Disney to Feature Its First Black Princess Options

[Melie]

Move over Snow White. Make room for Disney’s first black princess. With America’s first African-American president in the White House, Disney is counting on an African-American princess to be a big hit in Hollywood. But even though The Princess and the Frog isn’t released until later this year, it is already stirring up controversy. For while Princess Tiana and many in the cartoon cast are black – the prince is not. Which has led some critics to complain that Disney has ducked the opportunity for a fairytale ending for a black prince and princess. While some have hailed Disney’s decision as a reflection of melting pot America, others say the company is sending out a mixed message. Although the black princess’s love interest in the new animated musical is called Prince Naveen of Maldonia and is voiced by a Brazilian actor, he looks more white than black in photographs from the film that Disney have released. Since Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in 1937, all of Disney’s princesses have predominantly been white. A native Indian princess was featured in Pocahontas and Jasmine in Aladdin had a Middle Eastern appearance. The race row hasn’t yet hit the mainstream because the film’s release date isn’t until late in the year, but Internet chat rooms and blogs have been abuzz with complaints. One disappointed fan wrote (sic): 'I think it's sad that he is white because its saying that black love isn't good enough and that black men could never be princes. ‘Disney had the perfect chance to make its first black prince, but instead it decided to go the controversial route.'
Another complained (sic): ‘I am very disappointed and I wished Disney had made the prince black,(and the ironic thing is the prince in the movie is white but the evil voodoo villain is voiced by a black actor and is black).’ Since announcing their plans for the first black princess in 2006 the production of Hollywood studio's 49th animated film has been dogged by racial controversy. Originally called The Frog Princess, its heroine was to be a chambermaid called Maddy working for a spoilt white debutante in 1920s New Orleans. But the storyline sparked a backlash from critics who claimed it reinforced prejudice and demeaned black people. The princess’s original name was perceived by some to be a stereotypical ‘slave name’ and she was also a maid working for a wealthy white boss, which was criticised as being racially insensitive. Even the New Orleans setting for the film was questioned as it had overtones of voodoo and slavery. Disney has insisted its choice of a black princess was part of a policy to give characters as much diversity as possible. In the past, founder Walt Disney has been accused of being racist, particularly against Jews and blacks. One extreme example often cited by his critics was in The Jungle Book which was made in 1964 at the height of the civil rights movement. In one scene, Mowgli is told he can't live with Baloo the bear because different species need to keep to themselves. Disney also ran into trouble when creating the character of Pocahontas in 1995 for the retelling of the encounter between an English settler and a Native American princess. Animators were accused of modelling Pocahontas on model Naomi Campbell, although they said they had used Native American faces as their inspiration. Anika Noni Rose, the black actress who voices the character of Princess Tiana, has insisted that people should look beyond the colour of the character. ‘Not only is she the first black princess, she’s the first American princess. We’ve never had an American princess,’ said Rose.
‘The scope and the significance is larger than people even realise,’ she added. Rose has starred in Dreamgirls but is best known in Britain as the officious secretary Grace in the new BBC series The No 1 Ladies Detective Agency. The film also features the voice of chat show queen Oprah Winfrey as Tiana's mother called Eudora. The film is scheduled for release in December. Although set in 1920s New Orleans it an adaptation of the classic tale The Frog Prince. In the Disney version, Prince Naveen is turned into a frog by a voodoo magician and asks Princess Tiana to kiss him to break the spell. But she turns into a frog and the pair must reverse the spell, while in true fairy tale tradition, they fall in love. Nobody from Disney was available to comment tonight.

how interesting that they think that if you put oprah as a voice that the movie will do better.

[brooklyneast05]

i think people have made way too big of a deal out of this, especially since no one has even seen it yet. but i mean, basically nothing disney does is going to be good enough because they've already been so racially stereotypical through their movies that it's hard for many to take it seriously...for me anyway. we had to wait until 2009 for them to have black people? lol there you go.

i make an attempt to not buy into all that racial shit people spew about disney, but sometimes it's just too much and i have to wonder. at least they're making a black one at all i suppose. although i do wish they would have made the prince black too...i don't really get why they didn't. if they're going to do the first black princess why not do the first black prince too?

