HILARY CLINTON, for PRESIDENCY IN 2008 Options

[pandamonium]

Who believes that Hilary Clinton can do a much better job of being president cause she makes strong decisions and she is a very powerful woman. I believe that she could possibly be the first woman president in the US. but if you do believe all of this and hopes she runs in 2008 leave your thoughts

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[*CrackedRearView*]

Sorry to inform you --

Mrs. Clinton is a moron.

[*tweeak*]

man, not her again. it would be neat to have a female president but not her. and no advetising please. also, this would proably belong in debate

[eli5e]

umm... not reallyyyy =P

[Spirited Away]

Who believe that Hilary Clinton can do a much better job of being president cause she makes strong decisions and she is a very powerful woman. I believe that she is going to be the first woman president in the US. but if you do believe all of this and hopes she runs in 2008 leave your thoughts and if you want to join my blog ring.

Is being able to make strong decisions the only criteria needed to make a good president?

I don't think so.

This ISN'T a debate. It's freaking advertisement.

This post has been edited by uninspiredfae: Nov 4 2004, 05:00 PM

[*eldandili*]

OMG HILARY CLINTON FOR 2008!!! pres. clinton had one of the strongest terms as president and hilary clinton was a huge influence and helped him with making decisions. she would do WONDERFUL job as a female president whoo hoo!

[ComradeRed]

Hillary Clinton is not Bill.

Hillary Clinton is about a combination of Bill Clinton, someone with no sense of humor, and Adolf Hitler.

Bill was not a bad president, but Hillary would be. Bill's WORST failure, his Healthcare policy, was created and executed by Hillary.

In the Senate, Hillary was one of only three senators to vote to reinstate the draft. She has been one of the most vocal supporters of the USA PATRIOT Act, as well as the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance "Reform" Act (AKA "make it easier to get re-elected to the US Congress than the Soviet politburo" act). She's also supported the blatantly unconstitutional Smith Act, as well as other acts violating civil liberties. Her Senate record is so bad, that the ACLU has her as the fifth-lowest ranked Democrat in the Senate. And the only reason she isn't THE lowest-ranked, is because she supports affirmative action.

[*kryogenix*]

It would be a nightmare if Hillary won. She wants Canada style healthcare, or so I've heard.

[ComradeRed]

Yes, it's called HillaryCare.

Hillary is one of the villains in my novel-in-progress. As the Wicked Witch of the East, she tries to get Dorothy to do mandatory national service, but then dies because she gets cancer and has to wait in line for healthcare a little too long.

[*kryogenix*]

Yes, it's called HillaryCare.

Hillary is one of the villains in my novel-in-progress. As the Wicked Witch of the East, she tries to get Dorothy to do mandatory national service, but then dies because she gets cancer and has to wait in line for healthcare a little too long.

LOL.

Man, she just makes my blood boil. And so does Charlie Rangel. Why is New York like this?

[*tweeak*]

Yes, it's called HillaryCare.

Hillary is one of the villains in my novel-in-progress. As the Wicked Witch of the East, she tries to get Dorothy to do mandatory national service, but then dies because she gets cancer and has to wait in line for healthcare a little too long.

hahaahahaha

what kind of health care does canada have, besides the kind that sells drugs to us here?

[ComradeRed]

LOL.

Man, she just makes my blood boil. And so does Charlie Rangel. Why is New York like this?

i thought rangel was from Nj.

But yeah, NY has the worst Congressmen. Schumer and Clinton make Ted Kennedy look desireable.

Overall, I think Arizona has the best representatives, and Colorado has the best senators (though I'm not sure how well Salazar will do), Idaho's senators are ogod too.

My single favorite congressman is ROn Paul of Texas, and my second favorite is Jeff Flake of Arizona.

[*kryogenix*]

i thought rangel was from Nj.

But yeah, NY has the worst Congressmen. Schumer and Clinton make Ted Kennedy look desireable.

Overall, I think Arizona has the best representatives, and Colorado has the best senators (though I'm not sure how well Salazar will do), Idaho's senators are ogod too.

My single favorite congressman is ROn Paul of Texas, and my second favorite is Jeff Flake of Arizona.

No, he's from NY.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/07/rangel.draft/

See, he wants to reinstate the draft, not George Bush.

[ComradeRed]

Rangel voted against his own bill. The point of the bill was to scare the crap out of the GOP Congressmen.

The bill failed 402-2 in the House, and 96-3 in the Senate (Clinton and Schumer were among the three that voted for it in the Senate). Rangel, I'm pretty sure, voted against his own bill.

[Mr. Psychotic]

Hillary Clinton is not Bill.

Hillary Clinton is about a combination of Bill Clinton, someone with no sense of humor, and Adolf Hitler.

I love the that....lol combination of Bill and Hitler...
I would be uber pissed if she won...but i know she won't.

[xTINAA]

I highly doubt she will win. One because she is a woman. And i`m not trying to be sexist but has there ever been a woman president? NO. and i don`t think that there is going to be one in the next 4 years. I don`t think the US is ready to make that big of a change and let a woman lead us. Plus, like ComradeRed said, Hilary clinton is not her husband, bill clinton. While he was an alright president, it doesn`t mean she will make a good president just because she is married to him.

[ComradeRed]

If she was a man, I wouldn't vote for her either.

[strice]

clinton obama 2008.

yeah right.

[pandamonium]

ok?

[pandamonium]

I highly doubt she will win. One because she is a woman. And i`m not trying to be sexist but has there ever been a woman president? NO. and i don`t think that there is going to be one in the next 4 years. I don`t think the US is ready to make that big of a change and let a woman lead us. Plus, like ComradeRed said, Hilary clinton is not her husband, bill clinton. While he was an alright president, it doesn`t mean she will make a good president just because she is married to him.

i kno there hasnt been any woman presidents thats why i made this topic up wtf... hello? And i brought this topic up because we havent had a good president for the 4 f**king years that bush has been here. it would of been a lot different if AL GORE won but he didnt so yea.

[liz217]

To ComradeRed: Where did you get your info about Hell-ary voting for those things. I always knew she was evil, but needed some concrete facts to show to a friend who "loves" Hillary.

I also heard she was the only senator who refused to go to the banquet held for mothers of war veterans. As a military wife, that alone outrages me.

[Spirited Away]

And i brought this topic up because we havent had a good president for the 4 f**king years that bush has been here. it would of been a lot different if AL GORE won but he didnt so yea.

That's your own biased opinion.

Are people, namely M1SSxCHR1SSY, not allowed to state their opinion and only listen to yours or something?

[*Weird addiction*]

i think she could be a great president cuz her husband wuz a magnificent president and they have the same beliefs...

[pandamonium]

That's your own biased opinion.

Are people, namely M1SSxCHR1SSY, not allowed to state their opinion and only listen to yours or something?

I kno its my own opinion thats why i put that up there??? in my mind president bush was a horrible president... to you he may have not been... but i didnt prevent anybody from from saying that he was a good president...

she gave her opinion but the reason for this topic is to say that shecould be the first woman prseident ... and no im not blocking "M1SScCHR1SSY's" opinion, i dont even know the chick. but the only thing i was pointing out is that there is a possibility that she could be the first woman as president and then she stated that there was no woman presidents ever and everybody in the US already knows that.. so stop instigating and get facts right before you accuse ppl of doing something wrong.

[*kryogenix*]

i think she could be a great president cuz her husband wuz a magnificent president and they have the same beliefs...

Clinton might not have became president if Perot didn't run in '92. He might not have been regarded as a good president if there was no internet bubble, or Y2K. Clinton lied under oath. But that's a different debate topic...

kno its my own opinion thats why i put that up there??? in my mind president bush was a horrible president... to you he may have not been... but i didnt prevent anybody from from saying that he was a good president...

she gave her opinion but the reason for this topic is to say that shecould be the first woman prseident ... and no im not blocking "M1SScCHR1SSY's" opinion, i dont even know the chick. but the only thing i was pointing out is that there is a possibility that she could be the first woman as president and then she stated that there was no woman presidents ever and everybody in the US already knows that.. so stop instigating and get facts right before you accuse ppl of doing something wrong.

What are you talking about? M1SSxCHR1SSY stated facts and used logic to prove her point, which you dismissed. You don't know what you're talking about, telling uninspiredfae to get her facts straight.

[pandamonium]

Are people, namely M1SSxCHR1SSY, not allowed to state their opinion and only listen to yours or something?

Uninspiredfae accused me of not allowing M1SSxCHR1SSY speak her mind. that is why i responded like that.. that is why i told her to get her facts straight before accusing me of doing that to Missxchrissy. I simply said that everyone knows that there was no woman president before and i stated that to CHRissy herself.

i dont have to keep repeating myself to explain everything over and over again... i already explained it.

[*kryogenix*]

Uninspiredfae accused me of not allowing M1SSxCHR1SSY speak her mind. that is why i responded like that.. that is why i told her to get her facts straight before accusing me of doing that to Missxchrissy. I simply said that everyone knows that there was no woman president before and i stated that to CHRissy herself.

i dont have to keep repeating myself to explain everything over and over again... i already explained it.

Obviously you're not understanding. She is saying that you aren't respecting her side (which is backed by fact), and instead, you are pretty much saying "WELL HILLARY IS BETTER!" You're pretty much discounting her argument by not arguing back, but still holding on to your view. Did you even read what uninspiredfae quoted? She quoted you saying that we haven't had a good president in 4 years. THAT'S YOUR OWN BIASED OPINION, how do you not understand that?

[pandamonium]

Obviously you're not understanding. She is saying that you aren't respecting her side (which is backed by fact), and instead, you are pretty much saying "WELL HILLARY IS BETTER!" You're pretty much discounting her argument by not arguing back, but still holding on to your view. Did you even read what uninspiredfae quoted? She quoted you saying that we haven't had a good president in 4 years. THAT'S YOUR OWN BIASED OPINION, how do you not understand that?

