Getting a Seagate Barracuda 1TB :D Options

[Deospeon]

Im getting a 1TB HDD
I wanna install a new clean OS.

prolly for Gaming.

Windows Vista? or Windows 7 RC (its releasing after tomorrow)

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Depends on how much RAM and what kind of processor the computer you're using will have.

If you have 4 gigs of RAM with a 2.6GHz dual core or better, go for Vista. Otherwise, go for W7.

[kryogenix]

I don't think I can stomach having 1GB of data on one drive.

[Maccabee]

Like cj siad, it depends. But i'd say 7 cause its lighter. If it were me i would use xp. Its the best for gaming!

[heyo-captain-jac...]

I don't think I can stomach having 1GB of data on one drive.

Well luckily, it's 1 TB.

[Deospeon]

My Current Core i7 will be taken to my brothers place in a few weeks.
So I'll be left with an old

Core 2 Duo E4600 2.4GHz
2GB DDR2 RAM
350W PSU
and a Geforce 6600
so Im pimping it up..

I'll buy:

XFX GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512BITS
620W Modular Extra Silent PSU by Cooler Master
Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 RAM (I'll be buying 4GB of it so I'll have 6GB)
Seagate 1TB 3.5 HDD
A4 Tech HD 800
A4 Tech PK-130MG Webcam
and maybe throw in some more cash and buy a
Creative 7.1 Sound Blaster Audigy Value

and srsly, should I really install Windows 7 RC as my primary OS?
Wont I have problems in March 2010?

Like cj siad, it depends. But i'd say 7 cause its lighter. If it were me i would use xp. Its the best for gaming!

*cough*VistaUltimate*cough*andWindows7*cough*

Reason for edit: Posts Merged. Please don't triple post; the "edit" button is there for a reason. Thanks. -Nat

[heyo-captain-jac...]

*cough*VistaUltimate*cough*andWindows7*cough*

This x1000. Vista Ultimate x64 rapes XP when gaming.

[Deospeon]

yo 9001
since Im building up an Otaku PC, why not cut down a few things and get more Otaku-ish stuff?

XFX Geforce GTX 260 Black Edition 896MB
Seagate 1TB Barracuda
Corsair 520W Modular PSU SLI Ready
Creative 7.1 Sound Blaster Xtreme Gamer
A4 Tech PK-130MG (I tried for Logitech's 9000! ITS NOT AVAILABLE! D;)
Razer Barracuda HP-1 =D
Corsair XMS2 2GB/800 DDR2 RAM (3 of them, so I'll have 8GB total)
as You see.. Im greedy when its RAM.. and im also greedy for GDDR3, its a shame that nVidia will take some time till it can released GDDR5 Geforce 300 Series. I'm a ATI Hater :)

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srsly, Vista Ultimate is always recommended by many companies for gaming.
Soon Windows 7 will replace Vista Ultimate, making it the most recommended OS for gaming.

[illriginal]

lolvista

Either Windows XP 64-Bit unless of course you have 32-bit processor... or Windows 7

[Maccabee]

*cough*VistaUltimate*cough*andWindows7*cough*

Is ultimate better than home edition? I thought ultimate just has a few different network and server capabilities?

[illriginal]

Ultimate is for server use as well.

[Deospeon]

joseph... if a dumbass looks at the word "Ultimate" in Vista, then he'll prolly know what that means.

:O

[Maccabee]

...but what are the differences between Home edition and ultimate. Knowing that its "better" wont get me to buy it.

[Deospeon]

Home = You are limited to some stuff.
Ultimate = You can use all the features of Vista, that means you can watch more porn!

[Maccabee]

Home = You are limited to some stuff.
Ultimate = You can use all the features of Vista, that means you can watch more porn!

home= limted to some stuff...what stuff!
ultimate= you can use all the features? Which features are those?

[illriginal]

Dood just go to microsoft's website and it'll read specifically what things are missing in Home. The only thing off the top of my head that I know, is that Home doesn't have the capability to setup a server on it...

[Deospeon]

[Maccabee]

In that case all i need is home premium.

[MasterNe0]

The Barracuda 1TB is nice.I got a 4TBs of storage at home running in raid-1 (so I got 8 drives).

With Vista, I would go for Business or Above, anything below is useless if it cheaper. Or just stick with XP.

[Deospeon]

The Barracuda 1TB is nice.I got a 4TBs of storage at home running in raid-1 (so I got 8 drives).

With Vista, I would go for Business or Above, anything below is useless if it cheaper. Or just stick with XP.

WTF DO YOU USE 4TB FOR?

