inception Options

[*futura*]

I still haven't seen this. Anyone?

[Saraaaah]

I watched it at like 11:30ish last night at a drive-in, and it was amazing!
Albeit there were some confusing parts but that could be because I'm not a very intellectual person.

[Joanne]

I have to wait till Friday.


I can't wait to see my JGL in a suit.

[creole]

i think i'm mesmerized by this movie. bet this movie might be a nominee for best picture for this year.

[*futura*]

I have to wait till Friday.
I can't wait to see my JGL in a suit.

hnggggggggg, all I have to say.

i think i'm mesmerized by this movie. bet this movie might be a nominee for best picture for this year.

concur

[slipper]

omg. if you love smart action films, with great effects, acting and amazing star, this is for you.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm still trippin.

[Joanne]

hnggggggggg, all I have to say.

SO MANY PEOPLE who previously thought JGL was ugly and/or too scrawny are now eating their words and drooling over him after having watched Inception.

I don't know whether to be happy (YAY PEOPLE FINALLY AGREE) or pissed off (HE'S MINE, BACK THE f*ck OFF).

[slipper]

^ lol he's so hott. loved his character in inception.

[creole]

lol my aunty did not understand this movie, but i can't wait to seee this

[none345678]

I didn't get confused really at all, but f*cking great movie. When I saw the previews I honestly thought it was going to be kinda lame for whatever reason. But dam was I so so wrong.

Many many sexy people is a plus too.

[gojira]

SO MANY PEOPLE who previously thought JGL was ugly and/or too scrawny are now eating their words and drooling over him after having watched Inception.

I don't know whether to be happy (YAY PEOPLE FINALLY AGREE) or pissed off (HE'S MINE, BACK THE f*ck OFF).

it was this movie that made his hype? he should have gotten recognition from 500 days of summer.

anyway, he was impeccably dressed in inception.

[none345678]

I feel like 500 Days of Summer flew under a lot of people's radar. (love that movie though)

I don't know the actress who played Mal, but damn I thought she was pretty.

[gojira]

are you a burton fan? i only remember her from big fish.

she did look stunning in this movie

[creole]

it was this movie that made his hype? he should have gotten recognition from 500 days of summer.

anyway, he was impeccably dressed in inception.

hehehe it should've been Romeo + Juliet back then..

[*futura*]

SO MANY PEOPLE who previously thought JGL was ugly and/or too scrawny are now eating their words and drooling over him after having watched Inception.

I don't know whether to be happy (YAY PEOPLE FINALLY AGREE) or pissed off (HE'S MINE, BACK THE f*ck OFF).

hahaha ily Joanne
but I know! everyone's like "HE'S SUCH A BABE."
and it's like...you're just noticing now?

[Joanne]

I didn't get confused really at all, but f*cking great movie.

This. It wasn't very hard to understand... Nolan did a great job with the explaining and the story telling.

it was this movie that made his hype? he should have gotten recognition from 500 days of summer.

I feel like 500 Days of Summer flew under a lot of people's radar. (love that movie though)

I thought he was absolutely adorable in 500 Days of Summer, but after having watched it a second time, I noticed how his character isn't exactly an ideal man. Still hot, still sweet,... but a pussy. I guess?

anyway, he was impeccably dressed in inception.

Yes. f*cking yes.

hahaha ily Joanne
but I know! everyone's like "HE'S SUCH A BABE."
and it's like...you're just noticing now?

THIS.

[LittleMissSunshi...]

okay, i understood the whole movie, except the ending. anyone want to care to explain!?

so at the end when he spins the topper, it stays spinning, meaning he was in a dream?

[Joanne]

okay, i understood the whole movie, except the ending. anyone want to care to explain!?

so at the end when he spins the topper, it stays spinning, meaning he was in a dream?

I think it's up to your own interpretation.

[none345678]

^This

Personally I don't think he was since in a dream it spun much more constant and never wobbled. And it would be lame if he was still in a dream.

[Joanne]

^This

Personally I don't think he was since in a dream it spun much more constant and never wobbled. And it would be lame if he was still in a dream.

Same here. I like to believe that it's not a dream, because the thought of it being a dream is just too too depressing to me. My friend is convinced that Mal was right all along, that they're still in dreamland. He says that Cobbs thought Mal was referring to the dream they made together, when she was really referring to the real real world Cobbs didn't understand (did that make sense?). He says that, when Mal shows up in Cobbs' dreams, it was really her trying to do inception on him through the real world.

