do believe in the devil or jesus Options

[oBeBexImporto]

believe man

[SarahxJoy]

I'm a protestant, so Jesus.

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

You can't have one without the other. Both Satan and Jesus are real. Satan was an angel who challenged God. God then banished him from the Kingdom. I'm assuming this is more a question of who do you worship? I worship God and Jesus.

[skaterjswife2]

i be jewish.

[KnightOfChrono]

I believe whatever The Bible tells me.

[visualfusion]

Everything in this world is in opposites, so that means... Satan is the opposite of God... and without God, there would be no Satan.... but then it leads to the question of, if there was no God, would there be suffering? (That is supposidly caused by Satan)

[ComradeRed]

"the Lord hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet" (Nahum 1:3).

Do you believe that clouds are god's footprints?

[visualfusion]

Do you believe the rain's God's tears?

[onenonly101]

ok wow absolutely off subject. The Devil is real and so is God, now I follow God, not the devil

[joanna0304]

i believe in jesus

[princess2113]

i believe in both, they both exist...i worship Jesus

[ComradeRed]

What about Allah? Allah feels left out...

[AZN_DRAGON]

i belive in jesus

[EmeraldKnight]

Gah.. not more religion...

Its going to be the same thing over and over again..

Then again, I dont see ppl debating.. so shouldnt this be in lounge or something?

[Spirited Away]

Uhhhh, who would believe in the Devil and serve Him?

[EmeraldKnight]

Uhhhh, who would believe in the Devil and serve Him?

The Devil's advocate perhaps?

Haha I heve no idea what the heck I'm saying

[Spirited Away]

The Devil's advocate perhaps?

You mean... Keanu Reeves?

[EmeraldKnight]

You mean... Keanu Reeves? 

Erm.. I'm a little slow.......

[*CEP*]

Erm.. I'm a little slow....... 

It's a movie.
Starring Keanu.
devil's advocate

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[EmeraldKnight]

It's a movie.
Starring Keanu.
devil's advocate

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Oh right.. I remember that.. just didnt recognize the name

[*kryogenix*]

ok wow absolutely off subject. The Devil is real and so is God, now I follow God, not the devil

yeah, same here. but i think she was asking who do you support?

[angel-roh]

oh so this topic is about who u support...the devil or the jesus...right james? um... hmm... weird...why on earth do we wana support the devil? i mean all he give us is pain, stress, anger, and sadness to our lives... he destroy everything in our lives.. why do we wana support the devil when he's making everything miserable? Jesus helps you, he heals ur pain, he makes u happy, he tries to be there by your side every day and night... of course I love Jesus. and of course I will worship him and my heavenly father til the end.

[princess2113]

Uhhhh, who would believe in the Devil and serve Him?

well he exist so i believe in him as in i believe he exist...just like he believes Jesus exist...he just doesnt love Jesus...i DO NOT worship him or give him ANY praise or service

[Spirited Away]

well he exist so i believe in him as in i believe he exist...just like he believes Jesus exist...he just doesnt love Jesus...i DO NOT worship him or give him ANY praise or service

I don't think you understand my question... Well, it was meant to be a rhetorical question...

I meant that who would believe in the Devil (and His evils) and would want to serve/worship such evil. Yah?

[redsoxbaby87]

i dont believe in the devil or jesus. i am a jew and i believe in G-d. i think that this is a very limiting question and i also think that it was very stupid to say:

believe man

as the first post. it does not specify. it is also a very closeminded topic because it includes very few religions. you should open the spectrum more when you post.

um... hmm... weird...why on earth do we wana support the devil? i mean all he give us is pain, stress, anger, and sadness to our lives... he destroy everything in our lives.. why do we wana support the devil when he's making everything miserable?

what about people not from your religion. if i am not mistaken, this is not the christian forum and maybe people from other religions worship what you call the devil. they may worship him under a different name. you never know. to them he might bring the same things as you god brings to you.

[xHalf nHalf]

umm i believe in the exsistence of both but i follow and serve God

[princess2113]

i dont believe in the devil or jesus. i am a jew and i believe in G-d. i think that this is a very limiting question and i also think that it was very stupid to say:

as the first post. it does not specify. it is also a very closeminded topic because it includes very few religions. you should open the spectrum more when you post.

what about people not from your religion. if i am not mistaken, this is not the christian forum and maybe people from other religions worship what you call the devil. they may worship him under a different name. you never know. to them he might bring the same things as you god brings to you.

um every Jewish person i know believes in Jesus and teh devil...they dunt believe Jesus is the Son of God thou, they believe He is a Great Prophet, i believe He is the Son of God...but as far as the devil goes, Jews believe in the Torah...which is the Old Testament of the Bible which clearly talks about the devil

[*the_overachiever*]

What about Allah? Allah feels left out...

whoaaa minda zheng, mindy zhang. that could get confusing. sorry, random note. yeah, i`m Christian.

