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post Aug 18 2004, 11:45 AM
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Is there any? He's been all talk, and his record in Senate is disputable...
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 12:07 PM
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he is a great poker player. straight faced liar.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 12:08 PM
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All talk, yes but he isn't President yet so there is no definite way in knowing what he would do. I think all candidates give out false promises, it's a sure thing.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 12:10 PM
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he has given more than one false promise, i mean he lies about one thing and then lies about another thing on the same subject. he has a great poker face. i just watched his newest speech.
 
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[SIZE=1]he's just plain lame, and it's true that he lies.. ALL THE TIME. i still can't see him fulfilling all his promises without some hidden intention in the whole deal. call me hateful but i just don't like him.
 
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QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 18 2004, 11:45 AM)
Is there any? He's been all talk, and his record in Senate is disputable...

There is none. But the problem is that many, if not most, people regard Bush has more bad then good. 0>bad. Recent polls show that almost half of Kerry supporters only support Kerry because they dislike Bush more.

What good was there in Bill Clinton in 1992? Absolutely none ... but he still won, because Bush Senior had more bad in him than good. (also because of Perot).
 
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Niether Bush had more bad in him than good. it was because they had more good in them than bad. and clinton was an awesome liar.
 
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 18 2004, 12:48 PM)
There is none. But the problem is that many, if not most, people regard Bush has more bad then good. 0>bad. Recent polls show that almost half of Kerry supporters only support Kerry because they dislike Bush more.

What good was there in Bill Clinton in 1992? Absolutely none ... but he still won, because Bush Senior had more bad in him than good. (also because of Perot).

flowers.gif My hero!

Even though I don't agree with you sometimes (mainly because I don't understand)... but this the most logical thing said about the topic of Bush and Kerry thus far!!!
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:31 PM
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Kerry: He's not Bush

I think that's probably why I like kerry more.
I don't really like any politicians.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:32 PM
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what is wrong with Bush?
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:34 PM
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He's an idiotic hick.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:35 PM
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because that is what you heard but you have never talked to him. He went to yehle BTW.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:39 PM
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Yehle? Where is that?

Lol funny story: I saw this posting once, "'Why I really want to go to Harfurd (sp??)' is not a legitimate college essay topic."
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:45 PM
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It's Yale, and Harvard.

What do grades prove about intelligence? And if Dubya's intelligence isn't enough for you, he screwed over the country.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 01:47 PM
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yehle ha ha i was watchin tv. he didnt screw over the country. look at it. screw free.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 04:52 PM
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Screw free? 47% taxation, $2 trillion of debt, laws that let the police arrest you without having a reason? Sounds like pretty screwed up to me.
 
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Hmm...I don't see any good in Kerry. mellow.gif
 
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Minda -- you forgot decisive action on 9.11, an average of $600.00 returns come January, the tenacious throwdown of partial-birth abortion...
 
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QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 1:31 PM)
Kerry: He's not Bush

I think that's probably why I like kerry more.
I don't really like any politicians.

same herre. kerry is the lesser of 3 evils (encluding nader.)
 
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all we can rely on are promises. we relied on bush wen he said there were WMD but nope there wernt any. and we relied on him when he said that there were programs of mass detructiong but nope none. i also do not support killing 10,000 innocent people.
 
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post Aug 19 2004, 07:18 AM
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Nader is better than Kerry. He at least has integrity. I totally disagree with most of his politics, but if he were president, he wouldn't get anything done because of Congress -- which is good.
 
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Nader is better than Kerry. He at least has integrity. I totally disagree with most of his politics, but if he were president, he wouldn't get anything done because of Congress -- which is good.

Haha how true is that? tongue.gif
 
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Recent polls show that almost half of Kerry supporters only support Kerry because they dislike Bush more.

well hey, thats how it works!
 
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post Aug 19 2004, 11:34 PM
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but theres no way anyone's voting for nader. bush is even helping nader out in hopes that he takes votes away from kerry.
 
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but theres no way anyone's voting for nader. bush is even helping nader out in hopes that he takes votes away from kerry.

Either way, Kerry's trying to kick poor Nader out of the race. He's only supposed to show up on like four states' ballots. mellow.gif What a guy.
 
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Did anyone watch that Daily Show episode with that clip they made "John Kerry: He's not George W. Bush"? It's fricking hilarious.

