mac or windows?, choose one Options

[GothpunkGClover]

Windows..Macs are too complicated.

[Viggen]

Macs are too complicated.

I don't get it. The latest Mac OS X is just as easy to use as a Windows machine, more stable than ever since it uses the UNIX platform, and it is by far Apple's best operating system to date.

While I'm running on Windows XP Pro without too much trouble, I would say Mac is better for video and music editing, the Safari web browser is excellent with no pop-ups, no spyware or viruses to cath (which mostly are written for PCs anyway), but anything else is pretty equal.

I want a 12-inch PowerBook however. Best notebook on the market.

[DrNick311]

I have a computer with XP Pro now but I eventually want to switch over to Macs. They have the reputation as the best video/audio editing and graphic design computers out there.

[*kryogenix*]

Neither. Linux PWNS both of them. I don't see how you can find Mac OS complicated at all.

[mai_z]

kudoz kryogenix! Linux pwns!

[Viggen]

Neither. Linux PWNS both of them.

I have yet to touch a Linux computer (since there isn't any pre-built, pre-loaded Linux PCs on the market yet), but what does it have over both Mac and Windows in terms of usability?

I heard Linux has a steeper learning curve than the other two.

[silver-rain]

I don't get it. The latest Mac OS X is just as easy to use as a Windows machine, more stable than ever since it uses the UNIX platform, and it is by far Apple's best operating system to date.

While I'm running on Windows XP Pro without too much trouble, I would say Mac is better for video and music editing, the Safari web browser is excellent with no pop-ups, no spyware or viruses to cath (which mostly are written for PCs anyway), but anything else is pretty equal.

I want a 12-inch PowerBook however. Best notebook on the market.

yeah, i agree- macs are easy to i have a powerbook g4, ands there's not problem. plus- macs usually don't get viruses. and yeah, safari is a good web browser.

[visualfusion]

See... I'd go with Mac... if the mouse had two buttons... how do you Mac people surive with only one mouse button!?!?

[*kryogenix*]

I have yet to touch a Linux computer (since there isn't any pre-built, pre-loaded Linux PCs on the market yet), but what does it have over both Mac and Windows in terms of usability?

I heard Linux has a steeper learning curve than the other two.

It's not as prone to viruses as either one, Millions of programmers have helped with the project and best of all, It's FREE!

[nas]

See... I'd go with Mac... if the mouse had two buttons... how do you Mac people surive with only one mouse button!?!?

I have a two button logitech mouse. Plus with a little scroller thing in the middle. And I have a Mac. I'm surviving pretty well.

[*NatiMarie*]

I like Windows better because they're easy to use. I get all confused with Macs but I have always prefered Windows. Yup...

[Blueiyzboy]

Windows..Macs are too complicated.

LOL! Member when we saw the Windows XP for MAC and how it looked!

I want to slap the computer at school I lose so much because of freezes and also the internet goes slow. I also dont like the layout.

[glit_gal]

i can't really say anything about mac since i've never really used it, but i really luv the features windows has to offer and from what i'm seeing windows seems to be the better one

[tofumonzter]

Give me an apple with a pengiun.

[shawty_redd]

It's not as prone to viruses as either one, Millions of programmers have helped with the project and best of all, It's FREE!

so where would u find the linux programs to download...

i use windows xp and it's not too bad and i have never used a mac or linux so i have no clue which is better...

[*kryogenix*]

so where would u find the linux programs to download...

i use windows xp and it's not too bad and i have never used a mac or linux so i have no clue which is better...

do you mean a Linux distro? linuxiso.org will get you started. Pick a distro, download and burn.

if you mean linux programs, some come bundled with the distro, others you can for free as well, sourceforge is a great place.

[craziplaya21]

windows is so much better if u r an avid gamer

[lpmatt618]

windows is so much better if u r an avid gamer

I agree...


Mac sucks too much to handle games but it has a nice way to upgrade....just pick up throw it out the window and go buy a new one.

[YOWTF]

I prefer Windows better, but it is just as easy to use as a Mac OSX, since (as Viggen mentioned) is better in picture/video editing with no popups in Safari! But I think Windows is less complicated in storage (folders, disk drives, etc.), and I've been using Windows for most of my life and am quite comfortable with it .

[simplysweet259]

definetely windows. =D

[wayne]

windows, moe customizable, and better for gamers. webdesigners should look into mac's tho. mac OS is so easy to use, how can you think its complicated

[sidtam]

I like windows better than mac since there is a lot more software available for it.

