Homosexuals, Variation or Disorder? Options

[Comptine]

Do you think homosexuality is the result of natural variation in humans (like how people have different eye color) or is it the result of a mental disorder?

I'm asking this because I recently watched a show that was centered around this debate.

I think it's a natural variation. I don't know why but I just do. I see different sexual orientations like the different colors in eyes. It just occurs.

Your opinion?

[runforfun529]

I think its a variation, like its in our genes whether we are homosexual or not.

[RandomHero]

^^same here.

[starfaerie06]

I've never given it that name before but: variation.

[Alternativemado]

I think its a variation, like its in our genes whether we are homosexual or not.

WELL thats just nonsense homosexuality isnt in people's GENES! and if it is when i guess i my biology teacher miss the part of tlaking about the gay gene. I belive that people chose to be homosexual. I find it funny when people say that they were born homosexual because that just nonsense you're either born a boy or a girl (there are exceptions) and later on you chose to be homosexual

[Chii]

that's horrible that people would call homosexuality a mental disorder

i think it's a natural variation, people are probably born with it, no one can be like "hey those people are gay, i should be gay too" but it may be influenced too...because i was exposed to pornography at a young age...i'm pretty sure that i'm bisexual, but maybe it's natural, i could've looked away or felt differently

[*salcha*]

WELL thats just nonsense homosexuality isnt in people's GENES! and if it is when i guess i my biology teacher miss the part of tlaking about the gay gene. I belive that people chose to be homosexual. I find it funny when people say that they were born homosexual because that just nonsense you're either born a boy or a girl (there are exceptions) and later on you chose to be homosexual

hey, thats what i thnk too

[*xcaitlinx*]

mental disorder? how twisted can you be? my god... i never thought that anyone could stoop down to that level. Well, now I know. I feel a lot better about myself knowing that I'm not as unintelligent and disgusting as some people are.

[im2tall]

as mentioned before by many, the term "mental disorder" is not really appropriate in this discussion. To term homosexuality as mental disorder identifies the people negatively (like someone that is "sick") and personally my friends that are gay are more cordial and fun than my straight friends.

But I think you're trying to compare nature vs. nurture, and IMHO I believe it's more nurture. Sexual identity is not the same as gender, which is a convenient classification developed by people. Sexual identity is developed over time based on past experiences and I don't think "homosexuals" are any different than "heterosexuals."

[starfaerie06]

as mentioned before by many, the term "mental disorder" is not really appropriate in this discussion.  To term homosexuality as mental disorder identifies the people negatively (like someone that is "sick") and personally my friends that are gay are more cordial and fun than my straight friends. 

But I think you're trying to compare nature vs. nurture, and IMHO I believe it's more nurture.  Sexual identity is not the same as gender, which is a convenient classification developed by people.  Sexual identity is developed over time based on past experiences and I don't think "homosexuals" are any different than "heterosexuals."

That's a good way of putting it.

[sadolakced acid]

those of you who say it's a choice, please support it.

sucessive males have a higher chance of being gay.

also, if a male is gay, there is higher probablility that his mother's brother is also gay.

even if they've never met.

do you honestly belive peopl just wake up one day and decide to be gay?

"oh shoot it's monday i hate monday hmm i guess from now on i'll decide to like guys and not girls even tho i'm a guy and that's why for the next 10 years i'll hide it and not tell everone and be embarassed about it, and that's why i choose this monday is the day to become gay."

is that what you honestly think happens?

[Comptine]

^^ I agree

Although it's your opinion, and you have every right to think that, it's a pretty arrogant opinion.

A majority of homosexuals come from religious backgrounds that condemn homosexuality. Why would they ever chose something that goes against something they grew up with? You have no idea of the torment gay people go through just to undo their "choice". They go to "support" groups that force them to watch graphic and repulsive videos. Then they give them electrical shocks.

Maybe I didn't make the topic clearer.

No, I'm not trying to but homosexuals in a negative way. But that is what the debate is about and I'm not going to sugarcoat it. Homosexuality was and still is believed by some scientists as a mental disorder (or psyhcological disorder...) Before 1973, homosexuality was in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

What I'm asking you is do you think that homosexuality is a natural part of human evolution or is there a scientific (medical) reasoning behind it? As in natural variation or is there something different in their minds?