[illriginal]

WTF DO YOU USE 4TB FOR?

^ lol

[Maccabee]

^ lol

2x LOL

[heyo-captain-jac...]

WTF DO YOU USE 4TB FOR?

My guess is file storage. Or he could have them mirrored. Backup is always nice.

[Deospeon]

XFX GTX 285 ran out of stock.
I'll try the eVGA GTX 285..

Yo CJ, how would a
Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz with a 12mb Cache
go against a
Core i7 920 2.66GHz?

[heyo-captain-jac...]

The i7 beats it. Not by much though.

i7 usually overclocks better too.

[Deospeon]

lol then here will be my next rig

Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.4GHz
2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM
2GBx2 Corsair XMS2 XTREME GAMING MEMORY DDR2 RAM
Samsung Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM HDD
eVGA Geforce GTX 285 (512 BITS) 1GB
Cooler Master 620W Modular Power Supply SLI READY
ViewSonic VA1716W 17" Monitor
A4 Tech HD-800 Gaming Headphones (Virtual 7.1 Surround Sound)
A4 Tech PK-130MG Webcam.

[illriginal]

The i7 beats it. Not by much though.

i7 usually overclocks better too.

Nothing comes close to the i7... You can overclock an i7 to 5GHz on air.

lol then here will be my next rig

Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.4GHz
2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM
2GBx2 Corsair XMS2 XTREME GAMING MEMORY DDR2 RAM
Samsung Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM HDD
eVGA Geforce GTX 285 (512 BITS) 1GB
Cooler Master 620W Modular Power Supply SLI READY
ViewSonic VA1716W 17" Monitor
A4 Tech HD-800 Gaming Headphones (Virtual 7.1 Surround Sound)
A4 Tech PK-130MG Webcam.

E4800 is better. As it's pushes 3.0GHz naturally.

Also no point in getting two different makes / model of RAM. Stick to Corsair, Kingston sucks and majority of the time their voltage can't go above 1.8v. Corsairs, typically all of them, are able to push 2.1v

Dunno who a4 is but as far as speakers and webcams go, logitech is the better buy.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

A4 headphones rape Logitech headphones.

That monitor is pretty tiny for the GTX 285. That GPU can run any resolution with ease.

[illriginal]

A4 headphones rape Logitech headphones.

That monitor is pretty tiny for the GTX 285. That GPU can run any resolution with ease.

That's funny for a so-called "raping" of Logitech, I, as a person deeply involved with technology, have never heard of A4.


If you wanna talk about "raping" Logitech, that'd be BOSE, nothin else.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

BOSE equals Logitech.

If you want some badass headphones, and have 1400 dollars that you're willing to blow on them, get the Sennheiser HD800.

[illriginal]

BOSE equals Logitech.

wut.

I don't even think you've ever even TOUCHED BOSE headphones.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Why not?

[Maccabee]

lol then here will be my next rig

Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.4GHz
2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM
2GBx2 Corsair XMS2 XTREME GAMING MEMORY DDR2 RAM
Samsung Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM HDD
eVGA Geforce GTX 285 (512 BITS) 1GB
Cooler Master 620W Modular Power Supply SLI READY
ViewSonic VA1716W 17" Monitor
A4 Tech HD-800 Gaming Headphones (Virtual 7.1 Surround Sound)
A4 Tech PK-130MG Webcam.

only 2.4 ghz?

[heyo-captain-jac...]

E4600 has lots of headroom. He's probably going to OC it.

[Deospeon]

I r poor D;
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A4 Tech > Logitech
Semmheiser > A4 Tech

and in Webcams..

Logitech > EVERYTHING


Bose aint here, never heard bose.
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I think 4GB of Corsair is enough for me, I'll remove the Kingston and give it to teh poor.
Yes, GTX285 is too epic for that resolution, which enables me to play everything ULTRA HIGH on Crysis with 8xAA or 16xAA at a decent framerate. One guy on youtube did it at 1440x900, he got 30 fps without fraps. and 20-25fps with fraps.

Might get a decent monitor some other time..

[illriginal]

E4600 has lots of headroom. He's probably going to OC it.

no it doesn't... wtf please stop advising people with bad information. The most you'll get out of a E4600 on air would be 3.0 maybe 3.2GHz


On the E4800 you can EASILY push 3.6GHz and 4.0GHz with very good air cooling + heat sink/pipes.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

You'll kill an E4800 doing 4GHz on air. I wouldn't push it higher than 3.7. The E4600 can be pushed to 3.5 on air if you've got the right setup.

