im not racist..., i just have a color tv! Options

[ghjgfkgfk]

nevermind the topic title...

anyway.
it's okay to be racist...if you're doing it to a white person.

why is 'nigger' more offenstive than 'wigger' or 'cracker'?

have you noticed those 'black shows' show white people as very dumb and stupid. what if it was the other way around? you would have 476583x33 people saying the show is racist.

i don't get it when people say 'PROUD AND BLACK/-insert race here-".
it's just a skin color! why be proud of a skin color?
yuo're race is not something you work for or earn, you are born into it. you can't help it. what's there to be proud of there?

the reason there is a black history month and not a white history month, is because we need more than a month to explain to our children the stupidity of white men.

i'll call someone an african america the day i get call a 'middle eastren american"

This post has been edited by airam: Aug 6 2004, 06:15 PM

[amanduhsayz]

you said the N word...

[*CEP*]

Dont know.
Maybe dem chinks do.
Damn yella bastards.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[ghjgfkgfk]

you said the N word...

?

[*CEP*]

?

She meant " Nigger "

- Chikieeyedpnoi

[juliar]

<<Is not racist.
=]
<<Is Chinese.

[ghjgfkgfk]

She meant " Nigger "

- Chikieeyedpnoi

i know what she meant, i just was confussed on why she had to make it anymore obvious.

[frzn-lilyv]

shes prolly just bein silly or something...

but on ur topic...me dunno, i guess... im flip and my parents find the word "oriental" a bad word for the asians... dunno really... i dont name call neone those racist words other than my close friends or cousins...

[hybrid]

Should we appoint for a history lesson by moi? Hmm; I'll schedule you some other time.

[ghjgfkgfk]

hey? maybe it's because we black people didn't enslave white people and then treat them like shyt after slavery was over..
maybe it's because in the 2000 election black ppl didn't disenfranchise white votes

i can't believe u have the nerve to use the word nigger

you didnt understand what i was saying.
i used the word 'nigger' as an example.

ps. i'm not racist. kthnx.

[jk9286]

You're right. People do tend to get all hype and anxious if there's something like that about african americans. But they think it's funny when people say racist things about white people.

For example, the movie 'white chicks'. What the freak? I wonder what would've happend if someone made a movie called 'black chicks'. lol probably the director and producer would get sued right away.

[CloudUnionX]

Dont get me started. Oh god, dont get me started. Trust me you dont wanna get me started. Cuz if I get starte... I think you get the idea.

[ghjgfkgfk]

Dont get me started. Oh god, dont get me started. Trust me you dont wanna get me started. Cuz if I get starte... I think you get the idea.

get started.

speak up.

[elmogurly]

I think that the we should be courteous to everyone. I mean we can't say things just because their ancestors did something that may have changed history. We just have to stop cracking racist jokes and be the most decent person you can be. That's all there is to it. I sound like a stupid old person, but I don't care.

[sheepy]

um... woooohhh !!! lOL u said the word

[JlIaTMK]

im sorry to burst ur bubble brownsugar but history is history....
its not our fault.... its the enslavors....
we should be sorry but i think its going a little too far now....
other races were slaves also....
for example.... Macedonians (i no its not a race but its a nationality) were slaves to the Turkish for over 500 years yes u heard me.... 500 years.... and whats done is done.... we dont make the turkish paying for it.... for example.... theres this one thing in america that if ur black or mexican.... u get an extra point on ur sat per question.... and the other thing where they hiyer (i dont no how to spell it) blacks over whites or something.... i mean

come on.... thats going a little too far.... whats over with is over with....

I think this should be moved to Debate

[iheartsimba]

your right. rasicm sounds so stupid.

but. people who say they are a "proud -insert race-" they are probably meaning thta as in what there race or country went through back then. and they are proud they are representing there ancestors.

i guess rasism is actually a big deal though if you look at history. because this world was divided by locations and countrys and stuff....so i dunno. i apologize if i made no sense.


oh well..

gotta agree with JlIaTMK though....

[CloudUnionX]

theres this one thing in america that if ur black or mexican.... u get an extra point on ur sat per question...

I really hope your kidding. That really pisses me off.

[diezelbabygrl_xo...]

hey? maybe it's because we black people didn't enslave white people and then treat them like shyt after slavery was over..


i can't believe u have the nerve to use the word nigger

im multicultural so i can safely say im not racist. most ppl dont even know wat tha hell i am. so lets jus sum it up-IM EVERYTHING besides japanaese, vietamese n korean

about tha slavery thing- how r u still gonna pin that on tha white ppl? that happened 2 yur ANCESTORS not u. 2 put it nicely, dont live in tha past. besides did you know that in africa, black people are enslaving other black ppl? and in many other countries 2.


and technically the word "nigger" is a stupid person. not a black person.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

the past is the past, forgive and forget

[F1R3B4T]

yea i dont get why ppl hafta say n*gger...

[whomps]

My friend was at the movies once, and there was this white guy blasting eminem from his car. So she shouted "WIGGER!" and this black dude behind thought she said Nigger. "Damn, times have CHANGED." He got so angry that he left.

`coonstuh

[crazeegirl411]

I guess it's all fair when you add it all up...

[Chaos13]

SHUSH!!!!! wait wah?!?

[ghjgfkgfk]

SHUSH!!!!! wait wah?!?

do your posts always make no sense?


anyway, i don't think most people here got what i was saying.

btw, can we please stop with the, 'OMG U SAID NIGGER!111111" ****, because i used itas an example. no offense.

[T00000]

do your posts always make no sense?


anyway, i don't think most people here got what i was saying.

btw, can we please stop with the, 'OMG U SAID NIGGER!111111" ****, because i used itas an example. no offense.

I think this should be in debate

yes i totally agree with you. TOTALLY. and also, seriously. an eye for an eye never works out now does it? that's what you're trying to achieve. i think, just because of what blacks went through, they think their definition of racism is somehow stricter than whites. well you know what, it ISNT. if you think one thing is racist, you can't just go around doing the same thing to whites. blacks arent the only people that were treated poorly in this country. not only that, they weren't the only people who were enslaved. Have you ever heard of shanghaing? that was big where i lived, in portland. back in the 1800s, people would go into bars, and slip drugs into unsuspecting people's drinks. when they passed out, they'd take the person through a tunnel behind the bar out to the dock on the columbia river, and proceed to ship them over to foriegn countries to work as slaves. and honey, these people were white. But you don't see them running around flipping out because their own kind enslaved them. you don't see us doing that. a lot of the blacks in this country weren't even related to a slave. most of you aren't even suffering from what happened more than a hundred and fourty years ago. you could argue that, because of slavery, blacks have no opportunies blah blah blah BULLSH!T. there's a such thing as the "Hope Scholarship" over here in Georgia, where anyone who has a GPA of above 3.0 can go to any public college they want in this state, all expenses paid. Still, the percentage of blacks actually attending college is low. So seriously, don't blame us. Also, I think we whites put up with a hell of a lot from blacks, given that if we would do the same to them, we'd be called racist.

For example: I had a black friend named Xavier. Every single time we'd critisize him, he'd respond with "It's because I'm black, ISNT IT." So one day at lunch, he looked at this girl named Danielle (who was black,) and was like "I really don't like her. She's so damn annoying and she thinks people actually care about what she has to say." So I simply said "It's because she's black, ISNT IT." Do you know what happened? He was extremely offended.

