vectoring? Options

[Tinkerballa]

does anyone know a easy way to vector? besides going to effects/noise/Edge Preserving smooth because that way makes the vector look kind of weird and its all smudy looking... i saw the other tutorial but its really confusing lol is there any easy way for us "that don't understand anything" people lol :)

[shortvi3tlaydee]

have you tried the vectoring tutorials in the tutorial section?

advanced one
fake one

[Tinkerballa]

oooooooo i was looking for those :) but i found one that does it a really quick way :) here is what i made its a picture of gwen stafani :) erm its not that good i know but i'm still learning.

[sherryvu]

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[sweetxsimplicity]

oooooooo i was looking for those :) but i found one that does it a really quick way :) here is what i made its a picture of gwen stafani :)  erm its not that good i know but i'm still learning.

http://www.freewebs.com/pixiebell143/vector.png

Okay, keep this in your head:
THAT IS NOT VECTORING, THAT IS ONLY FAKE VECTORING.

[Teesa]

Okay, keep this in your head:
THAT IS NOT VECTORING, THAT IS ONLY FAKE VECTORING.

yup..but it's cool that you're learning, but you should learn the right way, by actually using illustrator.

[sweetxsimplicity]

yup..but it's cool that you're learning, but you should learn the right way, by actually using illustrator.

Or you can use Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, but that would be considered vexeling.

[largosama]

Or you can use Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, but that would be considered vexeling.

How different are those two things?

[madpimp]

Essay title:
The difference between Vector and "vexeling"
aka pixel based systems.
They are actually quite different.

Photoshop and PSP generally have pixel-based systems for their image creation/editing methods.

This means that when you edit the image, you're basically putting dots on top/below or changing the dots that comprise whatever picture you're creating.

What this leads to is that if you change the size of the image [ particularly a small image into a big image ] it only has those dot informations in it.

That is why a circle from a jpg will look jaggedy when you make it really big. The dots are translated to big squares.

Jpgs, gifs, bmps, all use pixels.


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On the other hand,

Adobe Illustrator , Flash, etc. have vector-based systems for their image-creation/editing methods.

In a vector based system, everything that is drawn is considered an object. For example, curved lines are not simply many pixels comprised together to create a curved line, but an object with two points that are connected together pointing at certain degrees that are outlined.

Because the vector based system involves coordinates, points, etc. it allows you to change size with a very minimal amount of change in the quality.

ie. an elipse in the shape of an egg has the same points around the edge regardless of what size it is vs. an elipse in the shape of an egg drawn with 10 pixels will look like 10 giant squares at a larger size.

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Sorry if that was confusing. :)

[sweetxsimplicity]

How different are those two things?

Vexeling and vectoring?
Or PSP and PS?

[xTINAA]

like i said when you posted that fake vector of gwen stefani in the pictures forum, please don't claim it as a vector. like sweetxsimplicity said:

Okay, keep this in your head:
THAT IS NOT VECTORING, THAT IS ONLY FAKE VECTORING.

[pandamonium]

to vector you have to use the pen tool. and use it like you do in drawing but you gotta do the same color over the top of the picture. like if you have a blue eye then make the blue eye circle and then the layer on top of that to do the little detailed stuff..

vectorizing is a very hard job like it takes time cause you gotta get the right colors but vectoring is so beautiful after its done.

[*tweeak*]

Essay title:
The difference between Vector and "vexeling"
aka pixel based systems.
They are actually quite different.

Photoshop and PSP generally have pixel-based systems for their image creation/editing methods.

This means that when you edit the image, you're basically putting dots on top/below or changing the dots that comprise whatever picture you're creating.

What this leads to is that if you change the size of the image [ particularly a small image into a big image ] it only has those dot informations in it.

That is why a circle from a jpg will look jaggedy when you make it really big.  The dots are translated to big squares.

Jpgs, gifs, bmps, all use pixels.
------------

On the other hand,

Adobe Illustrator , Flash, etc. have vector-based systems for their image-creation/editing methods.

