans 3:10

          "... for there is no difference. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23

    * Realize you CAN NOT save yourself.

          "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; ..." Isaiah 64:6

          "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, ..." Titus 3:5

    * Realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins.

          "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, ..." 1 Peter 2:24

          "... Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood," Revelation 1:5

    * Simply by faith receive Jesus Christ as your personal Savior.

          "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" John 1:12

          " ...Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."" Acts 16:30,31

          "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16


WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?

Pray this prayer, and mean it with all your heart.

Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and unless you save me I am lost forever. I thank you for dying for me at Calvary. I come to you now, Lord the best way I know how, and ask you to save me. I now receive you as my Savior. In Jesus Christ Name, Amen.

[sikdragon]

that is incredible unfair. i know plenty of people who dont have the internet who have heard from me. and u arent reading what i wrote. There are many common beliefs among the religions, but remember every acknowledgement of a higher power is God who is Jesus. if you dont live by the commandments and dont ask for forgiveness you will go to hell. the ten commandments are basic morality and are accepted in some form for many cultures. every person is different and will be judged according to their circumstances.

[raw_material]

u believe wat u belive...but i garantee u theres thing in life u belive bcuz word of mouth...if the radio say we are having a sale everything is 50 percent off..u go 2 the store just cuz u heared it was 50 percent off...this is the bottom line clearly got had 2 had told us something or we are entittled to our own opinions ..i believe that if hes gonna hold humans responsible ..and hes an intellectual god hes not gonna b sapping us 4 every little bad thing we do...god has either communicated wat he expects and communicated these answers 2 the questions we are talking about..and its not one of those things that "nobody knows" somebody does kno all does who agree that god has spoken then we have find out where has he spoken then we have to trust or reject taht he is the final word on issues and the key is that we dont recycle because god has already said u die once and ur judged and the answer to that is "nobody knows" the answer is do u believe that god has said that and we just gotta understand god has cleared all of this up none of this matters wat matter is that when u are ready 2 die are u willing 2 risk ur eternaty on "nobody knows"...wat are u gonna believe on the hope or no we are not gonna b accountable bcuz "nobody really knew"

[sikdragon]

im not sure what you said buddy, but unless you were talkin to me, it sounds good.

[raw_material]

Here's an interesting website about Hell. Read http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

its that simple u wrote it urself...
Realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins.

"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, ..." 1 Peter 2:24

"... Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood," Revelation 1:5

* Simply by faith receive Jesus Christ as your personal Savior.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" John 1:12

" ...Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."" Acts 16:30,31

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16


WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?

if u die 2day ...from 0-100% ..how sure are u that ur going 2 heave

[raw_material]

im not sure what you said buddy, but unless you were talkin to me, it sounds good.

my bad it was not dirrected 2 u..it was for everyone 2 read...im on ur side kid come on lol

[sikdragon]

alright lol

[Mini]

that is incredible unfair. i know plenty of people who dont have the internet who have heard from me. and u arent reading what i wrote. There are many common beliefs among the religions, but remember every acknowledgement of a higher power is God who is Jesus. if you dont live by the commandments and dont ask for forgiveness you will go to hell. the ten commandments are basic morality and are accepted in some form for many cultures. every person is different and will be judged according to their circumstances.

What I am corcerning is the Hindus' and other religions where there are more than one God. They believe in reincarnation and there are thousands and thounsands of Hindu Gods. Basically, they just pick one to worship. But in essence as you are saying, there is only one universal being. So basically for those who live in 3rd world countries under national isolation, won't hear about God or that you only die once. Although all religion provides basic morals and how to live a good life without "sins," some don't know about God and his gift.

[sporadic]

All this talk about god makes me feel ishy and bad, and I'm pretty sure that's not the reaction I'm supposed to have.

[sikdragon]

im not sure what ishy is but on one side you have one that is arguing about the morality of God, and then me and that other guy answering. that is why we have missionaries. and God can talk to people, have you ever thought of that?

[sporadic]

The one person that god spoke to that I'm thinking of right now was burned at the stake, and everyone thought she was a witch.

And yes, I have thought of that.

The thought of dedicating myself to god makes me feel uncomfortable and wrong.

[Mini]

im not sure what ishy is but on one side you have one that is arguing about the morality of God, and then me and that other guy answering. that is why we have missionaries. and God can talk to people, have you ever thought of that?

