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Are we history?, self-explanitory
Saeglopur
post Sep 10 2004, 02:40 PM
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This question was raised in History class today.

Are we history?

If yes, then why?
If no, then why not?
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 05:18 PM
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This second is history. And this one. And this one.

Yes, our history gains a second everytime the clock ticks.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 05:59 PM
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^^ Yup. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Sep 10 2004, 5:18 PM)
This second is history. And this one. And this one.

Yes, our history gains a second everytime the clock ticks.

Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Sep 10 2004, 4:17 PM)
Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?

Both. Why should we "ordinary" people be excluded. We've lived it too. Just because we aren't in the public eye shouldn't make us of no lesser value. People that we know and see everyday can remember us. Thus we are history also.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 06:32 PM
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but our time was MADE up
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 07:26 PM
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well i know we are because of 9/11. im sure one day when i have kids and it asks where was i when it happened i would know. same thing when i asked where my mom was when president kenn. got shot.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 07:31 PM
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I've had a similar topic like this in my US History class.

This is how I perceive things.

History and the past are two different things. History are things that have happened in the past that will control or change how things will happen in the future.

Oh, I scratch my arm 5 seconds ago. That's not history. Eli Whitney introduced to us the idea of interchangeable parts. That's history. Nowadays, a lot of things are made with interchangeable parts like computers and cars.

History also has to be something of importance. Something might not be important to you but may be to somebody else. For example, a soldier writes an account about his life in Iraq. It might not be important to us but years from now, somebody will find it and it will be of interest to them. And that's how we get our history.

I hope that was a good answer for you.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(patrick004 @ Sep 10 2004, 7:31 PM)
I've had a similar topic like this in my US History class.

This is how I perceive things.

History and the past are two different things. History are things that have happened in the past that will control or change how things will happen in the future.

Oh, I scratch my arm 5 seconds ago. That's not history. Eli Whitney introduced to us the idea of interchangeable parts. That's history. Nowadays, a lot of things are made with interchangeable parts like computers and cars.

History also has to be something of importance. Something might not be important to you but may be to somebody else. For example, a soldier writes an account about his life in Iraw. It might not be important to us but years from now, somebody will find it and it will be of interest to them. And that's how we get our history.

I hope that was a good answer for you.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking for.. but also, we are history.

Some of us impact many lives. Wouldn't we be history? Like probably, when we work, it will impact many other people. But really, how do we know if we are history, if we don't know what history means?
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 08:27 PM
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We are history if we benifit the history writers.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 10:14 PM
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History can be applied in a wide variety of ways. If we are talking about the history of the world and what will actually show up in the school books some might argue that we are not history b.c none of our specific names or events of our lives may be there. Personally I believe that we are history. What we do with our lives will impact others and history itself. Think about statistics and how they are recorded. They do polls for a variety of reasons [ex. teen pregnancy, drug use, drop out rate, etc.] They may not list each person's name, BUT the answers they provide definitely add to the bigger picture. Kind of like a domino effect. It starts out with small numbres that turn into a huge statistic that can represent a time period or specific place... and those statistics include everyday people.

You can also apply history towards one persons life... And I'm not talking like Dr. Martin Luther King or Eleanor Roosevelt... For instance, the events that take place in my life may never reach a history book... but that doesn't mean that they don't have an effect or a record like the history of our world. Simply put all history is... is a recording of an event... whether or not it becomes public or well known makes no difference. How it impacts you personally is another thing. So are we history... yes we are.

Did that make sense? I hope it did.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 10:39 PM
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We are history. I could write this whole big huge thing to explain why but I'll keep it short since I'm lazy. laugh.gif

I learned this from American Studies.

You represent American Culture. Every culture has values. Values often disagree. Disagreement leads to change. Change is history.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 10:42 PM
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Yes, but not all history has something to do with the American Culture. mellow.gif
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Sep 10 2004, 10:42 PM)
Yes, but not all history has something to do with the American Culture. mellow.gif

It was an example.
 
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Time is an illusion.. it's all in your head.
 
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yepyep! *nods vigorously*

time is relative, though...
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 12:31 PM
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everything is history lol every second something new happens [/opinion]
 
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post Sep 12 2004, 04:05 PM
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Yeah i agree too, doesnt have to be something significant that happened, anything in the past= history..
 
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mayans predicted teh end of the world is 2008. blink.gif
 
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QUOTE(patrick004 @ Sep 10 2004, 4:31 PM)
History and the past are two different things. History are things that have happened in the past that will control or change how things will happen in the future.

Oh, I scratch my arm 5 seconds ago. That's not history.

Heeeeyyy...not so fast. You think that scratch will not affect the future. Think again.

You're waiting for the street light to change. As you're waiting, you look at your scratch, which has still been hurting since the day you scratched it. You can hear the light change, so you cross the street, still looking at your invisible, hurting scar. Suddenly you feel a strong wind...it's like car is headed straight for you...and there is. In 5 seconds you're dead.

Now does that scratch change your future?

I don't exactly know what you are asking when you're saying "Are we history?" The dictionary definition of history is events that have happened and have been recorded down. Therefore, your journal could be history. I just think that every single thing we do is history, every single action leads to something that can change our future, it's just a matter of sorting out what's important history and what's not so important.
 
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Of course we are part of history. That's exactly what we are, part of history. Some of us have a bigger part than the rest but when you look back on the past civilization as a whole, you are part of that whole. History also depends upon the person living it and how they relay it to the future. We learned in AP US History class that Captain Smith (an early American settler, that you may remember from Pocohantas) wrote a book of his amazing voyages to many lands but the reader has to completely put him or herself in the writer's hands and believe them. You can change the course of history just because you wrote something down wrong, exaggerated, or didn't record it all. In answer to your question, of course we are history. We all are and, just because in 100 years people won't know your name, doesn't mean that you didn't contribute.
 
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QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Sep 10 2004, 5:17 PM)
Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?

Okay I get what you're saying.

We are history, but not as singled out as Bush may be...

We're recognized as a generation.
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(F1R3B4T @ Sep 12 2004, 4:43 PM)
mayans predicted teh end of the world is 2008. blink.gif

You mean 2012?
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Sep 13 2004, 1:40 AM)
Heeeeyyy...not so fast. You think that scratch will not affect the future. Think again.

You're waiting for the street light to change. As you're waiting, you look at your scratch, which has still been hurting since the day you scratched it. You can hear the light change, so you cross the street, still looking at your invisible, hurting scar. Suddenly you feel a strong wind...it's like car is headed straight for you...and there is. In 5 seconds you're dead.

Now does that scratch change your future?

I don't exactly know what you are asking when you're saying "Are we history?" The dictionary definition of history is events that have happened and have been recorded down. Therefore, your journal could be history. I just think that every single thing we do is history, every single action leads to something that can change our future, it's just a matter of sorting out what's important history and what's not so important.

Ummm....no. And we're not playing an IF scenario game. _dry.gif

LOL, I only said scratching my arm. You want me to be more detailed? Alright. I simply scratched my arm, there's no itch. It didn't leave any scar and it didn't hurt. Matter of fact, I only lost a couple of cells.There, happy?

Getting ran over by a car, makes YOU history! MUAHAHAHAHA!
 
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post Sep 13 2004, 10:58 PM
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i think each minute that passed by is history cuz it happened already, but wil ppl remember what happened the last minute that passed? or yesterday? lol it all depends on the person i guess, but i think everyminute that passed is history tongue.gif
 

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