[melface]

Proof, please.

[princess2113]

Proof, please.

proof that He doesnt exist plz

[melface]

proof that He doesnt exist plz

Yet, I need proof that he does... the things in the bible are sort of stretched... and I wasn't talking about just Jesus... I was just talking about proof, in general.

So I'm neutral

[islandkiss]

ok wow absolutely off subject. The Devil is real and so is God, now I follow God, not the devil

I worship jesus.

[JlIaTMK]

lol.... if u really know so much about ur religion then u wouldn't be asking this question right now....
the devil is an aspect of Christianity and so is god.... to believe in one means that u believe in the other....

[JasonAkAWolf]

yes I do cause I believe in the Yin-yang theory good can't exsit with out evil.

[redsoxbaby87]

I believe whatever The Bible tells me.

well that is stupid. so basically if the bible says go jump off a cliff you will? if it says kill your mother or hate G-d you would? do have a problem with thinking for yourself or something? i just think that is stupid. you must have reasons other than just becasue the bible tells you. you must have a brain and be able to think for yourself...

[HiddenFaerie]

I don't know if God is real, or if Jesus ever walked this earth. But I do know that their is a difference between good and evil. And that the way it's always been it's the way it'll stay. As constant as change in itself.

[tofumonzter]

I don't understand how's this suppose to be debate..

[IIO__oII]

i belive there IS a devil and Jesus.. i belive IN Jesus...

well that is stupid. so basically if the bible says go jump off a cliff you will? if it says kill your mother or hate G-d you would? do have a problem with thinking for yourself or something? i just think that is stupid. you must have reasons other than just becasue the bible tells you. you must have a brain and be able to think for yourself...

haha.. well.. DOES the bible say that? NO. its just stupid to make up things.... stop saying "IF"

[Spirited Away]

i belive there IS a devil and Jesus.. i belive IN Jesus...


haha.. well.. DOES the bible say that? NO. its just stupid to make up things.... stop saying "IF"

That's isn't really stupid...

He/she was right when he/she said that you should be able to think for yourself instead of what the Bible tells you... after all, God gave you "free will" right?

[Sumiaki]

well that is stupid. so basically if the bible says go jump off a cliff you will? if it says kill your mother or hate G-d you would? do have a problem with thinking for yourself or something? i just think that is stupid. you must have reasons other than just becasue the bible tells you. you must have a brain and be able to think for yourself...

But that's not what's in the bible. People agree with the bible and that's why they say that they would believe anything the bible said, because they obviously agree with everything in the bible. People have a choice if they want to agree with the bible or not. If you don't agree with the bible or torah or w/e. Tough, there are many that do so. You just have to be able to tolerate what other believe or think. Saying something is stupid because they believe in something or agree with something is an opinion, an opinion i think that should not be said. It's their faith. No one can question someone's faith. That's just wrong.

As for answering this thread. I don't really know what i believe in. I was raised catholic but i don't know yet. I'm still questioning and finding out what i believe in.

[redsoxbaby87]

But that's not what's in the bible. People agree with the bible and that's why they say that they would believe anything the bible said, because they obviously agree with everything in the bible. People have a choice if they want to agree with the bible or not. If you don't agree with the bible or torah or w/e. Tough, there are many that do so. You just have to be able to tolerate what other believe or think. Saying something is stupid because they believe in something or agree with something is an opinion, an opinion i think that should not be said. It's their faith. No one can question someone's faith. That's just wrong.

a) freedom of speech. if you are able to voice your opinion that why cant I?

b) i disagree with the torah in the fact that I dont believe that Jesus was a phrophet. I believe he was an ordinary man. I dont believe in jesus. i believe in G-d.

[Sumiaki]

a) freedom of speech. if you are able to voice your opinion that why cant I?

b) i disagree with the torah in the fact that I dont believe that Jesus was a phrophet. I believe he was an ordinary man. I dont believe in jesus. i believe in G-d.

I didn't say you couldn't voice your opinion, i just said in my opinion it's wrong to say something is stupid because you don't believe in something that others do. In my opinion you could have used a better word than stupid. In my prior post i could have said something in your post was stupid, but i choose not to. Saying something is stupid can come out offensive especially about religion.

[princess2113]

Just because you don't believe in Jesus doesn't mean you are eternally condemned to the other extreme.

-Sarah

ummmmm yeah it kinda does...unless ur Jewish

[redsoxbaby87]

ummmmm yeah it kinda does...unless ur Jewish

what about islam or buddishm??!! other things like being a native american and worshiping native american gods????!!! what about wiccan??