Now why is this? Blacks just feel entitled to make fun of whoever they come across, if they happen to be white. White guys cant rap, white girls can't dance. According to them. But if you see a black man trying to learn the flute, which is not only a usually not black thing to do, but also a female thing to do, you don't see people giving him a hard time. Employers always have issues firing their employees if the employee happens to be black and the employer, white, for fear of being called RACIST. But the other way around, and there's never a problem. Either blacks need to CHILL OUT, or whites need to stop taking **** from blacks. Blacks have gone through a lot, yes. But they need to understand that with their struggles and hardships, even at the time, much of the united states and our country of whites DIDNT support what was happening to them.

So if you want equality like you said you all do, maybe you should treat whites equally as well. There are some hardcore southern racists who don't treat blacks well, but other than that, I have not met or seen anyone who ever treated a black person the wrong way. I only take in the fact that the person is black, same as I would say She's asian or She's Indian. But when you start making sure everyone saw the difference between the two races and when you want everything to be segregated in thought, that's when you start contradicting the "equality" you want.

[sadolakced acid]

yea, anyone can be racist to whites. but racist to blacks? no way.

[T00000]

wtf..
i wasn't off  topic!
go back a page and read..that still stands

who said you were off topic? for the record, i did read what you said, and my comment/post was directed towards you.

[JlIaTMK]

for all the people tellin me history is history..
he asked why black ppl can make "racist" jokes against white ppl
and white ppl can't..
and i answered..so that ends your side of the conversation..i know history is history, and i can't change that.. im not tryna dwell in the past, that's just how it is
and besides white people CAN make racist jokes..and they do..so what the hell are u talking about?

u no what....
yesterday at the mall....
some black guy came up to me and he was like.... u need to trim ur hair and then he started talking crap to me.... and i thought that was very rude that he said that.... but i didnt say anything..... u no Y?

because of fear that he was going to take it that IM racist.... i dont think thats fair either.... its taking my right of speech away and of self defence

and Tblotz.... I LOVE U
u took the words right out of my mouth....
i couldnt explain it ANY better.... any better

[juliar]

I'll move this to Debate.

[T00000]

erm....my mom was vice president of her corporation the president was black..and then a new boss came in that was white..and ALL the black ppl were fired..im not kidding..every single one of them..tell me there's not something wron with that

some white ppl bring the "white guys can't rap or dance thing upon themselves" and saying playing flute is not a "black thing to do" is stereotypical.
like..most boys play trumpet..a lotta trumpet players are white. but I play trumpet and im a black girl >_> <_< ..
yeah..

first of all, maybe there was a reason why all the blacks were fired. if there wasn't a reason, and if it truly was a racist act, that would be national news and there would be lawsuits up the ass. how does a white person bring the "white people can't rap" onto themselves? is it because they are, in fact, trying to rap when it's a black thing to do? I think you are the one being stereotypical. And i don't think me using the example that blacks don't USUALLY play the flute is stereotypical. I didn't say "Blacks don't play the flute" now did I? Now you seem to think it's okay to stereotype whites and say they cant rap and that they seem to be able to bring it onto themselves (which is sad, because how is trying something different bring that onto themselves?) but I can't say that blacks don't usually play the flute. Which they don't. Unless you can surprise me with some figure showing that black males suddenly play the flute more than any other gender/race, the fact still remains. Black men don't usually play the flute. I don't think you should stereotype whites. You know your race degrades and makes fun of our race all the time, yet you don't seem to be admitting it and you are actually defending it.

[Spirited Away]

I think this should be in debate

yes i totally agree with you.  TOTALLY.  and also, seriously.  an eye for an eye never works out now does it?  that's what you're trying to achieve.  i think, just because of what blacks went through, they think their definition of racism is somehow stricter than whites.  well you know what, it ISNT.  if you think one thing is racist, you can't just go around doing the same thing to whites.  blacks arent the only people that were treated poorly in this country.  not only that, they weren't the only people who were enslaved.  Have you ever heard of shanghaing?  that was big where i lived, in portland.  back in the 1800s, people would go into bars, and slip drugs into unsuspecting people's drinks.  when they passed out, they'd take the person through a tunnel behind the bar out to the dock on the columbia river, and proceed to ship them over to foriegn countries to work as slaves.  and honey, these people were white.  But you don't see them running around flipping out because their own kind enslaved them.  you don't see us doing that.  a lot of the blacks in this country weren't even related to a slave.  most of you aren't even suffering from what happened more than a hundred and fourty years ago.  you could argue that, because of slavery, blacks have no opportunies blah blah blah BULLSH!T.  there's a such thing as the "Hope Scholarship" over here in Georgia, where anyone who has a GPA of above 3.0 can go to any public college they want in this state, all expenses paid.  Still, the percentage of blacks actually attending college is low.  So seriously, don't blame us.  Also, I think we whites put up with a hell of a lot from blacks, given that if we would do the same to them, we'd be called racist. 

For example:  I had a black friend named Xavier.  Every single time we'd critisize him, he'd respond with "It's because I'm black, ISNT IT."  So one day at lunch, he looked at this girl named Danielle (who was black,) and was like "I really don't like her.  She's so damn annoying and she thinks people actually care about what she has to say."  So I simply said "It's because she's black, ISNT IT."  Do you know what happened?  He was extremely offended. 

Now why is this?  Blacks just feel entitled to make fun of whoever they come across, if they happen to be white.  White guys cant rap, white girls can't dance.  According to them.  But if you see a black man trying to learn the flute, which is not only a usually not black thing to do, but also a female thing to do, you don't see people giving him a hard time.  Employers always have issues firing their employees if the employee happens to be black and the employer, white, for fear of being called RACIST.  But the other way around, and there's never a problem.  Either blacks need to CHILL OUT, or whites need to stop taking **** from blacks.  Blacks have gone through a lot, yes.  But they need to understand that with their struggles and hardships, even at the time, much of the united states and our country of whites DIDNT support what was happening to them. 

So if you want equality like you said you all do, maybe you should treat whites equally as well.  There are some hardcore southern racists who don't treat blacks well, but other than that, I have not met or seen anyone who ever treated a black person the wrong way.  I only take in the fact that the person is black, same as I would say She's asian or She's Indian.  But when you start making sure everyone saw the difference between the two races and when you want everything to be segregated in thought, that's when you start contradicting the "equality" you want.

You know how we disagree with a lot of things? I can honestly say that I totally understand where you're coming from in this...

I work at the YMCA and it's a multicutural environment, and yet when I tell some kids (Hispanics, Asians, Caucasians, African Americans) to stop messing around, the African American kid would say, "it's because I'm Black, isn't it?". I think they meant it as a joke, but I was very offended that he would think I would discriminate against them while they are in the wrong. It's sad that they would use that excuse for everything.

It is true that racism is still rampant in the minds of people, but that doesn't mean people should be suspicious of every little thing... It's ridiculuosly unfair!

[ryfitaDF]

I really hope your kidding. That really pisses me off.

it's true. colleges have to have a set number of blacks, asians, women, etc. etc.


i'm fine with being called cracka or honkey or whatever. i'm not proud of white history. greed, fascism, murder, deviance.... man, i hate white people.

[leeeza702]

You're right. People do tend to get all hype and anxious if there's something like that about african americans. But they think it's funny when people say racist things about white people.