[*kryogenix*]

windows is so much better if u r an avid gamer

WineX for linux takes care of that

I agree...


Mac sucks too much to handle games but it has a nice way to upgrade....just pick up throw it out the window and go buy a new one.

HAHAHAHA did you come up with that one? NO. You got it from that anti-mac video.

  windows, moe customizable, and better for gamers. webdesigners should look into mac's tho. mac OS is so easy to use, how can you think its complicated

Believe me, Linux is the most customizable of all. You get to see the source code!

[visualfusion]

Windows and mac? You can't customize ANYTHING on there unless you actually messed with registary stuff and etc. But linux... just change the code, and you're done. =D

[EmeraldKnight]

I've onli vaguely heard of Linux.. Mac's are onli good because they're hardly any viruses for them.. otherwise Window's is a lot more convenient and better too

[koreansaga510]

WIndows Baby!

[*MrMonkeyTaco*]

ive been w/ windows forever..so windows

[JlIaTMK]

windows cuz ive never had a mac before

[Lordofgames]

I love Mac's innovations. There operating system and hardware are superb. But I still use Windows.

[willyam]

windows... cuz iv always been using it

[me_myself_andi20...]

i use a macintosh.... wonderin how manie use macs and how manie us windows or wadever!!

[mystical]

I have Windows, MAC and a Linux machine but i prefer using linux :D I'm usually emulating windows on my linux machine with vmware.

[Heathasm]

Hah, you know i use a crapintosh

[capsule]

i have an imac and windows...both are good, imo. i just wish gunbound would work on the imac....1440x900 = no sidescroll.

[silver-rain]

hmm, i have a mac, and its pretty good.

[FireCrossedAngel]

Windows. It works best for me ^ ^

[cutielilsuga]

i think windows is the best and easy way to use the whole program a think
and i mean even though it doesn't come in a fancy little plastic stuff
i think it is easier then mac

i never tired linux

[aznriceboi]

i got a windows. never tried mac or linux, is it different then mac or linux?

[LiNHy POO]

i have windows! didnt try the others yet.

[KrunkMuzik]

I use Windows XP! . I hate Mac, I don't think you can do as much as with Windows. Windows is better.

[me_myself_andi20...]

well i got a mac laptop and a windows desktop!!! hee.... dont noe how linux works........... like when i need to do windows stuff i use windows! and heather... haha... crapintosh!!! lol.... i noe u use macintosh....

[01-supergirl]

Windows, Mac is complicated, well maybe because I'm use to windows.

[*kryogenix*]

Nux!

[AzN_DuDe01]

i use windows xp....

[inlonelinessidie]

Windows XP here. My bro has two Macs though . . . lucky him.

[Levy2k6]

i got a xp.. if i had to choose something else... Linux for me.

[acidbreeze]

I use WinXP... I don't really like it anymore. I'm looking at a G4 iBook..

[Note]

i have windows.

::jerry::

[me_myself_andi20...]

I use WinXP... I don't really like it anymore. I'm looking at a G4 iBook..

I HAVE A G4 IBOOK! 14 " right?

[waccoon]

Windows > Mac

Windows crashes more, but Mac doesn't leave much for customizability.

[SNAP_Tornado]

windows all the way! macs suck! i never used linux

[Mick3Y]

I like Mac, but im using Window rite now

- Tran -

[MasterNe0]

I would love to have a linux. It a great computer server for online. It fast but a bit hard to use in a way like a mac computer style.

[tofumonzter]

we need more macs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burnoveride]

windows is good ( crap ) , but im a linux fan but there are alot of things you cant do on linux you can do on windows and vise versa but i use alot of apple stuff with my windows so i guess i like my apple/windows OS :)

[LiLEthiopian]

i like windows better..but then again..macs don't get those annoying viruses..

[inthemudhole]

Windows.
Windows.
WINDOWS! <3

[muffin dude 292]

Windows i dont like Mac that much

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

i use windows xp and i think its great i had expirience with a mac and i didnt like it but i gotta admit the music recording on the mac is awesome and about linux never tried it .. anyone have info on it

[jecissa]

MACS ALL THE WAY!!!

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[gothicvengeance]

I like windows better but that's probably because I've stuck with windows my entire life, but I really want to test out a Linux. Macs aren't good for me...no...mostly because I'm not used to them...and the whole one-mouse-button-thing...but it's not their fault, it's my unchangable habits.