[illriginal]

You'll kill an E4800 doing 4GHz on air. I wouldn't push it higher than 3.7. The E4600 can be pushed to 3.5 on air if you've got the right setup.

-.- there's people pushing 4.8s in water cooling.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

In water. We're talking air. I could push a Sempron to 4.8 on water if I wanted to.

[Deospeon]

I got a stock intel fan for my E4600 (the one that you get in the box with the processor)

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Well then maybe you can go for 2.5 GHz

[Deospeon]

I dont want to OC my Processor, its too risky.
As long as my PC will be able to play Crysis and GTA 4, I'm ok.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

You'll run those fine.

[Deospeon]

Fine.

[Maccabee]

How many ghz processor would you need to run crysis?

[Deospeon]

Crysis System Requirements - Official

Minimum system requirements
from Crytek and EA

OS - Windows XP or Windows Vista
Processor - 2.8 GHz or faster (XP) or 3.2 GHz or faster* (Vista)
Memory - 1.0 GB RAM (XP) or 1.5 GB RAM (Vista)
Video Card -256 MB**
Hard Drive - 12GB
Sound Card - DirectX 9.0c compatible

Recommended System Requirements
from Crytek and EA

OS - Windows XP / Vista
Processor - Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
Memory - 2.0 GB RAM
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar



* Supported Processors: Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz (3.2 GHz for Vista) or faster, Intel Core 2.0 GHz (2.2 GHz for Vista) or faster, AMD Athlon 2800+ (3200+ for Vista) or faster.

** Supported chipsets: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT or greater; ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Radeon X800 Pro for Vista) or greater. Laptop versions of these chipsets may work but are not supported. Integrated chipsets are not supported. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required.

http://www.crysisdemo.com/crysis-system-requirements.htm

[illriginal]

Buttsex... even the effin requirements to run Crysis owns your advice. 2.4 or 2.6GHz is gonna run that game shitty.

Deospeon, listen to me... I'm a legitimate Computer Engineer with a little over 10 years of experience in computers, including Engine Control Units (ECUs). If you want to run Crysis fine, there's 4 main things you need.


1. a processor able to push a minimum of 3.0GHz

2. 3GB of RAM or more

3. a video card that can handle maximum settings for ANY video game (the video card you're gonna buy is perfect, I would highly recommend EVGA's build of that specific card as they're the kings of nvidia, hands down.

4. a 64-bit OS whether it's Windows XP, Vista, or 7.


I preferably would use Windows XP or Windows 7... Vista has horrible bugs that give off false positives for a few things, including networking or internet connectivity for that matter.

The minimum requirements you're lookin at for Crysis is to run Crysis on low settings and quite honestly, low settings on Crysis or even GTA4 for that matter, is not even worth it.


Have patience, save your money, when you see a great deal, buy that product. You don't need to buy everything in one shot. Unless of course you're rich as all hell, then by all means create your PC by adding the parts into the wish list and purchase all of them in one shot.

Otherwise, just have patience...


EDIT: I read your post about having a stock heatsink / fan. I'm telling you right now if you're planning to run Crysis you need an aftermarket heatsink / fan.

Between that processor you have or about to purchase + the stock heat sink / fan... I can guarantee your game is going to run choppy, probably to the point that it'll freeze up.

[Maccabee]

http://www.crysisdemo.com/crysis-system-requirements.htm

Ya i found that.

Crap...so the prebuilt one isnt good enough...
Even though I will never be playing crysis. Or any games for that matter, I want a computer that can, cause I want a really powerful computer.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

^ Integrated graphics are perfect if you're not playing games on it.

I'm a legitimate Computer Engineer with a little over 10 years of experience in computers

So I'm ten years younger than you, and have as many years of experience as you?

Cool.

Also, what the f*ck do ECUs have to do with running Crysis?

[Maccabee]

Crap, not sure if I can make my own computer after all cause when I trade in my laptop I will have about 750 credit to sams club... But I cant use that on newegg...

[illriginal]

^ Integrated graphics are perfect if you're not playing games on it.


So I'm ten years younger than you, and have as many years of experience as you?

Cool.

Also, what the f*ck do ECUs have to do with running Crysis?

I'm sorry but you don't have 10 years of experience when you don't even know wtf you're talkin about.

I don't even think you own the game Crysis. I don't even think you've ever touched Bose head phones, I don't even think you know the literal differences between 32-bit and 64-bit, to be quite honest.

If anything you remind me of those people at computer shops who think they know something because they know how to install Windows when in reality they're not even certified to work on computers under a company.


And just so that we're aware here... you're 15 years old with 10 years experience.. right.