[superstitious]

Oh now now. 101 Dalmations was about both white and black spots and how the evil man (woman) tried to destroy them.

Mk. That's the best I can do to defend Disney.

The scope and the significance is larger than people even realise.

How so? It's only significant if you care about what Disney does.

[shoryuken]

makk princezzz skinn lykee jasminee aladin... nott all blak.. dat shiet wak..

n da princee be lykee alad skin 2.. dat onlii waii 4 dizz da worrkk..

dey try da make da princezzz alll blak skin colurr i bet u $999999999999 shiet ginna fail.. u all noo ett 2..

[karmakiller]

I thought Disney was going to sell meaningful stories not race :(

I think it's kind of unfair that they hype up having a black character, they make it sound like it's some kind of taboo... but I don't think anyone has an issue with a black princess or prince. The color of the characters shouldn't matter, Sesame Street has orange, purple, green, etc. characters Disney is just wayyyyy behind.

[smash]

i think if they're going to go the route of having the majority of the characters black they should go ahead and make the prince black as well. if they care sp much about letting everyone know they're diverse then they should go ahead and make more movies like Rodgers and Hammersteins Cinderella. where the cast is diverse and the main characters are people of color.

[illriginal]

so lol... let me get this straight, it takes a half black president to finally make a black princess cartoon movie?

BRB prophesying fried chicken in up coming movie. (me no racist. Disney, more than likely)

[shoryuken]

so lol... let me get this straight, it takes a half black president to finally make a black princess cartoon movie?

BRB prophesying fried chicken in up coming movie. (me no racist. Disney, more than likely)

princc givv u propp 4 dat onee.. hahaha

[*BOSS*]

there is a deleted 10 min clip from disney on nazis during WWII. I wonder if anyone has it....

[illriginal]

there is a deleted 10 min clip from disney on nazis during WWII. I wonder if anyone has it....

Do you mean, "psychological warfare"? Where Nazis used to draw certain patterns then create cartoons out of them, like Disney artists drew/draw sexual organs then create cartoons out of them?

[*BOSS*]

i believe that was it

[illriginal]

i believe that was it

Psychological warfare on children:

[brooklyneast05]

Psychological warfare on children:

i don't really get how that's relevant. if they were drawing actual disney characters or characters kids actually see it'd be a lot more effective...

[illriginal]

i don't really get how that's relevant. if they were drawing actual disney characters or characters kids actually see it'd be a lot more effective...

Apparently you don't know anything about subconsciousness. But I don't blame ya, you're stagnant.

The example shown above is not the actual character itself.. it's what's in the background. The unimportant characters.

[brooklyneast05]

yeah what i said still stands, it'd be more effective to link this to REAL characters. if they showed a REAL character, main or background either, and then drew it for us showing that, i'd care. i can make up that shit right now and it means nothing unless i'm going to show that the characters exist.

[illriginal]

yeah what i said still stands, it'd be more effective to link this to REAL characters. if they showed a REAL character, main or background either, and then drew it for us showing that, i'd care. i can make up that shit right now and it means nothing unless i'm going to show that the characters exist.

Ah ok:

@ 6 Min.

I'll find you the one with 1940's Walt Disney's, "Fantasia".

Enjoy.

[brooklyneast05]

yeah that didn't make me care anymore about those cartoon characters that were being drawn. it still didn't show those in any actual cartoons, which is still what i think it would have to do before i'd give a shit about those.

[illriginal]

Then either you didn't watch them.. or, you simply never watched any cartoon films while growing up.

