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the morning-after pill, emergency contraception
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post Sep 9 2004, 02:09 PM
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There were several of you who suggessed this alternative to women who were raped or do not want to conceive a child in the "abortion" thread.

Of course, I'm going to make a statement that the pill isn't that great of an alternative (just to keep us entertained).

Yes, its effectiveness as a contraception is almost a sure deal if it is taken as prescribed. However there is one major complication:

The morning-after pill could be viewed as a women's way to safeguard her from getting an unwanted pregnancy, however, it does not, in any way, safeguard her from becoming infected with HIV and other STDs.

Many women are dependent on birth control pills without considering their chances of being infected either with HIV or STDs. Calling the pill "emergency contraception" isn't going to deter most women from using it just as they use any other birth control pills.

So anyway, this is NOT meant to be a pro-choice/pro-life discussion, but strictly your opinions on the morning-after pill.
 
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post Sep 9 2004, 02:18 PM
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So the solution is to prevent rape.
 
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post Sep 9 2004, 02:20 PM
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Wouldn't that be wonderful? happy.gif
 
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post Sep 9 2004, 04:36 PM
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This world is screwed up mad.gif
 
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post Sep 9 2004, 05:08 PM
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That's neat and all... though it wasn't the reply I was looking for in this particular thread happy.gif
 
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post Sep 19 2004, 10:25 PM
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It's a way to prevent unwanted pregnancy.. Everytime I have sex with my girlfriend, afterwards.. she takes a morning after pill just to be safe.. I mean, if you have the pill, it would be moronic not to take it.. especially if you're not wanting to get pregnant.
 
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I would use it still even after I had protected sex. You can never be too careful.
 
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post Sep 20 2004, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Dark Saga @ Sep 19 2004, 10:25 PM)
It's a way to prevent unwanted pregnancy.. Everytime I have sex with my girlfriend, afterwards.. she takes a morning after pill just to be safe.. I mean, if you have the pill, it would be moronic not to take it.. especially if you're not wanting to get pregnant.

It is a way to prevent pregnancy, but you missed one important point of the argument: it does not prevent STDs.

Girls can be too dependent on the pill and do not use proper protection during sex which is a grave mistake seeing how so many diseases are running rampant.
 
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post Sep 20 2004, 05:50 PM
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condoms+birth control pill is 100% baby free so why go and get a morning after pill?
 
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post Sep 20 2004, 08:02 PM
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Okay.. This pill is not meant to prevent STD's. Their is no other way than abstinance to not get STD's. If you do not want STD's, don't sleep around, or get the person you're sleeping with tested. It's only common sense. The most common way STD's are transmitted is from unprotected sex with strangers, and/or one night stands. I speak for myself, but I always use proper protection, and just to be safe.. My girlfriend takes a pill after.. It's just to be extra safe.. You're right, it doesn't prevent STD's, because it wasn't meant to.
 
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QUOTE(Dark Saga @ Sep 20 2004, 8:02 PM)
Okay.. This pill is not meant to prevent STD's. Their is no other way than abstinance to not get STD's. If you do not want STD's, don't sleep around, or get the person you're sleeping with tested. It's only common sense. The most common way STD's are transmitted is from unprotected sex with strangers, and/or one night stands. I speak for myself, but I always use proper protection, and just to be safe.. My girlfriend takes a pill after.. It's just to be extra safe.. You're right, it doesn't prevent STD's, because it wasn't meant to.

happy.gif I still don't think you understand my point...

The pill shouldn't be used too often because it leads to dependency to it. Meaning, girls might feel that so long as they don't get pregnant, they're good to go and forget all about diseases.

Yes... I realize that it wasn't meant to prevent STDs (duh, as I wrote it in the first place), but the point is people can absentmindedly gives credit to what it doesn't do and forgo condoms... etc.
 
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post Sep 21 2004, 08:44 AM
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If you're using condoms and the pill... which I know many people to do, what is the problem?.. You're right, some girls can come depdendant on this pill.. but who are your friends?.. Because I know my sexually active friends know their partners history, granted, not everyone knows.. I see your point, this pill shouldnt be used as a substitution for condoms.. but that's your view.. some people are totally dependant on this pill.. and there is nothing wrong with that..
 
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post Sep 21 2004, 08:59 AM
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I've used the morning after pill once after a "mistake" but I was fully aware that it doesn't protect against STDs so I guess I'm not one of those "many women" you discussed. I always thought that most people knew that it doesn't protect against that but oh well.