For example, the movie 'white chicks'. What the freak? I wonder what would've happend if someone made a movie called 'black chicks'. lol probably the director and producer would get sued right away.

I wondered about this also when the movie came out.... i didn't see the movie because of that reason... it's okay to call a movie "white chicks" without any problems... but if anyone were to even think about making a movie called "black chicks".... everyone would be saying "Racism" like there were no tomorrow...

has anyone seen 'Bad Santa'... remember when the manager was going to fire the elf guy and the santa??? and remember how they got out of not being fired... they used his "he's black and he's a midget (sp?)" thing...

and why is it that it's SOOOOOO bad when someone that's not black says the word "nigger"... but black people use it all the time??? aren't you guys just being hypocrites (sp?).... i think that's just sooo stupid... you hear a lot of black people use that word... it's just as if they were promoting it... if you don't want other people to use that word your own damn race shouldn't use it either...

p.s.
i'm not racist... and tboltzbabe... very nicely said... took the words right out of my mouth.... i'm not white by the way... i'm asian...

[ryfitaDF]

^ come again?

[leeeza702]

its like me saying..
"u go to createblog.com a lot.." i do too..
pots are black..kettles are black..old saying

so when a black person uses the word "nigger" that person is acknowledging (sp?) that the other person is black???

[ryfitaDF]

aaah i see.

but if somone who doesn't go to cb alot said "you go to createblog.com a lot" should we be offended? i'm not trying to call you wrong or anything, but if white people say the N word it's awful and if a black person says it it's nothing. that's kind of like racism right there.

[ghjgfkgfk]

and why is it that it's SOOOOOO bad when someone that's not black says the word "nigger"... but black people use it all the time??? aren't you guys just being hypocrites (sp?).... i think that's just sooo stupid... you hear a lot of black people use that word... it's just as if they were promoting it... if you don't want other people to use that word your own damn race shouldn't use it either...

some black people say that like as a joke.
you know some people say things like, 'she's MY bitch!" (sh...bad example)
i guess it's a joke.

while i was lurking in the girls lockers room i found this, "wats ur race, no racism by that srry"
i think it's SAD that she(who ever started the topic) had to say that last line (people won't think taht she did)

...i'm getting off topic. but oh well, it's my own topic!

[ghjgfkgfk]

but a black person wouldn't call a white person a nigger
and the createblog.com thing was just an example..
when black ppl say it to each other..its not as offensive bcuz..well..the person can just turn right around and call them the same thing..
ahh...i can't explain it

i get what your saying there :)

'blackboard' is blatently racist. 'whiteboard' is not...

[ryfitaDF]

btw i think its stupid for black ppl to call each other niggers..i certainly don't like being called a nigger regardless of what race

i concur. i don't like it very much at all.

and you did a good job of explaining it. i get it now
it's like how me and my friends call eachother ugly.

[mizz_mithy]

pick up a history book and read it sometime.i'll give a short history lesson.

black people have been hated because the color of their skin. they've been enslaved and treated like dogs becuase of the color of their skin. black people were forced out of their contury and brought somewhere where they did hard labor, were beaten, called niggers and negros, and hated cuz of their skin color. now think about it. black pplz have been hated for since they brought to america and it's still goin on.

oh yea and it's bad to call a black person a nigger because it's an insult and you have no right to say it.

and when black pplz make fun of white pplz it is NO COMPARISON to what black pplz had to go through all those years.

why can't black pplz say they are proud to be who they are? we want to show that we don't care what you do or say we are still proud to be who we are and you can't break us.

p.s. i'm not sayin your racist it just bothers me when pplz say stuff like that.

[T00000]

why can't black pplz say they are proud to be who they are? we want to show that we don't care what you do or say we are still proud to be who we are and you can't break us.

p.s. i'm not sayin your racist it just bothers me when pplz say stuff like that.

That's very noble. I think there are other ways to do that than to try to "get back" at whites for the pain and suffering of your people from over 100 years ago. So perhaps, if you really are of that noble opinion, you should be offended that your race has to stoop low enough to have an "eye for an eye" theory, which, according to you, isn't even that accurate.

[T00000]

it's like how me and my friends call eachother ugly.

yeah except umm you aren't

yes i've seen the pictures don't kid yourself

[leeeza702]

pick up a history book and read it sometime.i'll give a short history lesson.

black people have been hated because the color of their skin. they've been enslaved and treated like dogs becuase of the color of their skin. black people were forced out of their contury and brought somewhere where they did hard labor, were beaten, called niggers and negros, and hated cuz of their skin color. now think about it. black pplz have been hated for since they brought to america and it's still goin on.

oh yea and it's bad to call a black person a nigger because it's an insult and you have no right to say it.

and when black pplz make fun of white pplz it is NO COMPARISON to what black pplz had to go through all those years.

why can't black pplz say they are proud to be who they are? we want to show that we don't care what you do or say we are still proud to be who we are and you can't break us.

p.s. i'm not sayin your racist it just bothers me when pplz say stuff like that.

how can you say that when black people make fun of white people its "no comparison"..... that happened like how many years ago????? you act like the white people these days are to be blamed for what your ANCESTORS went through... you act like you went through it.... that's not really fair to blame the white people that are here today for what happened wayyyy before they were even born... goodness, it's HISTORY.... get over it.... black people weren't even the ONLY ones being enslaved.... geeeeze....

and yes... we all know that it's bad to call a black person a "nigger".... if you don't want other people to use it... don't freakin' promote that word... have you noticed that a lot of kids these days are now cussing, etc... they learn from other people and from tv... if black people are throwing the "N" word at each other... (since it's okay to???) what would stop kids from using the "n" word... ????

[ghjgfkgfk]

pick up a history book and read it sometime.i'll give a short history lesson.

black people have been hated because the color of their skin. they've been enslaved and treated like dogs becuase of the color of their skin. black people were forced out of their contury and brought somewhere where they did hard labor, were beaten, called niggers and negros, and hated cuz of their skin color. now think about it. black pplz have been hated for since they brought to america and it's still goin on.

oh yea and it's bad to call a black person a nigger because it's an insult and you have no right to say it.

and when black pplz make fun of white pplz it is NO COMPARISON to what black pplz had to go through all those years.

why can't black pplz say they are proud to be who they are? we want to show that we don't care what you do or say we are still proud to be who we are and you can't break us.

p.s. i'm not sayin your racist it just bothers me when pplz say stuff like that.

disagree.

pick up another history book and learn that black people are not the only ones that were slaves.

do you think that it is OKAY to be racist to a white person. no. it's not. you sound close minded.

when i said that i think its stupid to be proud of your race/skin color, i didnt mean just black people or whatever. i was talking about everyone who says that ****, regradless of their race. i still think its pointless. your race is what you are born into. you don't work for it.

is it okay to call a white person a racist name? no. its not. is it okay to call a black person a racist name? no. it's not. 'nigger' (yeah i said it) is NOT the only racist name.

FYI, the KKK clan was not the only racist group either...

[ghjgfkgfk]

here we go again..
all we're saying is that: THAT'S WHY BLACK PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY
i mean u can type as many paragraphs as u want..
but THAT'S WHY BLACK PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY

sorry, i don't get what you are saying.
black feel what way?
be specific.

[JlIaTMK]

You know how we disagree with a lot of things? I can honestly say that I totally understand where you're coming from in this...

