sheepskin..., animal cruelty?! Options

[*xcaitlinx*]

how come so many people consider shaving sheeps for their wool animal cruelty? THEY DON`T KILL THE ANIMALS! anyway, they shave the skin in the summer. The sheep prolly like it better because they dont have to have all that fur on their back in the heat. Explain to me how this is animal cruelty, because I really want to know.

[*mona lisa*]

i agree/ its not torturing them at all. its just taking their fur off, which doesn't hurt. their skin isn't being cut off. so, i don't get it.

[Chii]

there's a difference, sheepskin is when they kill the sheep, sheep wool (which is what you're talking about) is what they shave off...i'm against real fur coats, boots, blankets, and etc


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eww i just read the post under mine, i guess either way is't animal cruelty...that's disgusting

[ghjgfkgfk]

SOMEONE CALL PETA!

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http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=72

Wool.
From sheep. Used in clothing. Ram lambs and old "wool" sheep are slaughtered for their meat. Sheep are transported without food or water, in extreme heat and cold. Legs are broken, eyes injured, etc. Sheep are bred to be unnaturally woolly, also unnaturally wrinkly, which causes them to get insect infestations around the tail areas. The farmer's solution to this is the painful cutting away of the flesh around the tail (called "mulesing"). "Inferior" sheep are killed. When shearing the sheep, they are pinned down violently and sheared roughly. Their skin is cut up. Every year, hundreds of thousands of shorn sheep die from exposure to cold. Natural predators of sheep (wolves, coyotes, eagles, etc.) are poisoned, trapped, and shot. In the U.S., overgrazing of cattle and sheep is turning more than 150 million acres of land to desert. "Natural" wool production uses enormous amounts of resources and energy (to breed, raise, feed, shear, transport, slaughter, etc., the sheep). Derivatives: Lanolin, Wool Wax, Wool Fat. Alternatives: cotton, cotton flannel, synthetic fibers, ramie, etc.

lol (yes, i'm actually laughing)/

[Nicolatofu]

^ what she said...sheep skin is animal cruelty...they're cutting the sheep's ksin out for the love of god! but i think the sheep appreciate it that the people shave them. who wants to carry around all that wool in the summer? i don't wear any kind of animal though...

[xsweetxcandyx]

shaving = ok..doesn't hard
skinning.. = *roar* that s just not right!

[Gypsy Eyes]

shaving = ok..doesn't hard

actually most sheep farmers do hurt the sheep when they shear them, they cut the skin, not caring. Just wanting the wool for a profit. I read an article somewhere, I'll try to find it

[imafreakinazn]

skinning is bad.
live skinning is WORSE.
shaving is.....okay. i guess.

[Just_Dream]

It's sad to know.. that my sister is wearing slaughtered sheep on her feet... her UGGS. >_<"

[hi-C]

It's sad to know.. that my sister is wearing slaughtered sheep on her feet... her UGGS. >_<"

Ugh @ Uggs. They're overpriced anyway.

[Chii]

Ugh @ Uggs.  They're overpriced anyway.

uggs are ugly

[*xcaitlinx*]

actually most sheep farmers do hurt the sheep when they shear them, they cut the skin, not caring. Just wanting the wool for a profit. I read an article somewhere, I'll try to find it

hmmm...easy for you to say what farmers do to their sheep, even though you're not one.

[jaeman]

Sheep wool shouldn't be considered animal cruelty because they shave their coats off but mindless farmers hurt their sheep in the process, so peta declared it animal cruelty.
Shep skin is animal cruelty because you kill the sheep for their skin, simple as that.

[Chaos13]

um...........i like expensive things. dont we all?

[cmgchica717]

Poor sheep! Baaaa!

Lamb meat is really really good. Oh..I shouldnt have said that huh?

I kid I kid

[XxXAnimeLuvahXxX]

Yeah.. that's not really animal cruelty, it's more like helping them cool off in the summer.

[xj_liana_tx]

it depends on the sheep

[jennyjenny]

Don't some poeple eat sheep body parts?

[ghjgfkgfk]

Sheep wool shouldn't be considered animal cruelty because they shave their coats off but mindless farmers hurt their sheep in the process, so peta declared it animal cruelty.
Shep skin is animal cruelty because you kill the sheep for their skin, simple as that.

peta declares everything animal cruelty.