By the way, my parter was tested before we became sexually active, so I am 100% sure he doesn't carry any diseases...

I guess the real problem here is that people, especially teenagers, just need to be better educated about the birth control methods so that they may be used more effectively.
 
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QUOTE(Dark Saga @ Sep 21 2004, 8:44 AM)
If you're using condoms and the pill... which I know many people to do, what is the problem?.. You're right, some girls can come depdendant on this pill.. but who are your friends?.. Because I know my sexually active friends know their partners history, granted, not everyone knows..  I see your point, this pill shouldnt be used as a substitution for condoms.. but that's your view.. some people are totally dependant on this pill.. and there is nothing wrong with that..

Why did you wanted to bring my friends into this? Haha, I didn't know the article somehow projected a picture of my real life to you and told you about the kind of friends I have. If so, the the person who made the Death Penalty topic and the Abortion one sure got issues. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, IT IS my view the the pill creates dependency. Too many people these days are fully aware of what's out there, but still pay no heed. Young girls are among these many people. They'd think it's all good if they just use the pill. It's great that you use a condom, but you don't speak for the majority or else there wouldn't be such a problem with STDs.

There IS a problem when people depends on the pill for something it doesn't do, which is preventing STDs. And that's my point. You can say whatever you like about using it and condom, but at least you're responsible enough to know, however, there are plenty of irresponsible people and some who make innocent mistakes.

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I guess the real problem here is that people, especially teenagers, just need to be better educated about the birth control methods so that they may be used more effectively.


That's exactly it. The article and I are addressing the problem of young men and women or teens getting too passionate and forgetting their common sense.
 
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post Sep 21 2004, 11:36 AM
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True... Teens definitely need to be educated on all the methods of birth control/contraceptives available out there. But the thing is that birth control/contraceptive methods are more available to teenagers today than they have ever been to any generation prior. Sex Education and Health classes not only cover the basics, but now include a descriptive lesson on the birth control/contraceptive methods available.

I have to agree with xquizit about the Morning After Pill. Most women know that it doesn't protect you from catching any diseases.

What it is....isn't so much on the availability of birth control. It's available and most of it at low or no cost to teens. It all lays in the hands of those teens to act responsibly. Which unfortunately is only something you can teach not enforce. It is true though... girls are more concerned about not getting pregnant instead of not getting a disease.

I probably veered waaaay off subject but yeah. Teens having sex scrapes a nerve in me. My whole take is that if you are going to do the deed, be responsible and be safe. Don't be stupid when you have so much available to you not to make it that way.
 
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post Sep 21 2004, 02:59 PM
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Your argument isn't valid.. because this pill does not, will not, prevent STD's. If you want to argue something, argue about the girls who don't know what they are doing. Your whole argument, is based on this pill not preventing STD's. Why state the obvious?
 
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post Sep 21 2004, 03:05 PM
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Exactly. People need to more responsible with their sex lives, Know their partner, Etc.
It's damn obvious that the pill is for one reason, And one reason only. The rest (STDs and such) is solely the responsibility of the sexually active parties.
The morning after pill and other birth control methods are great inventions.
If one is too ignorant to acknowledge the fact that STDs cannot be prevented with birth control, Then that person shouldn't be having sex.
 
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post Sep 21 2004, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(MasteRxKiD @ Sep 21 2004, 3:05 PM)
If one is too ignorant to acknowledge the fact that STDs cannot be prevented with birth control, Then that person shouldn't be having sex.

Thank You... at least somebody else knows... I can't stand ignorance, when there is no reason for it.
 
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::applauds::... well put.
 
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QUOTE(Dark Saga @ Sep 21 2004, 2:59 PM)
Your argument isn't valid.. because this pill does not, will not, prevent STD's. If you want to argue something, argue about the girls who don't know what they are doing. Your whole argument, is based on this pill not preventing STD's. Why state the obvious?

This just gets funnier by the post. It seems you can't put two and two together, and you're getting offended with me saying your intimate partner might be dependent on the pill. By no means, am I directing any of this at you, but rather at those who DO depend on the pill.

If you and your partner do not, then why bother with what I'm saying? happy.gif

Now then, let's make my point easier to understand, hmm?

I said that the pill doesn't prevent STDs, this is an obvious thing, however, there are those who are oblivious or even forgetful to this fact. It may be obvious to you, Mr Genius, but not to every other person. If we all have the common sense that you and your partner possess, then there wouldn't be need of of my point.