Tell that to the people who died without knowing God exists. Trillions of people died in the past without knowing anything about God. They are burning in Hell right now because they didn't know about God.

If indeed true that God talks to a person, how does one know if it isn't the Devil speaking? If God loves us so, He would have sent a more clearer and global message so everyone would know in time before they die. Satan can only be at one place at one time, but God is everywhere. Why didn't God use everything in His power to give out that message?

[sikdragon]

u havent read anything i have said. that is taken into consideration in judgement. we dont know they are in hell.

why does it make u feel uncomfortable?

[raw_material]

The one person that god spoke to that I'm thinking of right now was burned at the stake, and everyone thought she was a witch.

And yes, I have thought of that.

The thought of dedicating myself to god makes me feel uncomfortable and wrong.

the though of dedicating urself 2 god makes u feel unconftable and wrong..
why is that ??

im sure if u accept jesus as ur savior and taht he died 4 u i the cross and u believe u can have eternal life and go 2 heaven...... after that god will work in ur life even u might feel wrogn now but god works in wonderfull ways u would be surprise wat he will do 4 u in the future

oh yea from 1-100 how certain are u that ur going 2 heaven?

[Mini]

u havent read anything i have said. that is taken into consideration in judgement. we dont know they are in hell.

why does it make u feel uncomfortable?

I have read what you wrote, but you first stated that you need to believe in Jesus Christ to go to Heaven. That's what every source I look up tell me, that in a point in life before you die, if you haven't acknowledged Jesus Chirst, you will go to Hell.

DON'T BE CAUGHT DEAD WITHOUT JESUS!

You may have made some terrible mistakes in your life. There may be some things in your life you would give anything to be able to change. But friend, I assure you — if you die without Jesus Christ — it'll be the worst mistake you could possibly make!

Has there ever come a time and a place in your life, when you received Jesus Christ as your personal Savior?

If not, you are on the way to hell!

Don't let anyone convince you that when you die it will be all over! The Bible says in Hebrews 9:27:

    "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this THE JUDGMENT." Hebrews 9:27

Revelation 20:15 says:

    "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE." Revelation 20:15

If you've never received Jesus Christ as your Savior, bow your head this minute and ask the Lord Jesus Christ to save you.Don't put it off another second!

This is from a website I found.

[sporadic]

0, I am fairly sure that I'm going into the ground.

I'm not sure exactly why I feel like it, it's just how I feel. I couldn't and I won't dedicate myself to an alleged God, because I would feel like I'm only doing it because I don't want to go to Hell.

[xnastyninjagrlx]

Yeah, that's a really good point.

But it's like.. God is testing your faith. Like, let's say everyone's telling you to pick the present on your right because it has candy. But the present on your left is coal. Except you can't trust the people who are telling you to choose that present. God is trusting you to pick the right present.

Funny that I'm explaining this, because I'm mostly an Athiest.

Actually GOD DOES test you FAITH..

just like he did with Abraham..he had only ONe son
but God needed to know if he was faithful
to him so he told Abraham to go to the mountain and
kill his one and only son. Right when Abraham was
about to kill his son, God told him to stop cuz he
saw how Abraham was so faithful.

[sikdragon]

Jesus is The higher power that everyone knows about.

[Mini]

Fifty percent.

Jesus is The higher power that everyone knows about.

Tell that to my Communist great great grandfather that died.

[sikdragon]

he knows.

[raw_material]

0, I am fairly sure that I'm going into the ground.

I'm not sure exactly why I feel like it, it's just how I feel. I couldn't and I won't dedicate myself to an alleged God, because I would feel like I'm only doing it because I don't want to go to Hell.

u say ur going to the ground why is that
u kno taht if u believe that jesus died 4 u...i garantee u taht u will go 2 heaven...u dont have 2 worry about serving god right now....just worry about going 2 heaven or hell....once u believe that jesus died 4u...boom the holy spirit will hook u up believe me....are u willing 2 accept jesus as ur savior?? wat do u have 2 lose?

[sporadic]

My self-respect and convictions?

[Mini]

he knows.

You can't assume that. Communism had the Iron Curtain, communism controlled everything. So you can't say he knows that.

[raw_material]

My self-respect and convictions?

sorry i didnt get it...can u explain better....like which convictions and wat do u mean self respect?

[xnastyninjagrlx]

I have read what you wrote, but you first stated that you need to believe in Jesus Christ to go to Heaven. That's what every source I look up tell me, that in a point in life before you die, if you haven't acknowledged Jesus Chirst, you will go to Hell.



This is from a website I found.

Actually to know Jesus Christ is just part of it. Most people know about the Bible and Jesus Christ. Heck, even the Devil knows Jesus Christ. He knows that he is the all mighty God. THe difference is that we shouldn't only Know who Jesus is..but we should have a stable and relationship with God. He is not going to let you go to Heaven, JUST because you know him...cuz a lot of ppl know him but really haven't "walked" with him. Get iT??

[sporadic]

What I believe in. If I just gave in and said I believed in God and that Jesus Christ was my Saviour, I would be lying. And that is wrong. When I am ready to believe in God and Jesus I will know it.

[Mini]

Actually to know Jesus Christ is just part of it. Most people know about the Bible and Jesus Christ. Heck, even the Devil knows Jesus Christ. He knows that he is the all mighty God. THe difference is that we shouldn't only Know who Jesus is..but we should have a stable and relationship with God. He is not going to let you go to Heaven, JUST because you know him...cuz a lot of ppl know him but really haven't "walked" with him. Get iT??

No duh. That's what I am saying for all those unfortunate people who didn't know about God and Jesus yet alone have a stable relationship with God.

[sikdragon]

good for you sister. and you will know it.

[raw_material]

What I believe in. If I just gave in and said I believed in God and that Jesus Christ was my Saviour, I would be lying. And that is wrong. When I am ready to believe in God and Jesus I will know it.

once u believe in jesus as ur savior....the holy spirit and god will work in ur life...even do u want 2 lie saying u dont 2 dedicate ur life 2 god....change will happen even when u least expect it..

just like xnastyninjagrlx said even the Devil knows Jesus Christ. He knows that he is the all mighty God. THe difference is that we shouldn't only Know who Jesus is..but we should have a stable and relationship with God. He is not going to let you go to Heaven, JUST because you know him...cuz a lot of ppl know him but really haven't "walked" with him....one u believe god will provide ways 2 worship him...its good and awesome 2 believe...but u also gotta play ur roll and walk with god

[sporadic]

I don't think you get it. If I lied and said that I completely and fully believed in Jesus and God, that's like asking to get sent to Hell. Or maybe you did get that, I just wanted to make sure that would be acknowledged.

[sikdragon]

yeah but if you were sorry then you wouldnt go to hell. and im sorry you feel that way. I still love you tho.

[Mini]

once u believe in jesus as ur savior....the holy spirit and god will work in ur life...even do u want 2 lie saying u dont 2 dedicate ur life 2 god....change will happen even when u least expect it..

just like xnastyninjagrlx said even the Devil knows Jesus Christ. He knows that he is the all mighty God. THe difference is that we shouldn't only Know who Jesus is..but we should have a stable and relationship with God. He is not going to let you go to Heaven, JUST because you know him...cuz a lot of ppl know him but really haven't "walked" with him....one u believe god will provide ways 2 worship him...its good and awesome 2 believe...but u also gotta play ur roll and walk with god

I don't even worship Buddha or talk to him that much. I am not a very religious person. Even if I believe in God and Jesus, and I talk to the universal being. Does that mean I still go to Hell because I don't worship him or read the Bible?

[raw_material]

I don't even worship Buddha or talk to him that much. I am not a very religious person. Even if I believe in God and Jesus, and I talk to the universal being. Does that mean I still go to Hell because I don't worship him or read the Bible?

the real question here is .....when u die...do u kno u are going 2 heaven or hell? and why

[sikdragon]

it all depends on how you lived your life. only God can judge you. and yes if you lived a sinful life and was not openly remorseful you would go to hell. the reason to be good is not fear of hell but your love of God.

[xnastyninjagrlx]

I don't think you get it. If I lied and said that I completely and fully believed in Jesus and God, that's like asking to get sent to Hell. Or maybe you did get that, I just wanted to make sure that would be acknowledged.

YAh your right. God doesn't want you to believe in Him for the sake of believing. I do believe that God has a purpose for you and in sometime of your life, you will see God's gift and what he has in store of you.

[xnastyninjagrlx]

I don't even worship Buddha or talk to him that much. I am not a very religious person. Even if I believe in God and Jesus, and I talk to the universal being. Does that mean I still go to Hell because I don't worship him or read the Bible?

