Who gets blamed for the 9/11 terrorist attack? Options

[*Statistik*]

Guys..I dont really know much about the terrorist attacks at 9/11..who gets blamed for it? osama, saddam, or bush?

[strice]

bush admin and osama. saddam had nothing to do with it.

[MeanBastard]

Osama and the Bush Administration.

[lilazneye10]

definistly osma and bush... Bush had made so many mistakes

[*basick*]

yeah osama and bush definately because saddam didnt have anything to do with it

[inlonelinessidie]

Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and the Bush Administration.

[PingPong]

y do u guys say bush?
did u know that the terrorist DID warn us about them gunna attack us for many years... when Clinton was the Presedent.. they kepted on treating us about attacking..
so if u put cush in there.. u should have put Clinton as well...

[Spirited Away]

HHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Was there a conspiracy by the Bush Administration that the American people know nothing about? All of a sudden people are blaming 9/11 on Bush.

This is the most RIDICULOUS thing I've heard thus far in this political rabble. Please tell me that you people are kidding.

Even though Bush hasn't done much in your eyes, I can't fathom how the one thing you believe he could have done was causing 9/11. How the hell do you think he managed that?

And Jason, if you don't know much about 9/11 attack, then maybe you should research. Read some old news article and form your own opinions about what happened. The worse you can do by reading old news is learn something, so why not read? Hearsay and forming your opinions from hearsay isn't the best way to learn.

[i ami_am]

osam first then bish for not protecting us

[Spirited Away]

osam first then bish for not protecting us

Sorry to be crude, but what the fcuk are you talking about? Blame the CIA for not figuring it out if you want to blame anyone.

Oh yes Bush is a seer. He saw that thousands of American died and did nothing about it.

And here I thought you people were kidding about it.

[PingPong]

What the fcuk are you talking about? Blame the CIA for not figuring it out if you want to blame anyone.

Oh yes Bush is a seer. He saw that thousands of American died and did nothing about it.

And here I thought you people were kidding about it.

DUDE we have been warned before bush was in power..
the terrorist was been warning us about them attacking once Clinton was in power..

but clinton didnt do anything... the US just let it pass.. n they just HAPPEN to attack when bush was in power n people are blaming him.. WTF?

blame clinton cuz he didnt protect us..

[inlonelinessidie]

Fine I blame both. But when Bush came into power he had the chance to do something but chose not to. Clinton wasn't in power at the time. If 9/11 happened when Clinton was in power I would blame his Administration also.

[Spirited Away]

Had a chance to do what exactly? See the future?

[inlonelinessidie]

Had a chance to do what exactly? See the future?

Had a chance to act upon these threats. He should've taken them seriously, and yes Clinton should've too.

[*kryogenix*]

ooh, i love how people say 9/11 is Bush's fault. the truth is, it isn't. no one could have imagined it. it is al qaeda's fault, osama and the hijackers fault. NOT george bush's fault.

[inlonelinessidie]

ooh, i love how people say 9/11 is Bush's fault. the truth is, it isn't. no one could have imagined it. it is al qaeda's fault, osama and the hijackers fault. NOT george bush's fault.

OK, let me put it this way. There is a mother, a toddler and a swimming pool. The mother knows that the swimming pool is a threat for her child's well being but still decides to do nothing about it. She's been warned and aware of what could happen, but doesn't know where, when, how, and/or if this will happen to her child. The mother decides to proceed and do nothing about this threat and one day her child drowns in this pool. She could've prevented it, but chose not to. She should've taken the threat seriously, but didn't. Who gets blamed? The mother. It's a fact.

Why should this be any different? He's a father figure to us. His job is to protect us; any threat is still a threat, no matter how big or small it is.

[JasonAkAWolf]

what I wanna know is why the hell do you blame bush for?

[*CrackedRearView*]

OK, let me put it this way. There is a mother, a toddler and a swimming pool. The mother knows that the swimming pool is a threat for her child's well being but still decides to do nothing about it. She's been warned and aware of what could happen, but doesn't know where, when, how, and/or if this will happen to her child. The mother decides to proceed and do nothing about this threat and one day her child drowns in this pool. She could've prevented it, but chose not to. She should've taken the threat seriously, but didn't. Who gets blamed? The mother. It's a fact.

Why should this be any different? He's a father figure to us. His job is to protect us; any threat is still a threat, no matter how big or small it is.

So, wait, wait, wait, let me get this correct here...

You wanted Bush to pre-expose the airplane industry to the rigorous safety standards they have now, PRE-9/11?!

EXCUSE ME?!

I could go on for pages, and pages about the different varieties of attacks that could have possibly happened...

Hijacking a plane would be the last one I would consider...

[ComradeRed]

It depends on the likelihood of the threat. Could any of us imagined on Sept 10th that they would fly airplanes into buildings?

It was Al-Qaeda's fault and only their fault.

[Spirited Away]

OK, let me put it this way. There is a mother, a toddler and a swimming pool. The mother knows that the swimming pool is a threat for her child's well being but still decides to do nothing about it. She's been warned and aware of what could happen, but doesn't know where, when, how, and/or if this will happen to her child. The mother decides to proceed and do nothing about this threat and one day her child drowns in this pool. She could've prevented it, but chose not to. She should've taken the threat seriously, but didn't. Who gets blamed? The mother. It's a fact.

Why should this be any different? He's a father figure to us. His job is to protect us; any threat is still a threat, no matter how big or small it is.

Yes the mother gets blamed, however, lets rewind the whole story.

Lets say that the mother knows about the possible threat and DID take precautions by not letting her child travel anywhere without her and baby the child all the time to prevent a certain death.

Lets state the obvious so that we can better proceed: the American people VALUES their independence and privacy. Even after 9/11, there were people griping and groaning when they were checked extra carefully at airports. People had problems with the extra security even though they KNOW why such precaution measures are enforced. Imagine with me then, a United States where 9/11 is but a mere possibility and hasn't happened. Then imagine with me a President who goes into office and take all the precautions as if 9/11 will happen.

First, I'll tell you now that the President will be thought of as crazy since Americans would never have imagined that the US will be attacked so brutally by any enemy out of the blue. It's just isn't plausible (and of course now we know better). Second, the American people will feel as if they are placed under house arrest, or something like it. After all, no one likes so many restrictions placed on travel or doing things that they need/want. And third, who would want to live under a constant state of fear?

The mother of the child must live her life thinking that something will happen to the child and baby him instead of educating him of the ways to survive. Likewise, if the government tells the people of this nation that there'll also be a chance of an attack, many people will live in constant fear (remember that there were so many people who went for psychological help after 9/11 out of fear).

We cannot have predicted 9/11. Intelligence agencies may have been able to detect the dangers but it was THEIR FLAW that resulted in the tragedy.

And even if the mother knew of such dangers, what can she do? Tell me. Will she forbid her child to swim forever? What about in the case the child was kidnapped or threatened by a shady character? What should the mother do? Forbid her child to ever leave the house?

[strice]

we do live in a constant state of fear, thats how bush governs. yes it's true we could not have truly prevented or foreseen it, but the house of bush did not even bother to inform the general public of such a threat or really do much at all. i did not expect them to shove us all in little boxes, but the american people deserve to know when they're in danger. also, it's likely that they did want it to happen (The following is all from frontline, which is quite reputable). Bush had always wanted to go to iraq because he felt his father wasn't "tough enough" on saddam. on the night of 9/11 rumsfield that this was a good chance to invade iraq.

[Spirited Away]

we do live in a constant state of fear, thats how bush governs. yes it's true we could not have truly prevented or foreseen it, but the house of bush did not even bother to inform the general public of such a threat or really do much at all. i did not expect them to shove us all in little boxes, but the american people deserve to know when they're in danger. also, it's likely that they did want it to happen (The following is all from frontline, which is quite reputable). Bush had always wanted to go to iraq because he felt his father wasn't "tough enough" on saddam. on the night of 9/11 rumsfield that this was a good chance to invade iraq.

