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Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread.
Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why? 1.) Abortion 2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves) 3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget) Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it. |
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all of that should be illegal.
abortion...seriously, its the killing of other human being, regardless of its a cell.. its still killing it. euthanasia...nah, it shouldnt be illegal. what about people in a vegetable state? assisted suicide...omg..make it stop! |
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1.) Abortion - Okay, I'm kind of neutral when it comes to this topic. I mean, it's the person's own fault that they got pregnant, so they should take the responsibility. There are other options--such as adoption. But then again, if the person unwillingly became pregnant then I can understand why they wouldn't want to deal with all this.
The legality of abortion is being easily abused. Instead of thinking of other solutions, a lot of people go for the easiest thing for them. I think the option should still be open though.. I'm leaning more towards pro-life, so I'll say it should be illegal even though we know that people will be aborting whether or not it's legal. 2.) Assisted Suicide - Straight forward, I'll say it should be illegal. Why would you want to help someone kill themself? I don't really have much to say about this one.. 3.) Euthanasia - I'm actually doing a term paper on this. I don't think it should be legalized, because this is another thing that could be abused. You never know what could have happened to the person if you hadn't "pulled the plug." I know that people don't like to suffer, but they should at least wait and see what will happen to the person before killing them. |
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In my opinion, Abortion and Euthanasia can be made legal/illegal. But how do you make Assited Suicide legal/illegal? It's not like there's a camera following you everywhere you go and detecting what you say/do. Eh, I don't know how to say it, but you know what I'm trying to say, right?
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pretty much agree with what Alk3 wrote...but i'm a bit more..you could say..traditional? prolife?
*Abortion-no. a baby is still a living being. it's amazing how we go beserk if someone purposefully kills an baby animal..but believes a newborn baby is just a mess of skin. it's ironic..and to me..disgusting. *Assisted Suicide & Euthanasia-when doing any of those two...would be reallyyy mess up our definitions of "murder" and "assisted suicide" or "euthanasia". you think you're ugly..you want to die. i kill you/help you kill you. murder you say? nawww just using my euthanasia/assissting suicide freedom! *please note the sarcasm* |
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i think they shoul all be illegal except for numero 3.. i mean, if someones in pain, killing them would put them at rest/ease from not only the pain, but all the other junk in the world.... right?
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wow the responces have been great so far!
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I am against abortion, but for the sake of differing opinions, i believe it should be legal. It should be up to the person to make that decision, not the government.. despite how immoral I think it is. Assisted Suicide? What? What's the counter argument FOR that? "I want to commit a selfish act and be even more selfish by bringing someone else into the picture." I'm sorry, I'm ignorant on this one Euthanasia? I have mixed feelings about this one... then again wouldn't there be many circumstances with a thin line drawn between assisted suicide and euthanasia? And if one were to be legal and the other illegal, couldn't one plead this over that.. and regardless of situation, have their death wish fulfilled? They'd be the same thing then. I don't know how to explain haha ![]() |
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I'm going to add divorce to this picture too
1. Abortion- Illegal. People should be responsible for their actions and abortion is a way to get around it at the expense of a baby's life. However, maybe it should be legal for only rape victims... But would that mean rape statistics suddenly increase, just so people could have their children aborted? 2. Assisted Suicide- Illegal. 3. Euthanasia- Illegal. But i think there should be some exceptions to this, like if there was some horrible disease making the person really miserable. But if there were exceptions, they'd have to make sure everything was defined clearly, so no one could murder someone by getting through a loophole. 4. Divorce- Illegal, if children are involved. It's not fair for the kids to go through a divorce because the parents can't agree with each other. |
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1. Abortion- I know this may be the un-Christian thing to say, but I think it should be legalized. Just because it's legal doesn't mean everyone is going to do it. They should at least have the choice. If it's illegalized, this is taking away the choice of the people, which is the natural-born right of the human being. Also, even if it's illegalized, people are going to do it illegally anyway, probably using a more dangerous method. By professional doctors handling abortion, it guarantees a safer method than the "hanger method", you know? And an undeveloped baby fetus may be up to debate whether it's living or not. It's all subject to opinion. Abortion is not the same as killling a born baby. A fetus is not fully developed and has no capabilities to do anything.