In a vector based system, everything that is drawn is considered an object.  For example, curved lines are not simply many pixels comprised together to create a curved line, but an object with two points that are connected together pointing at certain degrees that are outlined.

Because the vector based system involves coordinates, points, etc.  it allows you to change size with a very minimal amount of change in the quality.

ie. an elipse in the shape of an egg has the same points around the edge regardless of what size it is  vs. an elipse in the shape of an egg drawn with 10 pixels will look like 10 giant squares at a larger size.

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Sorry if that was confusing. :)

thats actually the best definition ive seen. everyone else just emphasizes that one is pixel bases and the other vector

its not learning if all you do is fake it

[*mona lisa*]

Essay title:
The difference between Vector and "vexeling"
aka pixel based systems.
They are actually quite different.

Photoshop and PSP generally have pixel-based systems for their image creation/editing methods.

This means that when you edit the image, you're basically putting dots on top/below or changing the dots that comprise whatever picture you're creating.

What this leads to is that if you change the size of the image [ particularly a small image into a big image ] it only has those dot informations in it.

That is why a circle from a jpg will look jaggedy when you make it really big.  The dots are translated to big squares.

Jpgs, gifs, bmps, all use pixels.
------------

On the other hand,

Adobe Illustrator , Flash, etc. have vector-based systems for their image-creation/editing methods.

In a vector based system, everything that is drawn is considered an object.  For example, curved lines are not simply many pixels comprised together to create a curved line, but an object with two points that are connected together pointing at certain degrees that are outlined.

Because the vector based system involves coordinates, points, etc.  it allows you to change size with a very minimal amount of change in the quality.

ie. an elipse in the shape of an egg has the same points around the edge regardless of what size it is  vs. an elipse in the shape of an egg drawn with 10 pixels will look like 10 giant squares at a larger size.

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Sorry if that was confusing. :)

well said.

[*[2]Nekked*]

ive given basically that same definition about 6 different times on cb... so dont say

"everyone else just emphasizes that one is pixel bases and the other vector"

[madpimp]

[2]nekkid -- It's ok, don't get yer panties in a bunch. Old posts tend to get lost in the dust and confusion of the attic called previous pages.

[madpimp]

Incidentally, thank you to tweeak and gotnoheart for your kind words.

[*tweeak*]

ive given basically that same definition about 6 different times on cb... so dont say

"everyone else just emphasizes that one is pixel bases and the other vector"

whenever ive read yours, they were typically abriged in frustration at people not reading them and understaning already, but admittedly, i havent read any recently. im sure you have said that, just not the ones ive read

[*[2]Nekked*]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=43005&hl=

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=43206&hl=

[madpimp]

Probably they liked mine because I used more layman's terms.

[Heathasm]

there is no easy way to vector
and if i understood right...were you actually asking for an easy way to cheat "vector"?!?
i was totally clueless at first too but i started off doing vexels in ps..they looked like crap at first, then they got better, then i moved onto illustrator....you should attempt vexeling

[sweetxsimplicity]

Incidentally, thank you to tweeak and gotnoheart for your kind words.

Please do not double post!

[*tweeak*]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=43005&hl=

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...topic=43206&hl=

oh. i concede.

[jacksparrowsgirl...]

[2]nekkid -- It's ok, don't get yer panties in a bunch. Old posts tend to get lost in the dust and confusion of the attic called previous pages.

i agree.
2nekked, u need to learn how to calm down, dont get all offensive about stuff...who cares if 10,000 people gave the same definition....it DOESNT MATTER. What i've noticed in the boards is that you, and not only you, but other people as well on the boards, get so worked up about the pettiest little things and then i noticed one time you got so mad that you closed your own topic....thats just juvenile.
Sorry i just had to say something, i was sick and tired of reading posts that get all defensive about themselves and end up creating arguments or problems or whatever.....
sheesh
btw, that was a well stated definition given above, MADPIMP, thanks.

[DaTru KataLYST]

That was a well said definition, madpimp. I applaud.

::concert clap: