bestiality, animal cruelty? Options

[waccoon]

Is it really animal cruelty when the dogs aren't harmed?

Sex doesn't have any side effects, does it?
Is sex cruel?
Bestiality should be legal.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Well, as long as both of the species sonsent to it, then why not

[TheSilenceInDict...]

You eye Rover.
Rover eyes you.
Eye contact.
You make a pass at Rover.
He wags his tail.
It's on.
---
I'm pretty sure with the sizes of the respective parties' organs, it might be a bit unfair. But, if the animal doesn't resist, then hell, why not. Go tenderize your meat before you eat it.

[melface]

lmao... Oh no...

well... if the dog LIKES it... and is getting off to it... then sure, why not... I just hope no guys go around f**king dogs or any other animals.

[waccoon]

You eye Rover.
Rover eyes you.
Eye contact.
You make a pass at Rover.
He wags his tail.
It's on.
---
I'm pretty sure with the sizes of the respective parties' organs, it might be a bit unfair. But, if the animal doesn't resist, then hell, why not. Go tenderize your meat before you eat it.

Horse penis can be over a foot and a half long.
How's that for intimidation?

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Dolphins and humans are the only species that have sex for the pleasure

[waccoon]

Dolphins and humans are the only species that have sex for the pleasure

Well, I'm asking.. Should it be legalized? Is it unfair or cruel to the animals?

[melface]

Dolphins and humans are the only species that have sex for the pleasure

so why do dog's get all horny and you can see their f**king red penis come out at you and ... oh sick..

[*AngelicEyz00*]

I have no idea, and it puzzles me too when i see my cousins chihuahua humping the stuffed animals...

But i have read that in many places as a fact

[waccoon]

I have no idea, and it puzzles me too when i see my cousins chihuahua humping the stuffed animals...

But i have read that in many places as a fact

They're horny, simple.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

but they don't have sex for pleasure

[waccoon]

but they don't have sex for pleasure

But they're horny..

[melface]

If you're horny are you just going to sit there and do nothing about it... I'm sure if they could f*ck they could...

[TheSilenceInDict...]

so why do dog's get all horny and you can see their f**king red penis come out at you and ... oh sick..

Try putting salt on that 'red thing' and watch the dog go nuts.
It tortures them...my friend did it to his dog. So sad.

[waccoon]

Try putting salt on that 'red thing' and watch the dog go nuts.
It tortures them...my friend did it to his dog. So sad.

Now THAT'S animal cruelty.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

aww, poor doggie

[waccoon]

Try putting some salt on YOUR penis, buddy.

[TheSilenceInDict...]

Try putting some salt on YOUR penis, buddy.

I have. Tons of fun.
Mel licked it off.
---
Back on topic...my sick ass friend DLed some beastiality porn.
Some chick sucking off a horse.
She gagged like crazy of course. Man was that insane. I don't know why I even watched it.

[waccoon]

I have. Tons of fun.
Mel licked it off.
---
Back on topic...my sick ass friend DLed some beastiality porn.
Some chick sucking off a horse.
She gagged like crazy of course. Man was that insane. I don't know why I even watched it.

Debate on it's legality, not how sick it is.

[melface]

no one is debating, Nick...




legality, huh? It should be illegal because that's why they made other female doggies, silly!

[TheSilenceInDict...]

Jeez, Sorrrrrrr~y.
Haha, I think it should be legalized.
Why? Not because I practice it, but people should have the freedom to do what they want to do when it's not damaging, blah blah blah, all that good stuff.
We slaughter animals for food...why not make love to them?

Did I just say that...? Jeez...

[waccoon]

Jeez, Sorrrrrrr~y.
Haha, I think it should be legalized.
Why? Not because I practice it, but people should have the freedom to do what they want to do when it's not damaging, blah blah blah, all that good stuff.
We slaughter animals for food...why not make love to them?

Did I just say that...? Jeez...

YOUROCKSORZ.

[gigiopolis]

Dolphins and humans are the only species that have sex for the pleasure

Yah it's true =). I find that very interesting.