G-d is merely a figure that watches over us. he has given us free will and tthe tools to do what we wish with our lives. He has given us commandments and religious texts, but those are only CHOICES that we are allowed to make. there are no such things as leading a good life or a bad life. there is merley lfie itself. and during your life you are allowed to do what ever you please. if you choose not to read religious texts it does not condem you to anything but yourself. you are allowed to choose in what you belive and people do so. G-d gives us things so that we have choices, he does not mean that we MUST do as he says. otherwise there would be no free will. there is no bigger picture. sure, all things have a reason, but that does not mean that G-d is involed. last time i checked i had a brain and i had reasons for doing what i do.

[floofies]

I don't believe in anything like this. I'm 100% Athiest

[SkYlIneZx4xLiF]

to b sincere i do believe in jesus, but the devil iono......the idead of an eternal burning hell kinda creeps me out.....nd if the priest is supposed to save ur sould before u die, who goes to hell then

[HiddenFaerie]

But that's not what's in the bible. People agree with the bible and that's why they say that they would believe anything the bible said, because they obviously agree with everything in the bible. People have a choice if they want to agree with the bible or not. If you don't agree with the bible or torah or w/e. Tough, there are many that do so. You just have to be able to tolerate what other believe or think. Saying something is stupid because they believe in something or agree with something is an opinion, an opinion i think that should not be said. It's their faith. No one can question someone's faith. That's just wrong.

But most people haven't read the bible. I myself have read the whole thing, and I assure no where in it does Jesus say: 'Go jump offa cliff.' But what about the Gnostic Gospels, the parts that were edited out by Constantine?

The few that have survived are quite interesting. For instance, they make out Jesus as not some kind of Deity as the Holy Bible tends to do. But a normal man. One who married and had kids.

[Rachel]

i be jewish.

i am tooooo!!!


also you have to open this up NOT JUST WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN
thats not a debate...its just a faith question

um every Jewish person i know believes in Jesus and teh devil...they dunt believe Jesus is the Son of God thou, they believe He is a Great Prophet, i believe He is the Son of God...but as far as the devil goes, Jews believe in the Torah...which is the Old Testament of the Bible which clearly talks about the devil

what the heck kinda jews are you talking to?!?!? The torah doesnt mention the devil, the BIBLE does! ours was first...not yours...its NOT the old testament to us, its the ONLY testament. the bible came after the torah and its completely different. please get it straight

[*CEP*]

i am tooooo!!!


also you have to open this up NOT JUST WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN
thats not a debate...its just a faith question



what the heck kinda jews are you talking to?!?!? The torah doesnt mention the devil, the BIBLE does! ours was first...not yours...its NOT the old testament to us, its the ONLY testament. the bible came after the torah and its completely different. please get it straight

For some reason, I was imagining you going in here and say, " Neither. "
*shrugs*

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[black_cloud10]

as a christian, yes i believe in Jesus and Satan...

personally i think Jesus is alive
and i have sympathy for the devil

[Guarneri]

uhh... i believe that there's devil and there's jesus.

[ryfitaDF]

jesus was real, but i don't believe his teachings. in fact, i hate them, most of the time. the devil isn't real, eather. its just a scare tactic.

[Ze world is a Ma...]

You can't have one without the other. Both Satan and Jesus are real. Satan was an angel who challenged God. God then banished him from the Kingdom. I'm assuming this is more a question of who do you worship?

but for those who dont worship anything they wouldnt care if there were a GOD or a DEVIL lets say they dont exist now what?

[ichiban]

I believe that both are real. But I worship Jesus

[Guarneri]

but for those who dont worship anything  they wouldnt care if there were a GOD or a DEVIL  lets say they dont exist  now what?

then you simply answer "I don't believe in neither of the two". is that so hard to do? now what what? ???

[Stupid_Fat_Boy]

i mean, if theres god theres gotta be a evil devil guy right?

[Mireh]

Jesus rocks my socks.

[lucky_clover]

i want Jesus working in me, NOT the devil. i'm a protestant, CMA. Christian Missionary Alliance. i only worhip God and Jesus. i believe in the trinity.

[*Kathleen*]

Of course. I'm Jesus's father. *Religious music in the background*

[Streetbawler91]

i believe in jesus ja hova goh O mighty

[*Kathleen*]

Okay, for the record, I was definitely responding with humor on that one.