I work at the YMCA and it's a multicutural environment, and yet when I tell some kids (Hispanics, Asians, Caucasians, African Americans) to stop messing around, the African American kid would say, "it's because I'm Black, isn't it?". I think they meant it as a joke, but I was very offended that he would think I would discriminate against them while they are in the wrong. It's sad that they would use that excuse for everything.

It is true that racism is still rampant in the minds of people, but that doesn't mean people should be suspicious of every little thing... It's ridiculuosly unfair!

woah i actually agree with u for the first time

pick up a history book and read it sometime.i'll give a short history lesson.

black people have been hated because the color of their skin. they've been enslaved and treated like dogs becuase of the color of their skin. black people were forced out of their contury and brought somewhere where they did hard labor, were beaten, called niggers and negros, and hated cuz of their skin color. now think about it. black pplz have been hated for since they brought to america and it's still goin on.

oh yea and it's bad to call a black person a nigger because it's an insult and you have no right to say it.

and when black pplz make fun of white pplz it is NO COMPARISON to what black pplz had to go through all those years.

why can't black pplz say they are proud to be who they are? we want to show that we don't care what you do or say we are still proud to be who we are and you can't break us.

p.s. i'm not sayin your racist it just bothers me when pplz say stuff like that.

NOW THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF
PLZ LOOK BACK AT MY OLD POST.... U NO WHAT.... IM SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT BLACKS BEING ENSLAVED IS NOT AS WORSE AS MANY OTHER COUNTRIES/RACES THAT GOT IT BEING ENSLAVED.... SOME COUNTRIES.... LIKE MACEDONIA HAD IT FOR OVER 500 FREAKIN YEARS.... how many years were blacks enslaved for?....

Y DONT U GET A HISTORY BOOK AND SEE HOW BADLY OTHER RACES/NATIONALITIES WERE TREATED AND HOW LONG THEY WERE ENSLAVED AND ALL THEY DID WAS FORGIVE AND FORGET....
GOD DANG IT.... Y CANT BLACK PPL DO THE SAME?

[leeeza702]

woah i actually agree with u for the first time



NOW THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF
PLZ LOOK BACK AT MY OLD POST.... U NO WHAT.... IM SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT BLACKS BEING ENSLAVED IS NOT AS WORSE AS MANY OTHER COUNTRIES THAT GOT IT BEING ENSLAVED.... how many years were blacks enslaved for?....

Y DONT U GET A HISTORY BOOK AND SEE HOW BADLY OTHER RACES/NATIONALITIES WERE TREATED AND HOW LONG THEY WERE ENSLAVED AND ALL THEY DID WAS FORGIVE AND FORGET....
GOD DANG IT.... Y CANT BLACK PPL DO THE SAME?

i agreee... everyone learned to forgive and forget MANY things about the past.... not only slavery but other things as well.... such as, pearl harbor and the bombing of hiromshima... we don't see the U.S. hating on the Japanese people... or vice versa... the philippines should also hate Japanese people because of the Bataan Death March.... (I think that's what it's called).... but we don't... a lot of filipinos even live in japan... the past is the past.... get over it.... we're not the same people that did those horrible things...

[LiDdLe_TaSh]

you know what's funny?
you'd think you were a jackass if you were black.
of course it's easy to forgive and forget.
especially when your ancestors weren't the ones that were enslaved.

im not tryin 2 b mean or nethin but can u name one ancestor of yours that was actually enslaved NO bcuz it happened so long ago and i am NOT racist at all i mean please wats the point but times have changed and now black people and white people are tryin 2 b looked at as equals but people from both races are making it difficlt by doing stupid thingS!!!! so im not targeting black people but that also that history lesson before totally targeted white people and thats not fair either

[JlIaTMK]

you know what's funny?
you'd think you were a jackass if you were black.
of course it's easy to forgive and forget.
especially when your ancestors weren't the ones that were enslaved.

id think i was a jackass if i was black?

i dont get it

[*CEP*]

Why is this here? Who moved it?
They're debating. It was in the Debate forum.

Christ. Someone's slacking off.

- Moved to Interests > Debate -

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[mizz_mithy]

FYI, the KKK clan was not the only racist group either...

oh so they just hung black pplz and jews for no reason. right...

[leeeza702]

oh so they just hung black pplz and jews for no reason. right...

uhm, i think they meant that the KKK is not the only racist group out there.... that there are other groups that are racist towards others???.......

[ComradeRed]

erm..i bet i'd have an easier time finding an ancestor of mine that was enslaved than you would
and my mom is 100% nigerian(african country) and my dad is 50% nigerian..and where did they get the slaves from?

The "Slave Coast" where they got most of the slave sdoesn't extend all the way to Nigeria. Sorry. It's more of a Senegal to Ghana thing.

[Spirited Away]

I totally understand why Blacks would feel discriminated in some situations, but feeling it and experiencing it are two different things. The kids that I work with just use it as an excuse most of the time, even when the sentence "it's because I'm Black" has nothing to do with it.

Yes, Africans were enslaved, but other races such as the Chinese were discriminated and looked down on as well when they were working the railroads, and Japanese Americans were "jailed" after Pearl Harbor because Americans were too suspcicious and spiteful after what happened even thought it wasn't their fault. Sure, African Americans suffered many injustices, and I'm not going to justify something unjustifiable, but using that as an excuse in contemporary time is... out of date, and overused.

The White man doesn't discriminate only Blacks, when he discriminates, he would discriminate Hispanics, Asians, and Mid Easterns as well. And when Blacks/Asians/Hispanics discriminate, they discriminate other races as well.

Trust me when I say that discrimination works BOTH ways. So, Blacks are not the only ones on the receiving end.

[ComradeRed]

A Brief History Lesson:

Most African-Americans have been in America longer than White Americans.

We don't go up to someone and call him an "Italian-American" unless he was actually born in Italy. Similarly, there is no reason we should refer to blacks as "African-Americans" unless they were acutally borin in Africa. They are Americans just like the rest of us -- no more, no less, no hyphen.

[Spirited Away]

A Brief History Lesson:

Most African-Americans have been in America longer than White Americans.

We don't go up to someone and call him an "Italian-American" unless he was actually born in Italy. Similarly, there is no reason we should refer to blacks as "African-Americans" unless they were acutally borin in Africa. They are Americans just like the rest of us -- no more, no less, no hyphen.

^^ I see, but how do you know if they're not directly from Africa ?

And does this work the same way with Hispanics or Asians... etc?

[inlonelinessidie]

for example.... theres this one thing in america that if ur black or mexican.... u get an extra point on ur sat per question....

That pissed me off too, I hope you were kidding also. And if the blacks or Mexicans get higher points it's because they are intelligent people. At least we know how to spell the word 'hire' unlike you.

[ComradeRed]

Actually, no. Blacks and Hispanics on average do much WORSE than whites and Asians on the SATs ... even with the point advantage.

However, they are accepted to top schools at a much Higher rate. Dartmouth College, one of hte Ivy League Eight, accepts 55% -- that is over HALF of all African-American students who apply, compared to just 15% of white students, who are, on average, applying with higher grades and test scores, as well as more activity involvement.

[mizz_mithy]

uhm, i think they meant that the KKK is not the only racist group out there.... that there are other groups that are racist towards others???.......

oppz i'll admitt i was wrong on that one.