My friend also thinks that Cobbs' totem doesn't really work because it was originally Mal's. Cobbs mentioned several times in the movie that you shouldn't let other people become familiarized with your totem.

While his interpretation makes sense to me, I don't want to believe it. We've had a few arguments since watching the movie, lol.

[saintsaens]

keep in mind the children look exactly the same from when he dreamed of them and when he actually arrived with his children

that being said i believe it was a dream and the movie was more so a complicated tale to help leonardo's character to find resolve with his wife

and i think the wobbling with the top spinner is implying that his dreams became his reality keep in mind the top doesnt actually stop spinning, it just wobbles



This post has been edited by spambot: Jul 26 2010, 03:36 PM

Reason for edit: idk if spoilers are really needed but just in case.

[none345678]

Well damn. Now I don't know what to think. A lot of people said they left it open for a inception 2, I don't think it will happen though.

[Joanne]

keep in mind the children look exactly the same from when he dreamed of them and when he actually arrived with his children

Yeah, I noticed that, but I didn't think too much into it. I thought it was kind of unimportant... but I don't know. Eh.

the movie was more so a complicated tale to help leonardo's character to find resolve with his wife

Yeah. The whole scheme to perform inception on Fischer was definitely just a subplot.

[lojay]

I thought the movie had a great storyline that was easy for the viewer to follow.

As for the ending...

I personally think that it isn't a dream even though the totem is still spinning. I consider each dream to be a different level. So there is the planning level (same level as on the airplane), the city level with the bridge, the level in the hotel, the level in Fishcher's mind, and then the level in Cobb/Mal's world together. Now, in the Planning level, the totem wobbles and falls (remember, when he is explaining it to Ariadne). This is the same level as when they were on the plane, as when they got off the plane, and when he went home - all the same level; if the totem fell earlier he can't be dreaming in this level. I really think it is just a cliffhanger meant to think about it and throw you off a little bit. This is the theory I'm kind of sticking with.

I also thought maybe it wasn't actually the same level because when he woke up from the dream on the plane, he wasn't equipped to the dream machine so maybe he went into another level of dream...

And I also thought about how for him to go back and find Saito must have taken a lot of dreams... Because there is the level with Cobb and Mal where Ariadne leaves, so he must have gone into 3 more dreams for Saito to be as old as he was at the end/start. Because... if the first dream is 5 minutes but feels like an hour... the 2nd feels like 10 hours, 3rd a week, 4th a month, 5th a year, 6th 10 years, 7th 100 years? (I don't entirely remember the way it worked) It seems like, if Cobb only went to his world with Mal that is only his 4th level. He needs to go into 3 more levels of dreams before he gets to a dream where Cobb has been in limbo long enough to be that old... But... Then I don't understand why he isn't old either. Clearly that theory is flawed.

[none345678]

I thought the movie had a great storyline that was easy for the viewer to follow.

As for the ending...

I personally think that it isn't a dream even though the totem is still spinning. I consider each dream to be a different level. So there is the planning level (same level as on the airplane), the city level with the bridge, the level in the hotel, the level in Fishcher's mind, and then the level in Cobb/Mal's world together. Now, in the Planning level, the totem wobbles and falls (remember, when he is explaining it to Ariadne). This is the same level as when they were on the plane, as when they got off the plane, and when he went home - all the same level; if the totem fell earlier he can't be dreaming in this level. I really think it is just a cliffhanger meant to think about it and throw you off a little bit. This is the theory I'm kind of sticking with.

I also thought maybe it wasn't actually the same level because when he woke up from the dream on the plane, he wasn't equipped to the dream machine so maybe he went into another level of dream...

And I also thought about how for him to go back and find Saito must have taken a lot of dreams... Because there is the level with Cobb and Mal where Ariadne leaves, so he must have gone into 3 more dreams for Saito to be as old as he was at the end/start. Because... if the first dream is 5 minutes but feels like an hour... the 2nd feels like 10 hours, 3rd a week, 4th a month, 5th a year, 6th 10 years, 7th 100 years? (I don't entirely remember the way it worked) It seems like, if Cobb only went to his world with Mal that is only his 4th level. He needs to go into 3 more levels of dreams before he gets to a dream where Cobb has been in limbo long enough to be that old... But... Then I don't understand why he isn't old either. Clearly that theory is flawed.