I know it's hard to believe..but yes..you can't just worship any God. That is his very first commandment, "You shall have no other gods before me" As Christians we believe our religion is the right one. I am not trying to sound arrogant, but that is what we believe to be true. So, if you can't say you acknowledge The God, Jesus Christ as Lord then I believe you will go to Hell.

[raw_material]

YAh your right. God doesn't want you to believe in Him for the sake of believing. I do believe that God has a purpose for you and in sometime of your life, you will see God's gift and what he has in store of you.

you are totally right...god might now want u now...but we can tell god has a future 4 u...thats him working on u right now...and u dont even realize it...god has a future 4 him...just dont give up and pray

[sikdragon]

we were talking about people who hadnt known them by their names.

[sporadic]

Don't all religions believe their religion to be the right one?

[raw_material]

Don't all religions believe their religion to be the right one?

not all the religions have the 10 commandments.....one of the commandments says...2 not worship other gods and other idols...there is only one god
many religions have many gods...there is only one god
or wat evotion made the 10 commandments? the stones decided 2 write on themselves?

[sikdragon]

every other religion's doctrine if it has one, contradicts itself at one time or another. I myself have researched other religions and have found this one to be the truest.

[raw_material]

every other religion's doctrine if it has one, contradicts itself at one time or another. I myself have researched other religions and have found this one to be the truest.

why is the truest....bcuz the bible has proven events that where written back in the days and have come true....and there are many more 2 come...but god is with us

[Spirited Away]

"The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it seems to me the deepest root of all evil that is in the world." - Max Born

[sporadic]

not all the religions have the 10 commandments.....one of the commandments says...2 not worship other gods and other idols...there is only one god
many religions have many gods...there is only one god
or wat evotion made the 10 commandments? the stones decided 2 write on themselves?

Okay, what the hell?
We've been through this before. I'm not even going to bother explaining it.

[raw_material]

Okay, what the hell?
We've been through this before. I'm not even going to bother explaining it.

i kno my bad i4got we went thru that already...anyways like i asked u b4....do u still pray or did u stop or wat happend?

[sporadic]

What I did isn't what I would call praying. I was completely selfish.

[sikdragon]

if ur sorry he forgives you.

[raw_material]

What I did isn't what I would call praying. I was completely selfish.

oh i see i get u about the hole selfish thing uve been saying this hole time and i was likehuh?
um anyways why dont u start fresh? one small prayer at night wont kill u...it wont b selfish if u just say hey god um bless my day or something..its cool he will lisen2 u by the way cool signature

[sporadic]

Thanks.

Yeah, sometime last year I had a sort of realization of how selfish and conceited and awful I'd been for awhile. So that was a big part in my life, and I feel much better now that I've realized how I was before. I regret that whole period, but I'm going to make up for it in time.

I'm not speaking religiously, necessarily.

[raw_material]

Thanks.

Yeah, sometime last year I had a sort of realization of how selfish and conceited and awful I'd been for awhile. So that was a big part in my life, and I feel much better now that I've realized how I was before. I regret that whole period, but I'm going to make up for it in time.

I'm not speaking religiously, necessarily.

yea i get u no biggie....well wat happend in the past stays in the past....thats why when u believe in jesus as ur savior...its called borned again...bcuz u did all that stuff withouth the holy spirit in u....even when u believe in god..ur still gonna sin...thats why the devil is around...but god will give u the strenght 2 push on...
i kno now u dont seem like u wanna give ur life 2 god...but im sure god will come back at u.,.and will make sure that time happens....prayers work homie!

[Suesterrx]

If He loves us so much, why is He condemning us? If He gave us the power of free-will, why take that gift back? It's like me giving my brother a choice of two gifts, but my brother can only choose the one in my right.

god always has a reason for everything.

[PinkTrash]

;] I believe in God, and in some ways people around me influence to believe in Buddism and others.. I dont think its right that if you believe partially in another religion that you'd be punished for it.. Buddism doesn't do that.. I think its not exactly true..

[sikdragon]

Many other religions have the same fundamentals as the Bible, but if you believe as Buddhists do and not do anything negative toward a neighbor then that is like saying love thy neighbor as thy self. There is only positive and negative, good and evil, black and white, hot and cold.
There is no middle man. No gray area.

Choose a side and stick with what your heart leads you to believe. Don't get confused when you love something more than somebody then there is a serious problem. God's word is as good as God himself. Just like your word, it should be as good as you. Christ lived by example, follow it.