Do not generalize me into the category of living in constant fear and I'm sure others will feel the same. People can choose to live in fear or not to and if the governement makes people live in fear by spreading "what ifs", then there will be more fear.

Inform the general public you say? Inform us of what? That there will be an attack? Remember that I said people will not like to be threatened without cause. Who would have believed that some blood thirsty maniac would want to attack this nation without any valid proofs? If the CIA had "warned" the public people will think that it was just a ploy to opress or take away their privacy and refuse to do it, or at least do it but hold a grudge.

The media is doubted because some of the things they say do not have evidence. If the government were to do that and 9/11 didn't happen, then the people will doubt the government even more.

[strice]

i'm sorry if you felt i lumped you with the general american public, but it's true that most of people afraid of getting bombed and what not. i refuse to worry about getting anthrax in the mail or whatever rubbish i'm fed by the media, who is in turn oppressed by the political climate imposed by bush. as NPR said, "news is no longer news; you turn it on to confirm what you already know."

osama bin laden was already quite well recognised as a crazy bastard, with the bombing of that ship and various other unpleasantries. it would make little difference if people thought it was a way to suppress privacy now, since that is exactly what is happening.

[inlonelinessidie]

Hijacking a plane would be the last one I would consider...

You probably would have considered it if there was a briefing on it pre 9/11? I mean I know I would.

An excerpt from this article taken from the CNN.com website:

President Bush's daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner

[lucky_clover]

osama?

[Spirited Away]

i'm sorry if you felt i lumped you with the general american public, but it's true that most of people afraid of getting bombed and what not. i refuse to worry about getting anthrax in the mail or whatever  rubbish i'm fed by the media, who is in turn oppressed by the political climate imposed by bush. as NPR said, "news is no longer news; you turn it on to confirm what you already know."

osama bin laden was already quite well recognised as a crazy bastard, with the bombing of that ship and various other unpleasantries. it would make little difference if people thought it was a way to suppress privacy now, since that is exactly what is happening.

There are many recognized crazy bastards all over the world and there are also unrecognized ones. Would you have guessed that any one of them would attack? I didn't, but I do not dare to disregard the possibility of it either and I think you can agree with me somewhat on this.

If there is such oppression in the media, then it will be general knowledge to ignore what's being said in the news opinion wise and we can just focus on events, which we should be focusing on in the first place. I'm sure you have many different sources for news, do you think that all of them are corrupted? I sometimes browse through European news and sites (such as British and French news) and read American as well as Vietnamese newspapers to get my news and form my opinions based on these different sources. We are NOT limitted to CNN, Fox, NBC, MSN... etc.

An excerpt from this article taken from the CNN.com website:


President Bush's daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner

We get threats ALL the time. Remember the trend of bomb threats in school after Columbine? I was in PE class (high school) when there was an emergency evac because some idiot sent the principle a bomb threat email. Of course nothing happened, but then there were bomb threats following that one, and nothing happened. The news reported that several schools received bomb threats as a joke.

The excerpt said that the President was warned that there was a possibility of a hijacking. He should have taken it seriously, yes, but what then? Could he have prevented it, you think? The article also CONTINUES that "the officials said, there was no speculation about the use of an airplane itself as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort".

Also, the same article says that Bush DID TAKE PRECAUTIONS:
"It was in May 2001, for example, that Bush asked Vice President Dick Cheney to lead an administration task force to assess the country's counter-terrorism effort."

What more can he do but to assess the situation? What CAN he do without "specific, credible information"?

[ComradeRed]

According to University of Michigan researcher Micaehl Sivak, your chance of being killed by a terrorist attack on any given day is about 1 in 2.6 billion. To compare, your chance of being killed on a rural interstate highway is 1 in 2.6 billion for every 80 yards you drive.

However, delaying airline passengers has cost the economy $20 billion a year, plus the secret police's new $30 billion budget.