I am not sure If fallow you, but the plane and what not isn't a level, it's real life, and since he woke up after Fischer the others took all the tubes/wires off him (I would be freaked if I woke up next to a guy with a strange machine on him). The Asian dude (can't think of his name) had been in the 4th level fore a long time (dream time) He dies right after he threw the grenade so he was in the 4th level for awhile before Cobb even got done dealing with Mol, so the fact that he (the azn dude) was so old made since.

The top always seemed to work (he was constantly checking and since mol is dead I think it doesn't matter that it used to be hers since Cobb is still the only alive person who knows it's special qualities)which is why I don't think it was defective meaning he would find out pretty fast if he was dreaming.

[AngryBaby]

top wobbled.

that was enough for me to say it wasn't a dream. those physics wouldn't come into play

[Joanne]

Now, in the Planning level, the totem wobbles and falls (remember, when he is explaining it to Ariadne). This is the same level as when they were on the plane, as when they got off the plane, and when he went home - all the same level; if the totem fell earlier he can't be dreaming in this level.

I brought this up with my skeptical friend and he brought up the fact that the totem probably doesn't work properly for Cobbs because it was originally Mal's. And given how he stressed the importance of keeping your totem to yourself (so only you know the specifics of it), his totem isn't exactly reliable.

[lojay]

I am not sure If fallow you, but the plane and what not isn't a level, it's real life, and since he woke up after Fischer the others took all the tubes/wires off him (I would be freaked if I woke up next to a guy with a strange machine on him). The Asian dude (can't think of his name) had been in the 4th level fore a long time (dream time) He dies right after he threw the grenade so he was in the 4th level for awhile before Cobb even got done dealing with Mol, so the fact that he (the azn dude) was so old made since.

The top always seemed to work (he was constantly checking and since mol is dead I think it doesn't matter that it used to be hers since Cobb is still the only alive person who knows it's special qualities)which is why I don't think it was defective meaning he would find out pretty fast if he was dreaming.

I think you followed pretty well... And yeah, that isn't really a dream level... I just counted it as a level to reduce confusion - I guess, or stress that it was the same stage as when they were planning. They were planning in reality and he went home in reality. Otherwise, what you are saying about the IV makes sense.

The Asian dude was Saito, haha. So you're saying that since he was in limbo so long in the 4th stagethat is why he was able to age so rapidly, where Cobb did not age since he wasn't in limbo in the 4th stage? I mean, I guess that works, but when you think about it the 4th stage only lasts a month in dream time... so how could he put on so many years in just a month? The only reason I can think to justify this is that maybe while in limbo you age faster? I don't even know how I could support that.

I brought this up with my skeptical friend and he brought up the fact that the totem probably doesn't work properly for Cobbs because it was originally Mal's. And given how he stressed the importance of keeping your totem to yourself (so only you know the specifics of it), his totem isn't exactly reliable.

I don't know if it being Mal's top and not his has anything to do with the ending or not. I still think that it is just a cliffhanger. Not saying that you are wrong. It makes sense, but I don't know if I actually buy it.

[AngryBaby]

[Joanne]

The only reason I can think to justify this is that maybe while in limbo you age faster? I don't even know how I could support that.

They said in the film many times that, the deeper you go into the unconscious (the more level of dreams you go into), the faster time goes by. So a couple hours in real life would feel like years (maybe even decades?) in limbo.

I don't know if it being Mal's top and not his has anything to do with the ending or not. I still think that it is just a cliffhanger. Not saying that you are wrong. It makes sense, but I don't know if I actually buy it.

Yeah I like to believe that Cobbs is back in real life and that it's just a cliffhanger too. I'm just simply giving you the reasons my friend gave me.

[gojira]

nothing 2 do wit movie but not sure if you saw joanne

[Joanne]

I've seen pictures of him on set for this movie, but I hadn't seen this no...

Thanks Sandy!! I hear it's a really great film... I'm so excited!!!!

[none345678]

He is def. a tie and suit guy lol. He was much more sharply dressed in Inception then in 500 days and I think that may also be one of the reasons way everyone is just now noticing he's perrtty-ness. (not that he looked bad in 500 days of Summer)

I am looking forward to Hasher too. That scene is great.

[LittleMissSunshi...]

WTFFFFFFFF YALL JUST CONFUSED ME EVEN MOREEEEE!!! -_____-

[batman]

SO MANY PEOPLE who previously thought JGL was ugly and/or too scrawny are now eating their words and drooling over him after having watched Inception.

I don't know whether to be happy (YAY PEOPLE FINALLY AGREE) or pissed off (HE'S MINE, BACK THE f*ck OFF).

I HAVE LOVED HIM SINCE 10 THINGS I HATE ABOUT YOU :D

I just saw this movie. I liked it a lot (maybe even loved it), but... as with every good thing that gets killed by over-attention, I think that it was definitely overhyped. The premise is amazing and I love the main plot and the subplot, the casting, the acting, the effects, and everything... but it just didn't live up to my expectations. I think I should watch it again though, just to catch nuances I didn't notice the first time around.

Plus, note to self: tumblr kills everything. I think my tumblr dashboard is what killed Inception for me.

[none345678]

I heard 3-5 people claim it to be there new favorite move, but that's about it (I originally thought it was going to be shitty, but when I went to the movies to originally see predators and found that that wasn't playing I saw this instead) I can understand that the longer people wait the more you will here the "over hyped" comment.

I know a lot of movies are ruined for me by being over hyped. (took me forever to watch the hangover)

[misoshiru]

I HAVE LOVED HIM SINCE 10 THINGS I HATE ABOUT YOU :D

me2

[misoshiru]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tu...AnV4xfH9P8Xo%3D

don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet

[batman]

Ok, question...

If Mam and Cobbs were able to escape the "limbo" place by dying, why couldn't the Asian guy just kill himself by like.. jumping off a cliff or something? Why did he have to wait for Cobbs to come kill him?

[Joanne]

Ok, question...

If Mam and Cobbs were able to escape the "limbo" place by dying, why couldn't the Asian guy just kill himself by like.. jumping off a cliff or something? Why did he have to wait for Cobbs to come kill him?

Did Cobbs end up killing Saito while they were in limbo together? I can't really remember... I thought Cobbs just went to find Saito and to give him some kind of 'kick' or something.

The reason why Cobbs and Mal were able to escape limbo through death was because they weren't using a powerful sedative that prevented them from waking up.

[none345678]

Because cobb and mol were not in limbo but...ok I don't know how to explain it lol. But they were just hooked up to one of those machines, not as heavily sedated as the team was. So maybe that has something to do with it? I am starting to forget some of the details.

[rAwritsgWeg]

Yea, seen it four times in IMAX. The soundtrack is amazing as well.

[rAwritsgWeg]

The whole point of that scene was just saying how he did his first inception. It's effects put her mind in the mindset that she was still dreaming, and needed to die to see her kids again.

This post has been edited by tokyo-rose: Jul 29 2010, 04:16 PM

Reason for edit: Added spoiler tags. - Cristy

[batman]

^

1. use spoiler tags
2. obviously. i don't think you understood the question.

[gojira]

this probably doesn't explain much but from a blog

Why is Saito such an old man in limbo, whereas Cobb is still young?
Cobb obviously enters limbo after Saito, thus giving the latter more time to age. Without Nolan establishing an exact span of time between when each enters, it's impossible to say whether Saito is "too old", but a drastic difference is consistent with the events of the film.

i forget what's explained in the movie so i don't know perfect explanation for why saito doesn't just kill himself to wake up. i think he needed to be rescue in level 5 to be rescued because if he 'died' too early then he'd be stuck in limbo. here's a conversation

Cobb: Don't do that. Don't do that!
Eames: He's in agony, I'm waking him up.
Cobb: No. It won't wake him up.
Eames: What do you mean it won't wake him up...
Cobb: It won't wake him up.
Eames: ...if we die in a dream we wake up.
Yusuf: Not from this. We're too heavily sedated to wake up that way.
Eames: Right. So what happens when we die?
Cobb: We drop into limbo.
Arthur: Are you serious?!
Ariadne: Limbo?!
Arthur: Unconstructed dream space.
Ariadne: Well, what the hell is down there?
Arthur: Just raw, infinite subconscious. Nothing is down there. Except for whatever might have been left behind by anyone sharing the dream who's been trapped there before. Which in our case is just you.
Ariadne: Well, how long can we be stuck there?
Yusuf: Can't even think about trying to escape until the sedation...
Eames: How long?!
Yusuf: Decades. It could be infinite. I don't know. Ask him. He's the one who's been there.
Arthur: Let's get him upstairs.


*spoiler image* not sure if this image will help you guys, here

[tokyo-rose]

^

1. use spoiler tags
2. obviously. i don't think you understood the question.

Just got the movie spoiled for doing mod duties. What is this. :'(

[slipper]

ah man, now that im not as excited and hyped about it.. kinda talked to one of my friends about this film more.. this movie is actually flawed and contradicts itself. but i still liked it, good film, and entertaining lol

spoiler - why was everyone so scared of going to the last level? since leo and his wife got out by killing themselves. and the kicks only happened when they wanted it to- the white van rolling around didn't wake them up? how..

This post has been edited by spambot: Jul 30 2010, 11:53 PM

Reason for edit: add spoliers next time

[gojira]

imo it wasn't flawed, it might just be your friend didn't understand it.

explaining last level - "By the time you reach the Limbo state it can be so difficult to wake, and the dream can feel so vividly real, that the mind stops trying to wake at all – the mind accepts the dream as its reality, like slipping into a coma."

"Cobb and Mal were trapped in Limbo for 50 years, unaware that their world wasn't real. Cobb eventually discovered the truth, but Mal refused to accept it. In order to get Mal to kill herself and return to the real world, Cobb performed Inception on her, planting the idea that the world wasn't real in her mind. This worked, they killed themselves and escaped Limbo. Unfortunatley, the idea remained in Mal's mind and once they returned, she was unable to accept that the real world wasn't a dream."

not sure if this definition of a kick answers your question - "A Kick: By upsetting the equilibrium of a dreamer you can wake them from a dream and return them to reality. If you’re dreaming a dream within a dream, each level of the dream has to have its own Kick in order for the one on the higher level to work. So Arthur blew up the elevator to wake them up from the snow fortress dream so they could then be woken up by the car hitting the water. "


if this did not answer your questions, go watch the movie. also if you enjoyed memento, i'm 100% sure you would enjoy this movie. edit: didn't even fully read your post, ahaha. you've read it. well statement applies to anyone who did not see it.

[none345678]

I don't think it has any flaws at all. With a movie like this I am 100% sure the writers would go to great lengths to make sure everything was solid.

[gojira]

i agree 100% but especially knowing it took him 10 years to fully develop the script.

i'm going to say this and this ain't even one of my favorite films of all time. if it took me 10 years to complete a painting, it better be a f*cking masterpiece.

[batman]

I agree that there probably aren't many flaws in the movie/plot/etc if any. It's just a confusing concept, especially after only seeing it once. I think I'll need to watch it a few more times to be able to understand it 100%.

[gojira]

that's a better idea than talking to your peers about it. i swear after hearing every pov, it started to obscure my original interpretation. they feed you their take, then the plot holes that supposedly supports their ending.

[Joanne]

i swear after hearing every pov, it started to obscure my original interpretation. they feed you their take, then the plot holes that supposedly supports their ending.

[datass]

so good. shit. i'll have to watch this again to enjoy it more.

[synapse]

A coworker of mine believes that his entire experience in the movie is in a dream. I disagree, I think the ending he was back in reality. Ellen page is growing up well.

[datass]

so i read some trivia that at the end of the credits, you can hear the top topple over, meaning that the end is reality. hmmmm i gotta see this again to know for sure.

[Tomates]

so i read some trivia that at the end of the credits, you can hear the top topple over, meaning that the end is reality. hmmmm i gotta see this again to know for sure.

I heard that a lot of people who saw it again were able to understand it a ton more.

[Blyat]

Ill watch it 2 times in one day! :D

I wanna see this movie sooo bad!

[Gigi]

Finally watched this. Was smart enough not to read any in-depth reviews of it so as to not overhype it for myself.

WAS. AWESOME. Personally I didn't find it too hard to follow as long as you pay attention to the movie. Which isn't hard because it was entertaining to me for the entire duration.

IMO it's not a dream. The top wobbled. That's good enough for me.

I did some really brief Googling, and although this is really poorly written, it actually makes a bit of sense...

i think he was awake at the end and i dont think it makes sense that the wife is in his mind trying to wake him up or perform inception bcuz y wud she b such a bitch in his dreams.. this just encourages his thoughts that it is his subconscious projecting in her image bcuz as he says at the end to her, he cudnt recreate her in fullness, if she really wanted to convince him she wud act like herself and not sum crazy B

Mmhm. She really was a crazy B.

okay, no more Inception debating for now, gonna get some rest before I think about it some more...

[Gigi]

BURNING QUESTION (after thoroughly confusing myself)

How does one wake oneself from the Limbo state/level? Do you just kill yourself like Mal and Cobb did before?

If that's the case, why did they make such a big deal about not killing yourself under the heavy sedative cus you'll just go into Limbo? Is it because Mal/Cobb from before did not have heavy sedation?

But if that's the case, how can they stay sleeping since dreams within dreams make disruption much easier?

Okay, if Cobb really did end up finding Saito in Limbo and really did end up seeing his kids, how did Cobb/Saito wake themselves? Was there another kick?

Ariadne seemed unconcerned when telling the others Cobb was still in Limbo trying to find Saito, like it was easy to wake them with a kick later. Did they just synchronise another bunch of kicks through the different levels? But then how could they possibly know when Cobb actually found Saito and therefore time the kicks properly?

Also, if Cobb/Saito are stuck in Limbo and the others have already waken up from the previous dream levels, who's left to synchronise the kicks on the previous dream levels to kick Cobb/Saito back up through all the levels back to reality?

wow. essay. okay.

[none345678]

^I was thinking that maybe since everyone woke up first they took cobb and Saito off the sedatives? (since they did wake up without them on) So that made limbo easy to get out of? I am forgetting some of the details to the movie now, so I can't even remember what Cobb and Saito did to get out of limbo in the first place.

[Joanne]

IMO it's not a dream. The top wobbled. That's good enough for me.

Agreed.

How does one wake oneself from the Limbo state/level? Do you just kill yourself like Mal and Cobb did before?

If that's the case, why did they make such a big deal about not killing yourself under the heavy sedative cus you'll just go into Limbo? Is it because Mal/Cobb from before did not have heavy sedation?

But if that's the case, how can they stay sleeping since dreams within dreams make disruption much easier?

Okay, if Cobb really did end up finding Saito in Limbo and really did end up seeing his kids, how did Cobb/Saito wake themselves? Was there another kick?

Also, if Cobb/Saito are stuck in Limbo and the others have already waken up from the previous dream levels, who's left to synchronise the kicks on the previous dream levels to kick Cobb/Saito back up through all the levels back to reality?

Here's what I think (and I don't know if this helps or even makes sense... maybe I'm just going in circles):
The reason why they made a big deal about how killing yourself in a dream while under sedation brings you to Limbo was because Limbo does crazy things to the way you think; it makes you question what 'reality' really is.

Because of this, Cobb needed to go into Limbo to save Saito because Saito was stuck in Limbo, possibly thinking he was in reality. Saito probably knew in the back of his mind that it was really dreamland (that's why he asked Cobb if he was there to kill him?), but I guess people get so mindf*cked in Limbo that it's hard for them to know for sure.

And I think Cobb just killed themselves while in Limbo to get back to reality, as he did with Mal. I'm not sure because I really don't remember that part anymore...

Damn, I've got to watch this movie again.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. You know how Cobb said to Mal, "But we DID spend a lifetime together" and they cut to a shot of them grey and old? If they really did spend all that time in Limbo, how come they're young in that scene when they're on the train tracks?



Shit, so many spoiler tags, my eyes hurt.

[saintsaens]

Jesus Christ yall need to learn up on dreams

Limbo is a state of eternal nothing, similar to purgatory

DiCaprio and that Japanese dude fell into limbo and they were both living dreams not realizing that they were living in a dream, that being said the kick that brought them back from their dream state was them remembering the phrase and the promise that the japanese dude lent to DiCaprio....you see them both trying to remember the phrase which kicks them back from a dream world to their original objectives

it's like a dream where you swear to god you know the answer....but it's right on the tip of your tongue...

the theory is that once you fall into limbo...there's no getting out. it's like cheating death to fall back from limbo to reality.

the reason why limbo is such a dangerous place to be is because you lose yourself, and you lose concept of time and self...you age infinitely and by the time you come back if you do, chances are you won't come out correctly because you aged almost to death

obstructions and distractions in dreams come from when you (ego and subconscious) start to realize that you are dreaming and that is when your world that you're dreaming in falls to pieces because your brain is understanding that nothing exists in the dream

they took sedatives and used that machine to fall asleep for consistency...it's like a control since most humans take different methods to falling asleep

[saintsaens]

time means almost nothing in a dream

[*futura*]

I personally think he was still dreaming at the end, because why were his kids wearing the same clothes? Where the hell was the grandma?

Did anyone else notice he was wearing his wedding ring when he was in dreams and wasn't wearing one when he was in reality? I'm pretty sure he was wearing one at the very end.

[Blyat]

I finally saw it

I loved it!!!!

[Tomates]

I really liked it. I would definitely go see it again.

[saintsaens]

Did you guys go watch it together? kawaii

[sixfive]

uso had to rewatch because beak got int he way

[Tomates]

Did you guys go watch it together? kawaii

Yeah we did.

uso had to rewatch because beak got int he way

Wanna stop? I mean really its starting to really hurt my feelings.

[sixfive]

not really

[queen]

finally saw it and loved it. the movie wasn't overhyped for me because i stayed away from reading reviews and watching multiple trailers.

I personally think he was still dreaming at the end, because why were his kids wearing the same clothes? Where the hell was the grandma?

Did anyone else notice he was wearing his wedding ring when he was in dreams and wasn't wearing one when he was in reality? I'm pretty sure he was wearing one at the very end.

the kids were wearing different clothes and were older. he was not wearing a ring at the end.

[*futura*]

where was the grandma though?
i have to watch this again.

[Blyat]

I personally think he was still dreaming at the end, because why were his kids wearing the same clothes? Where the hell was the grandma?

Did anyone else notice he was wearing his wedding ring when he was in dreams and wasn't wearing one when he was in reality? I'm pretty sure he was wearing one at the very end.

My boyfriend thought the same exact thing

and I never noticed that!

But I think it might of been reality because it limbo did start to shake in the end, and in the dream it was always in a stern spin

[sixfive]

It was reality. I don't see how so many people are confused by this. There were five levels of dreaming. There were rules as to why everything happened. The very end was not in fact a dream, it was wobbling at the end. In the dream it maintained a perfect spin once it got going, never wobbling at all. Maybe Grandma was cooking a pie? In the dream she was always there to call them away, this was atypical from that.

[Blyat]

It was reality. I don't see how so many people are confused by this. There were five levels of dreaming. There were rules as to why everything happened. The very end was not in fact a dream, it was wobbling at the end. In the dream it maintained a perfect spin once it got going, never wobbling at all. Maybe Grandma was cooking a pie? In the dream she was always there to call them away, this was atypical from that.

yeahhh thats what I said in a shorter version
I'm glad I'm not the only one ^^

[none345678]

It was reality. I don't see how so many people are confused by this. There were five levels of dreaming. There were rules as to why everything happened. The very end was not in fact a dream, it was wobbling at the end. In the dream it maintained a perfect spin once it got going, never wobbling at all. Maybe Grandma was cooking a pie? In the dream she was always there to call them away, this was atypical from that.

Well a lot of people say the top wasn't effective because both mol and the Asian dude touched it (I personally don't think it matters since mol was dead and the Asian dude was dreaming when he touched it) and the grandma thing is just pointless to bring up. I am with you. He was awake.

Either way:

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[datass]

^lol what's up w/ the photo of jgl?

[*futura*]

It was reality. I don't see how so many people are confused by this. There were five levels of dreaming. There were rules as to why everything happened. The very end was not in fact a dream, it was wobbling at the end. In the dream it maintained a perfect spin once it got going, never wobbling at all. Maybe Grandma was cooking a pie? In the dream she was always there to call them away, this was atypical from that.

This was my pov in the beginning.

But then

i swear after hearing every pov, it started to obscure my original interpretation. they feed you their take, then the plot holes that supposedly supports their ending.

And now I'm like idk bro

[iRapediCarly]

i thought the totem was just an inception performed on the wife, right?

[itskamanstar]

I saw the movie a few weeks ago. I love it. It's such a good movie.

I personally believe that the end was not a dream, although I've heard convincing evidence that it was.

You guys have listed almost all of the evidence, one other detail somebody pointed out to me was that at the end what Cobbs left the airport, all the people turned and stared at him as if he was an outside force in somebody else's dream.