[Heathasm]

MACS ALL THE WAY!!!

LOL

i stick with my mac cause i can run xp on digital pc on it as well O_o

[azn_r4pf4n]

Macs are too complicated.

complicated? I used one of them old ones and they're hecka ezy. what makes em so complicated? im stickin wit windows though.

[KissMe2408]

def windows

[mechwarrior1989]

WineX for linux takes care of that

Windows is still better for gaming, if you look at benchmarks, you'll see that with similar graphics cards, you get a heck of a lot more performance in windows than in linux. Plus Nvidia and ATI release new drivers for windows a lot more than for Linux which is one of the reasons why cards run worse on linux.

But in all fairness I'll also post this.

Linux is cool in that you can use it for beowulf clusters, I'm not aware of whether windows can do this or not but beowulf clusters are obviously very attractive for some people since you'd have so much raw computing power at your disposale.

[kris_fox17]

i have a mac, so that's my obvious choice, but i have the best of both worlds since i have "Virtual PC for MAC" just some software used to run window programs. i have it in XP home edition. windows can't run mac programs and they don't come close when it comes to eye candy, not to mention that all the movies you watch today feature a mac computer!!!

[heyyfrankie]

windows. macs are kinda weird to me!

[LeSLiE]

I like windows better. Macs are really confuzing..

[jr0h]

mac is just tidy and neat and pretty. but windows has more pros if you think about it..

[*stephinika*]

windows. macs are annoying.

[faithin_felix]

windows but i like the new imac thing

[kellyannie]

windows..... i've never had a mac

[ZXCVBNMASDF]

windows are obviously better. macs arent really good..

[*mipadi*]

Windows and mac? You can't customize ANYTHING on there unless you actually messed with registary stuff and etc. But linux... just change the code, and you're done. =D

"Just change the code"...you make it sound so simple!

[*mipadi*]

about linux never tried it .. anyone have info on it

Linux-based operating systems are really quite awesome, but the learning curve is steep. It's not like Windows--you really have to get into a different mindset to fully use it. Software is often times not as neatly packaged as it is on Windows, either, and sometimes you have to do something called "compiling" which involves using commands such as this (just to give you a taste of the true Linux experience):

CODE

cp ~/bin/src /tmp
tar xvzf foo.tgz
cd foo
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/foo
make
make install

Yeah...it's not like Windows, where you just double-click on a file to install a program. ;)

However, once you get past the "weirdness" of it, it can be quite nice, although often you have to play with things to make it work. I have a few computers running Linux (an iMac and a custom PC) and I program on an UltraSPARC that runs Solaris, which is a lot like Linux. I really like it, but it takes some time to get used to it.

[Eryi]

I use a Windows. But I want a MAC.

[Eryi]

Windows, but I want a MAC. There are 2 topics of this. -__-.

[ItzOnlySydney]

hm... windows i guess i've never tried a mac so yea...

[levileh]

Macs are more stable...I've never owned one myself though. I just don't like my Windows.

[*kryogenix*]

merging.

[*kryogenix*]

Linux-based operating systems are really quite awesome, but the learning curve is steep. It's not like Windows--you really have to get into a different mindset to fully use it. Software is often times not as neatly packaged as it is on Windows, either, and sometimes you have to do something called "compiling" which involves using commands such as this (just to give you a taste of the true Linux experience):

CODE

cp ~/bin/src /tmp
tar xvzf foo.tgz
cd foo
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/foo
make
make install

Yeah...it's not like Windows, where you just double-click on a file to install a program. ;)

However, once you get past the "weirdness" of it, it can be quite nice, although often you have to play with things to make it work. I have a few computers running Linux (an iMac and a custom PC) and I program on an UltraSPARC that runs Solaris, which is a lot like Linux. I really like it, but it takes some time to get used to it.

It can be a lot like Windows.

http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.2/snapshot11f.png

That's a KDE desktop. It's not that much different now is it?

What distros do you run?

[*mipadi*]

It can be a lot like Windows.

http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.2/snapshot11f.png

That's a KDE desktop. It's not that much different now is it?

What distros do you run?