[Gypsy Eyes]

hmmm...easy for you to say what farmers do to their sheep, even though you're not one.

see thats kind of funny, my uncle was one until he died. I had to watch him do that. So keep your mouth shut, cause you are starting to aggrivate me

[imm]

hmmm...easy for you to say what farmers do to their sheep, even though you're not one.

Didn't you ask for this to be explained to you?

Anyway, sheep skinning is animal cruelty, the farmers kill the sheep. Sheep shearing is also animal cruelty because many farmers injure or hurt the sheep because they are very rough with the animals and only want a profit.

[BEBEx_iNFAM0USS]

hmmm...easy for you to say what farmers do to their sheep, even though you're not one.

i guess it depends on the farmer

[sadolakced acid]

Alternatives: cotton, cotton flannel, synthetic fibers, ramie, etc.

hmmm... someone should tell PETA...

cotton is grown in fields, which evict local wildlife.

if you buy cotton you're supporting the habitat destruction of millions of squirells!

boycott all plant fiber clothes!! and all animal derivered clothes.

sythetic fibers are tested on animals to make sure they don't do anything strange.

boycott those too!!!

[*wind&fire*]

sheep are made to be used by humans... if they werent used then thed die because of all their wool...

[mechwarrior1989]

hmmm...  someone should tell PETA...

cotton is grown in fields, which evict local wildlife.

if you buy cotton you're supporting the habitat destruction of millions of squirells! 

boycott all plant fiber clothes!!  and all animal derivered clothes. 

sythetic fibers are tested on animals to make sure they don't do anything strange. 

boycott those too!!!

Have you been reading Maddox?

But sheep skin isn't much worse that leather and all that. I use lots of leather products so you can probably see where I'm coming from, Van, all leather seats, car, leather seats, sofa, love seat, chair, all leather, computer chairs x3 all leather. The animals die anyways. They might as well help us in some manner. Plus the cows or sheep don't go to waste, their meat is then sold to hungry people everywhere.

[sunissed14127]

thats definatly NOT animal cruelty. Thats basically the same thing as shaving a dog. but if you literally skin the animal, then yes, that is.

[mysticbreeze]

sheep are made to be used by humans... if they werent used then thed die because of all their wool...

Animals exist for their own purposes...none are "made" for people.

Sheep skin farming is obviously animal cruelty because they are killing the sheep for their skin, which is ridiculous considering we live in the 21st century and animal skin imitations are just like the real thing. The shearing of a sheep's wool would not be cruel if it were done properly and carefully, but alas I've read that sheep farmers are often paid by quantity and not hours spent so many rush and end up injuring the sheep in the process.

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[*xcaitlinx*]

see thats kind of funny, my uncle was one until he died. I had to watch him do that. So keep your mouth shut, cause you are starting to aggrivate me

you truly think that a silly article in the newspaper/magazine doesn't stretch the truth? of COURSE they will exaggerate on animal cruelty...they don`t express how most farmers DO love their farm animals and don't "purposely cut the sheep wen they shave the wool"...

ooh, and you're starting to aggravate ME, since you obviously believe everything that you read, even though a lot of it is propaganda.

[ghjgfkgfk]

Animals exist for their own purposes...none are "made" for people.

Sheep skin farming is obviously animal cruelty because they are killing the sheep for their skin, which is ridiculous considering we live in the 21st century and animal skin imitations are just like the real thing.  The shearing of a sheep's wool would not be cruel if it were done properly and carefully, but alas I've read that sheep farmers are often paid by quantity and not hours spent so many rush and end up injuring the sheep in the process.

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considering the fact that the link is from peta, i'm not believing a woooooooord you say.

[callie828]

Animals exist for their own purposes...none are "made" for people.

I think what she meant was that sheep whose wool is sheared are bred for exactly that purpose. Sheep are bred by humans and would probably not exist/survive otherwise. Wild sheep? Yeah ok.

Come on now folks. Are we really this worried about sheep? I mean, I'm not an advocate for animal cruelty. I love animals and don't condone abusing them. But I don't think we need to get all excited over sheep being injured from shearing or killed for their skins. It works as population control. If we didn't kill or eat any animals, we'd be overrun by them.

And why sheep? No one cares about the chicken they ate last night for dinner? Or the cute little moo-cows that were last week's veal and tomorrow's leather wallet?