[Deospeon]

1. a processor able to push a minimum of 3.0GHz

2. 3GB of RAM or more

3. a video card that can handle maximum settings for ANY video game (the video card you're gonna buy is perfect, I would highly recommend EVGA's build of that specific card as they're the kings of nvidia, hands down.

4. a 64-bit OS whether it's Windows XP, Vista, or 7.
I preferably would use Windows XP or Windows 7... Vista has horrible bugs that give off false positives for a few things, including networking or internet connectivity for that matter.

The minimum requirements you're lookin at for Crysis is to run Crysis on low settings and quite honestly, low settings on Crysis or even GTA4 for that matter, is not even worth it.
Have patience, save your money, when you see a great deal, buy that product. You don't need to buy everything in one shot. Unless of course you're rich as all hell, then by all means create your PC by adding the parts into the wish list and purchase all of them in one shot.

Otherwise, just have patience...
EDIT: I read your post about having a stock heatsink / fan. I'm telling you right now if you're planning to run Crysis you need an aftermarket heatsink / fan.

Between that processor you have or about to purchase + the stock heat sink / fan... I can guarantee your game is going to run choppy, probably to the point that it'll freeze up.

1. Im poor, otherwise I'd get a Core 2 Quad
2. Got 4 GB
3. Will be getting eVGA GTX 285, why not XFX?
4. I'll be using Vista Ultimate

No. No after market fan, cause I think my CPU is too small.
Damn I want a coolermaste rhaf 932

[illriginal]

My Current Core i7 will be taken to my brothers place in a few weeks.
So I'll be left with an old

Core 2 Duo E4600 2.4GHz
2GB DDR2 RAM
350W PSU
and a Geforce 6600

Can you right click on "My Computer" click on properties and print screen the general tab?

1. Im poor, otherwise I'd get a Core 2 Quad
2. Got 4 GB
3. Will be getting eVGA GTX 285, why not XFX?
4. I'll be using Vista Ultimate

XFX is like.. heh... well how can I put it softly... they straight up hatian rig their products. They've given nvidia a bad rep and at one point nvidia, years ago almost cut their contract with them.

The E8400 is a little less than $200... how did you afford a PC with an i7 processor???

[Deospeon]

the i7 was my brothers', and it was a decent PC.

[illriginal]

Hm... well I'll be honest, you'll get Crysis to work, I'm not doubting it by any means, it's just... the game is a graphics whore, in other words, what makes a huge part of Crysis is the graphics. Not only that but it a process whore and it will make your processor work hard.


I've had a client in which his son wanting a gaming PC and the father was on a budget, the client got a Q6600 cpu, which is naturally 2.4Ghz, and the kid thought (even after I told the kid and his father face to face that Crysis is gonna need more juice and that dual cores > quad cores in gaming) that I shafted them. And luckily the father remembered exactly what I said, but the kid refused to get a dual core of at least 3.0GHz.

So out of that little scenario the father ended up askin me to build him a machine, take his son's quad core processor and install it onto the father's machine. And just install the dual core onto his kid's machine. Afterwards the kid was pleased and the father was completely amazed in the difference between a single core processor (Pentium 4 HT) and a Quad core.


But anyways, it doesn't hurt to try Crysis on that setup, just don't be upset if the game runs like crap. And honestly, expect to drop the performance to as low as possible. (It honestly saddens me when I see such a beautiful graphics card go to waste)

[heyo-captain-jac...]

I'm sorry but you don't have 10 years of experience when you don't even know wtf you're talkin about.

I don't even think you own the game Crysis. I don't even think you've ever touched Bose head phones, I don't even think you know the literal differences between 32-bit and 64-bit, to be quite honest.

If anything you remind me of those people at computer shops who think they know something because they know how to install Windows when in reality they're not even certified to work on computers under a company.
And just so that we're aware here... you're 15 years old with 10 years experience.. right.

Cool personal attacks, internet tough guy. You don't have to believe me.

[illriginal]

the i7 was my brothers', and it was a decent PC.

I have great news for you!!

http://www.compusa.com/applications/search...M259-_-barebone


You can now bow down to me, I am your God.


jk

[MasterNe0]

My guess is file storage. Or he could have them mirrored. Backup is always nice.

Yep. I am a system administrator and run a email/webhost server at home.
Backup is #1.

[Maccabee]

I have great news for you!!

http://www.compusa.com/applications/search...M259-_-barebone
You can now bow down to me, I am your God.
jk

wo, thats amazing! I needed to find something like that cause I wanna make a computer with a blu ray player so we dont have to spend 600 on just a blu ray player.