So we are spending $50 billion a yearm not to mention what we are doing in other countries, to stop what is really a miniscule chance of death, is the way that the terrorists are winning -- by causing massive disruption.

Whenever someone drives 80 yards on the Ohio Interstate, we don't spend $50 billion trying to make that 80 yards safer -- and for good reason. It's the same deal with terrorism.

Also, remember the dirty bomb? Leading American nuclear engineers say that the dirty bomb would have achieved a result of ... increasing normal background radiation by 25%. The nuclear engineers advise that, if someone sets off a dirty bomb within eye's view of you, you should just calmly walk away.

WMDs are also not a threat. Chemical weapons only work well in gas chambers, and biological weapons rarely work at all. The British military, in 1993, concluded that in wartime situations, it would take one ton of sarin nerve gas to kill one person. By contrast if one ton of sarin nerve gas were detonated in the middle of New York City, the estimated fatalities would be between 300 and 800.

Of course, one ton of sarin gas means setting off at least 200 bombs simulatenously, which the American SpecOps would have trouble doing, let alone Al-Qaeda.

Since 1969, when the state department has begun keeping official count, fewer Americnas have died from terrorism than from lightning.

And remember, lightning never strikes the same way twice.

[*Weird addiction*]

BUSH!!

[*Statistik*]

Why Bush? He had plans u know to protect the world trade center..it's not his fault..he did everything he could to stop the terrorism..it was actually osama's. he had the idea to crash it. so he did it. period.

[PinkTrash]

osama cause he did it.. and bush for being an idiot and most of all the security in places.
terrorists got a 2 dollar knife from the store, and shoke the world up. while the security there costs 2billion dollars a year, to protect everyone.

[PingPong]

osama cause he did it.. and bush for being an idiot and most of all the security in places.
terrorists got a 2 dollar knife from the store, and shoke the world up. while the security there costs 2billion dollars a year, to protect everyone.

u cant blame bush...

u cant expect him to do everything.. cuz one.. it was too early for bush to change anything at the time.. watever cliton put after the election was still on.. like protection or watever...

JW.. y did osama attack us anyways? didnt we help then n paied for then to fight the russians? hmm.. maybe i know,. but its hard to explain..

[islandkiss]

it's proved that saddam had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack, well, so far. the government has been trying to link him to the attack in the past 3 yrs, but there's no luck


osama did it.

[inlonelinessidie]

Look Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban killed people. But we didn't do all we could to protect our country.

Read and tell me if we did. Here are some excerpts too:

For months after the attacks, Bush administration officials maintained there was no indication terrorists were considering suicide hijackings. But the report said the FAA's Office of Civil Aviation Security officially considered such a possibility as early as March 1998.

The panel's finding follows earlier disclosure of a 1999 report prepared for the National Intelligence Council that warned of suicide hijackings.

The commission report acknowledged there was no specific intelligence indicating suicide hijackings would occur but said the FAA still had a responsibility to protect the flying public against such a threat.

On Monday, the first day of a two-day public hearing, the commission said U.S. authorities missed some obvious signs that might have prevented some of the September 11 hijackers from entering the country.

Government officials have said the 19 hijackers entered the country legally, but the panel said its investigation found at least two and as many as eight had fraudulent visas. The commission also found examples in which U.S. officials had contact with the hijackers but failed to adequately investigate suspicious behavior.

And Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, believed to be the mastermind of the September 11 attacks, exploited the fact that customs officers did not routinely collect fingerprints to obtain a visa, even though federal authorities in New York indicted him in 1996 for his role in earlier terrorist plots. He never entered the country and was apprehended after the attacks.

[ComradeRed]

It's Barack Obama's fault.

Alan Keyes '04 (yeah, right)

[PingPong]

u really trust cnn? wow.. haha

[inlonelinessidie]

u really trust cnn? wow.. haha

What do you trust . . . Fox?

[PingPong]

duh
how did u know? lol

but.. err i dont have that channel

[inlonelinessidie]

^^ Lucky guess.