[inlonelinessidie]

that's nice.
but that doesn't mean just because you're black or hispanic you're going to do worse on a SAT

Exactly. Race has nothing to do with your intelligence. You were born into it as it was stated before.

[leeeza702]

that's nice.
but that doesn't mean just because you're black or hispanic you're going to do worse on a SAT

first of all..... no double posting...

i think he knows that just because you're black or hispanic that means you're going to do worse... it was kind of like those... statistics or whatever...

[BlondE x Babii]

I think this should be in debate

yes i totally agree with you. TOTALLY. and also, seriously. an eye for an eye never works out now does it? that's what you're trying to achieve. i think, just because of what blacks went through, they think their definition of racism is somehow stricter than whites. well you know what, it ISNT. if you think one thing is racist, you can't just go around doing the same thing to whites. blacks arent the only people that were treated poorly in this country. not only that, they weren't the only people who were enslaved. Have you ever heard of shanghaing? that was big where i lived, in portland. back in the 1800s, people would go into bars, and slip drugs into unsuspecting people's drinks. when they passed out, they'd take the person through a tunnel behind the bar out to the dock on the columbia river, and proceed to ship them over to foriegn countries to work as slaves. and honey, these people were white. But you don't see them running around flipping out because their own kind enslaved them. you don't see us doing that. a lot of the blacks in this country weren't even related to a slave. most of you aren't even suffering from what happened more than a hundred and fourty years ago. you could argue that, because of slavery, blacks have no opportunies blah blah blah BULLSH!T. there's a such thing as the "Hope Scholarship" over here in Georgia, where anyone who has a GPA of above 3.0 can go to any public college they want in this state, all expenses paid. Still, the percentage of blacks actually attending college is low. So seriously, don't blame us. Also, I think we whites put up with a hell of a lot from blacks, given that if we would do the same to them, we'd be called racist.

For example: I had a black friend named Xavier. Every single time we'd critisize him, he'd respond with "It's because I'm black, ISNT IT." So one day at lunch, he looked at this girl named Danielle (who was black,) and was like "I really don't like her. She's so damn annoying and she thinks people actually care about what she has to say." So I simply said "It's because she's black, ISNT IT." Do you know what happened? He was extremely offended.

Now why is this? Blacks just feel entitled to make fun of whoever they come across, if they happen to be white. White guys cant rap, white girls can't dance. According to them. But if you see a black man trying to learn the flute, which is not only a usually not black thing to do, but also a female thing to do, you don't see people giving him a hard time. Employers always have issues firing their employees if the employee happens to be black and the employer, white, for fear of being called RACIST. But the other way around, and there's never a problem. Either blacks need to CHILL OUT, or whites need to stop taking **** from blacks. Blacks have gone through a lot, yes. But they need to understand that with their struggles and hardships, even at the time, much of the united states and our country of whites DIDNT support what was happening to them.

So if you want equality like you said you all do, maybe you should treat whites equally as well. There are some hardcore southern racists who don't treat blacks well, but other than that, I have not met or seen anyone who ever treated a black person the wrong way. I only take in the fact that the person is black, same as I would say She's asian or She's Indian. But when you start making sure everyone saw the difference between the two races and when you want everything to be segregated in thought, that's when you start contradicting the "equality" you want.

TBoltzbabe: i totally agree with everything youve said

what everyones said is true blacks wernt the only people enslaved sure maybe the us focuses on the period around the civil war and automatically thinks of that when they hear the word slavery but the should.... plenty of white slaves were around wayy before the civil war. for example when colonists came here they had slaves who were white



heres a page all about white slaves in the us

[BlondE x Babii]

no one said black ppl were the only ones that were enslaved
i heard that some asians were enslaved..
but this topic is about black and white ppl

yea but ur sure as hell acting like blacks were the only ones enslaved

hey? maybe it's because we black people didn't enslave white people and then treat them like shyt after slavery was over..
maybe it's because in the 2000 election black ppl didn't disenfranchise white votes

i can't believe u have the nerve to use the word nigger

you know what's funny?
you'd think you were a jackass if you were black.
of course it's easy to forgive and forget.
especially when your ancestors weren't the ones that were enslaved. 

uh yea they were?

i'd have a better chance finding an enslaved ancestor than she would.

from what i understand shes greek and thats in europe and idk if its just me but europe had tons of slavery even before the civil war era slavery happened

[Spirited Away]

but this topic is about black and white ppl 

Since when?

And who said Asians are enslaved?

[ComradeRed]

still.
i'd have a better chance finding an enslaved ancestor than she would.

Most Europeans were enslaved at some point or another.

The percentage of the Roman Empier composed of slaves was much higher than the percentage of the American South so composed.

[leeeza702]

^^ uh read the 1st post

maybe you should re-read the 1st post...

i don't get it when people say 'PROUD AND BLACK/-insert race here-".
it's just a skin color! why be proud of a skin color?
yuo're race is not something you work for or earn, you are born into it. you can't help it. what's there to be proud of there?

it just turned into a whites/blacks topic... with the whole slavery issue and why its okay to make fun of white people... but not the other way around...

[DesperateXMeasur...]

some black people say "nigger" like as a joke.
you know some people say things like, 'she's MY bitch!" (sh...bad example)
i guess it's a joke.

Okay they say it as a joke. But if a white person would say it as a joke, everyone would flip out.

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[ComradeRed]

A while ago, the successful businesswoman Darla Moore got on the cover of Fortune Magazine under the title "The Toughest Babe in Business". Many women are angered at this and sent letters into fortune. To this, Darla Moore wrote a response which basically said that women who were complaining about the use of "Babe" would never get on the cover of fortune -- because they are too busy focusing on semantics and not on REAL issues.

Similarly, when groups like the NAACP insist on political correctness and try to put a taboo on words like "Nigger" all they are doing is not letting the real issues at hand be debated. This kind of thing is harmful to everyone -- blacks, whites, and all other races as well.

Have any of you ever read 1984? The way in which Big Brother controls people is through LANGUAGE -- Newspeak. The way I see it, Newspeak and Political Correctness are exactly the same thing. And both are extremely dangerous.

[leeeza702]

ehh..i never said it was okay to make fun of white ppl..
i was just saying why SOME black ppl can make "racist jokes" against white ppl..
and plz don't go back and pull up something i said yesterday..that's really lame..i know that i've been more open minded to what ppl were saying here than i was yesterday

uhhh... i never said that you said that it was okay....

nevermind the topic title...

anyway.
it's okay to be racist...if you're doing it to a white person.

why is 'nigger' more offenstive than 'wigger' or 'cracker'?

have you noticed those 'black shows' show white people as very dumb and stupid. what if it was the other way around? you would have 476583x33 people saying the show is racist.

that's what I was talking about... and what are you talking about pulling something up from yesterday???

[Mireh]

i'll call someone an african america the day i get call a 'middle eastren american"

wtf? your screwed

[lucky_clover]

you know, a lot of times, people thinks asians are racist againest people not there color and that's probally true. but i don't believe that at all. people shouldn't jujde people on what they are born with. even though some people can be really harsh about this subject, it's very complicated let's just say that.

[ComradeRed]

It's racist to say that all people of a certain race are racist.

[BiGdRaGoN31]

racism is bad,it should end. easily said but not easily done rite.

[ComradeRed]

"Racism is bad." Brilliant conclusion, Mr. Holmes.