[brooklyneast05]

Then either you didn't watch them.. or, you simply never watched any cartoon films while growing up.

ok then why don't you point out where those characters are, or what movie/cartoon? what do you not f*cking get about this? if someone wants to convince me that drawing cartoon characters out of dicks has anything to do with anything then they need to show a REAL character that is REALLY in movies/cartoons drawn out of a dick. not a made up character than no one knows where it's from.

i can draw a random cartoon out of a dick and it's not going to influence children because children aren't going to be seeing it. it would be one i just made up out of my head.

so if those are really characters that children actually see then show where they are from and then it'll make sense. otherwise THAT SPECIFIC VIDEO with THOSE SPECIFIC sexual characters isn't hurting anyone cause kids aren't even seeing that shit on tv.

[illriginal]

lol damn son... you've never watched any of those cartoons?

shit you had a rough childhood huh?

[brooklyneast05]

lol damn son... you've never watched any of those cartoons?

shit you had a rough childhood huh?

yeah now how about you post the characters since you had such a nice childhood and know where they are from.

[illriginal]

yeah now how about you post the characters since you had such a nice childhood and know where they are from.

lol I think I'd rather just let you wonder, instead.




LOL I can't believe you've never watched Lion King, Little Mermaid, Snow White, nor even Fantasia!!! LOL... God that is so sad.

[brooklyneast05]

lol I think I'd rather just let you wonder, instead.
LOL I can't believe you've never watched Lion King, Little Mermaid, Snow White, nor even Fantasia!!! LOL... God that is so sad.

you'll let me wonder becuase you can't post them becuase you don't know where those characters in the first video are from.

[illriginal]

LOL I can't believe you've never watched Lion King, Little Mermaid, Snow White, nor even Fantasia!!! LOL... God that is so sad.

you'll let me wonder becuase you can't post them becuase you don't know where those characters in the first video are from.

ROFLMAO

Oh God this is the funniest shit. Dammit it's just.. unbelievable.

[brooklyneast05]

yeah, i'm sure anyone who reads this thread will feel the same way.

[illriginal]

yeah, i'm sure anyone who reads this thread will feel the same way.

Keep doubting me like the rest of em', woman.

[*BOSS*]

no thats not the video

[brooklyneast05]

wow what a surprise

[illriginal]

no thats not the video

What's not the video?

The first one is examples of HOW they create cartoons out of sexual organs. This is something that the U.S. borrowed from the Nazis. It's considered a form of psychological warfare, one that is used on children. That is all. The 2nd video where brooklyn-ho needed some undoubtable proof was the one with Lion King, Snow White, etc..

The 3rd video was from Fantasia that just happens to have the scene of when Satan rules world for some really f*cked up reason. Which has a nude scene in it.

What's amazing is... the fact that Brooklyn-ho actually thinks that children in no shape or form could ever acknowledge this. When in fact children's minds are like a seed... that grows. Everything they sense/observe consciously and subconsciously is obtained as knowledge.

wow what a surprise

What that you didn't have a childhood, living in America? No shit...

What's next, your parents are actually two homosexual women?

[brooklyneast05]

What's not the video?

The first one is examples of HOW they create cartoons out of sexual organs. That is all. The 2nd video where brooklyn-ho needed some undoubtable proof was the one with Lion King, Snow White, etc..

The 3rd video was from Fantasia that just happens to have the scene of when Satan rules world for some really f*cked up reason. Which has a nude scene in it.
What that you didn't have a childhood, living in America? No shit...

What's next, your parents are actually two homosexual women?

no i didn't you f*cking douchebag. i didn't say those weren't snow white and shit. i said relate the first video to actual disney characters before anyone will give a shit about characters drawn from sexual organs. you're just too dense to get the point that drawing characters out of sexual organs doesn't matter if you're not going to show it was actually done to make those that children watch.


where did you live when you were a child?

[*BOSS*]

What's not the video?

The first one is examples of HOW they create cartoons out of sexual organs. That is all. The 2nd video where brooklyn-ho needed some undoubtable proof was the one with Lion King, Snow White, etc..