[cornflakes]

We get threats ALL the time. Remember the trend of bomb threats in school after Columbine? I was in PE class (high school) when there was an emergency evac because some idiot sent the principle a bomb threat email. Of course nothing happened, but then there were bomb threats following that one, and nothing happened. The news reported that several schools received bomb threats as a joke.

Well... shouldn't we always respond to protect American citizens? It is there job. You're also talking about school bombing threats...not a major scale TERRORIST attack.

[cornflakes]

u cant blame bush...

u cant expect him to do everything.. cuz one.. it was too early for bush to change anything at the time.. watever cliton put after the election was still on.. like protection or watever...

1. Oh yea... it's not like Bush's job is to protect America.
2. Yea, I mean as if almost a year wasn't enough. Or... was it because Bush drained the budget surplus?... Gee golly I don't know.

I'm sorry... do you need some ointment for that burn?

[Spirited Away]

Well... shouldn't we always respond to protect American citizens? It is there job. You're also talking about school bombing threats...not a major scale TERRORIST attack.

Uh, yea, if you were to read into CONTEXT, you would've understand the analogy, but I'll explain. Ever heard of the story "The Boy who Cried Wolf"? Well, what I was getting at was something similar.

I agree that threats should be taken seriously, but how seriously? As in, Americans are already griping about losing their privacy and freedom to certain laws/policies after 9/11, what makes you think that the American people as a whole will agree to losing more freedom and privacy for the sake of their safety?

Me? I don't have much of a problem with it so long as it doesn't interfere much with my life. But since I'm only a college student, I don't have much of a life quite yet. Imagine business travelers who venture around the world having a problem with such policies. Not to say that they're (businesses) more important than the rest of us, but they do have more market power and more power as constituents than the average Joe.

Anyway, back to my point with "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". My school wasn't as responsive to the latter bomb threats as it was to the first and other schools acted the same way. In the story, the boy lied and lied to have his fun but not realizing that one day he will actually needs help. Similarly, one day, a bomb threat will be a serious one, but because there were so many hoax, what do you expect the schools to do? Operate EVERYDAY as if they were going to be bombed?

By the by, schools IS ONLY a smaller, BUT VERY ACCURATE, similation of our nation. Meaning, in my analogy, the smaller picture very well describes the bigger picture. The lives of the school children are just as important as the lives of the American people as a whole. Do you disagree with me?

So, sorry for the long explanation. I feel that it wasn't needed, but since you asked...

[*kryogenix*]

I hate how people say Bush drained the surplus. The recession started during Clinton's term, after the internet bubble burst when people realized they overreacted to Y2K and lots of computer related jobs were lost. Next, 9/11 screwed up the economy even further. To say that Bush depleted the surplus would be completely untrue.

[*tweeak*]

what do you mean? what do most people think? or what do i think? or what is the most widely accepted opinion at the moment?

well, all of those would be answered osama, so that would be my answer, i guess

[*tweeak*]

whoops i hate the last post and didnt realize it- didnt mean to double post

read the guidelines- NO polls allowed in debate forum!

[sammi rules you]

to those who are saying bush should have told us there was a threat:
what good would that do? would that have stopped 9/11? cause if it would, then by all means, i blame him too.

[*xcaitlinx*]

osama bin laden and president bush [administration]. yet in polls half of the united states citizens believe that saddam hussein was the one responsible for attacking us on 9/11. hmmmm ... i wonder why? false information from bush *cough cough*

[*xcaitlinx*]

Why Bush? He had plans u know to protect the world trade center..it's not his fault..he did everything he could to stop the terrorism..it was actually osama's. he had the idea to crash it. so he did it. period.

waiting 7 minutes after being informed that the U.S. was being under attacked to do anything does not count as trying to protect us.

[Rachel]

Your mom.


if you really wanted to know, do some research its not that hard.

[Spirited Away]

waiting 7 minutes after being informed that the U.S. was being under attacked to do anything does not count as trying to protect us.

