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Mr. Slowjamz
post Jan 7 2005, 03:16 PM
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what do you think it says....if so obvious.
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North Korea Issues Wartime Guidelines

By SANG-HUN CHOE

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea has ordered its citizens to be ready for a protracted war against the United States, issuing guidelines on evacuating to underground bunkers with weapons, food and portraits of leader Kim Jong Il.

The 33-page ''Detailed Wartime Guidelines,'' published in South Korea's Kyunghyang newspaper on Wednesday and verified by Seoul, was issued April 7, 2004, at a time when the communist regime was claiming it was Washington's next target following the Iraq war.

The manual - the first such North Korean document made public in the outside world - was signed by Kim Jong Il in his capacity as chairman of the Central Military Committee of the ruling Workers' Party. That ended speculation over whether Kim has assumed the top military post following the 1994 death of his father, President Kim Il Sung.

Analysts said the guidelines reflected Pyongyang's fear over a possible U.S. military strike amid stalled talks on its nuclear weapons programs. They said the guidelines were also meant to whip up a sense of crisis among its 22 million people, reportedly growing discontent amid economic hardship.

''The United States has cooked up suspicion over our nuclear programs and is escalating an offensive of international pressure to strangle and destroy our republic,'' the booklet said. ''If this tactic doesn't work, it plots to use this (nuclear) problem as an excuse for armed invasion.''

Kyunghyang did not clarify where it acquired the document classified as ''top secret.''

Seoul's National Intelligence Service said in a one-sentence statement: ''We believe the document reflects North Korea's wartime preparations.''

The manual urged the military to build restaurants, wells, restrooms and air purifiers in underground bunkers, which government offices and military units will move into if war breaks out.

When North Koreans evacuate to underground facilities, they should make sure that they take the portraits, plaster busts and bronze statues of Kim and his parents so that they can ''protect'' them in a special room, the guidelines say.

The Kim family has ruled North Korea for more than a half century, creating a powerful personality cult. Portraits of Kim and his father hang side-by-side on the walls of every house.

Since the Korean War ended in 1953, North Korea has built a 1.1 million-member military, the world's fifth largest, although most of its weapons are outdated. It already keeps vital military facilities in an estimated 10,000 underground tunnels and bunkers, South Korean officials say.

The Pyongyang subway is hundreds of yards below the surface to double as an air raid shelter, and the North's military has dug ''invasion tunnels'' across the border with the South.

North Korea is locked in a dispute with Washington and its allies over its nuclear weapons programs.

Pyongyang escalated its threats after the United States invaded Iraq, which President Bush termed as an ''axis of evil,'' together with Iran and North Korea. North Korean villages are festooned with slogans exhorting the people to prepare for a war with ''our sworn enemy, the U.S. imperialists.''

''The North has real fear that it may become the next Iraq under the Bush administration,'' said Kim Tae-woo, a senior fellow at Seoul's Korea Institute for Defense Analyses. ''The guidelines also appear aimed at tightening domestic control on the people as the economic difficulties erode the regime's grip on power.''

Kim said Washington is building more powerful missiles that could destroy underground military targets in countries like North Korea.

On Tuesday, North Korea accused the United States of planning to deploy those missiles in South Korea for a ''preemptive attack'' on the North. Washington says it wants to end the nuclear dispute peacefully.



I sure as hell hope no nuclear bombs will be used, because Kim Jong seems like the type of guy to carelessly use 'em.

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post Jan 7 2005, 03:49 PM
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Damn. Another war?
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 04:02 PM
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oh no :(
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 05:14 PM
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Meh, I hope that won't happen. But if it were really true...how come we haven't heard about it on the news or anything?
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 05:17 PM
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life is too overrated. my parents told me that the president of taiwan is going to declare a war against china.
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 05:20 PM
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life is too overrated. my parents told me that the president of taiwan is going to declare a war against china.
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Really? I've heard the complete opposite. ( china is going to declare way against taiwan.) Meh, it sucks. My cousin lives in taiwan and he's completely convinced that China's going to attack them.
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 05:59 PM
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I didn't RTA, just skimmed, so forgive me if I say something already mentioned.

we're ready for war.

http://globalsecurity.org/military/ops/korea-orbat.htm

That's our order of battle.

Japan will probably also side with us.

But this could be really bad, we don't know how many nukes they have, and I'm pretty sure Jong-Il will use them. Scary stuff.

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Really? I've heard the complete opposite. ( china is going to declare way against taiwan.) Meh, it sucks. My cousin lives in taiwan and he's completely convinced that China's going to attack them.


Yeah, it's really tense over there. China banned a videogame just because it showed that Taiwan was a seperate country. I've seen some arguments come from the Chinese side, and man, are they fed some crazy propoganda.
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 06:23 PM
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Yeah, it's really tense over there. China banned a videogame just because it showed that Taiwan was a seperate country. I've seen some arguments come from the Chinese side, and man, are they fed some crazy propoganda.

Ah, yeah, I know. Did you watch the olympics? If you did, did you notice how taiwan was called Chinese Taipei or something? I bet the people living in taiwan were pissed off.

I'm actually really worried about taiwan. China has so many more soldiers than taiwan, at least i think so. Meh, I hope a war doesn't start.
 
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ok......Ummmm That suxs...Sorry >.< I really dont know what to say...
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 06:31 PM
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Ah, yeah, I know. Did you watch the olympics? If you did, did you notice how taiwan was called Chinese Taipei or something? I bet the people living in taiwan were pissed off.

I'm actually really worried about taiwan. China has so many more soldiers than taiwan, at least i think so. Meh, I hope a war doesn't start.
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Yeah, the Chinese Taipei thing really confused me.

