jesus land Options

[SkaironFrenzy]

well i'm a born again christian for about 3 years already and since election already passed like week ago people started making these thing against christians... one main example:






what they are saying is that since all u christians voted based on your beliefs and values, then might as well have a country on your own...... so we are just moving to canada.....Also i found a pic regrading that but i cant find it......


click here-report



[i know this might not be a debate]

[*tweeak*]

people are dumb. the end. that idea is shit, by the way

[Spirited Away]

What sore losers.

[SkaironFrenzy]

i guess we know where your going

[DaTru KataLYST]

i guess we know where your going

HAHA!

That is a good follow-up comeback for this thread.

[sadolakced acid]

they forgot to include england.

you know, that picture is just funny. and it's kinda right, because the GOP has shifted tactics. istead of appealing to everyone, they're using race and religion to get votes from a select majority, and thus they won.

[wayne]

wtf... i would kick someone's face if they told me some krap like that.

[Spirited Away]

i guess we know where your going

Were you trying to pick on me?

What would Bubba do? (Joe Scarborough)

I have been in touch with Democratic friends in Washington over the past few days to see what stage of mourning they have entered.

We are told there are, what, four, five stages of mourning?

Well, whatever the number, my friends are in the stage where the victim is really, really ticked off. (There is another word that is far more appropriate than "ticked" but the Justice Department probably reads these blogs, so the homogenized version will have to do) .

For those mentally healthy Democrats who are ready to put conspiracy theories behind them and start preparing for the next election, may I suggest you take a listen to one of the lone voices for moral values in the Democratic Party— Bill Clinton.

I will leave it to you to determine exactly what it means to the Democratic Party that a formerly impeached and disbarred politician is the voice of moral reason in his own party. But all that ugliness aside, right now William Jefferson Clinton seems to understand better than most what it takes for a Democrat to win votes in states like Missouri, Iowa, and Florida.

And no, my elitist, lefty friends: People in Kansas City don't want to launch a jihad against gay men. They just don't want appointed judges in Boston, Massachusetts passing orders to their Kansas leaders on the subject. Bill Clinton understands that better than John Kerry. That's why Mr. Clinton was called "Mr. President" for eight years while Senator Kerry's own Senate peers now call him "loser" behind his back.

It's not fair treatment for a man who just pulled in tens of millions of votes in such a way, any more than it is fair for MSM elites to dismiss all of us who live in flyover space as Jesus freaks.

Mr. Clinton knows that the stereotyping has led his once proud party to the edge of a cliff by creating a cultural divide between Us and Them.

How exactly does one respond to a New York Times opinion piece that suggest Christians who believe in the biblical version of Jesus' birth are on par with al Qaeda terrorists? What smoke signal does a Democrat living west of Manhattan send the Mother Ship explaining that insulting millions of voters' faith in God may not be the best way to win elections? (New York Times website subscription only— free but required)

James Carville claims the 2004 election was a "born again" experience for him, and that he now  understands the importance of values to Americans living in Red States. But soon after making that proclamation, he boiled the entire GOP message under Bush down to this: "We will protect you from terrorists in Tikrit and homos in Hollywood."

Maybe you need to get back on your knees, James.

As I explained after the Times opinion page compared those who believed in the virgin birth of Jesus Christ to Islamic fascists, there are many middle Americans who believe in the virgin birth who also drink vodka— just as there are those who go to church on Sunday morning and watch "Desperate Housewives" Sunday night.

Interesting isn't it, that a year after bashing George W. Bush for living in a world of black and white, it is his most vicious critics in the elite media who are incapable of grasping nuance?

Manhattan and Hollywood insiders have spent the past week dismissing 90 percent of America's land mass as "Jesus-land," while Bill Clinton and a scattering of Democrats begin their efforts to save the Democratic Party by mainstreaming it. But the task won't be easy.

Just as elites convinced themselves that the Democratic Party lost its foothold on the South because of some secret racist strategy adopted by Richard Nixon, these same political losers are now blaming Jesus for their worldly woes.