I'd rather them not make a sequel, but if one is made it could be the team (minus Cobbs) having to traverse the limbo landscape and get Cobbs out. Or maybe if the ending was real, Cobbs gets called in for another job. And knowing Hollywood it would probably have to leave room for a third one... but whatever. DiCaprio doesn't do sequels anyway. When somebody asked him if there would be a sequel, he said the ending is really something that shouldn't be touched upon again, that it should be left alone, that he was invested in that ending. I can't imagine him wanting to do another one, unless the script is really, really good.

[sixfive]

You guys have listed almost all of the evidence, one other detail somebody pointed out to me was that at the end what Cobbs left the airport, all the people turned and stared at him as if he was an outside force in somebody else's dream.

They don't stare at outside forces, only if he changes things. He wasn't changing things.

[Joanne]

Wasn't it just the Fische and the members of Cobb's team that were staring at him?

[none345678]

^that's what I remember so I don't get why [people keep saying that everyone was staring.

[itskamanstar]

They don't stare at outside forces, only if he changes things. He wasn't changing things.

I'm not saying he was changing things, I think it's real. That's just something I heard (and I guess it's not true).

[iRapediCarly]

^more like you werent thinking at all and just absorbed information from your friend

[itskamanstar]

^more like you werent thinking at all and just absorbed information from your friend

When I heard it I honestly couldn't remember if they stared at him. I was just sharing. There's no need to be like that.

[iRapediCarly]

then share your own unique idea, mooching off someone else's opinion doesn't make you smarter

[itskamanstar]

then share your own unique idea, mooching off someone else's opinion doesn't make you smarter

I wasn't "mooching off" someone else's idea. I said someone pointed it out to me. Just because I mention something that might contribute to the discussion of this thread doesn't mean I'm trying to appear smart.

Actually I want to ask the thread something; the movie didn't explain where Cobbs originally got the dreaming device, right? Was it explained in the prequel comic? I mean the device isn't available to the public. It wasn't explained. Does anybody have an answer?

[none345678]

I wasn't "mooching off" someone else's idea. I said someone pointed it out to me. Just because I mention something that might contribute to the discussion of this thread doesn't mean I'm trying to appear smart.

Actually I want to ask the thread something; the movie didn't explain where Cobbs originally got the dreaming device, right? Was it explained in the prequel comic? I mean the device isn't available to the public. It wasn't explained. Does anybody have an answer?

Didn't he work for a sort of "company" type thing I just figured he got if from there. Forgetting so many details to the movie though.

[sixfive]

he was free lance he worked for whoever hired him

[Joanne]

Actually I want to ask the thread something; the movie didn't explain where Cobbs originally got the dreaming device, right? Was it explained in the prequel comic? I mean the device isn't available to the public. It wasn't explained. Does anybody have an answer?

Wait... prequel comic? Am I missing something here?

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. You can't expect Nolan to answer every little thing. I mean, if you're going to ask about the device, why not also ask where Arthur or Eames got their totems? Or how everyone go into the profession? Or any other detail that's not particularly important to the storyline?

[brooklyneast05]

i saw this. i liked it. the end didn't bother me. the shit wobbled, they said over and over that physics didn't matter in a dream, so why would it wobble in a dream? never did before. i'm fine with it.

[itskamanstar]

Wait... prequel comic? Am I missing something here?

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. You can't expect Nolan to answer every little thing. I mean, if you're going to ask about the device, why not also ask where Arthur or Eames got their totems? Or how everyone go into the profession? Or any other detail that's not particularly important to the storyline?

Yeah there's a prequel comic apparently. :P I haven't read it yet.

Yeah, that's true. I just thought it was weird- clearly the device wasn't available to the general public, but I guess it's not really important.

[datass]

awesome.

[iRapediCarly]

[datass]

[sixfive]

[brooklyneast05]

i used to read word up magazine. salt n pepa & heavy d up in the limousine. hangin pictures on my wall. every saturday, rap attack, mr. magic, marley marl

[lojay]

JGL apparently has a brother who is a fire spinner... who goes by Burning Dan.

And he even has a tumblr.

Interview with him here.

I take it you've seen 'Inception.'
Yes.

Care to sum it up?
'Inception' felt like the smartest movie since 'The Matrix,' and 'The Matrix' is really important to me. I can see little kids growing up really thinking about their dreams and what their reality is -- because they grew up playing 'Inception.' I find it unbelievably inspiring that they made such a huge movie that is truly and artistically relevant. It was so smart, it really made you think. I love the idea that this will help other movies take more risks and challenge people more and not be so formulaic. Just awesome.