2. Assisted Suicide- As in physician assisted suicide, aka Dr. Kevorkian? I think it should be legal but only in extreme cases where the patient is feeling unbearable pain. It should not be a way to commit suicide, for a healthy person. 3. Euthanasia- It should be legal, because people should feel as less pain as possible. If a person is going to die anyway from cance or some other form of disease, it's senseless to let that person suffer when he could have a quick painless death. The person must agree to it, however. The cases of people in a vegetative state can be argued... by the family, not the physician's recommendations. Euthanasia on animals is another touchy subject, since animals aren't exactly given a choice whether they want to be euthanized or not. I was watching this dog shelter documentary on Discovery, and temperamental dgos were put to sleep. Some weren't even that "bad". It's not fair that this dog should die for having the potential to bite someone. It's not like he bit anyone, and it's not fair that they should die for their natural instinct. |
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abortion has been something that i've been strongly against for a couple of years now. i mean your basically killing an innocent child that had no choice in the matter, and ur messing with God's plan. a lot of people dont see that theres a HUGE difference between PRO-LIFE and PRO-CHOICE. people think of abortion as a way out. that they can have sex and if they get pregnant then they can just abort the child and they have their life back. so to sum it up abortion and assisted suicide should be ILLEGAL. if u wanna help make these two things illegal then let me know cuz my churches deacon gave me address to senators and maybe u could voice ur concerns.
euthanasia is a foggy subject for me becuz there are so many senarios that go with this word. like others have said if they're in a vegetated (sp?) and have been in it a while then i think that would be okay. i dont know im really confused on this one. hope this helped! |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
They should all be illegal.
Abortion: you are killing an unborn child. Takingt he life away from a living breathing beautiful child...those children they are killing could be the next presidents and leaders, pastors and lawyers, could be civil rights leaders and help save our lives....there is no excuse for killing children born or unborn. Assisted suicide: Why dont you just murder the person? There is nothing good about taking somebodies life away...nobody..other than God owns that right. Pulling the plug: That is horrible...it shoudl be illegal. |
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I think it should all be illegal.
The bible says thou shalt not kill. And all of those things qualify as killing because you are taking someone's life. We shouldn't be playing God. |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
exactly...you go gurl!!!
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i agree... im a strong christian and i dont believe in any of those things... i know i know about abortion, "womens right to choose" but guess what its not your life! i was adopted, and abortion was on my mothers mind... if it werent so looked down upon back then... i wouldnt be here... just something to think about
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Abortion : I agree with alk3, it depends on the person who IS pregnant. If they choose that they do not want to be pregnant, its their choice to sign up for abortion.
Assisted Suicide: This should be illegal, because you are technically killing the person who wants to commit suicide. Commiting suicide is a sin, and so is (or I believe) assisted suicde. Euthanasia: This should not be illegal, but only for doctors, and if the person wants do die. If vets can put animals to sleep, why not humans? If the person really IS suffering, then let them go (that is, if they want to) |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
umm..ok well..hav eyou seen the anti-drug commercial...where there is a girl drowning in a lake and her friend is just watching her and not helping? That is horrible and we all know that in our heads we should jump in after our friends....we know that we shoudll save the unborn children but ppl are convincing us to believe itz normal....itz not!!!! and if you find killing sum1 a sin and you know what a sin is than you should understand that killing unborn babies is the same thing...A SIN!!!
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QUOTE(Tal_Dara @ Feb 16 2004, 6:13 PM) Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread. Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why? 1.) Abortion 2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves) 3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget) Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it. 1. Legal. I just think it should be legal. If you can't take care of the kid, then why bring them into the world? 2. Illegal. It's just like being an accomplise to a murder (whether or not your helping that person kill themselves or someone else) 3. Legal. Sometimes it's better if you just let the person go so that they don't suffer anymore. If there's like no chance they're gonna get better, and you have them on life support suffering, until they die, then I don't think it's right. Let them go so they wont suffer |
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abortion, keep it the way it is, legal to the third trimester
assisted suicide: im saying no but i really dont care about moron that want to kill themsleves euthanasia: yes legalize but only if there is express persmission not only from patient and doctor but from relatives. That way doctors can't take advantage of ailing patients (just incase that doctor is some kind of sicko) The real question is whether we should legalize prostitution, a victimless crime |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
ok...well letz put it this way...
