birth control/contraception Options

[*tweeak*]

im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

[inquisitive_]

In my opinion, if you're not ready to give birth to a child then theres nothing wrong with using birth control/contraception. Its better than having mothers kill their baby because they aren't ready. Or even if a woman doesn't want to have anymore children. I think thats going a little too far with women who use birth control/contraception not being able to receive communion. Thats just crazy.

[swe3ttemptasian]

In my opinion, if you're not ready to give birth to a child then theres nothing wrong with using birth control/contraception. Its better than having mothers kill their baby because they aren't ready. Or even if a woman doesn't want to have anymore children. I think thats going a little too far with women who use birth control/contraception not being able to receive communion. Thats just crazy.

soOoo true

[xHalf nHalf]

my thoughts are if you arent ready to have a child you shouldnt be taking the risk by having sex period. we wouldnt have to worry about women having abortions and all that if people could just practice some self control by just not having sex before marraige. but of course not everybody has the same feelings about this. it is different when a married woman uses these to prevent having more children though. as far as not letting anyone using birth control/contraception take communion, thats just ridiculous...

[Prometheusx]

Our belief is what causes so much indifference in this world. Just look around. We are all separated in this world because of what we believe in. Democrat/Republican...Christian/atheist.... I personally believe it to be okay to use contraception... A lot of ppl these days use because they are not yet ready to have kids. Why would you want that person to have a child when they are not yet ready to have kids? So you ask...Than don't have sex in the first place, right?... But to breed goes along with one of our most primal instincts, so you can't deny yourself of that.

[Heathasm]

that is dumb
some people just take birth controls to stop their periods and cramps, too.....im all for birth control

[*kryogenix*]

In my opinion, if you're not ready to give birth to a child then theres nothing wrong with using birth control/contraception. Its better than having mothers kill their baby because they aren't ready. Or even if a woman doesn't want to have anymore children. I think thats going a little too far with women who use birth control/contraception not being able to receive communion. Thats just crazy.

how about practicing abstinence instead?

[raw_material]

im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

i think it is alright to use birth control and i think its totally wrong what they are trying 2 do....im a christian...and we believe ur not suppose so have sex till u get married...well duh many pple dont last that long...but 4 those who do god says its good 2 have sex when ur married...i kno some pple who are taking birth controls bcuz they dont want kids yet so i dont see nothing wrong with it and im sure God doesnt either...besides you plan on having them later...just my opinion..

[*kryogenix*]

So you ask...Than don't have sex in the first place, right?... But to breed goes along with one of our most primal instincts, so you can't deny yourself of that.

So are you saying if 14 year olds are having instincts to have sex, we should let them?

[mony0407]

i dont think using birth control is wrong. i'm catholic also and i dont think any of the priests at my church would ever say something like that. in my oppinion that is wrong of him and i could never imagine someone doing that. if women don't want to get pregnant thats their choice. i mean married women wear them and what if they already have 6 kids? they can't just keep having them our world would over populate. lol i may be being a little drastick but really thats insane that he said that. like the person who started this said its not killing babies, if anything you could say its preventing a life.. but still theres nothing wrong with it. that'd be like saying using condoms is wrong.

[*kryogenix*]

i dont think using birth control is wrong. i'm catholic also and i dont think any of the priests at my church would ever say something like that. in my oppinion that is wrong of him and i could never imagine someone doing that. if women don't want to get pregnant thats their choice. i mean married women wear them and what if they already have 6 kids? they can't just keep having them our world would over populate. lol i may be being a little drastick but really thats insane that he said that. like the person who started this said its not killing babies, if anything you could say its preventing a life.. but still theres nothing wrong with it. that'd be like saying using condoms is wrong.

why don't they just not have sex?

[*AngelicEyz00*]

why don't they just not have sex?

Not have sex?

That's... just...

Ok. Some people just don't have that... kind of control I guess you could say, to stop having sex, or they just don't wanna stop.

But hey, it's anyone's own personal choice to have sex and it's their own personal choice to use bc.

Oh, and I think your church took it a little too far, Papaya.

[rainnydaiis]

everyone in life one time has to have sex... no reproducing is hell.. i think birth control is ok.. but doesn't always prevent pregnancy... the commercials lie..