Because I'm nice:
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thed...withjonstewart/
 
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Aug 20 2004, 7:43 AM)
Either way, Kerry's trying to kick poor Nader out of the race. He's only supposed to show up on like four states' ballots. mellow.gif What a guy.

That's not Kerry's fault. To get on to a state's ballots, you have to get a certain number of signatures first (In Pennsylvania it is 40,000). Nader has no party behind him, so he wasn't able to get all those signatures.
 
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That's not Kerry's fault. To get on to a state's ballots, you have to get a certain number of signatures first (In Pennsylvania it is 40,000). Nader has no party behind him, so he wasn't able to get all those signatures.

How do you know there's no conspiracy behind it all? Hmm? Perhaps Kerry payed off half the country so they wouldn't sign for him. mellow.gif I mean, he has enough money. rolleyes.gif
 
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So does Bush...

If you paid everyone in America $20, that would set you back a good $6 billion. Compare that to Kerry's campaign budget of $100 million.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 1:31 PM)
Kerry: He's not Bush

I think that's probably why I like kerry more.
I don't really like any politicians.

same here...and yea Bush is an idiotic hick...not to mention a cheating liar **coughGORE WON FLcough** who only cares about his own money, his daddy's money, and the money of the people who give him and his daddy money

by the way Mr. "Peace President" where are those Weapons Of Mass Destruction huh? did u forget about them when u where hangin with the "have" and the "have mores"? or maybe u just got caught up in the WAR u started Mr. "Peace President"!

just because i say i don't support the war doesn't in ANY WAY mean that i don't support our troops!!!
 
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same here...and yea Bush is an idiotic hick...not to mention a cheating liar **coughGORE WON FLcough** who only cares about his own money, his daddy's money, and the money of the people who give him and his daddy money

by the way Mr. "Peace President" where are those Weapons Of Mass Destruction huh? did u forget about them when u where hangin with the "have" and the "have mores"? or maybe u just got caught up in the WAR u started Mr. "Peace President"!

just because i say i don't support the war doesn't in ANY WAY mean that i don't support our troops!!!


That was probably the most unintelligent, unbacked up argument I've read on these forums so far, no offense meant.

Highly_Evolved even does better than that...
 
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QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 20 2004, 10:31 PM)
That was probably the most unintelligent, unbacked up argument I've read on these forums so far, no offense meant.

i totally agree. exactly how old are you JustPeachy? if youre going to post something please at least try to sound a bit more intellegent. i dont even know where to start with that argument..im speechless
 
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QUOTE(JustPeachy @ Aug 20 2004, 8:25 PM)
same here...and yea Bush is an idiotic hick...not to mention a cheating liar  **coughGORE WON FLcough** who only cares about his own money, his daddy's money, and the money of the people who give him and his daddy money

by the way Mr. "Peace President" where are those Weapons Of Mass Destruction huh? did u forget about them when u where hangin with the "have" and the "have mores"? or maybe u just got caught up in the WAR u started Mr. "Peace President"!

just because i say i don't support the war doesn't in ANY WAY mean that i don't support our troops!!!

QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 20 2004, 8:31 PM)
That was probably the most unintelligent, unbacked up argument I've read on these forums so far, no offense meant.

Highly_Evolved even does better than that...

laugh.gif LMAO.

First of all I believe that JustPeachy has been watching Fahrenheit 9/11 too many times. You can't believe everything you see, hear, or read. Where is it that you get your information from? Don't base your opinions on what others say. I don't like Bush either, but I don't go around telling people that he's a hick and only one because of his father.

What's done is done, he's was and maybe will still be the President. All we have to do is wait and see. Kerry is no better and no worse than Bush. Kerry supports the war also . . . didn't you know that? So what makes him any different from Bush. We'd most likely still be in the same place we are now even with Kerry. I don't know about you, but if that seems to be the case I would much rather have the same President that is running now than a new one. I believe he must finish what he has started.
 
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QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 18 2004, 11:45 AM)
Is there any? He's been all talk, and his record in Senate is disputable...

Yeah, John Kerry is right at least half of the time. That's because he keeps switching sides.

QUOTE(John Kerry)
I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, right before I voted against it


So he was right the first time, but changed his answer.