1. You are killing a future president, lawyer, mother, example, beautiful child 2. Yes it shuld be illegal 3. when you are old we will remember this and pull your plug on you. |
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1. you are killing the future stalin, mussolini, serial rapist, serial killer, drug dealer
2. yes it should be illegal 3. when YOU are old and suffering every moment of your life but technically you are still alive, do you want to stay that way? it's not killing people simply because their old, its because life has become so excruciatingly painful that they themselves welcome death. |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
1. Put them out for adoption...raise them with somebody else but dont kill them...if this stupid country wasnt soo fascinated with sex then this wouldnt be a problem in the first place.
3. Pain is better than sending sumbody to hell for killing you. Oh, adn this is the same thinga s assisted suicide..thinka bout it for a second |
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QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Mar 17 2004, 3:28 PM) 3. Pain is better than sending sumbody to hell for killing you. Oh, adn this is the same thinga s assisted suicide..thinka bout it for a second yep, you're right. they're pretty much the same thing. |
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1. the whole process of labor is a lot taxing than you think. and yes this country is very fascinated with sex, that why we should be distributing condoms out in highschools and also teaching further methods of safe sex. because lets face it folks, preaching abstinence all day long is NOT working.
3. "sending sumbody to hell for killing you" that is a christian philosophy and you can't apply christian philosophy to public policy because well... goes back to our Decision 2004 argument, you can't mix religion and politics. what if my religion is that killing someone when they're in that kind of pain does not send me to hell. what happens then. |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
ok...this is all about religion...thatz what it is...
so what are you anywayz? |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
by the way...there is no such thing as safe sex...itz called marraige.
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theres may be no 100% safe sex but there is safer sex in comparis on to no protection
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Abortion should made to be illegal. It doesn't matter if you don't want the baby! Abortion is still killing and killing is wrong! Just put the baby up for adoption.
Cherish every living thing-- you know? Its called Respect, no matter how small or how big the living thing is. |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
look...the bottom line is that you are going to kill a baby becuz two ppl were in sin? and that you are going to only assist a suicide if they are old and in physical pain not young and in mental pain?
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so you always look out for ants and bugs?
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
do they have souls? do they go anywhere other than the ground after they die? I dont think so...babies can make a difference ants can bite you
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QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Mar 17 2004, 3:39 PM) look...the bottom line is that you are going to kill a baby becuz two ppl were in sin? and that you are going to only assist a suicide if they are old and in physical pain not young and in mental pain? and also if a young person was in physical pain and theres nothing the doctors can do i have no qualms if they all agreed to euthanise. yes bottom line is im going to kill a baby because two people were in "sin" even though that should not even be part of the argument because sinning is not a government regulated law. and yes because the physical pain is to the point where theres nothing doctors can do. mental pain can be solved because its in the mind and not a physical manifestation. |
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QUOTE(tomorrow_nvr_comes @ Mar 17 2004, 3:41 PM) do they have souls? do they go anywhere other than the ground after they die? I dont think so...babies can make a difference ants can bite you i was refering to lilangelgurlpnai's quote about respecting every living things. and ants and bugs count as living things. and the presence of a soul isn't a fact, its a believe grounded on faith so dont use that to argue. |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
this is the response of sumbody who doesnt understand mental pain...you ahve nvr truly been hurt to the point of no return have you? Thatz what I though! It can be the same if not worse than physical and is not alwayz fixable by perscription.just time and prayer.
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Well.. that just confused me. But don't we all should respect things? At school, they are always like respect one another blah blah blah.
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
do you love? do you hate? do you feel emotionally? then you have a soul...what do you think that is a butt?
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Monkeys feel, they have attachement towards their children, they have anger towards rival clans. they express emotion. do they have souls? and just because i display these qualities does NOT mean i have a soul. soul is a human concept that isn't based on any scientific proof.
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the bottom line is ... whether anything is a sin or not shouldn't be factored into public policy regarding that issue.
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
I am gonna go tan now...have fun
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1) I personally think that abortion is awful. It's the murder of another human, however, not everyone thinks the same way as I do. Making something illegal has never stopped anyone! If a woman is pregnant and wants to get rid of the baby it's at least safer for her if she can have it done at a doctor's office by a professional than having an abortion in the back of an alley by a guy who doesn't know crap.