[anoniez]

IMHO, I don't believe homosexuality was a part of natural human evolution- since the point of evolution and natural selection is to further your genes, being homosexual would essentially lead to a dead end. Homosexuality would never be a successful way of furthering your genes since it's not exactly a way to have children. So I'm leaning more towards there being scientific reasoning behind it. Not trying to diss gays or anything like that btw, it's just that it seems like a logical conclusion.

[sadolakced acid]

IMHO, I don't believe homosexuality was a part of natural human evolution- since the point of evolution and natural selection is to further your genes, being homosexual would essentially lead to a dead end. Homosexuality would never be a successful way of furthering your genes since it's not exactly a way to have children. So I'm leaning more towards there being scientific reasoning behind it. Not trying to diss gays or anything like that btw, it's just that it seems like a logical conclusion.

that is, unless the gene for homosexuality is carried on the X chromosome, and provides such an advantage to the females that it outweights the problems of homosexuality.

Homosexuality may very well be a side effect of a gene that, say, greatly increases the chances that a baby will survive.

[qoddesscheeks]

i think it`s a mental disorder, because there r cases of people who were hurt severely by the opposite sex turning into homosexuals.

[sadolakced acid]

and... you have proof of these cases?

Those cases are probably a fluke. they are either pretending, or they were hiding it.

unless you can prove it...

[qoddesscheeks]

hm i don`t think i made myself clear. i meant that there r cases of people who were hurt by an opposite sex so they turned into homosexual because they think people of their own gender would understand them better&not hurt them as much.

i don`t have any actual prooves, but i did read factual stories on them.

[sadolakced acid]

a person can choose to pretend to be homosexual.

that's my point.

[actionrobot_go]

definetly variation in my opinion, one cannot choose to be homosexual. it's something that you have no control of, you're born with it.

[sporadic]

Variation. Although I do think there are some cases in which you can be "turned" gay.

[sweetxsimplicity]

Hmm..well I think sometimes it might be mental..but..I'm not sure about all this 'sexual' and 'bi' and 'gay' stuff.

[tofuburger]

i doubt homosexuality is in your genes...that's just funny...cuz your parents had to be straight to have you right??...unless ..it was like a sperm donation thing...and i wouldn't really call it a "disorder".....i don't know...it's just a preferance...and also if it was in your genes...like eye color and such...would you just pop out and be born gay???...gay toddlers... oy...

[sadolakced acid]

i doubt homosexuality is in your genes...that's just funny...cuz your parents had to be straight to have you right??...unless ..it was like a sperm donation thing...and i wouldn't really call it a "disorder".....i don't know...it's just a preferance...and also if it was in your genes...like eye color and such...would you just pop out and be born gay???...gay toddlers... oy...

you didn't you read the other posts?

homosexuality can survive genetically if it's on the X chromosome and benifits females so much that it helps.

[sammi rules you]

um, homosexuality isn't genetically passed down, no. but it's in hormones. that's why most people realize if they're gay during puberty..your homones affect it.

people who say it's a choice piss me off. seriously, who would WANT to be gay with all the shit people put them through?

people can experiment, but in the end, you are what you are and you can't change it.

[Mini]

I don't think anyone choose to be gay in this closed-minded society. I don't even wish homosexuality on anyone because it is so discriminated against.

I seriously doubt people just choose to be gay because most families like mine are very much AGAINST homosexuality and they believe whoever is homosexual should literally die and burn in Hell.

There is likely more homosexuals out there, but they don't reveal it. Like the gay senator who was married and had children, he couldn't keep that lie of being straight. Seriously who knows how many gays pretend to be straight because it goes against "human nature" and even God.

I don't think the senator chose to be gay and experiment and then became straight. It just doesn't work like that. It's just saying straight people suddenly chooses to be gay.

There isn't enough proof for it to be genetic either.

Just don't discriminate against homosexuals and the world will be a better place.