That means, we're not debating on how irresponsible my friends or I may be (which is totally irrelevant), but on how some young people depends on the pill, not knowing the effects of it.

I hope you understand that now.

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The morning after pill and other birth control methods are great inventions.
If one is too ignorant to acknowledge the fact that STDs cannot be prevented with birth control, Then that person shouldn't be having sex.


I agree that it is a great invention, however, only when it is used for the purpose that it was created.

Wouldn't this be nice if the world were full of educated people? However there are kids who have sex and using the pill as protection. You heard me, they use the pill for protection. I know this is ignorance, but this is what ignorant people think about the pill.
 
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LOL.. You got me, I am offended.. </sarcasm>

This pill has ONE purpose, and ONE purpose only.

Yes, they are using this pill for protection.. which is protection from pregnancy, not STDs. You're right, this world is full of moronic people who are blinded by their ignorance. But ignornace is no excuse. If they are taking this pill, they should KNOW what it's for. Right?

This pill, they are depending on this pill for what?.. STD protection, or protection from pregnancy.. I mean, you would have to be stupid to think this pill prevents STDs.
 
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QUOTE(Dark Saga @ Sep 21 2004, 3:45 PM)
LOL.. You got me, I am offended.. </sarcasm>

This pill has ONE purpose, and ONE purpose only.

Yes, they are using this pill for protection.. which is protection from pregnancy, not STDs. You're right, this world is full of moronic people who are blinded by their ignorance. But ignornace is no excuse. If they are taking this pill, they should KNOW what it's for. Right?

*sigh*, do you only see things one sidedly?

Yes, I fully agree with you that people SHOULD know what it's used for, but the point is many young ones DO NOT or they do not even consider it. Having it is very convenient, and I will not argue otherwise, but I will say that this convenience is taken advantage of in the wrong way.

It's great that you're very educated about the matter, but there are those who are not like you.

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This pill, they are depending on this pill for what?.. STD protection, or protection from pregnancy.. I mean, you would have to be stupid to think this pill prevents STDs.


This is common sense.

When two people have sex, what will make the experience more pleasurable? The pill or the condom?
 
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That's an entirely different subject.

All I am saying is, if you're taking the pill.. they should both know it does not prevent STDs.

And I am sorry if there are people who cannot comprehend that, but they shouldnt be using it, if they don't know what it's for.
 
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QUOTE(Dark Saga @ Sep 21 2004, 3:57 PM)
And I am sorry if there are people who cannot comprehend that, but they shouldnt be using it, if they don't know what it's for.

EXACTLY. They shouldn't be using it, but they are for the wrong reasons, and this was the point of my making this topic.
 
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*sigh* I suppose. I strongly support the use of this pill, not for the protection of STDs, but for protection from pregnancy.

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Then I think people should be educated and have this pounded in to their brains:

CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS DO NOT PREVENT STD'S OR HIV!

The pill's main use is to prevent pregnancy. No one uses the pill to er...prevent STD's. That's what the condom is for.

I have no problem with the morning-after pill. It could solve a whole bunch of problems for people.
 
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too bad it didn't work for your parents.
 
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Jeez what happened to you?
 
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what happened? i was always like this. sorry, that was unneccessary.
 
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I understand what your getting at, but it won't stop people from having un-protected sex, and still use the pill! The best way for the younger generation to wake up is for us older and more experienced people to educate and tell them our own experiences. I had many stuggles with me and my ex-girlfriend getting pregnant. I wanted her to get the pill but she didn't, she wanted to get an abortion I didn't. So getting educated is the best way...I just don't want other people to fall in the same kind of experience I went through. Your young and you shouldn't have to feel like you always have to be careful of everything even though you do have too be careful.

If your not going to be abstanent...then at least use some kind of protection. Like...condoms, bc pills, the patch(for women), or anything. I just don't get sometimes how some people get pregnant when we have all this pregnancy help around us.
 
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Wear a condom AND take the morning after pill...or be on the pill. But keep in mind you have to be on the pill ATLEAST a month in advance before having sex without protection.

That's my suggestion.
 
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latex is woven, it doesn't prevent viruses from passing. it reduces the chance greatly, but there's still the chance.

school can only teach abstinace now under bush's policys. so the teens that have sex aren't having ... err.. relitivly safe sex.
 

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