[gigiopolis]

It does seem like you're trying to scare me into believing into God. The more you talk about God, the more I start not liking the idea of there being a God. And how you talk about him makes him seem like he's trying to make people fear him, and therefore obey.

Yes, I agree. Everyone talks so much about it that I dislike the idea..it's like He's some sort of evil dictator now. "Listen to me, listen to me, listen to me." I don't have anything against God, don't get me wrong. I think it's a good thing to have a religion to believe in, but I hate the idea of people pushing others to believe! You just can't do that. It's just morally incorrect.

[sikdragon]

let's say there was a flyer around school about a party in the Gym. When you go hear that the teachers are all aliens and are trying to get worms into the ears of all the student population. You witness one person get taken and you try to warn others not to go in there and are trying to save the world from the aliens. Your friends and parents won't listen to you because it sounds stupid and the party sounds like more fun.

Would that be too pushy then?
Ignorance is bliss.

[espionage]

Whoa. Is that from Animorphs?

Urgency requires trust, in which ignorance does not give. Bliss is ignorance, but so is urgency sometimes. IMO, I think it's best for all of you to check Christianity out, and then come here and have a talk with sik.

But you gotta check it out.

[Spirited Away]

Many other religions have the same fundamentals as the Bible, but if you believe as Buddhists do and not do anything negative toward a neighbor then that is like saying love thy neighbor as thy self. There is only positive and negative, good and evil, black and white, hot and cold.
There is no middle man. No gray area.

Except that Buddhims existed before the Christian era, and Hinduism existed before Judaism.

You mean that Christianity has many of the same fundamentals as older religions.

[sikdragon]

lol no we are talking about if someone will go to heaven if they believe in some things of other religions. Not timelines.

[Spirited Away]

Ah, okay okay, I was only making a point to clear up misunderstandings. Some kids may read that and think that other religions copied some of those fundamentals.

[gigiopolis]

Like I haven't checked it out? If I didn't check it out I wouldn't have these kinds of feelings.

My dad and my brother are both Christians. My mom and I aren't. You think I haven't checked it out?

At least my dad and brother don't advertise Christianity to my mom and me every 5 minutes, you know. Of course we've thought about it, of course we know a lot about it, we just don't want to. And you think I'm ignorant? There's a fine line between "ignorant" and "independent".

I'm sorry if I'm getting the wrong idea across here, that I'm some sort of Christian hater, but I'm not.

[sikdragon]

you may have given christianity a chance, but i dont think you have given God a chance? try talking to him.

[gigiopolis]

Likewise. I thought that when I said "Christianity" it covered everything related to that religion...so yes, I have given God a chance. I honestly didn't see it the way my father/brother did, and I figured it out long before that's it not right for me.

[sikdragon]

not right for you?? are you just afraid to trust anyone but yourself?

[Spirited Away]

Yea, I'm sure the Jews asked God to help them plenty of times while digging their own graves, and I'm even more positive that plenty of people pray ardently for world peace.

Trusting your own strength and those of your fellow man usually yield more substantial results.

When you ask God for help, you'd have to wait in a long line to get a miracle...

Okay... I'm not picking a fight... I'm just saying that there is NOTHING wrong with trusting yourself.

[gigiopolis]

Well, no, I can trust people, and I'm pretty sure I could trust God (I mean, if He exists and all), but it's just that I don't agree with a lot of the stuff religions in general preach.

And what's wrong with believing and trusting yourself? Sometimes the best judgment comes from the bottom of your heart, and not from someone telling you about it.

[sikdragon]

Where do you think your conscience and those little things from the bottom of your heart come from? Quit putting God in the same boat as organized religion. The church has been corrupt since the beginning of civilization. The spanish inquisition, the salem witch trials, and the KKK who claimed to be working for God.

Yea, I'm sure the Jews asked God to help them plenty of times while digging their own graves, and I'm even more positive that plenty of people pray ardently for world peace.

Trusting your own strength and those of your fellow man usually yield more substantial results.

When you ask God for help, you'd have to wait in a long line to get a miracle...

Okay... I'm not picking a fight... I'm just saying that there is NOTHING wrong with trusting yourself.

If you read the bible you would understand. There cannot be world peace. The world is corrupt and will continue to be that way until the war comes and Jesus bruises the head of lucifer and casts him back to hell.