So that shows you that dogs don't have sex for pleasure...that means the only reason dogs have sex is to reproduce.

Maybe the reason the dog wants to hump you is because you have dog-like qualities?

Cut off that shaggy hair.


I think...it's really really weird. Like. Beyond weirdness. It's just wrong. I don't think it's good for humans. Not that the dogs would have any feelings about it, seeing as how they only have sex to reproduce. Humans...ugh. Either you're mentally ill or...in serious need of intimacy.

Hell, I'll give you that couple hundred bucks to go find a hooker, just don't eff the dogs!

[waccoon]

I think...it's really really weird. Like. Beyond weirdness. It's just wrong. I don't think it's good for humans. Not that the dogs would have any feelings about it, seeing as how they only have sex to reproduce. Humans...ugh. Either you're mentally ill or...in serious need of intimacy.

Hell, I'll give you that couple hundred bucks to go find a hooker, just don't eff the dogs!

That's nice, but don't share your personal opinions, that's not what a debate is.
"OMG DATZ SICK" <- No.
"I beleive bestiality should be illegal because bestiality offenders have blah blah" <- Yes.

Maybe the reason the dog wants to hump you is because you have dog-like qualities?

Cut off that shaggy hair.

.. No? It's not about your hair. If you present youself to him, you're offering yourself.

[captured_serenit...]

i dont think it's animal creulty but i think that if they like it they do if not then they don't.

[sammi rules you]

um..isn't a dog's..hole..a bit small?
it would hurt a little, no?

[waccoon]

um..isn't a dog's..hole..a bit small?
it would hurt a little, no?

No, it wouldn't hurt that much.
Sex itself hurts, right?
Dog penis, on average, are larger than human penises.

[sammi rules you]

No, it wouldn't hurt that much.
Sex itself hurts, right?
Dog penis, on average, are larger than human penises.

woah. go doggies.

then i guess..yeah, if it isn't harming them. it might do some mental damage..i dunno, but it could.

[waccoon]

woah. go doggies.

then i guess..yeah, if it isn't harming them. it might do some mental damage..i dunno, but it could.

It's not rape.
I guess I should have mentioned zoophilia earlier.
Mental damage, are you kidding? The poor doggies are traumatized because of sex . If they werent willing, they would pull away.

[sammi rules you]

It's not rape.
I guess I should have mentioned zoophilia earlier.
Mental damage, are you kidding? The poor doggies are traumatized because of sex . If they werent willing, they would pull away.

true..

*shrug* then it should be legal.

[melface]

Great, now she wants to f*ck a dog...



IT SHOULDN'T BE LEGAL.

[TheSilenceInDict...]

No, it wouldn't hurt that much.
Sex itself hurts, right?
Dog penis, on average, are larger than human penises.

Don't ask how the frig I would know this, but, aren't dogs penises softer?
::Shudders::
Man, this is weird.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

[cough]

How do you know this joe!!

[waccoon]

Don't ask how the frig I would know this, but, aren't dogs penises softer?
::Shudders::
Man, this is weird.

A little, yeah, not enough to make a difference.

[TheSilenceInDict...]

A little, yeah, not enough to make a difference.

Okay, well either way, doesn't the male dog the one who provides lubrication?
So, unless the guy uses lube, they'd be hurting the dog, eh?

How do you know this joe!!

Me and my cousin used to poke it with a stick when we were little.

[waccoon]

Okay, well either way, doesn't the male dog the one who provides lubrication?
So, unless the guy uses lube, they'd be hurting the dog, eh?
Me and my cousin used to poke it with a stick when we were little.

Yeah, the penis gets coated with the fluids.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

ROFL...

You're kidding me right

[gigiopolis]

It's not rape.
I guess I should have mentioned zoophilia earlier.
Mental damage, are you kidding? The poor doggies are traumatized because of sex . If they werent willing, they would pull away.

Yah it's not rape...but how can you judge that?

Physically, rape and sex are one and the same. It's the emotions that make a different term. Rape is unwanted and usually the victim is extremely traumatized after it. Sex...is enjoyment and willingness.