[JessJR1022]

that's wrong.... there is no reason not to use birth control. A lot of MARRIED couples who have sex are not ready to have kids.

[gigiopolis]

Um...I think that is absolutely absurd. Like you said, taking birth control before a baby is conceived doesn't make you some sort of killer. You can't kill something that is...er...hasn't even existed yet. That is absolutely ridiculous.

I guess it kind of makes sense that this is your Church talking, since you know, the Bible says no sex before marriage. So I guess birth control means that you're sexually active, which means you're sinning? I mean, it would be much better if you just said: Hey, you can't go around having sex, rather than saying, Hey, you can't take birth control because it might mean you're having sex.

Some girls take birth control to control their period pains. Oh, so now my stomach hurts I can't receive a communion? That is absolute BS to me.

[Edele]

So, are they telling men not to wear condoms because they are stopping the process of birth too? I don't think so. So, why should women not be on the pill? If a woman is not ready to have a child and quite frankly neither is the father she has every right to be on the pill and recieve communion. It's better than having a child grow up with a parent that can't fully support them by themselves or grow up only having a mother or only having a father. Or not having parents at all.

Just my opinion.

[*tweeak*]

Oh, and I think your church took it a little too far, Papaya.

yeah, they definitely did and its because of stuff like that (as well as lots of other stuff) that lots of people are leaving that parrish, including my family

im not at all surprised that no one has disagreed yet, but it doenst make for a very interesting debate...

[DittotoAnne18]

using birth control isnt killing the baby..it was never made.

[melmigs]

How would they know if the person uses birth control or not? Do they ask before giving communion or something? "Do you use birth control?" "No." "Ok, the body of christ." "Amen."

[*tweeak*]

How would they know if the person uses birth control or not? Do they ask before giving communion or something? "Do you use birth control?" "No." "Ok, the body of christ." "Amen."

i dont know, i wasnt there, but i assume that they assumed people would be honest because they were in church...

[kalyps0]

Well that is a bit extreme. Especially for women who are married or something. Sometimes families just cant support having another baby at the time. Does that mean a husband and wife shouldn't be able to have a little fun..I think not! But then people who aren't married should be using it...but I don't think they should be doing it in the first place.

[ComradeRed]

im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

What diocese are you in? Biloxi, Mississippi?

The official stance of the Vatican and the Bishops of America is that brith control, while sinful, is not a mortal sin, and thus women on it can still recieve communion.

[*tweeak*]

um, no, the suburbs of atlanta, georgia

[ComradeRed]

Still the deep south.

What suburb by any chance? Marion? Decatur? I lived in Decatur for about two weeks at one point.

[MeanBastard]

You not used to religion or something? The point of having sex is to create babies. It's God's point for our penis and vagina. We use them to create offspring. TO create more of God's children and bathe them in his heavenly light and find way to God through Jesus. Of course birth control is forbidden. It's disobeying God@

[PinkTrash]

=/
birth control pills are also for other things, like someone said. Some people take themm to reduce their periods. The only thing I find wrong with it is that there are side affections :/

[iEnigma]

im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

Not using birth control is part of the Catholic faith. I think that people are Catholic and can be really strict with the morals of the teachings until something like this comes along, and they "bend the rules" to fit their own desires.

I am atheist.

[sammi rules you]

i think it's fine. of course, i'm not religious. but whatever. do what you want. you don't want a kid, then don't have it.

i'm for abortion too. *shrug*

[ComradeRed]

im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

I'm pretty sure the American Bishops Council has declared that you shouldn't deny baptised Catholics communion under any circumstances...

[*Weird addiction*]

i think using contraception is not bad,it helps!

[flc]

Yeah, I was raised Catholic and I am using birth control.

I have no problem with women using birth control, I mean, it's human nature to want to satisfy sexual urges.

I don't see why people keep wanting to bring new people in this world when there are already children who need taking care of.

[acid_high]

I think that if a woman wants to protect her self then there is no problem. Not only does contraception/birth control help against babies but alsocondoms protaect women and men from stds. Is it wrong if you don't want to get an std. Sometimes i think its easier not to have sex at all

[flc]

I think that if a woman wants to protect her self then there is no problem. Not only does contraception/birth control help against babies but alsocondoms protaect women and men from stds. Is it wrong if you don't want to get an std. Sometimes i think its easier not to have sex at all

Yeah, but I don't think that's really the issue. The issue is that people are against any form of contraception because it stops the end-product of what sex is SUPPOSED to be for - children.