The 3rd video was from Fantasia that just happens to have the scene of when Satan rules world for some really f*cked up reason. Which has a nude scene in it.
What that you didn't have a childhood, living in America? No shit...

What's next, your parents are actually two homosexual women?

Do you not understand english or something? Your video wasn't the video im talking about, lmao, f*cking sherlock holmes over here getting mad AGAIN. So once again.

[karmakiller]

I think all JC was asking for was some proof that these cartoons that are based on sexual organs are still in circulation. If it's something that was drawn up but never made it to the general public, then why does it matter?

I find it surprising that you think it's really affecting a child psyche. When a child watches Disney I highly doubt that he or she can point out a penis. If the kid can, then I'd be questioning if something happened to that child. Just sayin'.

[brooklyneast05]

I think all JC was asking for was some proof that these cartoons that are based on sexual organs are still in circulation. If it's something that was drawn up but never made it to the general public, then why does it matter?

THANK YOU


but since he's too stupid to understand that he has to call me and my parents f****ts instead.

[illriginal]

no i didn't you f*cking douchebag. i didn't say those weren't snow white and shit. i said relate the first video to actual disney characters before anyone will give a shit about characters drawn from sexual organs. you're just too dense to get the point that drawing characters out of sexual organs doesn't matter if you're not going to show it was actually done to make those that children watch.


where did you live when you were a child?

What would it have mattered? I mean... I understand if you lived in like... Africa or Haiti or heck even Dominican Republic. It's children cartoons.. you haven't seen these yet I bet you be rockin some serious homo, "Bob Square Pants" type ish, huh?

Do you not understand english or something? Your video wasn't the video im talking about, lmao, f*cking sherlock holmes over here getting mad AGAIN. So once again.

Oh...



I'm used to a few of you tryin to gang up.

[*BOSS*]

lol yeah we know you are use to being in a gangbang

[illriginal]

I think all JC was asking for was some proof that these cartoons that are based on sexual organs are still in circulation. If it's something that was drawn up but never made it to the general public, then why does it matter?

I find it surprising that you think it's really affecting a child psyche. When a child watches Disney I highly doubt that he or she can point out a penis. If the kid can, then I'd be questioning if something happened to that child. Just sayin'.

Oh hell... I give up. I showed him the stupid f*ckin videos where it specifically showed scenes from known movies.

And it's not exactly the way you're thinkin as to how a child absorbs in this type of information.

THANK YOU


but since he's too stupid to understand that he has to call me and my parents f****ts instead.

I'm too stupid yet you have a hard time observing the evidence. Aw lawd.

[karmakiller]

I'm saying that kids shouldn't be able to see something and go "LOOK MOM! There's a penis... right there in the middle!" It's just... wrong. If a kid came up to me and said that I'd be really suspicious.

What would it have mattered? I mean... I understand if you lived in like... Africa or Haiti or heck even Dominican Republic. It's children cartoons.. you haven't seen these yet I bet you be rockin some serious homo, "Bob Square Pants" type ish, huh?
Oh...

This is why the Debate forum is not your friend. What does ANYTHING about where he grew up/what he watched/who his parents are have anything to do with cartoons being drawn out of sexual organs? Unless he was the one who drew up the damn cartoons I'd have to say nothing.

It's no secret that Disney animators have drawn things that aren't kid friendly. I'm a fan of Fred Moore's work, but the work like that never made in to Disney films. Just because an animator likes to do stuff for shits and giggles doesn't mean it's some form of warfare.

[brooklyneast05]

lol this idiot still doesn't understand the difference between the first and second video.

[*BOSS*]

lol heres the more important question, illmortal, do you play catcher or pitcher with your boyfriend?

[illriginal]

I'm saying that kids shouldn't be able to see something and go "LOOK MOM! There's a penis... right there in the middle!" It's just... wrong. If a kid came up to me and said that I'd be really suspicious.