There is something wrong with trusting yourself. You are imperfect, as am i, the only.... THE ONLY remedy is that which is perfect. GOD.
Humans are by nature evil and as such without God there would be nothing but hate and agony in this world.

[scleex88]

you talk of God on this thread.
then about fighting another kid in another thread.

[sikdragon]

is fighting another kid wrong? how does it contradict my message of God in your opinion?

[scleex88]

fighting another kid is not wrong?
beating and fighting is right?
how does that relate to your view with God?
believers of God turn to violence?
of course it contradicts. think about it
God believers fight to answer problems?
..? i dont get how fighting and God goes together.

[sikdragon]

Read the old testament.

[scleex88]

ok, so the old testament tells you
you can beat up kids when youre angry?
tell me what part of old testament says that, please.

[sikdragon]

tell me when i said to beat up kids when you're angry? Fighting can be fun, it's when everyone is so scared to hit that they try and kill each other is when it becomes a problem.

[scleex88]

fighting can be fun..

[gigiopolis]

Excuse me, it's like you're saying everyone who isn't Christian will go out and kill everyone or something.

I know PLENTY of people who are completely and utterly Atheist but wouldn't even think about killing someone. In fact, if the whole world was run by Atheists I think it would run just the same way.

I'm not Christian, but I have a lot of the same morals that religion preaches. I won't go out and kick someone's ass just because I don't have the guidance of something "perfect."

Christianity isn't an organized religion? Helloooo? Did you even TRY to listen in eighth grade Socials class? There was something called the Crusades. You know. The thing where people ran out of their homes and killed thousands of Muslims just for the sake of going to heaven? False morals, my friend, false morals.

As far as I'm concerned, if everyone on this planet were Christian, there still would be no world peace. Just like I said before, if we were all Atheists there still wouldn't be world peace, but certainly no World War III.

So what if you're not perfect? You learn from your mistakes. I haven't been guided by God and I'm still perfectly moral and humane. But not "perfect." There's nothing wrong with being "imperfect."

I would appreciate it if you would be more respectful of other people's beliefs, and not insult them in that way you do.

[Spirited Away]

Where do you think your conscience and those little things from the bottom of your heart come from? Quit putting God in the same boat as organized religion. The church has been corrupt since the beginning of civilization. The spanish inquisition, the salem witch trials, and the KKK who claimed to be working for God.

And they're not? Who's to say they're not? You? Do you speak to God for them? Or does God tells you others' secrets?

If you read the bible you would understand. There cannot be world peace. The world is corrupt and will continue to be that way until the war comes and Jesus bruises the head of lucifer and casts him back to hell.

On the contrary, I don't need to read the Bible to understand. In fact, I understand quite well. The world is corrupt because individuals want to be happy, and happiness means different things to different people. God can cast Evil back in its place, but will send good people along with it. How kind of Him.

There is something wrong with trusting yourself. You are imperfect, as am i, the only.... THE ONLY remedy is that which is perfect. GOD.
Humans are by nature evil and as such without God there would be nothing but hate and agony in this world

So babies, by nature, are evil. They can kill me with their drools, I suppose.

There is hate and agony with or without God, and the same is said about peace and happiness. This can be easily decided by individuals and how they choose to live life. Imperfections aren't to be fixed, neccessarily. We should be wary of them and try to better ourselves, but this can be done by mere human will. If you think God can provide emotional support, that's fine, but humans can do just fine.

[nas]

Fighting can be fun

Like whoa it's fire and brimstone for you boy. What did the bible preach? Something about turning the other cheek? Why didn't Jesus fight back again? Why did Jesus warn the other deciples not to fight back?

Hush maaan. You're giving religion a bad name like any other hypocrite that doesn't practice what they preach.

[espionage]

I don't give a care what anyone else said above this post that can contradict what I'm going to say;


but Christianity is not about morals. Thank you byebye.

It doesn't mean you go around fighting and hurting.

[raw_material]

On the contrary, I don't need to read the Bible to understand. In fact, I understand quite well. The world is corrupt because individuals want to be happy, and happiness means different things to different people. God can cast Evil back in its place, but will send good people along with it. How kind of Him.

you dont need 2 read the bible 2 understand..and who named you the g for genius...4get church i guess il just ask u kid....yea the world is corrupt...pshh if it wasnt messed up then it wouldt be the same...sin is fun but theres hell in the end...teh devils out 2 make us fall kid....how does god send good pple back to evils place? boy u can be the nicest person in the world that dont mean ur going 2 heaven and ur better with god lol...trust me son u havent lived until you lived with the mindset that heaven lives take time and think on these things...