Yeah, and to JustPeachy:

An investigation was launched in Florida and New York and they found out that there were people who registered in two states and they illegally voted in Florida. I think like only 12% voted for Bush, 67% voted for Gore and the rest voted something else. So I don't see how you can make the case that Bush stole Florida, when it was Democrats who broke the law by voting in two states.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 25 2004, 6:55 AM)
An investigation was launched in Florida and New York and they found out that there were people who registered in two states and they illegally voted in Florida. I think like only 12% voted for Bush, 67% voted for Gore and the rest voted something else. So I don't see how you can make the case that Bush stole Florida, when it was Democrats who broke the law by voting in two states.

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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 25 2004, 6:55 AM)
Yeah, John Kerry is right at least half of the time. That's because he keeps switching sides.

That's a better record than most of our presidents
 
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Aug 20 2004, 6:09 PM)
How do you know there's no conspiracy behind it all? Hmm? Perhaps Kerry payed off half the country so they wouldn't sign for him. mellow.gif I mean, he has enough money. rolleyes.gif

Correction. His wife has all the money. I thought he wasn't that rich before he married that sellout.
 
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 1:32 PM)
what is wrong with Bush?

hmmmm. wow.

anyway, kerry is a fvcking moron. bush is a fvcking moron. and nader probably wouldnt be able run a country a lot better than the other two idiots.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 25 2004, 4:01 PM)
Correction. His wife has all the money. I thought he wasn't that rich before he married that sellout.

No, he's rich on his own ... He went sailign with JFK as a kid, has houses in Boston, Newport, etc., and went to all the best prep schools.

MOST of his money comes from his wife, but not all of it.
 
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No, he's rich on his own ... He went sailign with JFK as a kid, has houses in Boston, Newport, etc., and went to all the best prep schools.

MOST of his money comes from his wife, but not all of it.

Then why was he trying to sell himself as "the common man?"
 
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Because he's a hypocrite. Also because Edwards went to public school and his daddy worked in a mill. LOL!

I don't understand why the democrats are so hypocritical this year. If the rallying cry is "Anyone but Bush" why are they picking on Nader? Nader is clearly not Bush, so he'd be someone but Bush, wouldn't he?
 
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No, he's rich on his own ... He went sailign with JFK as a kid, has houses in Boston, Newport, etc., and went to all the best prep schools.


Newport? Where is that?

I lived in Newport Beach, CA.
 
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Newport? Where is that?

I lived in Newport Beach, CA.

rhode island i think.
 
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Yeah, the southern coast of Rhode Island, about 20 minutes south of Providence, a little under an hour from Boston.
 
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http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/080304v1.wmv

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^ i've heard that all before

if somone were to make one of those for bush, showing all the ways he's EFFed up, it would probably be alot longer than 12 minutes.
 
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did anybody see the daily show last night?!?!?!?! Kerry was on it. check this out. it went like this. ther were just talkin about stuff and blah blah... then somthing like this was said:

john stewart: do you flip-flop?
john kerry: yes.

didn't he say he doesn't flip-flop? he's so bad he flip-flips about flip-flopping!

hehehehehehe.
 
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Kerry has nothing good about him, but Bush has a lot bad about him. while they both suck ass, it's a matter of who sucks less. to educated people, that would be kerry.
 
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comradred: I heard on the news (which you can't really trust but whatever) that Nadar is actually backing bush? Maybe I misunderstood, what have you heard?
 
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i have heard that nader is getting republican funds.
 
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Bush is backing Nader, not vice versa.

It's all about getting Nader on the ballot to get votes away form Kerry.
 
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Sep 10 2004, 1:00 PM)
john stewart: do you flip-flop?
john kerry: yes.

didn't he say he doesn't flip-flop? he's so bad he flip-flips about flip-flopping!

hehehehehehe.

LOL! I would rather have Kerry however.


QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 12 2004, 8:53 AM)
Bush is backing Nader, not vice versa.

It's all about getting Nader on the ballot to get votes away form Kerry.

Makes sense.
 
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he shot someone - that takes a lot of courage.
 
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QUOTE(DittotoAnne18 @ Oct 11 2004, 9:32 AM)
he shot someone - that takes a lot of courage.

Bush flew dangerous planes. That takes a little bit of courage as well.
 
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two words. vote nadar. or what not.
 
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Nader is actually not a bad choice. He covers a broad range of opinions and best represnts a cross section of the American people.

He has been endorsed by both the Sierra Club AND American Conservative. It doesn't get much more inclusive than that.
 

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