This is why the Debate forum is not your friend. What does ANYTHING about where he grew up/what he watched/who his parents are have anything to do with cartoons being drawn out of sexual organs? Unless he was the one who drew up the damn cartoons I'd have to say nothing.

Holy. shit. you guys are f*ckin nuts. Are you even reading the full context or do you only see me having a convo with uh... a f*ckin ghost? I'M NOT ASKIN HIM WHERE THE f*ck HE LIVED AS A CHILD YOU IDIOT.

[none345678]

If all this was true, shouldn't I be wanting to give Satan a big old hug right now? I mean, I grow up watching all those movies over and over again. Hell, I even saw Fantasia in theaters I wasn't all like "Hey look mommy! Boobies!". Not only did I watch these "horribly satanic" movies, but also every horror movie that came out in the 90's.

Also, settle down with your homophobic remarks there roid rage. It makes you look like a 3 year old who calls every one a dummy head because he cant get his way.

[*BOSS*]

lol WHY SO SERIOUS?

[karmakiller]

Holy. shit. you guys are f*ckin nuts. Are you even reading the full context or do you only see me having a convo with uh... a f*ckin ghost? I'M NOT ASKIN HIM WHERE THE f*ck HE LIVED AS A CHILD YOU IDIOT.

lol

What that you didn't have a childhood, living in America?

What's next, your parents are actually two homosexual women?

living in America?

living in America?

looks to me like you asked where he lived/lives.

[*BOSS*]

looks like steroid boy finally shut the f*ck up

[illriginal]

Argggg ::dies::

[*BOSS*]

thats right you little bitch, now sit your ugly ass down and shut the f*ck up

[illriginal]

thats right you little bitch, now sit your ugly ass down and shut the f*ck up

pfffft... would love for you to say that to my face.

[*BOSS*]

prob would love me to touch you too huh you little f****t

[PurpleDaze112]

Every disney movie with people of color in it is racist and/or stereotypical. Or phallic (the little mermaid). About the lack of a black prince, I wouldn't really have cared if Disney had ever even animated a black person. But in the first black movies they've got to make the prince white? That's almost funny, in a stereotypical way.

[illriginal]

prob would love me to touch you too huh you little f****t

Pffft you couldn't touch me if we were the only two colors in this world. Dummy.

[dosomethin888]

makk princezzz skinn lykee jasminee aladin... nott all blak.. dat shiet wak..

n da princee be lykee alad skin 2.. dat onlii waii 4 dizz da worrkk..

dey try da make da princezzz alll blak skin colurr i bet u $999999999999 shiet ginna fail.. u all noo ett 2..

UGH. GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

[emberfly]

I agree with everything JC said :D Illmortal was just being a bastard to get attention

*goes back to lurking*

[none345678]

Isn't Disney know for being just a weeeeeeee bit sexist too?

[shoryuken]

UGH. GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

UGH. shuut u moouth..

[Tsukuyomi-No-Mok...]

i'll have to agree with brooklyn cause
i don't see how drawin a cartoon outta dicks and stuff is really gonna affect me especially because i don't reconizge the characters
but i mean just cause they are drawn outta dicks and stuff doesn't mean it's gonna affect me.
it's not like i watch the cartoon to identify them for what they were drawn from

[Joanne]

I don't think this has been posted yet...

[Gigi]

THANKS! I'm definitely gonna watch that. I missed the old school Disney princess movies.

[Joanne]

I know eh?? I just tweeted about how I miss those kinds of movies LOL. I really hope it's a musical too.

[smash]

hmmm. not sure how i feel about that.... correction: i'm feeling insulted. i guess i'll have to see the movie before i can form a complete opinion. i don't wanna prejudge too much.

[Joanne]

The film, which began production under the working title The Frog Princess, will be an American fairy tale, Broadway-style musical set in the French Quarter of New Orleans. A prince named Naveen from the land of Maldonia,[5] is transformed into a frog by the evil scheming voodoo magician Dr. Facilier. The frog prince asks a waitress named Tiana to break the spell by kissing him. However, the kiss doesn't break the spell but rather makes Tiana a frog, as well. Together the two of them must reach the good voodoo priestess of the Bayou, Mama Odie, while befriending a trumpet playing alligator and a hopelessly romantic firefly along the way. The film is set to be released on December 11, 2009.