I do understand her.. i read everyones posts... i ACTUALLY DO AGREE with that whole "hilary is not her husband, just because she is his wife doesnt mean they are the same " i really do agree with that. but i never implied that HILARY was better .. i just thought that BUSH really did bad as being a president for his first term serviving. but never did i think that i was saying that "HILARY WAS BETTER" i never meant to do that at all.. but the reason i was arguing this whole time is about the whole WHOLE WOMAN PRESIDENCY, about her being the first woman president, she said it like i was stupid or something thats why i got fired up.

AND DONT REPEAT ME CAUSE YOU KNOW I CAN READ. I KNOW ITS MY OWN BIASED OPINION THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT.

[xxslimbabezxx]

Obviously you're not understanding. She is saying that you aren't respecting her side (which is backed by fact), and instead, you are pretty much saying "WELL HILLARY IS BETTER!" You're pretty much discounting her argument by not arguing back, but still holding on to your view. Did you even read what uninspiredfae quoted? She quoted you saying that we haven't had a good president in 4 years. THAT'S YOUR OWN BIASED OPINION, how do you not understand that?

Alright I have to add my two cents in this discussion... and anyone who has a problem with that can bite me... because you all are like let so and so say their opinion and saying pandamonium is not letting them speak... so here I go... Pandamonium was just asking a question and asking for ya'lls opinion... But M1SSxCHR1SSY's reply was totally ignorant... if you read it carefully there was a definite bitchy tone to it... and pandamonium was just responding to that tone... so before ya'll gang up on someone take your own advice... and let people express how they feel

[islandkiss]

though she's a woman, democratic, and the wife of a recent and well-liked president doesn't infer that she's good enough to handle the job of being a president. she can't even handle her job as a senator and you expect her to be voted as our next president?

[xpLiCitsmuRfette]

she has MY vote :]

[SarahxJoy]

There's talk about how she will run for president in 2008.
I don't know if I'd like her to be the first female president.
Why can't we have someone like..Oprah, be our first female president?

[*kryogenix*]

Now you're making new accounts to argue?

[Spirited Away]

Alright I have to add my two cents in this discussion... and anyone who has a problem with that can bite me... because you all are like let so and so say their opinion and saying pandamonium is not letting them speak... so here I go... Pandamonium was just asking a question and asking for ya'lls opinion... But M1SSxCHR1SSY's reply was totally ignorant... if you read it carefully there was a definite bitchy tone to it... and pandamonium was just responding to that tone... so before ya'll gang up on someone take your own advice... and let people express how they feel

So it's okay for you to call someone's intelligent reply to be ignorant but it's not okay for anyone to reproach you for it? What kind of backward world do you live in?

There was a bitchy tone to M1SSxCHR1SSY's comment? More like, it was a "watch-what-you're-saying-and-get-your-facts-straight" tone. It actually sounds more intelligent than what Pandamonium answered with, i.e, "wtf... hello?".

[xxslimbabezxx]

ok wow. first thing, it maybe the same computer but it may be different people. And wow get a life.

[pandamonium]

woah this got OUT OF CONTROL! lol sry guys. but hey it's nice to let off a little steam.



i really wanted nader to win in the election tho lol!!! go nader.

i didnt want kerry to win cause he would let women have abortions and i dont like abortions that well.

[x_oPw3ciousPRicA...]

wow so much debating in here lol
yea this seems like an advertisement. Ive been hearing alot about her running for presidency. i wonder how tht would go

[*kryogenix*]

I think the best choice for the democrats would be Lieberman and Obama. Lieberman is moderate, so that'll get them lots of votes, and everyone likes Obama.

[ComradeRed]

Lieberman is far from moderate. He's just far right on some issues and far left on others.

Calling Lieberman a moderate is like calling Stalin a moderate.

[rivendell]

I think the best choice for the democrats would be Lieberman and Obama. Lieberman is moderate, so that'll get them lots of votes, and everyone likes Obama.

I'm from CT. I've dealt with Lieberman for YEARS. He is a democrat in name only. He is far from moderate. Ack. The man is the most conservative democrat I know.

Obama as much as I adore him would have a tough time getting elected, as would Hilary Clinton. Outside of the Northeastern United States, she would have a hell of a time. Not many people like her outside of New England / New York.

What the democrats need is another Southerner like Clinton. There is no way the democrats can get a liberal from the Northeast elected in this country right now.

[ComradeRed]

Hillary Clinton is a liberal in the sense that Mao Tse-dong was a liberal. She'd have a hard time even sweeping New England. If she ran gainst a moderate Republican, all she'd win would be NY, MA, CT, RI, MD, DC, CA, HI, and IL. MI, NJ, AR, WI, IA, and PA are possibly long shots. If she's really lucky, she could win LA and MO.

Though as bad as she is, she's still better than her colleague Senator Charles Schumer, who disgraced himself by defending the actions of the Secret Police at WACO, and then, after September 11th, said that he was grateful for the attacks because now, "The Era of Big Government is here to stay", later proposing a reinstate the draft bill. Schumer has zero integrity, and is just all around a despicable, sleazy man, a combination of the worst of Tammany Hall-style corruption and Mussolini-style despotism. whom I bet has a big portrait of Stalin hanging in his bedroom, because that's clearly his historical idol.