Well, Linux can be made to look like Windows, certainly, and even behave like Windows in some ways (such as with the use of a desktop environment like GNOME or KDE), but the underlying system is still very different. A perfect example is in the way Linux handles drives: every drive on a Linux machine, from the internal hard drive down to the floppy drive, is mounted under a unified file system. For example, I have an account on a Sun workstation running Solaris (which is a Unix-based OS, like Linux). My home folder, where I store all my files and binary executables, is mounted under that workstation's filesystem; but really, it's on a networked server. In Windows this would appear as a separate networked drive, but in Linux, it's treated as being right there, at my computer. (In fact, in Linux, there are only a few directories that need to be stored locally: /boot, /root, /etc, /bin, and /sbin are the most crucial ones).

Linux also lacks a registry as in Windows (although GNOME has something like the registry, unfortunately), and even handles file permissions differently.

Linux also lacks the unified structure of Windows. Windows has only one desktop environment/window manager: explorer.exe. (Technically you can install other ones, but for all practical purposes, explorer.exe is the only one that is completely compatible.) Linux, on the other hand, has numerous desktop environments: GNOME, KDE, and Xfce are three. It also has myriad window managers: Sawfish (default GNOME window manager), kwm (default KDE window manager), Enlightenment, Fluxbox, and AfterStep, to name but a few. I can even mix and match environments and managers; for instance, I often run GNOME with Enlightenment. Linux can also be run completely from a command line, which is nearly impossible in Windows. (And when logging into my Linux machines remotely, I often do run only with a command line, as it takes a lot of bandwidth to run a GUI session.) In fact, many things that require a GUI in Windows can be done in with the command line in Linux.

As I also noted, Linux software often must be compiled from source code, or is packaged as an RPM that is generally installed via the command line. Software is rarely packaged as a neat GUI installer as it is in Windows. You also often times have to "play" with software, especially drivers, to get them to work in Linux.

There are, of course, a lot of under-the-hood differences in terms of architecture, such as the way memory is handled and files are written to the drives, and how the OS'es recover from errors. Basically, though, Linux can be made to appear like Windows, and if you only play with it a bit, you might not notice a lot of differences; but if you dive deeply into it, you'll notice some big changes.

As far as distros go, I personally use Fedora Core 3 on my main workstation, and Ubuntu Linux on an old iMac (I really don't like Ubuntu, but it's the only decent PowerPC distro I have found). I also often use a Sun UltraSPARC running Solaris, which is similar in nature to Linux (especially since I run Solaris in GNOME, not Sun's yucky Common Desktop Environment).

[JC4P]

Mac panther was good, tiger is too much stuff on screen.
now Linux on the other hand...
Debian = Greatness
Red Hat = really really awesome.
my favorite is linux, and my favorite Distrubiton of Linux is Ubutnu.

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

Windows definately, Mac is okay but it's harder to manage (that's my opinion p_p;)

[*kryogenix*]

Mac panther was good, tiger is too much stuff on screen.
now Linux on the other hand...
Debian = Greatness
Red Hat = really really awesome.
my favorite is linux, and my favorite Distrubiton of Linux is Ubutnu.

Have you tried Kubuntu? Cause if you like KDE more than you like Gnome, Kubuntu is better.

[JC4P]

i tried Kubuntu Two days ago. installed it on my comp, said couldnt install remaining packages, messed up my comp, tried to download them manually didnt work. Re-Installed Ubuntu, And now it says the same thing, so my laptop is dead thanks to Kubuntu.

[*mipadi*]

i tried Kubuntu Two days ago. installed it on my comp, said couldnt install remaining packages, messed up my comp, tried to download them manually didnt work. Re-Installed Ubuntu, And now it says the same thing, so my laptop is dead thanks to Kubuntu.

You should still be able to log in to your Linux account in GNOME, or run it from a terminal, to fix KDE. If you edit your X-Windows config file, you should be able to log into GNOME by default again.

I forget the exact procedure. I remember that Enlightenment creates a .xsession file at the root of your home directory; KDE might do the same, but I can't remember (I don't like KDE much, so I rarely use it). If so, deleting that file should allow you to log in using GNOME by default again. You can find the file by opening a terminal and doing the following:

CODE

cd ~
ls -al

If you see a file called .xsession listed, delete it with this:

CODE

rm -f .xsession

Might work. It works if Enlightenment gets messed up and you need to log into GNOME; don't know if it will work for KDE or not.
You can also take a look at the window manager config files, which should be stored in /etc by default:

CODE

cd /etc
cat gdm.conf
cat kwm.conf

[waitwaitwait]

Windows XP is better.