(via Wikipedia)

YES!

[shoryuken]

I don't think this has been posted yet...

wat i finee funni.. evenn da princcezzz blak.. shee talkk suu ghettoo... HAHAHAH

dat mezzz up..

watcchh daa vidd clusslyy.. u c..

[shoryuken]

i no rite.. shiet funni.. LOL..

i wan da whitt princezz bak..

FUK putt jaseeminee frumm aladinn en tha..

jassminee sounn cutee.. nott lykee dat blak princezz ^

[brooklyneast05]

it's set in new orleans and she talks with a southern accent. what's ghetto about a southern accent?

[shoryuken]

dat shiet aint southurrnn accentt.. fuk outta hur

[brooklyneast05]

you've never heard anyone from louisiana talk like that?

[shoryuken]

ye i hur southurrn accentt.. i juzz no thenk hurr acceentt southurr.. butt lyke gheetto da moi..

[Joanne]

Well considering how she's voiced by a black woman, she's bound to "sound black".


But then again, Mulan wasn't voiced by a Chinese woman.

[shoryuken]

Well considering how she's voiced by a black woman, she's bound to sound black.
But then again, Mulan wasn't voiced by a Chinese woman.

shee sounn azn 4 sho..

joannee aintt u da onee huu saii u cant reellii undurstann r speek u langguugga..

ye shutt u muuth..

[Joanne]

Wait my bad, Mulan WAS voiced by a Chinese woman.

I still think she sounds white though. Not that I'd want a fobby voice.

[shoryuken]

dat rite foo...

2 da prince

ye u thenk.. butt moi.. i sho..

i kan telll wen sum1 git lil azn enn demm wen dey speek yo.. princ dat ill..

[Joanne]

lol fine Prince, you win.

But hey, pretty much everyone who voiced the characters in Aladdin were white too.

[shoryuken]

wii aintt talken bout aladin hur...

[dosomethin888]

A new disney princess is fine by me.. as long as she is wearing a dress like the rest of them.. and not slutty shorts or something. And no makeup!

[shoryuken]

A new disney princess is fine by me.. as long as she is wearing a dress like the rest of them.. and not slutty shorts or something. And no makeup!

MAN... U DUM..

stopp postenn en hur..

[Joanne]

THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THE MOVIE ARE OUT.

TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

[creole]

i'm glad to see interracial dating going on in this movie, besides phocahontas

[Joanne]

I think the prince is black too........

NOOOOO THE VIDEO IS GONE!!!!!!

[creole]

oh yeah, he's definitely black like the night.

[brooklyneast05]

^lmao

[hypnotique]

oh yeah, he's definitely black like the night.

wtf is up with that smile man...

[brooklyneast05]

if that's the actual dude, they should make the him black like the princess...if they're going on and on about how it's the first black princess ever then why not make the prince their first black prince ever too. no one can tell me that dude is black right there. i assure you i never woke up with my hair looking like that lmao.

[datass]

oh yeah, he's definitely black like the night.

lol, the prince reminds me of gaston from beauty and the beast.

[Joanne]

Or James Marsden in Enchanted. They all have the same cocky smile.

[smash]

you can never really tell with some of those creole folks. but i think the prince is supposed to be latin.

[none345678]

if that's the actual dude, they should make the him black like the princess...if they're going on and on about how it's the first black princess ever then why not make the prince their first black prince ever too. no one can tell me that dude is black right there. i assure you i never woke up with my hair looking like that lmao.

lmao!

They are getting there first interracial couple out of the way first. duh. Seriously though the only prince that didn't have the whole insane jaw line thing going on was Aladdin.

[smash]

^they've done the interracial couple thing before just not in an animated movie.