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![]() jellyfishing, jellyfishing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,174 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,185 ![]() |
yeeeah i really need some more RAM and I heard you needed like a special slot thing if you want to buy some RAM and how exactly does this work!?
(The website where it shows info/products, etc for my computer was no help and i currently have lost my computer manual. Do i really need it? Someone said i should, but i'm not sure ![]() |
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it depends on what u need it for. if its not really urgent or important, then u really suldnt need to.
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There are basically 2 kinds of chipsets for workstation computer, sdram & ddrram.
sdram is basicly old chipsets, or .. the one that Apple still uses. ddrram is the latest kind of chipsets. if you are upgrading ram you must buy memory that is compatible with your chipset on the motherboard. or else, it'll be useless. |
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![]() omw to be an offical member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 345 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 48,817 ![]() |
yeah i would go with sddram mb wise is best to go 512 in a just in case matter but a special slot? not really all pcs come with 2-4 slots of ram slots near your processor :)
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QUOTE(burnoveride @ Jan 7 2005, 4:29 AM) yeah i would go with sddram mb wise is best to go 512 in a just in case matter but a special slot? not really all pcs come with 2-4 slots of ram slots near your processor :) it'll depend on your motherboard/processor's FSB. find out what that is, so that you buy the right speed ram. |
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![]() The red or the blue ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 294 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,976 ![]() |
What kind of processor do you have? Using information like that, you can determine what speed of ram is suitable for your computer. I'd guess that your computer probably uses either pc2100 or pc2700 ddrram, just as an arbitrary value. If your compuer already has faster ram and you install slower ram then it will run at the slower speed which is something you don't want. Also you might want to clear out some of the clutter on your system to improve performance that way you can see whether you really need the upgrade or not. If it's slow boot speed that you have then you can do this:
Start->Run->type in "msconfig" without the quotations->Then click startup and uncheck whatever you don't want there. |
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![]() jellyfishing, jellyfishing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,174 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,185 ![]() |
i have an Intel® Pentium® 2.66GHz processor. no, my RAM is, well i'm guessing "average" among people who don't really add memory, i have about 256MB, not *great* so i think getting more will help?
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gwawgaagwga! lol anyways 256 is not bad. its good i think. never had a computer lower than 512mb.
furbur shmickleshizaam! |
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I'm Clean! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 83 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 45,517 ![]() |
Find a ram with FSB at or higher than your CPU FSB. You should probably get DDR too. 512 should be fine, though if you have some extra cash to blow get 1gb. PC3200 at 400MHz is the general standard.
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QUOTE(vanish @ Jan 9 2005, 8:35 PM) Find a ram with FSB at or higher than your CPU FSB. You should probably get DDR too. 512 should be fine, though if you have some extra cash to blow get 1gb. PC3200 at 400MHz is the general standard. Why do you need a gig of ram?! Your computer cant tell the difference between 512 and one gig. The maximum difference between the two is a matter of a second or 2. If they could ever figure out how to have a computer use more than a GH of its processor at a time it might matter but now. |
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![]() The red or the blue ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 294 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,976 ![]() |
QUOTE(comeupon @ Jan 9 2005, 8:13 PM) Why do you need a gig of ram?! Your computer cant tell the difference between 512 and one gig. The maximum difference between the two is a matter of a second or 2. If they could ever figure out how to have a computer use more than a GH of its processor at a time it might matter but now. You've obviously never played any good games or done any video editing have you? Why do you think there are servers that support up to 16GB of ram, yea, that's along with quad processors. If we could never use beyond 1ghz of our processor why do you think companies would even be wasting money on say a 3.8ghz P4 or the AMD fx-55? |