But dogs don't have the same emotions or intelligence as humans...and therefore wouldn't be able to think for themselves or object to reproduction. Who can say that the dogs are enjoying it? Or the dogs aren't enjoying it? No one can.

[waccoon]

Yah it's not rape...but how can you judge that?

Physically, rape and sex are one and the same. It's the emotions that make a different term. Rape is unwanted and usually the victim is extremely traumatized after it. Sex...is enjoyment and willingness.

But dogs don't have the same emotions or intelligence as humans...and therefore wouldn't be able to think for themselves or object to reproduction. Who can say that the dogs are enjoying it? Or the dogs aren't enjoying it? No one can.

Rape is sexual intercourse without every participants willing consent.
If the dogs were unwilling, would they not pull away instinctivly?

Who are you to judge the intelligence of dogs, or put a cap on their emotions? I think dogs are pretty damn smart, look how many disasters dogs have prevented, look what dogs are able to do; help the disabled, protect children, help people when they're in distress. Can you give me some proof that dogs are below sapiens in any way, be it emotionally or mentally?

[sikdragon]

The dog's cannot consent, speaking a different language and all. They lack undestanding of what they are doing and cannot make a well informed decision, not being consensual, it is infact rape. Rape is illegal and should not be other wise. Imagine when you were a virgin, now imagine the person you hate most taking it from you, Do Not legalize what plagues the most undeserving victims. It is animal cruelty, and unnatural. Yet another day perversness prevails. Look at all of you talking of dog penis. Whatever happened to shame and obscurity??

Im not judging any of you, how can i? I dont know you. I can only deduce from what i see, or as the Sports caster says, "I only calls em as i sees em."

[mzteriouzme007]

i dont' get it! explain, please!

[Spirited Away]

i dont' get it! explain, please!

If you are under 13, please do not post in this thread, nor read it. Unless you really really want to try out new things.

[waccoon]

The dog's cannot consent, speaking a different language and all. They lack undestanding of what they are doing and cannot make a well informed decision, not being consensual, it is infact rape. Rape is illegal and should not be other wise. Imagine when you were a virgin, now imagine the person you hate most taking it from you, Do Not legalize what plagues the most undeserving victims. It is animal cruelty, and unnatural. Yet another day perversness prevails. Look at all of you talking of dog penis. Whatever happened to shame and obscurity??

Im not judging any of you, how can i? I dont know you. I can only deduce from what i see, or as the Sports caster says, "I only calls em as i sees em."

Dogs understand what they are doing. They are very aware of who's around them. If the dogs did not consent, they would egress quickly.

Dogs don't hate their companions. If there was the slightest bit of hatred, the human would have gotten rid of the dog.

You say you only judge by what you see, but you fail to analyze the issue extensively.

[sammi rules you]

Dogs understand what they are doing. They are very aware of who's around them. If the dogs did not consent, they would egress quickly.

Dogs don't hate their companions. If there was the slightest bit of hatred, the human would have gotten rid of the dog.

You say you only judge by what you see, but you fail to analyze the issue extensively.

*points* listen to him, he uses big words and knows what he's talking about.

[sikdragon]

Dogs understand what they are doing. They are very aware of who's around them. If the dogs did not consent, they would egress quickly.

Dogs don't hate their companions. If there was the slightest bit of hatred, the human would have gotten rid of the dog.

You say you only judge by what you see, but you fail to analyze the issue extensively.

It was an example. Dog's do not understand what they are doing. Just because they know what it is does not mean they are capable of making an informed decision. You have no understanding of the issue aside from what it is. How can you judge my analysis?

*points* listen to him, he uses big words and knows what he's talking about.

Does he really? just because he sounds like he knows vast amount more than you does not make him automatically an expert on the topic.

[sammi rules you]

Does he really? just because he sounds like he knows vast amount more than you does not make him automatically an expert on the topic.

i didn't say he knew more than me. i said he knows what he's talking about, because he does.

[sikdragon]

He does not and if you believe that he does niether do you.