[rAwritsgWeg]

about what kyro said if they are 14.....
i dont think it should matter
doctors are just idiots as smart as they may sopund they are really money hungry idiots
all they care about is if u actually pay for the product not if the product works
and as for religous people i guess you can think what you want but me i think its just doctors to get the last say and stuff

[xoxo_proud]

Birth control/contraception is perfectly fine with me. Having sex isnt just about concieving a baby (its definately a big reason though). It's for pleasure and if the two people having sex are in a relationship it brings them closer together.

I think that if a woman wants to protect her self then there is no problem. Not only does contraception/birth control help against babies but alsocondoms protaect women and men from stds. Is it wrong if you don't want to get an std. Sometimes i think its easier not to have sex at all

It protects but not completely. You could still get an STD but it's a smaller percentage than if you didnt use protection at all.

[*kryogenix*]

Yeah, I was raised Catholic and I am using birth control.

I have no problem with women using birth control, I mean, it's human nature to want to satisfy sexual urges.

I don't see why people keep wanting to bring new people in this world when there are already children who need taking care of.

From the Catholic Catechism

The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).

CCC 2399

I'm pretty sure that the use of contraceptives is a mortal sin (not entirely sure, so please do some research). Those who have commited mortal sin with full knowledge and consent should not receive Holy Communion.

[flc]

I'm pretty sure that the use of contraceptives is a mortal sin (not entirely sure, so please do some research). Those who have commited mortal sin with full knowledge and consent should not receive Holy Communion.

Yeah, but, it is still a sin if you aren't having sex? Cause I'm not..

I only started using it to clear up my acne because nothing else worked for me. I think it's unfair to call me a sinner when I was using it for different reasons.

And I know. I should stop taking communion. I feel guilty whenever I do. I don't even know if I believe in any god, so I don't deserve to take it.

[*kryogenix*]

Yeah, but, it is still a sin if you aren't having sex? Cause I'm not..

And I know. I should stop taking communion. I feel guilty whenever I do. I don't even know if I believe in any god, so I don't deserve to take it.

I'm confused. Why would you need birth control if you're not having sex? I think some people use it for acne. If it's for that purpose, I don't think it's a mortal sin, since you're not trying to impede with the creation of new life.

[flc]

I'm confused. Why would you need birth control if you're not having sex?

Sorry, I edited my post after you quoted me. ^

[Yemmerz]

With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to realize this religion was formed so many years ago. They believed that sperm were little children, which also explains why men aren't allowed to masterbate either.

I personally believe that it's not okay to have sex with like 10 different people. If you believe someone you are with is going to be your husband or wife, go for it. But don't go have sex with the neighborhood hottie (lol). So use contraception, get tested for an STD, and use birth control if necessary.

[*swtcherriipie*]

im catholic and a couple weeks ago at mass the deacon supposedly told all women who were using contraception/birth control not to recieve communion. i think that is going way to far as it is not killing babies because theyre not being concieved to begin with, especially as there is a chance of becoming pregnant even when youre using it.

what is your opinion on it? is using contraception/birth control alright or not?

Tottaly OK. I mean its like you said its really not a matter of "abortion" so your not really sinning. UNLESS your not married but thats a whole other thread Moving on i think thats kind of disrespectful on a part of the deacon. Then again i dont enjoy mass very much.....

[*kryogenix*]

With the whole Catholic perspective, you have to realize this religion was formed so many years ago. They believed that sperm were little children, which also explains why men aren't allowed to masterbate either.

This is a misunderstanding. I don't know if Catholics believed that sperm were little children, but they don't believe so now. However, scientists in the past have believed that cold air causes disease, among other things. Is this to say we are not to trust science anymore?

Also, this doesn't explain why men are not allowed to masturbate. This is the Catholic teaching on masturbation:

CCC 2352

By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."138 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."

Tottaly OK. I mean its like you said its really not a matter of "abortion" so your not really sinning. UNLESS your not married but thats a whole other thread wink.gif Moving on i think thats kind of disrespectful on a part of the deacon. unsure.gif Then again i dont enjoy mass very much.....yawn.gif

It is still against Catholic teaching.

CCC 2370

Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.