Callie

[sadolakced acid]

if an animal cannot be domesticated, or is not useful when domesticated, it will become extinct, unless it can learn to live off of humans.

[mysticbreeze]

considering the fact that the link is from peta, i'm not believing a woooooooord you say.

...Um, the pictures are right there, what other proof do you need?

And why sheep? No one cares about the chicken they ate last night for dinner? Or the cute little moo-cows that were last week's veal and tomorrow's leather wallet?


Callie

...I'm a vegetarian so yeah...

[sadolakced acid]

PETA= terrorist organization.

i trust thier info as much as i trust al queda's

[gigiopolis]

I don't know anyone who thinks shearing sheep is cruel. And why would they? It's just shaving the wool off. It's not like you're skinning the sheep...

[mysticbreeze]

PETA= terrorist organization.

i trust thier info as much as i trust al queda's

What an idiotic statement.

[sadolakced acid]

how, exactly, is that an idiotic statement?

PETA has been known to bomb places that do animal testing.

PETA has pasted out pamhlets to kindergarteners that say 'Your mommy kills animals" and included many graphic pictures, unsutable for kids of that age.

PETA has done protests on private property, and refused police requests to go away and had to be arrested.

PETA has done protests on public property without a permit in order and refused police requests to go away and had to be arrested.

PETA haas 'liberated' (a.k.a. stolen) animals that are kept by breeders, or companies that do animal testing.

PETA is currently claiming that fish have deep feelings and emotions and is saying that comercial fishermen should anethetitize the fish before they kill or gut them.

PETA also claims that animals are not in any way phisiologically, mentally, anatomically, scientifically, chemically, etc. like humans and thus animal testing is usless, and then they claim animals are just like humans and should be treated as such.

PETA also claims in vitro tests are a better thing than animal testing, which is false. but they still claim it.

PETA fails to mention that when makeup is not tested on animals, bad things happen. I.E., one company sold a mascera without testing it on animals. 100 people went blind because of it.

PETA is a terrorist organization.

unless you're talking about PETA (people eating tasty animals) which is not a terrorist organization.

[ghjgfkgfk]

^agreed.
i'm copying what i said in another thread, but it fits in here. and because i'm lazy. and peta just sucks.

they are totally FOR the killing of any animal they believe is "scary", aka, the pit bull. which are completely stable, smart, playful, family loving pets, IF PROPERLY TRAINED (isn't it like that with all dogs?). mind you, they don't even support people having pets,

I don’t use the word 'pet. I prefer 'companion animal.' For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance.

they spend more of their donated money to advertise themsevles, rather than, i don't know, maybe actually HELPING the animals.
"PETA's donations totaled only $206,655.58, but they had a total revenue of almost $14 Million.

PETA spent the following on

1. PETA TV - Expense - $13,268.84
2. Electronic equipment, computers, cameras - Expense- $33,869.24
3. Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02
4. SNAP Vehicle - Expense - $150,000.00
5. Buildings and improvements - Expense - $295,101.60 (After a $195,000 donation of property)
6. Land - Expense - 94,170.00"
kind of looks like about less then one precent went to do what peta is "all about".

they also donated thosands of dollars to ELF or ALF, both activist extremists. both under FBI watch for terrorsim in arson, bombings, cutting the brake lines on fishery trucks, breaking and entering, destruction of government and organizational research laboratories and murder. because we all have no problem supporting terrorism.

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
- vegan campaign coordinator of PETA, “Animal Rights 2001” conference
no comment to that. haha.

they're hypocrites. they are against using animal research in the medial field. yet vice president willingly injects insulin for her diabetes. she says she needs her life fighting for animals. if that wasn't enough, try this, "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it" wow. lets kill million humans, in the present and future, just to save some animals lives?

[*salcha*]

Sheep wool shouldn't be considered animal cruelty because they shave their coats off but mindless farmers hurt their sheep in the process, so peta declared it animal cruelty.
Shep skin is animal cruelty because you kill the sheep for their skin, simple as that.

exactly what i was going to say

[comeupon]

Whenever I get one of those stupid surveys from Peta I fill it out, then sit down and have a nice steak. Animal cruelty? Big whoop, theres people being tortured all over the world andliving in poverty and we have a company that uses more than $50 million trying to save chickens and sheep?! I can understand trying to save endangered animals, or an animals along the lines of monkeys, chimps, zebras, elephants, etc, but sheep?! Somebody give me a break.