2) I also think that assisted suicide is wrong. I believe that by taking your own life you are murdering and therefore damning yourself to Hell. I think that if a person is going to kill themselves they shouldn't bring another person into it, unless that other person is talking them down. In a way both people are murdering, so if you are committing suicide why hurt another person's soul? 3) I'm not too big on euthanising animals. If it is a human I think it's wrong, I'd never do it to an animal though. With animals their instinct is to survive, it's dobtful that they want you to take their lives. With humans it goes right back to murder. Lot's of that is based on faith and religion. If you disagree, ok great, I think that the point of this was to find people point of view. That's what I believe though, let's not bash what people believe. |
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1)legal
2)illegal 3)legal |
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QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Mar 17 2004, 4:10 PM) 1) I personally think that abortion is awful. It's the murder of another human, however, not everyone thinks the same way as I do. Making something illegal has never stopped anyone! If a woman is pregnant and wants to get rid of the baby it's at least safer for her if she can have it done at a doctor's office by a professional than having an abortion in the back of an alley by a guy who doesn't know crap. 2) I also think that assisted suicide is wrong. I believe that by taking your own life you are murdering and therefore damning yourself to Hell. I think that if a person is going to kill themselves they shouldn't bring another person into it, unless that other person is talking them down. In a way both people are murdering, so if you are committing suicide why hurt another person's soul? 3) I'm not too big on euthanising animals. If it is a human I think it's wrong, I'd never do it to an animal though. With animals their instinct is to survive, it's dobtful that they want you to take their lives. With humans it goes right back to murder. Lot's of that is based on faith and religion. If you disagree, ok great, I think that the point of this was to find people point of view. That's what I believe though, let's not bash what people believe. i think this kind of open discussion is much more interesting than the million stupid games The Lounge has that are just pointless spamfests. |
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aren't you going tanning?
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abortion should be ILLEGAl..because your someones life if you do it
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i think it all should be illegal 1. because assisted suicide is the same thing as murder... is it not? Come on now lets think for a miniute, when you help kill somebody, and it is you that kills them... THAT IS MURDER! No way you can change that around, I mean, unless they kill themself, and you just hide the body, theres no way of changing the words, I killed him because he didnt want to live anymore. I mean, that crap is wack. And another reason why I think that should be illegal is because thats against my religion. And then for the abortion cause, the is murder in gods eyes as well. Why the hell would you kill a child just because you dont want it anymore. I mean that crap is wack also! I would never turn my back on my child, let alone kill them. I just cant see why somebody would do that. Would they like it if they were killed b4 they could expirience the change to breathe? See? Walk? Talk? I dont think they would. oh yeah, and for Euthanasia, thats just another for of murder. Why would you sin just for somebody else's sake? I mean, thats just not cool to me. My job is to please god, not to please somebody that rather die than not feel pain. Crap, they better get over it cause I am not sinning and going to hell just because they cant takle pain that will EVENTUALLY go away.
In the end, I guess you could say that my opinons are based off of my religion, but hey what can I say... |
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![]() lovedme_lovesmenot...explain that! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 590 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,423 ![]() |
thatz what I have been sayin' all day..I'm wid u
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QUOTE(Tal_Dara @ Feb 16 2004, 8:13 PM) Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread. Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why? 1.) Abortion 2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves) 3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget) Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it. they all should be illegal |
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Okay, people are going to hate me for this, but I think they should ALL be LEGAL under certain circumstances. Keep in mind I'm not telling you to do these things. You are human, you have a choice, and your choice is yours, and soley yours, and not mine.