I'm worried about Taiwan too. China has the largest army in the world, Taiwan's population is really small, and not everyone in Taiwan supports independence from China.

If China were to invade Taiwan, that would be really scary. Japan would freak out and probably start developing nuclear weapons. We're already fighting a war, so we might be stretching ourselves too thin.
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 07:46 PM
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Oh no...world war 3 is gonna start... mellow.gif blink.gif
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 08:00 PM
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The Kim family has ruled North Korea for more than a half century, creating a powerful personality cult. Portraits of Kim and his father hang side-by-side on the walls of every house.

Okay, that's just WAY.. out-there. This just goes to show just how insane (IMO) Kim Jung Il is. He wants everyone to worship the ground he walks in. In a way, he seems like Hilter, North Korean style. I heard that Kim Jung Il once made all the North Koreans take off all their clothes and stand naked ourside or something... or rather, that's what a friend of mines told me.
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Since the Korean War ended in 1953, North Korea has built a 1.1 million-member military, the world's fifth largest, although most of its weapons are outdated. It already keeps vital military facilities in an estimated 10,000 underground tunnels and bunkers, South Korean officials say.

It's funny that Kim Jung Il would have such a huge military with many facilities to aid, when he can't even HELP the Korth Korean economy. He's so selfish that he doesn't realize how terrible life must be like for lower class N. Koreans. I personally don't know that much about North Korea, but I heard that it was like a third world country, where many live in poverty. Is that true?
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The Pyongyang subway is hundreds of yards below the surface to double as an air raid shelter, and the North's military has dug ''invasion tunnels'' across the border with the South.

WAIT.. WHY should North Korea get to dig tunnels into South Korea? That's not fair.. North Korean officials as well as the manual and Kim Jung Il accuse the U.S. of going to attack N. Korea, yet North Korea gets to have an advantage? That's certainly not fair. But then again, I don't expect Kim Jung Il to be fair in anything.
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Pyongyang escalated its threats after the United States invaded Iraq, which President Bush termed as an ''axis of evil,'' together with Iran and North Korea. North Korean villages are festooned with slogans exhorting the people to prepare for a war with ''our sworn enemy, the U.S. imperialists.''

yawn.gif Bleh, more false accusations and propoganda.
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''The guidelines also appear aimed at tightening domestic control on the people as the economic difficulties erode the regime's grip on power.''

"...as the economic difficulties erode the regime's grip on power." Well MAYBE if Kim Jung Il and his government actually tried to help the people instead of being a power-hungry dictator, he'd actually HELP the economy.
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Kim said Washington is building more powerful missiles that could destroy underground military targets in countries like North Korea.

Well.. IS Washington building them? IMO, regardless of whether the U.S. is building more powerful missiles or not, Kim's just trying to use as many excuses as possible to make the U.S. look bad and make us back down. First of all, Mr. Kim Jung Il, you have some ADVANTAGE by building miles of tunnels extending past the 38th parallel and into the south, then why should you whine and complain about us? blink.gif What about South Korea? It's not fair that they don't have as big a military... and I haven't heard of them building any tunnels to infiltrate N. Korea.

That's all I have to say about this.
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 08:42 PM
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Yeah, the Chinese Taipei thing really confused me.

I'm worried about Taiwan too. China has the largest army in the world, Taiwan's population is really small, and not everyone in Taiwan supports independence from China.

If China were to invade Taiwan, that would be really scary. Japan would freak out and probably start developing nuclear weapons. We're already fighting a war, so we might be stretching ourselves too thin.

Jeez. this sucks.
 
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hmm... i really dont know what to say about this.

whats the weather like in NK? I should get ready now... cry.gif
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 09:17 PM
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but the question is "are they going to use it"?
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 10:37 PM
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oh no.. when was that article written? that sounds pretty scary.
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 10:39 PM
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oh.....yet another war happening. sadness and sobs
 
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post Jan 7 2005, 10:41 PM
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Does N. Korea have Nukes? Only about 10 countries have nukes and almost none of them are messed with because they are scared of being blown off the planet, especially the U.s.A with such a powerful army with the atom bombs and such. I didnt know N. Korea had such bombs.... dang im scared now
 
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oh f**k....
 
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post Jan 8 2005, 04:08 AM
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dam, whats wrong with the county ? i think Korea is a bit careless and going way to far ....
 
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post Jan 9 2005, 04:14 PM
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you'd think after the war of Iraq and terrorism and the attack on New york would make this world a little more peaceful...but the other one's not all done with the troops still there and now there's some countries declaring war on another.
 
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post Jan 9 2005, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(jooleeah @ Jan 7 2005, 5:20 PM)
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Really? I've heard the complete opposite. ( china is going to declare way against taiwan.) Meh, it sucks. My cousin lives in taiwan and he's completely convinced that China's going to attack them.
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wars =[

so sad. and i hate them so much, mostly because i think they can be resolved in other ways then people killing innocent people.
 
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QUOTE(Funky Buddha @ Jan 7 2005, 10:41 PM)
Does N. Korea have Nukes? Only about 10 countries have nukes and almost none of them are messed with because they are scared of being blown off the planet, especially the U.s.A with such a powerful army with the atom bombs and such. I didnt know N. Korea had such bombs.... dang im scared now
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We think North Korea has nukes.

Don't forget, China will probably protect North Korea too.
 
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post Jan 9 2005, 05:24 PM
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I HATE NORTH KOREANS!!


i wish they freaking stop the freaking war. they think it's fun to take over the world! they are one selfish countries i have to say. they killed my great great grandfather during the korean war T_______T
 

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