[Rachel]

haha i got it kathleen dont worry =)

[flip_dorkette]

honestly.. i dont believe in the devil or jesus. yes my family`s christian; but i`m against my chrisianity, and believe in no religion at all.. i`ve been like that all my life. how we started and how we`ll end is something i`m not conserned with. life is life.. i live and experience it, and don`t just take a persons oppinion on what to believe and go by it all my life. i say; if someone believes in jesus (or supports jesus).. that`s okay if someone believes in the devil (or supports the devil).. that`s also okay i understand there`s got to be a reason for a persons` belief.. so i respect them

[C.Lime.Jello.]

I believe both God and the Devil are inferior to Inari.
However, I worship Paperclipz.

And if you're actually asking what I believe in, I believe in Hana-Hana.
No, it's not a real religion. No, I won't tell you why I believe in it.
Yes, you can yell at me for not believing in whatever.
No, you cannot ask what exactly I believe in:
I'm too lazy to explain my complicated religion here.

(Inari is the God of... Rice Harvest. I think.)

[krazyxp]

i believe in both. you cant really believe in an 'ultimate good' without believing in a contrast, the 'ultimate evil.' there's got to be some balance, but i believe that good will win over evil in the end.

Go Jesus! =D
..yes, im a dork [;

[sweetdreamsx3]

I'm kind of an atheist so I have no knowledge of them nor do I know they really exist. I don't know if I believe in them or not.

[sikdragon]

ok i dont understand why it is so hard to read the bible, i mean when u want history u go to your history book. so why not read the bible and learn for yourselves with this flawless book rather than asking humans which are flawed.

[DarkkeWolffe]

I don't belive in any religion. I'm an atheist.

[gerundio]

ok i dont understand why it is so hard to read the bible, i mean when u want history u go to your history book. so why not read the bible and learn for yourselves with this flawless book rather than asking humans which are flawed.

LOL.

Anyway, there is no such thing as the devil. It's a thing created by man for the sake of personifying evil and making evil infinitely easier to explain when it is a complex thing.

[Spirited Away]

ok i dont understand why it is so hard to read the bible, i mean when u want history u go to your history book. so why not read the bible and learn for yourselves with this flawless book rather than asking humans which are flawed.

Flawless according to whom?

[CloudUnionX]

I believe whatever The Bible tells me.

Why? How does it prove anything? Why would you follow a.. book?

[raw_material]

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder....James 2:19

[TrannieL]

hum...i dun beleive in anything

- Tran -

[Shadow_Rocker]

A controvertial question indeed. as said by someone earlier, both do exist, (or at least in my belief) though I follow the path of Jesus. I'm Christian (obviously) but not hardcore; I don't go to church but I lead a good life. I've actually questioned my belief for personal reasons a few times, though I'm sure everyone has at one time or another. I don't push my beliefs on anyone, you believe want you want. I actually have friends that are pagan, wiccan, aethiest, buddhist, etc. It doesn't matter to me. You could be the biggest devil worshipper on the planet and I would still befriend you. Religion shouldn't come between people becoming friends or anything of that sort. Hell, my girlfriend is aethiest, so, what does that tell ya? Anyway, I really could care less what you believe in, just don't push it on me, or put my religion down because you don't believe in it.

~SR

[heyyfrankie]

i believe in both.

[blondiebombshell]

i'm a christian

[nevernothere]

I'm Protestant.. and I believe in both... even if y'all think I'm nuts.

[sammi rules you]

neither.

[racoons > you]

nope. i believe in reincarnation.

and thor.

he watches out for me

[ShEraBaRoO]

um... hmm... weird...why on earth do we wana support the devil? i mean all he give us is pain, stress, anger, and sadness to our lives... he destroy everything in our lives.. why do we wana support the devil when he's making everything miserable?

if we believe in the devil, we dont mean that we support or praise him. we just mean that we know that there is such a thing as the devil and that he exists. yes, he does bring pain and suffering but thats when GOD comes in the picture. the devil is the reason behind our sins and without him, there would be no GOD, just like what everyone has been saying in this thread.

QUOTE 
believe man


as the first post. it does not specify. it is also a very closeminded topic because it includes very few religions. you should open the spectrum more when you post.

also, the post ^ above, the person who posted this topic means to say... believe man as in, believe in whatever -GOD or SATAN, man he didnt mean believe man as a form but he meant as an expression

[OriskybusinessO]

well i dont believe in a god of any kind, but then my christain friends say then i worship the devil, but i dont believe hes real either.

[zbrittanyz]

Neither.

[racoons > you]

but why is this a debate?

[sadolakced acid]

if you belive in jesus you believe in the devil, correct?

where's the debate?

[Teesa]

^yeah, that's what I was thinking. but I believe in neither.

[Spirited Away]

Yea well, if there's going to be a debate it will probably lead back to the question of God's existence... etc. We've plenty of topic of the like, so I'll shut this one down. If someone wants to reopen this, please move it to another forum.