[slurp]

werd, if everyone thought like you itd be nice

[sadolakced acid]

no, cus you sure don't want to think like me. you'd go insane.

[JlIaTMK]

That pissed me off too, I hope you were kidding also. And if the blacks or Mexicans get higher points it's because they are intelligent people. At least we know how to spell the word 'hire' unlike you.

yeah ur kinda rude....
and its not because of that....
i found this out in another post....
and ummm ur steriotyping all blacks and saying they all have proper grammer.... when i dont think every single black person on this earth has proper grammer....

oh and its been a proven fact that some time or another.... at least one of our ancestors has been a slave

[kandi-chan]

personalli i agree wit brown sugar.. of course its not right for white folk 2 call black folk niggers when thats derogatory towards them cause of the slave thing..but its different for blak ppl 2 call blak ppl niggers cause theyre blak! duh..dunno how hard it is 2 understand that. and nigger isnt as offensive as wigger and cracker because black people didnt use it as a term meanin "stupid white person. we dint enslave u and call u that. and the term cracker was originally meant to describe a poor white person. white people call people crackers. and if you havent noticed thorughout history, white people have been racist towards all races..they dont like anybody! not the indians, not the blacks, not the mexicans, not the asians, not the middle-easterns, they juss dont! and i mean yea slavery was a thing of the past but racisms still goin on today..i was takin a walk the other day and some white kids threw an egg at me for no reason at all..i was mindin my own business lisenin 2 kanye west on my cd player and out of nowhere SPLAT! it hurt like friggin crap and the force of the egg hittin me made it break and it cut me and i started bleedin.. and the now you tell me that i have no reason to be mad towards white folk..yea its not all white folk but theres still that select bunch..crimes are commited against blacks ALL the friggin time. police beatin em 4 no reason at all and such. this one lady i know..her son was walking outside the apartment talking on his cell phone and this white cop shot him. now the cop claimed that he thought the cell phone was a gun and he shot for his own protection. but i dont think he needed 13 bullets in the boys chest to make him put down the weapon. and just bcuz we're black some people automatically think we're dumber than you white folk and we're automatically placed as "ghetto" and all dat crap. but no not all of us are. and if you guys who are talking were black then you'd understand where we're comin from. and its not right 4 blacks to make racist jokes against white people but most of the stuff has to do with history and stuff. i guess only black people and some white people can understand how much we've been through. and of course dats gonna make us hecka mad i mean c'mon..all you white people werent enslaved and the black form of "racist jokes and racism" and what not arent as severe as compared to that of white ppl. we dont hang and lynch you people for fun. we dont do that type of stuff for kicks. thats just sick. and we're not saying all white people are racist but a lot of em juss dont like black folk

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[kandi-chan]

wow i wrote alot haha...but im not racist or anything..i mean half of my friends are white and even my best friend is white..and yea i do that "its cuz im blak" thing sometimes but thats juss 2 my friends and im juss jokin wit em and i make sure they kno that.

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[Chlorie]

i agreee... everyone learned to forgive and forget MANY things about the past.... not only slavery but other things as well.... such as, pearl harbor and the bombing of hiromshima... we don't see the U.S. hating on the Japanese people... or vice versa... the philippines should also hate Japanese people because of the Bataan Death March.... (I think that's what it's called).... but we don't... a lot of filipinos even live in japan... the past is the past.... get over it.... we're not the same people that did those horrible things...

I agree with kandi-chan and brownsugar and mizz_mithy. they know what they're talking about. when black people or mexicans walk into the swap meet or any place like that, the asian owners automatically tihnk youre gonna steal sumthin. and they stare at you and stuff.

another example.. me and like 4 black people and my one white friend were walking down the street and some white person drove up in a car and called us (excludin my white friend) niggers. we are discriminated against all the time. my ancestors are from south america and even WE were slaves. so not all slaves were from africa but the majority were.

white people should not be saying nigger because it was not a good word for them to say to begin with. black people use the word nigger because its a word they use to talk to each other since we were slaves and thats what we know. and did any of the white people ever call each other crackers because they were in oppression or something? i dont think so! you dont see teh white people gettin beat or hung or having to pick cotton!

stop w/ the history lessons cuz we black people know our history. we go to school!

[leeeza702]

I agree with kandi-chan and brownsugar and mizz_mithy. they know what they're talking about. when black people or mexicans walk into the swap meet or any place like that, the asian owners automatically tihnk youre gonna steal sumthin. and they stare at you and stuff.

another example.. me and like 4 black people and my one white friend were walking down the street and some white person drove up in a car and called us (excludin my white friend) niggers. we are discriminated against all the time. my ancestors are from south america and even WE were slaves. so not all slaves were from africa but the majority were.

white people should not be saying nigger because it was not a good word for them to say to begin with. black people use the word nigger because its a word they use to talk to each other since we were slaves and thats what we know. and did any of the white people ever call each other crackers because they were in oppression or something? i dont think so! you dont see teh white people gettin beat or hung or having to pick cotton!

stop w/ the history lessons cuz we black people know our history. we go to school!

first of all....
kandi-chan: don't double post... READ THE RULES!

second of all...
no one said that it was okay for white people to call black people "niggers"... but it's soo funny how you guys find it sooo offensive but yet you use it yourselves...??? and how is "cracker" and "wigger" not as offensive as the word "nigger"??? they're all RACIAL SLURRS!!!! maybe the whites didn't like anybody in the past... but hey... THAT WAS THE PAST!!! times have changed, sure there are still some people that are racist today, but not everyone!!!! and you act like black people are the ONLY race being discriminated against...

as for the whole "asian owners automatically think you're gonna steal sumthin." thing... you guys seem to like bringing up your personal experiences... maybe you should think about why they think that??? maybe they have been stolen from before from only those 2 races??? kind of like how you "have a reason to be mad towards white folks" you have a reason to be mad, and maybe they (asian owners) have a reason to be suspicious....

chlorie... how old are you?? i mean, goodness, if YOU were a slave... that would mean you're like really really old. wow... we actually have someone here who experienced slavery first hand!! (sarcastic) and I just love your little comment about "we black people know our history. we go to school!" is really stupid. you're basically saying that every other race doesn't go to school?! what a real intelligent thing to say...

[sadolakced acid]

you should not recive compensation for slavery. you were never a slave. in fact, slavery has probably helped you.

your ancesters were taken here against their will. thus, you were born and raised here. if slavery never existed, then you would have been born in africa. you must admit, you do benifit from being in the US.

compensation... i have not seen any compensation for the chinese exclution act. the compensation for the japanese 'internment' (the american concentration camps) was about 20,000 per person. years later.

you do not need compensation. i see able minorities rise in positions without affirmative action or compensation.

[ComradeRed]

the compensation for the japanese 'internment'  (the american concentration camps)  was about 20,000 per person.  years later.

Enough to buy a brand new Subaru.

I think that should be our new policy -- Compensate people based on how much a car from their ethnicity costs. But I don't know any African cars.

The most important issue here is this -- Slavery was (for the most part) not a government-caused evil. There is no reason the government (i.e.) ALL the taxpayers should pay for what some private individuals did a long time ago.

If you want to be compensated, track the lineage of the people who actually enslaved you (i.e. the pirates and chiefs who first captured your anceostrs from Africa nad brought them to the US -- not even the slave owners themselves, beacuse they were engaging in lawful activity, and for the most part, regarded what they were doing as beneficial to the slaves) and sue them.