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QUOTE(mechwarrior1989 @ Jan 10 2005, 7:59 PM) You've obviously never played any good games or done any video editing have you? Why do you think there are servers that support up to 16GB of ram, yea, that's along with quad processors. If we could never use beyond 1ghz of our processor why do you think companies would even be wasting money on say a 3.8ghz P4 or the AMD fx-55? My dad is a computer programmer for UL, UnderWriters labs, the biggets product tester in the US. Hes only seen 5 PCs in the 8 years hes been working there ever reach more than 2 GHz during its testing. The reason companies put 3.8 GHz processors so they can take more money from the consumer. Normal wiring in a computer cant transfer more than 800 MB at a time, lets alone 3 GHz. Computer companies are resorting to now having to seperate computers within one so they can split the processors to allow for greater use of it. |
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![]() The red or the blue ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 294 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,976 ![]() |
QUOTE(comeupon @ Jan 11 2005, 3:20 PM) My dad is a computer programmer for UL, UnderWriters labs, the biggets product tester in the US. Hes only seen 5 PCs in the 8 years hes been working there ever reach more than 2 GHz during its testing. The reason companies put 3.8 GHz processors so they can take more money from the consumer. Normal wiring in a computer cant transfer more than 800 MB at a time, lets alone 3 GHz. Computer companies are resorting to now having to seperate computers within one so they can split the processors to allow for greater use of it. Your dad is a programmer, yet you don't know the difference between 3ghz and 800MB. Here's what you said in plan speak: Normal wiring in a computer can't transfer more than 800megabytes at a time, let alone 3 GIGAHERTZ, notice a difference? Obviously not since you can't tell the difference between MB and ghz. Here's a quick run down on what's what, hertz, is the measure ment of how many calculations can be done a second, as such, 3 ghz denotes the ability to run 3 billion caculations a second, megabytes? That denotes the amount of space. So basically you aren't just comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing an apple to a monkey, that's what you've managed to do, and make a fool of yourself while doing so. And your dad is obviously not using very CPU intensive programs. Just because he tests programs, it doesn't mean that he's used any CPU intensive programs. Turbotax uses a lot less CPU than say, Farcry. As I have said, you obviously have never used any programs that are CPU intensive. See, graphics rendering, highly system intensive games, and video compression. The splitting of computers is called clustering if you don't know. I would definatly like to see you try and survive with a 1ghz computer for the next 3 years, then try and install any of what might be considered the latest and greatest games in 3 years, no doubt they'll be running really slow, that's assuming that the minium system requirements state that a 1ghz CPU is enough. Have you looked at the Sims 2 lately? Minium system requirements for that is 2ghz if you don't have a TL capable graphics card. Yea, I'm definatly sure they'd require that as the minimum if it only utalized 1ghz. That's great too, changing your story from 1ghz to 2ghz. First you say rarely to programs reach 1ghz, then you say 5 PC's ever reach 2ghz? What happened to the 1ghz mark? Did you ask your dad and get totally shot down? Oh yea and regarding your comment about RAM. Do you even know why computers need ram? Let's just say multitasking benifits greatly from an increase in RAM. Let's see, I have 545mb of my 1gb of ram free, assuming we were to keep everything the same and remove 512mb of ram, how much ram would I be left with, by goly! I'd have 32mb of ram left! That's sure enough to do much. I could probably manage to open adobe photoshop! Then maybe one image! I'm sure that would be just swell! Wait no, you're right. Having more CPU speed doesn't help at all. CPU manufactures are merely raising the speed to make our money. They are only pouring money into R&D to make it seem like they're coming up with new stuff, but really, they invented the 90nm creation process years ago and are just unvailing it now. We've been oblivious to it the whole time. The review and benchmarking sites are all pawns to these large corporations to brainwash us and turn us into money spending zombies. All the games that come out now, can be played on old old computers, but Intel and AMD are paying them to raise their minimum system requirements so they can sell "faster" chips. Forget better graphics, or rendering or more realistic physics which require more calculations, this stuff can run on our 233mhz PII except the CPU manufactuerer's don't want us to know that. It's a giant conspiracy! My 233mhz CPU could definatly handle the easy tasks of decoding HDTV since that's child's play. They merely recommend 2ghz processors for the heck of it. Yes, I totally agree with you now, you have another convert to your join you and fellow activist to stop this conspiracy. Oh yea, in case you didn't notice, I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't normally put something like this here, but you know, just in case you didn't know. |
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Apache Server 2.0.52 with like 5 billion connections. That must take up at least 1.8ghz of CPU Clock, let's not get into memory and all the CAS's.
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