...

So you rather someone act without thinking things over?

Yea...

[ArtificialBlonde]

HHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Was there a conspiracy by the Bush Administration that the American people know nothing about? All of a sudden people are blaming 9/11 on Bush.

This is the most RIDICULOUS thing I've heard thus far in this political rabble. Please tell me that you people are kidding.

Even though Bush hasn't done much in your eyes, I can't fathom how the one thing you believe he could have done was causing 9/11. How the hell do you think he managed that?

And Jason, if you don't know much about 9/11 attack, then maybe you should research. Read some old news article and form your own opinions about what happened. The worse you can do by reading old news is learn something, so why not read? Hearsay and forming your opinions from hearsay isn't the best way to learn.

i completely agree with you..bush just happened to be president when the attack happened..and believe me our country would be in a worse state if it weren't for what bush has done for this country..

that is all..

[pandamonium]

completely agree with you..bush just happened to be president when the attack happened..and believe me our country would be in a worse state if it weren't for what bush has done for this country..

that is all..

yea.

but i really hope nothing happens in the next four years like 9/11 that was just horrible. but everything is over and even though i dont like bush i have to get over the fact that he got re-elected. its just life..

[.kyan]

just browsing thru this thread. just my two cents worth.

as a non-american looking in on this, its funny how some people can blame Bush for the terrorist attack. i dont think he wanted it to happen either.

saying all this just makes me think of the adage, biting the hand that feeds you.
not that Bush feeds well, but at least he fed you!

i believe its Osama that should be blamed above all.

and i hope i dont get flamed or what not for my personal comment but i think its also the whole image America gives to others that might lead to this attack.
(am i making sense? pls feel free to rebuke me if i have offended you but BEAR IN MIND its just my personal comment/thinking and i guess you're welcomed to change it.)

[alone in the wor...]

this is depressing memory ..

[stryker76]

I say Osama and the Bush admin. But i also say all the presidental (sp) admins since his first attacks....he should have been watch more carefully as well as our airlines. with the amount of money he has nothing is out of reach for him.

[angel-roh]

osama bin laden is who i blamed for the 9/11 terrorist attack. I don't think it's Saddam Hussein. I have a question is Saddam Hussein dead?

[xquizit]

I have a question is Saddam Hussein dead?

wow. you do live in a hole.

[angel-roh]

well i found out that saddam hussein was found, but did president bush put him into death penatly? that's what i really meant to say hehe^^;;;;;;

[pandamonium]

well i found out that saddam hussein was found, but did president bush put him into death penatly? that's what i really meant to say hehe^^;;;;;;

just shoot me in the face. lol

[angel-roh]

just shoot me in the face. lol 

what do you mean by shoot you in the face -_-;; 뭐라구? if you meant like you didnt get it. i meant to say is saddam hussein still alive in this world or did he get a death penalty from president bush. sorry you guys im just bad at grammars. i still have ESL

[aznxdreamer]

osama. but the president dragged more people into this than necessary

[smthngcrprategrl...]

osama can be blamed because he arranged for the whole attack on the u.s.

hussen i don't know if he can be blamed. the reason we invaded iraq was because after 9/11 the gov. "suspected" that there might be "weapons of mas destruction" in iraq. so yeah. they also said that they suspected that there might be alquida members hiding there but who knows if that's true or not

bush should have been aware of what was going on. he is incharge of our military and homeland security i believe is part of the army.

[smthngcrprategrl...]

well i found out that saddam hussein was found, but did president bush put him into death penatly? that's what i really meant to say hehe^^;;;;;;

my mom made a joke bout that. she said that they probably put him in a plain white room. and the only thing in there was a pic of bush. if ya ask me that is torture.

[Teesa]

Osama, obviously, because there is actual proof..and I also think the Bush Administration should be blamed, not exactly Bush himself, but they should have been a little more aware of what was going on, because this was obviously a huge attack.