[sammi rules you]

He does not and if you believe that he does niether do you.

how would you know if he does or doesn't? do you know him personally? i doubt it.

[sikdragon]

Did you read what he said about what i said?

[sammi rules you]

Did you read what he said about what i said?

..what? that dogs would back away and run off if they didn't want it? yeah. it's right. your point?

[sikdragon]

Dog's do not have the capacity to discern what it wants or doesnt want. If it did they would have the rank of humans. Dogs run on instinct.

[sammi rules you]

where's your proof on that? we can't understand them, how should we know what they think?

[sikdragon]

But we know they want human sex? You're going around in circles.

[sammi rules you]

we don't know that, but if they don't back away they must not mind. if you hit a dog, it becomes scared and backs away because they don't want you to. it works the same way.

[TheSilenceInDict...]

Dog's do not have the capacity to discern what it wants or doesnt want. If it did they would have the rank of humans. Dogs run on instinct.

Really, dogs don't have the mental capability to know what it wants?
If it's thirsty, it won't head over to a dish of water?
If it's cold, it won't seek for shelter?
I can keep going with examples, but I'm lazy.

The only thing that generally separates animals and humans is one main thing - the ability to REASON.
That is what would bring animals to the 'rank of humans' as you so poorly put it.
Hell, Dolphins and Chimps can be pretty damn smart if you ask me.

Speaking of which, how about trained animals? Seeing eye dogs and the like?
Are they the same challenged creatures you categorized dogs in?
Answer me that, genius.

Your disrespect for animals sickens me.

[Danny]

i think it should be illegal... because... well... its just disturbing... how would you feel if you were the dog? ... ugh nevermind dont imagine that... haha... but i know someone who did it once... a guy and a guy dog... ugh i did NOT need to hear that considering i was eavesdropping on someone else... i was mentally scarred from that day on ... and it was recently

[waccoon]

i think it should be illegal... because... well... its just disturbing... how would you feel if you were the dog? ... ugh nevermind dont imagine that... haha... but i know someone who did it once... a guy and a guy dog... ugh i did NOT need to hear that considering i was eavesdropping on someone else... i was mentally scarred from that day on ... and it was recently

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...ndpost&p=706160

Kthx.

Sikdragon, why do you always act like you're the damn best at debating, and you know way more than everyone else?

[innovation]

oh dear god.
er... interesting topic, nick.

[sporadic]

if the dog didn't want to, he'd bite you. So... whatever floats your boat.

[gigiopolis]

we don't know that, but if they don't back away they must not mind. if you hit a dog, it becomes scared and backs away because they don't want you to. it works the same way.

Well, when you hit a dog, it hurts. That's why they back away. But sex is a very natural process dogs go through...and it doesn't hurt, so why would they back away?

Of course, you can take a human example too. For some reason society has lead us to believe that children cannot speak for themselves. If a little 2 year old girl is being raped, she really doesn't have much defense against herself. And she also does not know how to feel (because what the man's doing to her...it feels somewhat good?). Is it a bad thing that this man is touching me? Is it a good thing that this man is making me feel good? This leads on to immense confusion...and usually it lasts long enough for rape to happen.

Somehow, that's wrong in society. If children are raped, it's considered wrong. But what right do you have to say the child did not object to this form of cruel and unusual punishment? But of course, the child is emotionally damaged. But how do you know that? An average two year old doesn't know how to fully explain themselves or think straight (at least, for me. I was a pretty late bloomer).

The same with dogs. Dogs cannot speak for themselves and therefore their superiors (humans) speak for them, just like adults speak for small children. This doesn't mean that dogs aren't intelligent, because they are in many ways, but dogs simply cannot express themselves in a way humans would understand.

If it's wrong to rape/have sex with a toddler, why isn't it wrong to rape/have sex with an animal, when both of them cannot speak for themselves?

Would modern society actually do the opposite - say that children are actually agreeing to rape? And that dogs are forced into sex?

I'm afraid not.