1. Abortion - Legal People have the right to choose. They don't want to bring a baby into the world, they're not ready, the world might not treat the child fairly, etc. It's not like I don't like life, or like I don't want the kid to live, it's just that it's not my choice (or anybody's) to make. And if they do choose this route (as opposed to having the kid, giving it up to adoption, leaving it on the side of the road, putting it in a SafeHaven etc), I hope that they can. 2. Assisted Suicide - Legal Picture having such an ailment that is so painful you have take a handful or three of pills a day, that have such side-effects that include puking, dizziness, nausea, headaches, loss of appetite, tremors, drowziness, blood clotting, etc., you don't even feel like a human being anymore, you have tubes and wires entering and exiting various parts of your body, you can't live life to it's fullest because you're stuck in bed bleeding from your ulcers. You want to kill yourself, but you can't do it alone because you already feel so wretched and you are in so much pain you can't even move. Don't you wish that doctor was there, with syringe in hand, ready to make you finally at peace? 3. Euthanasia - Legal I think this is already legal, isn't it? Someone is suffering from intolerable pain, someone isn't even conscious anymore (comatose, brain dead, etc), what's the point of keeping them alive when you can help them reach a point of peace, as well as donate their organs to someone who might want to live and needs an organ? I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but this is the way I feel. I hope religious people won't come kick my ass. I'm sorry! But the way I feel is backed by reasoning! At least I'm not blatantly saying, "NO!" or "YES!" |
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1 - I think that abortion should be legal. I am not saying that I personally would choose this option if I were to get pregnant, but I think that people should still have the option. What if a girl was raped and got pregnant as a result? Yes, there is adoption, but is it really her responsibility to carry out the pregnancy she had nothing to do with? Also, some women are too ill to carry out a pregnancy without putting their own lives in danger... they shouldn't have to face that. And sometimes mistakes do happen. I don't really like the idea of people using it as 'birth control', but I think that if somebody becomes pregnant at a time which is really going to affect the rest of her life (such as in high school or college) she should be able to have that option...
2 - I think that this should be illegal. As horrible as this is probably going to sound, if a person is really suffering to a degree in which they feel they need to end their life, I think that they shouldn't try to drag another person into the situation to help them do it. If they feel that they need to die that badly, they should take care of buisness themself, it wouldn't lead to problems for the 'assistor' in their life later on... 3 - I think that this one should be legal. If somebody was in a horrible accident and lost all of their brain activity and were only being kept alive by machines, what good would it be? |
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Feb 16 2004, 9:38 PM) all of that should be illegal. abortion...seriously, its the killing of other human being, regardless of its a cell.. its still killing it. euthanasia...nah, it shouldnt be illegal. what about people in a vegetable state? assisted suicide...omg..make it stop! Abortion should be legal. It's a cell, but it's not truly reached the point of LIFE yet, so technically you're not killing it. Assisted Suicide isn't good. ILLEGAL IT DAMMIT. It's like murder. Or accomplices. The assistor gets blamed for the real guy's problems-a whipping boy. This should be legal but only to a certain extent. If someone murdered someone else, they could be saying it was because that person was in critical condition, and therefore they had the right to kill them, when the victim may not have really had wanted it to happen. I know, I don't make sense. ![]() |
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I know this one krn grl but i dont think shes having an abortion
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1. i think abortions should be leagal becuase not only can a baby destroy a young woman's life, it can destroy the childs'. i mean, say the mom is 14... or even 12.... how is the girl suposed to take care of that baby? but then there's adoption.... it's a wonderful thing. but preganancy at such a young age can be fatal to the baby anyway.... and the mom too.
2. the whole asisted suicide i dont like. i for one understand suicide and do believe that if it comes to it, something must be done, but you dont help someone do it. you help them by being at their side and trying to help them through good times and bad. 3. i do agree with the pulling the plug thing. at some point life can be torture and last that way the rest of the journy. i dont believe in torture so if it came down to it... i know i'd want to die so give the person some help. ~Julia~ xoxo *smooches* |
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Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread. Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why? 1.) Abortion 2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves) 3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget) Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it. euthansiA is actually painful,AND this shit Can be abused, its illegal in SA but its weird ad questinable. militias killing all pEopling anyways |
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1. I'm not really sure about this one. Yes, it is killing a human, but if someone raped me and I became pregnant, I would want to have an abortion. So it could go either way.
2. I find this one stupid. If you want to take your own life, then go ahead. Why make someone else's life miserable watching a person die by their own hand? Include the fact that they might be suspected in killing that person. 3. This one I am also no sure on. If it was my pet that was dying from some painful disease, I would like to put it our of its misery and let it go to heaven, a more happier place. With other animals, I don't know what I would do. |
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I feel this is more appropriate in Debate. Feel free to disagree.
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1) Abortion - definately should not be used as a form of "birth control". If someone just "accidentally" gets pregnat by fooling around, then thats their problem. They did it knowing that getting pregnat would be a possibility. BUT, if a woman/girl has been raped, if the mothers life is in danger, or if doctors think the child will be born severely disabled - then I think it should be allowed, with consent of a judge or something. But then again, if it's made illegal, people are still going to do it, in an unsafe way.