But religious bigotry and stereotyping won't save the Party of FDR. Instead, their leaders should be asking the one question I continually urged John Kerry to ask himself throughout the 2004 campaign: W.W.B.D.?

Yes, my friends— What would Bubba do?

Ask that question, listen to the former president's answers, and those same clueless Democrats who once again find themselves out of power may actually get themselves locked up in a competitive election with Karl Rove in the next few years.

And if they can stop from looking down their noses long enough to ask for our votes, they may even win a race or two west of New York City.

This post has been edited by uninspiredfae: Nov 23 2004, 02:44 PM

[sadolakced acid]

if the president after bush is like him, then i'm serioulsy going to consider moving out of the US...

i'm tired of having most of the world hate me. you know what i mean? sure, they don't understand it. but i'm sure the people in isreali buses understand terrorism much better. i'm sure the kids in the russian school that got taken over understand terroris better than us.

i don't want a president to encourage led prayers in public schools.
i don't want a president with christian morals, just good ones.
i don't want a president that will seek out the enemy whereever they are

i want a president who will do what's best for this country, not what's best for haliburton.

so if after november 2nd, 2008, i may consider moving out of jesusland.

and yes, i am an american citizen and think it was the best country in the world. untill recently.

[Spirited Away]

There is a movie out on DVD/VHS called Osama Bin Laden, or something close to that, and it really has to do more with the Taliban in general than Osama himself. I don't know how accurate that movie is, but after seeing it, I now support Bush a little more than before.

I can almost hear someone saying that I've climbed on to the propaganda wagon so I will just say that anyone who thinks so can go to Hell and eat puss and shit for all I care. Those who know my opinions fairly well know that I'm not one to believe so freely in anything I watch, hear, or see, but there are somethings are so OBVIOUS.

Bringing some degree of freedom and respect to a nation brutalized by centuries of colonial rule, corrupt leadership, and theocratic tyrants is a historically challenging goal. Some would say impossible. But as Tom Friedman concluded long ago, America and Europe cannot leave one-fifth of the world in the darkness of totalitarianism without serious consequences.

[sammi rules you]

man, i live in jesusland.
ya know, some christians voted for john kerry too.....yea..believe it or not..=O

[*tweeak*]

man, i live in jesusland.
ya know, some christians voted for john kerry too.....yea..believe it or not..=O

im catholic, and i would have voted for kerry

[Spirited Away]

There were non-religious affiliates and people not of Christain faith who voted for Bush as well.

The whole "Jesus Land" silliness was put together by sore losers. That's all.

[sadolakced acid]

well, i thought it was hilarious when i saw it. i don't really take it seriously, even if i do live in the 'buckle of the bible belt'

yes... i have experienced going to school and having people try to convert me.

yes, kerry lost. now everyone is back to bashing bush. because that was the original point.

let's hope bush doesn't do anything stupid tho.

[Spirited Away]

let's hope bush doesn't do anything stupid tho.

I wake up almost everyday hoping the same.

[sporadic]

A lot of people DID vote because of their religious beliefs, however... Not saying that everyone did, but it was a big factor for some.

[sadolakced acid]

religous beliefs wouldn't matter if we were all communist (wink minda)

they have true separation of church and state.. they decided that religion caused too much conflict and banned religion.

[Spirited Away]

A lot of people DID vote because of their religious beliefs, however... Not saying that everyone did, but it was a big factor for some.

And a lot of people voted because of their personal politics. That was a big factor, too, but obviously there are people, like the ones making up "Jesus Land" and "whoever voted for Bush is stupid", needed some growing up to see that.

All I'm saying is, it's a shame and so presumptuous to group people who voted because they're religious fanatics and those who voted because they agree to something that candidate promised them together.

They so believe in seperation of Church and State and yet they group the two groups together, not seeing the difference. That's stupidity and hypocrisy.