[sammi rules you]

Well, when you hit a dog, it hurts. That's why they back away. But sex is a very natural process dogs go through...and it doesn't hurt, so why would they back away?

ok, better example. when i put my hand out gently in front of my dog, she comes and pokes it with her nose because she wants me to pet her. however, when she does something bad, you can tell she knows it cause when my mom walks in the room, she backs away because she knows she's gonna get hit. (i used my mom there for a reason; i would never hit my dog and i hate it when my mom does, but that's beside the point.) she doesn't want to get hit, and she hasn't been hit yet so it hasn't hurt her. she knows what's gonna happen though, so she backs away because she doesn't want it to.

[gigiopolis]

ok, better example. when i put my hand out gently in front of my dog, she comes and pokes it with her nose because she wants me to pet her. however, when she does something bad, you can tell she knows it cause when my mom walks in the room, she backs away because she knows she's gonna get hit. (i used my mom there for a reason; i would never hit my dog and i hate it when my mom does, but that's beside the point.) she doesn't want to get hit, and she hasn't been hit yet so it hasn't hurt her. she knows what's gonna happen though, so she backs away because she doesn't want it to.

It is a better example =)

Hmm...but still. It doesn't really answer/reply to my point. My point was that dogs will pull away if it is something they don't like. And from your example, the dog still pulls away from something that they don't want to encounter. Your dog knows she's going to get hurt. That's why she pulls away early. But if your dog knows that she's going to have sex...now why would she pull away? (see last post, it said that sex was natural, etc)

I don't know if I'm making sense, lol.

And out of curiosity, what's the "campaign?" (on your signature). It looks interesting =)

Sikdragon, why do you always act like you're the damn best at debating, and you know way more than everyone else?

Sikdragon made himself the unofficial Debate Section Owner, despite the basic political philosophies of democracy,voting, and the "majority rules" concept.

And I'm not sure if that was an insult or compliment, seeing as how the "more" could be a typo, but I take it that sikdragon is undoubtedly smart and spends time...er...learning.

EDIT// by the way, there's a typo for the topic. It's beastiality, not bestiality.

[sunissed14127]

Try putting salt on that 'red thing' and watch the dog go nuts.
It tortures them...my friend did it to his dog. So sad.

now thats wrong. thats what i call aninaml cruelty.

[norconlipentut]

well i was thinking about being on a farm and then a word popped up into my mind, BEASTIALITY, and then i thought does anyone really do it? I havent ever heard anything about it on the news or anything. EX: Farmer Brown does Chicken...what will the chicks look like. I think that would be pretty funny at least.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

Maybe, you should try it

[sunissed14127]

lol...give it a try, and tell us what haoppens

[someflipguy]

WTH!!!! Why are you so curious?

[*AngelicEyz00*]

I'd say, stick with humans...

[JlIaTMK]

First of all, humans and chickens arent genitically alike enough to produce offspring. Either you're really young, or you havent paid enough attention in bio/science/health class. That's not possible.
2ndly I shall give you step by step instructions to check if this is true.
www.google.com
search beastiality/farm sex
click on site
not only info, but free porno too! yay!!

okay, what im trying to say is if there is a word for it, then its true.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

I remember a friend from one of my schools said something about a friend of his dad's who used to live on a farm and had sex with likethe horse or something... eeeeeeewwwww

[JlIaTMK]

I remember a friend from one of my schools said something about a friend of his dad's who used to live on a farm and had sex with likethe horse or something... eeeeeeewwwww

LMAOOOO hahaha elba. Farm sex ugh so damn gross. Id rather do it with a monkey then with a horse. At least we came from a common ancestor

[sunissed14127]

I remember a friend from one of my schools said something about a friend of his dad's who used to live on a farm and had sex with likethe horse or something... eeeeeeewwwww

thats sick....blah

[shortiiex]

lol..this reminds me of a epsiode in South Park...all the Peta ppl made love to animals and one of the babys was like this talkin ugly thing and it was saying"kill me"

[Chii]

yes, people do have sex with animals, it was even rumored that catherine the great had sex with her horses, there were things written about it by stable boys and whoever...according to my global teacher

yes as someone else said, a human and an animal cannot reproduce

[*Kathleen*]

Hahaha that reminds me of one JTHM comic. I wonder if anyone read that. It's a pretty darn hilarious concept...as long as it's not you.