[Spirited Away]

you dont need 2 read the bible 2 understand..and who named you the g for genius...4get church i guess il just ask u kid....yea the world is corrupt...pshh if it wasnt messed up then it wouldt be the same...sin is fun but theres hell in the end...teh devils out 2 make us fall kid....how does god send good pple back to evils place? boy u can be the nicest person in the world that dont mean ur going 2 heaven and ur better with god lol...trust me son  u havent lived until you lived with the mindset that heaven lives take time and think on these things...

Are you.... calling me....... a kid and your son? . Uh, are you God now or something? Do you now how old I am?

I have no idea what you mean by: "who named you the g for genius". I may be a "kid" *snickers*, but at least I know how to make sense.

So here's my response to what I can understand from what you said:

You asked how does God send good people back to evil's place even though I already answered it... I think, that you need to read carefully before trying to answer to anything I say from now on to make sure you don't embarrass yourself.

My answer to how God sends good people to Hell is that He sends non-believers to Hell even though there are non-believers who holds more good than any Christian. Good people are those that help man kind to improve their morals and life style rather than force others to believe in something they do not want to. And yet, because they do not believe in God, they have to go to Hell. You can call that justice all you want, just like Hitler thought it was okay to condemn other men, I will call it a thing that rewards belief... which is no reward at all.

This is the last time I will repeat the answer to you, my dear. Try to read the words carefully. Ce n'est pas difficile.

[raw_material]

Are you.... calling me....... a kid and your son? . Uh, are you God now or something? Do you now how old I am?

I have no idea what you mean by: "who named you the g for genius". I may be a "kid" *snickers*, but at least I know how to make sense.

So here's my response to what I can understand from what you said:

You asked how does God send good people back to evil's place even though I already answered it... I think, that you need to read carefully before trying to answer to anything I say from now on to make sure you don't embarrass yourself.

My answer to how God sends good people to Hell is that He sends non-believers to Hell even though there are non-believers who holds more good than any Christian. Good people are those that help man kind to improve their morals and life style rather than force others to believe in something they do not want to. And yet, because they do not believe in God, they have to go to Hell. You can call that justice all you want, just like Hitler thought it was okay to condemn other men, I will call it a thing that rewards belief... which is no reward at all.

This is the last time I will repeat the answer to you, my dear. Try to read the words carefully. Ce n'est pas difficile.

lol 1st of all i have to apologize and say sorry for the kid and son sorry i was not calling you that i wasnt trying 2 disrespect you or nothing down here where i live thats how we talk we call each other kid and son ..u kno like slangs so i felt like i was talking to my friends so my bad 4 the miss understanding the last thing i wanna do is catch beef or drama lol

god doesnt send non believers 2 hell they send themselves...the bible says each person in this hole world will hear the gospel atleast once in there lives..its up 2 us 2 believer or not...i mean come on how hard cant it be to give it a try...if we give it a try god will show u the way...again im sorry for the kid and son missunderstanding!

[raw_material]

Ce n'est pas difficile.

y eso que significa? algo de difficil oh que!

[Spirited Away]

lol 1st of all i have to apologize and say sorry for the kid and son sorry i was not calling you that i wasnt trying 2 disrespect you or nothing down here where i live thats how we talk we call each other kid and son ..u kno like slangs so i felt like i was talking to my friends so my bad 4 the miss understanding the last thing i wanna do is catch beef or drama lol

Down here? How down can you be? I'm in Houston TX, you wouldn't be any more in the South than I already am. I wouldn't use those words if I knew the person I'm conversing with is older than I.

god doesnt send non believers 2 hell they send themselves...the bible says each person in this hole world will hear the gospel atleast once in there lives..its up 2 us 2 believer or not...i mean come on how hard cant it be to give it a try...if we give it a try god will show u the way...again im sorry for the kid and son missunderstanding!

Oh yes, people would send themselves to Hell, like they have the power to do that . I would send myself to Heaven, too, if it were a choice and if I believed in it. But for some dog-gone reason, it's not in one's hands to be in Heaven or Hell, it's God's.

How can you say that non-believers send themselves to Hell? I don't get that logic.

y eso que significa? algo de difficil oh que!

J'ai su que vous comprendriez. Tres bon! Et "FYI", je sais un peu Espagnol.