2)assisted suicide What the heck? No. 3) Euthanasia Yes, I think it should be allowed, ESPECIALLY for cancer patients. Cancer patients have to suffer so much before dying. If someone has been diagnosed with being terminally ill with any disease, and are suffering, then they have every right to be euthanized... its so much more of a peaceful way of going. But when it comes to people who have been injured and are on forms of life support, then no... unless they've been on it for awhile and are showing no signs of improvement. My cousin was in a wreck 2 years ago and was on lung dialysis for 3 weeks, and kidney dialysis for over a month - and only had a 5-10% chance of partially recovering with his kidneys. But somehow he's totally fine now. So in cases like that, there's always the possibility of someone being able to bounce back. |
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Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread. Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why? 1.) Abortion 2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves) 3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget) Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it. 1. No. It shouldn't be legal because the Preamble states that our prodginy[sp?] have the same rights as we do. 2. I feel that suicide in general is wrong, so for me to say that this would be right is hypocritical. I'm religious, so most of you probably won't agree. 3. First of all...Hitler didn't mercy kill the Jews. He did it out of hatred because he felt they were inferior to the Aryan race. Pain is apart of life. Just because you have pain that doesn't give you the right to kill some one. That's like saying that I killed my friend because he was really depressed and he asked me to do it. Would I get arrested and eventually convicted of a murder? Yes. Why is this any better? |
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Here is my thing on abortion....YOU CAN BE PRO-LIFE IN A PRO-CHOICE WORLD!!! I would never abort my baby but that is a choice that i make. So really if you are against abortion then DONT DO IT! its as simple as that. Dont make other people suffer just because of your own personal beleifs.
now about asissted sucide, DEFINITLE NOT! This is not somthing that should be legal, no ones life is so bad that it cant get better. And its completely wrong to help someone kill anyone.... now heres the part where ill probably sound like a total hypocryte, but... Mercy killing is ok, because If someone is in so much pain that they are suffering everyday, or if they are in a vegitative state that they can not come out of, then why not? you are helping them. And hitler DID NOT USE EUTHENASIA ON THE JEWS. he MURDERED THEM geuss what people...THATS DIFFERENT! |
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Ok I am going to ask a serious question, and I want serious answers to them. So if you are going to be dumb about it then dont reply to this thread. Should these things be legal/illegal in the United States and why? 1.) Abortion 2.) Assisted Suicide (in otherwards you assist someone into killing themselves) 3.) Euthanasia (basically this is also known as a mercy killing, like if someone is in pain and you pull th plug, of course Hitler used Euthenasia on the Jews dont forget) Like I said serious replies only please. This question came up in my Political Science class, and I found it very interesting. I then decided to see what others felt about it. Hitler practiced eugenics, a social philosophy to eliminate/purge society of the "undesirables" (disabled, certain races). Not euthanasia. 1) We have an abortion thread for a reason. It is a tired and seemingly endless argument. I've participated in this several times. I'm not going to do it again in reply to three questions. Nonetheless, pro-choice. 2) We also have a thread of this. 3) In extreme, terminal illness cases. Under heavy supervision. |
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1.) Abortion--I too am kind of neutral in this area. I really think it all depends on the kind of situtation you're in. I mean, for example, if you were a rape victim, and became pregnant that way, I could definitely see why you would want an abortion. I could never imagine telling my child that they were a mistake, they weren't supposed to be here, they were a "rape child", and why daddy is never there. DEFINITELY not in those exact words, but that's just to be short, blunt, and to the point. You could adopt, but I personally would be afraid because the child might want to--one day--meet the real parents.
In other cases, however, where the women was just too lazy to take birth control pills, or forgot to, or the man refused to put the condom on, etc., that's inexcusable. That is where, I think, abortion should NOT be used. Adoption is fine, I suppose, but abortion is unfair. 2.) Assisted Suicide--I think this should definitely be illegal. Period. There's not really an explanation to this. 3.) Euthanasia--This one..this one I'm not quite sure on. Once again, as with the abortion matter, I think it could go either way depending on the situation. If someone is absolutely in pain, suffering and such, terminal illness, etc., then I think it's okay. But otherwise, meh, not really. So yeah...hope you all like my opinions on the matter. |
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