[*xcaitlinx*]

LMFAO...omg...that brings back a horrible memory. i was on some site [no, not porno!] and this pop-up came up and it has this girl f**kign a horse..it was so disgusting i was lyk scarred for life. hahaah

[lovescream]

Eww! Bad bad BAD images!

[emptyminded]

:Bad mental image: Uh sick people do it. Normal people should not. That is that. And no as everyone has said, it's not possible to have mixed species offspring.

[fallen_angel1137]

That's disgusting... People who have sex with animals are...>

[Nicolatofu]

Of course there are sickos like that out there! Those people must be really lonely or something...

[ghjgfkgfk]

damn. there goes my weekend plans.

;/

[angel-roh]

lol i remember when our teacher was discussing about that during my integrated science class haha. he said that it's not possible for a human to reproduce an egg... that would be scary then

[burnoveride]

WTH!!!! ok this topic is way more random then mine hahaha

dude stay away from the animals lmao

[xj_liana_tx]

i think i heard about somebody who did his chicken recently, in the news

[*Podomaht*]

Eh.....okay. Hah...can anyone say "inappropriate?"

[jr0h]

i didnt get you at first but now i do.

go fcuk one if youre so concerned

[*Podomaht*]

Not to kill this "wonderful" topic...but...I really don't think this is PG-13...

[*krnxswat*]

Of course.
Horses are the best, if you want to know.
How do I know? Oh, that, you don't want to know.

[xsweetxcandyx]

i've heard about it before.. but its really icky!

[DaTru KataLYST]

Of course.
Horses are the best, if you want to know.
How do I know? Oh, that, you don't want to know.

::applause::


But can a chimpanzee and a human reproduce? =o

tigers and lions can!

[*wind&fire*]

^ yeh but they arent fertile... thus nota new species... its like horsees and donkeys make mules... yes they exist but cannot repoduce...

[Heathasm]

haha beastiality is so gross and yes people really do do it...
ew ....animals are so gross and um..not clean >_< aghh

[gigiopolis]

There was a very interesting topic on this in the Debate forum.

And do I think people actually do it? For sure. This topic makes me think of what kind of species Jeff x Gorilla can make.

[dani41790]

I remember a friend from one of my schools said something about a friend of his dad's who used to live on a farm and had sex with likethe horse or something... eeeeeeewwwww

lol ewwl that is so wrong. but umm if you're curious why dont you try it out

[Rachel]

WTH!!!!  Why are you so curious?

exactly what i was thinking!!


but yes, there are people who do it and get off on it...theres plenty of porn out with beastiality...if your so interested, google it!

[*xcaitlinx*]

ok, all i have to say is --- disgusting. i dont know what else to say.

[*salcha*]

Try putting salt on that 'red thing' and watch the dog go nuts.
It tortures them...my friend did it to his dog. So sad.

omg...isnt that animal cruelty then?

[x-hobo-x]

is making bonsai cats animal cruelty?

for those of u who don't know wut they are.. they are cats that have been injected with muscle relaxant or something like that and they're put in this jar with only a straw to be fed through.. they spend their whole life in that jar and eventually get the shape of the jar.. sad huh? :( oh yea, they don't get hurt.. so IS IT animal cruelty???

[ps] whooot! 100th poster on this thread XD

[*Azarel*]

is making bonsai cats animal cruelty?

for those of u who don't know wut they are.. they are cats that have been injected with muscle relaxant or something like that and they're put in this jar with only a straw to be fed through.. they spend their whole life in that jar and eventually get the shape of the jar.. sad huh? :( oh yea, they don't get hurt.. so IS IT animal cruelty???

Bonsai kittens was a hoax pulled off by college students. Never posted a photo of the finished product of a "bonsai kitten." Don't believe everything you see on the Internet.

[x-hobo-x]

omg really?
XDD
that would explain all the perfect grammar in EVERYONE's --if not a flame letter's-- comments