[sadolakced acid]

the bush admininstration is great at propoganda (i know it doesn't look like it applies here, but it will)

their propoganda going into the iraqi war was so good that 40% of americans still belive sadamn hussein had weapons of mass distruction, even when our own inspectors said there were none.

osama said, we thought that the towers would only collapse from the crash site up. we didn't think it would be so big.

or something like that. i don't know the right quote.

but anyways: the bush administration is great at propaganda. how do we know this isn't just more of it?

[xoirene]

Osama.
Bush had nothing to do with it. It's not like he wanted the towers to be destroyed.

[sammehmyst]

Guys, leave Bush alone. He handles it much greater than all of you could most likely.

[*salcha*]

HHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Was there a conspiracy by the Bush Administration that the American people know nothing about? All of a sudden people are blaming 9/11 on Bush.

This is the most RIDICULOUS thing I've heard thus far in this political rabble. Please tell me that you people are kidding.

Even though Bush hasn't done much in your eyes, I can't fathom how the one thing you believe he could have done was causing 9/11. How the hell do you think he managed that?

And Jason, if you don't know much about 9/11 attack, then maybe you should research. Read some old news article and form your own opinions about what happened. The worse you can do by reading old news is learn something, so why not read? Hearsay and forming your opinions from hearsay isn't the best way to learn.

exact;ly what i was about to say as well.

[sadolakced acid]

we have the word of the CIA and bush's admin that it was osama.

we also had the word of the CIA and bush's admin that Iraq was buying yellowcake.


hence the drawing in of Bush.


my point is: osama has not been caught. he has not been tried by a jury of his peers. innocent until proven guilty.

[addiebear]

yea... from another non-american viewpoint.. im sorry but i was crushed to see bush get re-elected [ please remember this is my opinion dont flame me] ... obviously 9/11 was devastating.. it shocked the world.. however.. i dont agree with the invasion of iraq. what the helll was that? you are trying to find osama.. --- hence linking to afghanistan... and al quaeda...

but besides now bush is saying that we need to take an "evil dictator" and get rid of the "regime" why not north korea who once threatened to turn the states into a "sea of fire" , publicly researching WMD... suddam gased the kurds with weapons provided by the americans anyway! .. this whole humanitarian stance.. really.. isnt flying with me...

oh yea.. please persuade your president to reconsider the kyoto protocol.. the states only holds 6% of the worlds population and creats 33% of the carbon dioxide... the atmosphere doesnt belong to america dammit...
im not attacking... im just ... i heard that china was having some kind of difficulty with this too.. soo..

heres a SUBJECTIVE.. essay.... very biased but useful nonetheless.. use it to expand your own opinion...
www.theboywhocriediraq.com

[heyyfrankie]

the only people that i blame are the people that did it. they knew that they were doing something wrong no matter "what their god was telling them to do." but some people blame the muslims and i think that they shouldn't blame the whole religion!

[sweetxsimplicity]

I blame them all.

[misoshiru]

osama, bush, and the bush admin.

[Gypsy Eyes]

how about we just stop blaming people? That's what got us into this mess. Who cares who did it? It happened. maybe if people stopped point fingers "omg he did it he did it!" and just acted things might have turned out differently

[*liquidize*]

my neighbors. (i'm serious)

[xx silhouetted]

osama, bush, and the bush admin.

not necessarily the bush administration. they hadn't been in charge long enough to possibly know. i'd say the blame would fall on the clinton administration even though it happened on bush's watch.

how about we just stop blaming people? That's what got us into this mess. Who cares who did it? It happened. maybe if people stopped point fingers "omg he did it he did it!" and just acted things might have turned out differently

i'd say it matter a great deal seeing that we need to know this information to anticipate a future attack if there is one coming.

saddam hussain has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. america picked the fight with them saying that they supposedly had connection of al queda and had hypothetical unsolicited nukes.

then. 9/11 i guess is not all osama's fault. it's the al queda organization. and partly the inteligence of the US seeing that there was evidence and intelligence hinting at a possible attack of this scale.