[sadolakced acid]

20,000 for 5 years of imprisonment... that's with 50 years of interest.

[ComradeRed]

20,000 for 5 years of imprisonment... that's with 50 years of interest.

Let's see... hte very last Japanese were let out in 1948 (so actually, 7 years of imprisonment -- 1942, 1943, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948). The average year there was 1945.

7 years ... times the average inflation-adjusted per capita GDP in 1945 (around $11,500 -- it's actually just a tad more, but $11,500 is easier to work with).

So $11,500 times 7 years is $80,500 -- for math's sake, we'll just call that $80,000.

So really, a fair compensation would have to be at least $80,000. But they actually got $20,000. So really over 50 years (note: they were compesnated in 1996. Really, it should be 51 years since 1945 the average year -- but 50 is much easier to work with), they were paid a negative interest rate. Funny, let's calculate that:

$20,000 = $80,000x^50, where x = The inflation rate they were paid.

Slapping that into the trusty old TI-89, yields that X = about 0.973. In other words, they were paid -2.7% inflation each year.

Now, let's apply that same formula to determine fair slave compensation.

Slavery existed from 1620 to 1865. Slavery in the United States existed from 1776 (the beginning of the United States) to 1865. We will change 1776 to 1775 for mathematical clarity -- it won't make a differnece. In other words, our country had slavery for 90 years. The average year is 1820. The per capita GDP in 1820 was about $2,500 (inflation-adjusted -- the actual number is a little lower because the per capita GDP was alwayas lower in the South). The average slave had a life expectancy of about 35 years (not including infants who died before reaching the age of 2). So 35 times $2,500 is $87,500. But of course, the slaves weren't working the whole time. Let's say they would start working at age 10, which for the time period, is reasonable. That yields really 25 times $2,500 which is $62,500.

So a fair compensation for a slave would be $62,500. However, this is only for ONE slave. Let's take your average slave living from 1810 to 1840. Between then and now, there would have been 6 generations. If, in each generation, 2 slaves (or descendants of slaves) produced an average of 2.9 children (which is supported by historical data, but may acutally be an underestimate), then after 6 generations there would be 9 children (so 4 and a half per slave).

So that $62,500 has to be divided by four and a half. This yields $13,888. We'll make that $14,000.

So really, the fair compensation PER SLAVE DESCENDANT is now $14,000, not $62,500. $62,500 is the amount PER SLAVE.

However, the governemnt doesn't pay fair value. It pays -2.7% interest, as shown earlier in my example with the Japanese. And everyone ought to be compensated evenly, nyet comrade? So let's apply -2.7% interest.

Slavery (in the US) lasted from 1775 to 1865. The average year is 1820. Now it's 2005. That's 185 years.

So the amount of compensation you SHOULD get for slavery is:

$14,000 after 185 years of negative interest. Mathematically, that is: $14,000(.973)^185. My TI-89 puts that at $88.51.

We'll round that up to $90. Thus every black person in America who can prove he was the descendant of a slave between 1776 and 1865 should recieve $90.

That's enough to buy two or three AKs if you know where to shop. And since there are 25 million African-Americans in the United States ... let's say 80% were slave descendants. The total cost of paying 20 million people $90 each is $180,000,000 -- that amount of money is nothing in light of the total budget.

And remember, $90 is actually a high estimate. I rounded to give slaves the benefit of the doubt EVERY TIME. And this I did as an amateur with a pocket calculator with access to only rough data. If government economists were to do this, teh result would almost certainly be lower -- perhaps $75 or $80 per person. Have fun with that. Don't spend it all in one place (especially on drugs!).

Now let me end with the famous quote from Samuel Clemens:
"There are three kinds of lies in this world: Lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Really, you shouldn't get any money at all -- because YOU were never a slave. And as I brought up in my previous posts, the VAST majority of whites did not own slaves. Yet their descendants will be paying for you if the government chooses to compesnate. If you want compensation -- sue the pirates. You can go hire a lawyer with the $90 we gave you.

[BTW: Can you believe I am studying Econometrics??]

[sadolakced acid]

yes, so because of slavery, they all get $300, and free imigration to the US.

very nice cacultation, but that's considering they lived in the US, which would mean the slavetraders brought them over from africa for free, and they got work in the US.

so the proper conpensation for slavery would be

[GPA in africa]x[years as a slave]x[-2.7% interest] - transportation back to africa ( which was your homeland, correct?)

now, i don't know the GPA in africa at that time. but i imagine it to be about... 0. because most slaves were taken by rival tribes in the center portion of africa, where tribalism was still very much alive. these tribal slaves were sold to slavetraders who brought them to the cost. at the coast, slave ships bought the slaves and took them to america to sell.

in reality, it was not the whites enslaving the blacks, anyhow. the actual enslaving ( removal from a life of freedom to a life of slavery) was done by fellow blacks.

thus, they are not entitled to the $300s anyways.

[ComradeRed]

But because they were forced to come here, the cost of transportation is not theirs to pay. I agree that they are not entitled to money, but not for that reason.

[sadolakced acid]

yes, the cost of transportation isn't theirs to pay.

but they are in this country, and it was not the white man that enslaved thier ancestors. however, if their ancestors were not enslaved, they would remain in africa, a lower living standard.

[Spirited Away]

when black people or mexicans walk into the swap meet or any place like that, the asian owners automatically tihnk youre gonna steal sumthin. and they stare at you and stuff.

This is what I mean by ridiculous!!!

Damn, if a Black person LOOKS like a thug, talk like a thug, and act like a thug, he/she is basically saying "I'M A THUG", stereotypically speaking. Okay, now if someone who looks like a thug steps into your store, wouldn't you worry, too? If that thug looking person was Asian/Hispanic/White, a Black store owner would feel threatened all the SAME.

ONCE AGAIN, Blacks are NOT the only ones being discriminated. My Dad and I walked into a piano store wearing our casual clothes (jeans and t-shirt) and the White customer service guy IGNORED us and after browsing around I realized that the other customers, who wore NICE (i.e what older people wear to Church) clothes and were Asians and Whites, were getting service. So really, even I have to accept the fact that if I look like a bum going into a fancy place, I'm going to get discriminated.

BeJEZZZUS, you make absolutely NO SENSE, and what you said was completely unthinking. Just like you and others are saying that we shouldn't stereotype Blacks, you should take your own advice and don't stereotype people of other races. That's another one of the proverbial "the pot calling the kettle black" for you.

MOST of the time, you'd think that you're discriminated because of your color even though your race has NOTHING to do with it. Sometimes, all it takes is common sense to know that you're not being discriminated but only that you're being judged based on your outward character.

[leeeza702]

This is what I mean by ridiculous!!!

Damn, if a Black person LOOKS like a thug, talk like a thug, and act like a thug, he/she is basically saying "I'M A THUG", stereotypically speaking. Okay, now if someone who looks like a thug steps into your store, wouldn't you worry, too? If that thug looking person was Asian/Hispanic/White, a Black store owner would feel threatened all the SAME.

ONCE AGAIN, Blacks are NOT the only ones being discriminated. My Dad and I walked into a piano store wearing our casual clothes (jeans and t-shirt) and the White customer service guy IGNORED us and after browsing around I realized that the other customers, who wore NICE (i.e what older people wear to Church) clothes and were Asians and Whites, were getting service. So really, even I have to accept the fact that if I look like a bum going into a fancy place, I'm going to get discriminated.