[JC4P]

You should still be able to log in to your Linux account in GNOME, or run it from a terminal, to fix KDE. If you edit your X-Windows config file, you should be able to log into GNOME by default again.

Your like god with 40 posts. I'll try this becuase my computer is KILLING ME. i even put in a live CD and formated it and it still said same thing, ok trying it now, thanks

[thorn_hailweb]

mac even though everyone hates them. they may be foreign to a lot of people but thats because people are use to figuring out the stupid ways of PCs and when they go to macs they're confused at the simple minded way it works : )

thats right.

[*kryogenix*]

mac even though everyone hates them. they may be foreign to a lot of people but thats because people are use to figuring out the stupid ways of PCs and when they go to macs they're confused at the simple minded way it works : )

thats right.

this is why people don't try macs. because of elitists like you.

YOU ARE NOT BETTER BECAUSE YOU USE A MAC. END OF STORY.

plus, you have a one button mouse. so take that :p

go linux.

[*mipadi*]

this is why people don't try macs. because of elitists like you.

YOU ARE NOT BETTER BECAUSE YOU USE A MAC. END OF STORY.

plus, you have a one button mouse. so take that :p

go linux.

That's kind of harsh. I don't think she was saying she was better than anyone because she used a Mac. She was just noting that a lot of things are simpler and more intuitive in the Mac OS.

Besides, if you think that's elitist, you should listen to some Linux users talk.

[*kryogenix*]

That's kind of harsh. I don't think she was saying she was better than anyone because she used a Mac. She was just noting that a lot of things are simpler and more intuitive in the Mac OS.

Besides, if you think that's elitist, you should listen to some Linux users talk. 

I'm a member of Slashdot, I know how elitist some linux/bsd users can be. In fact, when I was first learning about linux, i was treated pretty harshly by some of the people on various #linux channels.

That was pretty elitist sounding to me. She called the PC stupid, implying that PC users are stupid for using a stupid architecture and being unable to use a "simple" interface.

Pretty patronizing to me.

[sadolakced acid]

i use windows... because that's what i have...

hmm... i wonder.. if my dad will let me instal linux on an old computer...

i think the main thing is compatablilty. as long as windows still comes standard on most computers, and developers develop on windows (then port to otheres)(i'm talking popular, sold in store programs, not the sourceforge ones, which are undoubtably good. )

personally, i want to see a program and a comptuer that can handle all three OSes on it, by fooling each into thinking they're a separate computer... and such...

[*mipadi*]

I'm a member of Slashdot, I know how elitist some linux/bsd users can be. In fact, when I was first learning about linux, i was treated pretty harshly by some of the people on various #linux channels.

That was pretty elitist sounding to me. She called the PC stupid, implying that PC users are stupid for using a stupid architecture and being unable to use a "simple" interface.

Pretty patronizing to me.

Meh...I think you're taking her personal opinion a bit too personally.

[DreamChaser]

windows xp :)

[kellee91]

i dont really care which one.... they both do the same sorta thing i guess.....
i have a windows...but at skool they have mac...
i like the mac layout beta tho...its more high tech n shit....but windows has more choice of layouts....

[moomoognu]

I'm sure about 99% of the people in this forum are unqualified to say what operating system is better than which.

Even though, I agree with you, Kryogenix, I prefer Macs over anything. There are many Mac elitists out there, that's for sure. But then again, there's elitists for every OS and just about everything else in the world.

Linux is a close second in my eyes, followed by FreeBSD.

Windows is somewhere at the bottom.

personally, i want to see a program and a comptuer that can handle all three OSes on it, by fooling each into thinking they're a separate computer... and such...

It's quite possible to have multiple operating systems on one computer. Simply set up more partitions or install more hard drives in your box.

[medic]

Anyone is qualified to say what operating system is better, there the consumers of them - there the only ones that keep the companys going.

Plus, why so many partitions, your only going to slow that PCs HD down, and I dought you could put a Mac OS on a PC built for Windows or Linux, I would like to see it done.

[*mipadi*]

and I dought you could put a Mac OS on a PC built for Windows or Linux, I would like to see it done.

It could be possible. OS X runs on Intel processors, so with a bit of code hacking, it might be entirely possible to get Windows, OS X, and some flavor of Linux to run on the same machine. Difficult, but not impossible.