-- Ivy

[*xcaitlinx*]

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So you rather someone act without thinking things over?

Yea...

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vrroom vrroom planes + hijacked + crash into two tall buildings + kill people = what to do??!?!!

does it take a rocket scientist to know what the hell to do when this happens? Are there multiple ways to prevent it at that time? But, since it's Bush we're tlaking about here, I guess the guy should've explained it to him liek I did above. The point is, the country is under attack...stop reading a childrens book and GO BE THE PRESIDENT!

heh...its funny...because a week before 9/11...bush was on vacation playing golf and drinkin beer with his buddies

[sammi rules you]

heh...its funny...because a week before 9/11...bush was on vacation playing golf and drinkin beer with his buddies

how is that at all relevant?

[*xcaitlinx*]

how is that at all relevant?

it's not relevant, it's convienent.

[sammi rules you]

...how is it convenient? you mean, a coincedence?

[Spirited Away]

what is there to think over?
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vrroom vrroom planes + hijacked + crash into two tall buildings + kill people = what to do??!?!!

does it take a rocket scientist to know what the hell to do when this happens? Are there multiple ways to prevent it at that time? But, since it's Bush we're tlaking about here, I guess the guy should've explained it to him liek I did above. The point is, the country is under attack...stop reading a childrens book and GO BE THE PRESIDENT!

heh...its funny...because a week before 9/11...bush was on vacation playing golf and drinkin beer with his buddies 

You know what, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to go into office either, so why don't you go for it then tell me how it is? Until then, well, until then I don't think you can say much about how easy it could be to act in a national emergency.

So it's up to one man to stop terrorists... if only we lived that kind of idealistic, Hollywood world.

I can see it now, Bush in a Rambo outift...

[xGlovex]

i hoestly dont know why, but bush i think did. i dont think he deserved the pressure tho, he trys his best.

[*jooleeah*]

heh...its funny...because a week before 9/11...bush was on vacation playing golf and drinkin beer with his buddies 

What? How does that relate to the topic at all?

ooh, i love how people say 9/11 is Bush's fault. the truth is, it isn't. no one could have imagined it. it is al qaeda's fault, osama and the hijackers fault. NOT george bush's fault.

Yes, exactly.

I wish people would realize that the bush administration recieves at least one hundred-if not, one thousand letters per day from people saying that they're going to plan a terrorist attack somewhere. It's not possible for the administration to take each letter seriously and go protect everything and everywhere that's supposedly going to be bombed.

[Azn Kid from NY]

actually, Bush golfing and drinking beer with his friends does relate with the topic....

...a month before 9/11, that idiot bush was handed a memo, and can u guess what the the title was??

"Bin Laden determined to strike in US"

and the memo also had alot of info on al quedas activities and mentioned that they actually planned to hijack planes.....

bush of course, being the idiot that he is, simply dismissed it and went golfing with his friends for the rest of the month....

[*jooleeah*]

Azn Kid from NY Posted Feb 12 2005, 9:30 PM
  actually, Bush golfing and drinking beer with his friends does relate with the topic....

...a month before 9/11, that idiot bush was handed a memo, and can u guess what the the title was??

"Bin Laden determined to strike in US"

and the memo also had alot of info on al quedas activities and mentioned that they actually planned to hijack planes.....

bush of course, being the idiot that he is, simply dismissed it and went golfing with his friends for the rest of the month....

Azn Kid from NY, please read the post that uninspiredfae posted.

The excerpt said that the President was warned that there was a possibility of a hijacking. He should have taken it seriously, yes, but what then? Could he have prevented it, you think? The article also CONTINUES that "the officials said, there was no speculation about the use of an airplane itself as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort".

Also, the same article says that Bush DID TAKE PRECAUTIONS:
"It was in May 2001, for example, that Bush asked Vice President d**k Cheney to lead an administration task force to assess the country's counter-terrorism effort."

[nevernothere]

Eh. Osama. Gotta lay the blame elsewhere.