BeJEZZZUS, you make absolutely NO SENSE, and what you said was completely unthinking. Just like you and others are saying that we shouldn't stereotype Blacks, you should take your own advice and don't stereotype people of other races. That's another one of the proverbial "the pot calling the kettle black" for you.

MOST of the time, you'd think that you're discriminated because of your color even though your race has NOTHING to do with it. Sometimes, all it takes is common sense to know that you're not being discriminated but only that you're being judged based on your outward character.

very nicely said... that's true. basically EVERYONE is discriminated against, not just because of your race, but because of your sex, age, appearance, etc. uninspiredfae... took the words right out of my mouth...

[JlIaTMK]

personalli i agree wit brown sugar.. of course its not right for white folk 2 call black folk niggers when thats derogatory towards them cause of the slave thing..but its different for blak ppl 2 call blak ppl niggers cause theyre blak! duh..dunno how hard it is 2 understand that. and nigger isnt as offensive as wigger and cracker because black people didnt use it as a term meanin "stupid white person. we dint enslave u and call u that. and the term cracker was originally meant to describe a poor white person. white people call people crackers. and if you havent noticed thorughout history, white people have been racist towards all races..they dont like anybody! not the indians, not the blacks, not the mexicans, not the asians, not the middle-easterns, they juss dont! and i mean yea slavery was a thing of the past but racisms still goin on today..i was takin a walk the other day and some white kids threw an egg at me for no reason at all..i was mindin my own business lisenin 2 kanye west on my cd player and out of nowhere SPLAT! it hurt like friggin crap and the force of the egg hittin me made it break and it cut me and i started bleedin.. and the now you tell me that i have no reason to be mad towards white folk..yea its not all white folk but theres still that select bunch..crimes are commited against blacks ALL the friggin time. police beatin em 4 no reason at all and such. this one lady i know..her son was walking outside the apartment talking on his cell phone and this white cop shot him. now the cop claimed that he thought the cell phone was a gun and he shot for his own protection. but i dont think he needed 13 bullets in the boys chest to make him put down the weapon. and just bcuz we're black some people automatically think we're dumber than you white folk and we're automatically placed as "ghetto" and all dat crap. but no not all of us are. and if you guys who are talking were black then you'd understand where we're comin from. and its not right 4 blacks to make racist jokes against white people but most of the stuff has to do with history and stuff. i guess only black people and some white people can understand how much we've been through. and of course dats gonna make us hecka mad i mean c'mon..all you white people werent enslaved and the black form of "racist jokes and racism" and what not arent as severe as compared to that of white ppl. we dont hang and lynch you people for fun. we dont do that type of stuff for kicks. thats just sick. and we're not saying all white people are racist but a lot of em juss dont like black folk

oh and im sure uve been enslaved in the past?....

yeah "we" werent the enslavors....
and "you" didnt get enslaved....

that was a while ago bud....
i really dont understand y someone might thro an egg at ur head.... but if their racists id be angry towards them too....

and all u white ppl werent enslaved....
YEAH I NO THAT AND U WERENT EITHER....
if ur ancestors have been.... then so have ours.... look thro history.... not just black history and u'll find that all of our ancestors have been enslaved thro one point in time

oh and i have three words to say....

ITS OVER WITH

and has been for a long time

white people should not be saying nigger because it was not a good word for them to say to begin with. black people use the word nigger because its a word they use to talk to each other since we were slaves and thats what we know. and did any of the white people ever call each other crackers because they were in oppression or something? i dont think so! you dont see teh white people gettin beat or hung or having to pick cotton!

okay thats just BS.... "we were slaves" haha u were.... ur ancestors were, not u.... and if it comes down to that.... then my ancestors were enslaved too.... and they were treated crappier then yours.... but u dont see me complaining about it all the time.... do u now?

[sadolakced acid]

wow. so when will we be celebrating your 200th birthday, MR. i was a slave.

dude... if i don't discriminate on race... i discriminate on dress. if you wear 'gansta' clothes, i treat you not that good. if you're in jeans and a shirt, i treat you better. if you'r in a suit, then you get great treatment.

you're dress relfects who you are. it's no my fault if you dress badly. that doens't mean it's racism.

[sadolakced acid]

and you're stereotyping. you got your sonys, your panasonics, but, better than stereo is 5.1 surround sound. hehe.

the KKK still exists. but that doesn't mean all white people are like that. nor all southerners.

[Chlorie]

[QUOTE]but it's soo funny how you guys find it sooo offensive but yet you use it yourselves...??? WE USE IT CAUSE WE ARE BLACK!!!

[ComradeRed]

What I'm actually trying to say is that if the government were to treat African-Americans the same way it treated Japanese people (which, after all, is far -- Fourteenth Amendment) and compensate them, each slave descendant would recieve $90 as fair compensation.

Anything more would be discriminatory towards the Japanese.

[ComradeRed]

Obviously... but what would you propose?

There's an affirmative action thread buried there somewhere where I basically showed that affiramtive action holds blacks back. I'd be glad to dig it up if you want.

[leeeza702]

[QUOTE=Chlorie,Aug 8 2004, 3:32 PM] [QUOTE]but it's soo funny how you guys find it sooo offensive but yet you use it yourselves...??? WE USE IT CAUSE WE ARE BLACK!!! [/QUOTE]
wow... you call each other "stupid black person"... isn't that just a slap in the face??? when you guys say it, you guys are just promoting more people to say it... just like cussing.. more and more young kids are cussing because of what they hear from people, tv, music, etc... some people actually think the word "nigger" is just slang for "homie" or whatnot... you know, you hear all these people sayin "wussup mah niggah"... on music, in the streets... oh wait.. i love this one also... "foe shizzle mah nizzle" more and more people hear it, the more they are going to use it.... the word "dope" was now slang for "cool" because everyone kept saying it and using it.... you hear people say "nigger" as in like a "friend"... why do you have to use it anyways?? can you find no other word to replace the word "nigger"....????

Example
From the movie, You Got Served... after they were done performing or whatever, the little boy (little saint)... said...
"man, ya'll niggahs were off the shizzy...when ya'll gonna let me get down wit ya'll?" something like that.... anyways... you can obviously take out the word "niggahs"... you don't even have to use it...

bottom line is... if you don't want people to be using the word "nigger" don't promote the word.... that's like... if you have a kid, and you don't want him/her to cuss... but yet you cuss all the time in front of the kid.... ?????

[QUOTE]can some of u actully freakin try to argue with out having a fact book from who knows when rite by u? thanks, we've seen ur statistics..but what are u actually trying to say? [/QUOTE]
What i'm trying to say is that... hmmm... how I THINK that it's okay for black people to make fun of white people (such as the movie 'White Chicks')... but if anyone were to even think of a movie... hmmm.. let's call it... 'Black Chicks'... there would be crys of racism....

[inlonelinessidie]

yeah ur kinda rude....
and its not because of that....
i found this out in another post....
and ummm ur steriotyping all blacks and saying they all have proper grammer.... when i dont think every single black person on this earth has proper grammer....

oh and its been a proven fact that some time or another.... at least one of our ancestors has been a slave

Look up we in the dictionary sweetie, was I refering to every single black person or Mexican? NO. We can be used informally by a writer (being me) to refer to him or herself.

[sadolakced acid]

not everyone bashes blacks.