Bashing VS Honesty VS Honesty With Bashing, Forumdickery! Options

[superstitious]

I know that there was a similar topic to this once upon a time, but I figured it's been a while and wanted some fresh opinions.

In your opinion(s):

What do you consider "bashing"?:

What do you consider not bashing, just brutally honest?:

When, in your opinion, should a moderator punish for bashing?

Have you had your Wheaties today?

[Simba]

honestly, wheaties are for f*cking losers

[superstitious]

honestly, wheaties are for f*cking losers

Good starting point, Mr. Capulong! Now, would that be bashing of Wheaties or just an honest opinion of losers?

[Harp]

What do you consider "bashing"?: totally unnecessary name calling...i'm guilty of this

What do you consider not bashing, just brutally honest?: well, i guess when something's true. it's kinda self-explanatory.

When, in your opinion, should a moderator punish for bashing? when it goes too far and someone's feelings get hurt, or someone gets annoyed or angry.

Have you had your Wheaties today? no.

[saintsaens]

I don't even think when Tung warned me that it was member bashing. I can't even say my own opinions about a member here on CB without being reprimanded for it.

My opinion is that member bashing is when I randomly attack a forum member just because I dislike them. My thread, for example, was not just a random attack. Both illmortal and I built up to that because we had differing opinions on shit.

Now, I don't even hate illmortal. I think he's a nice guy to talk to, especially on AIM. But if I can't even call him a f*cking twat because I disagree with his shit, that's just sad. Tung's reason for warning me was "no need to call people twats and ignorant"

I can't even call people ignorant now? Obviously illmortal was angry as well, and yes, we probably could've been more mature with it. However, I don't think warning and closure of my thread was warranted.

I believe mods should only step in when necessary. When I say "only when necessary", I mean mods should hardly interfer with the name calling at all. You guys are not parents, you are all just here to make sure CB isn't spammed by guro pictures. If you continue to interfer with the way the members act and react towards other members, you stump individuality and characters in CB. This, I promise you, makes CB a BORING place.

I'd only warn a member when he illicitly follows around another member just to verbally assault him.

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BTW, I already PM'd two admins about this shizz, but you guys haven't answered yet. (Busy, I understand.) I'd like to request that I be put on the staff alumni group since I indeed was a moderator on this site. (I think I moderated as early as before xangans became CB.)

Thanks.

[Simba]

there's a fine line between attacking someone's points and ideas and attacking somebody



CHRIS BROWN

[*BOSS*]

do U MAD pics count as bashing



i think bashing is when the mention of homoeroticism of goku and vegeta is brought up

[saintsaens]

Mods, stay the shit out of our lives and I promise you CB will be more interesting, and we'll have life back in it. Yes, there will be cliques and there will be members who are going to be loners and just generally hated. However, you can't just stunt the growth of this website just because you don't want a member to be butthurt about another member's comments.

I promise you, mods. I'm pleading with you. Stay the f*ck out of the members interactions with other people until it's absolutely necessary. Even when necessary, use caution and tread lightly.

[Simba]

Kun: cB's Libertarian

'cause you like to kiss the sky amirite

[saintsaens]

Oh, btw. f*ck wheaties. Honeycombs is where they at.

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I wrote all that stoned, btw Juna :D

[brooklyneast05]

bashing is attacking people randomly, or taking un-random arguments too far. i don't care if people get worked up for a few posts when they are debating or something, but there's a limit where they should stop and call it even with the bashing shit. if someone is randomly being attacked, the mods should intervene, becuase that's part of their job to do so.


i still don't understand why people have a such a problem controlling themselves.

[brooklyneast05]

steven is the perfect example of unnecessary bashing


edit:
should have quoted him before he deleted

[Simba]

dang JC doesn't beat around the bush

[sixfive]

bashing is attacking people randomly, or taking un-random arguments too far. i don't care if people get worked up for a few posts when they are debating or something, but there's a limit where they should stop and call it even with the bashing shit. if someone is randomly being attacked, the mods should intervene, becuase that's part of their job to do so.
i still don't understand why people have a such a problem controlling themselves.

steven is the perfect example of unnecessary bashing

Excuse me, JC, but I would appreciate it if you wouldn't double post. Also, what's with this sudden accusation?


p.s.


^_____________^

[brooklyneast05]

i don't know what that means

[sixfive]

Please don't spam.

[brooklyneast05]

sure

[sixfive]

Aw man I was hoping you'd delete your post in order to try to make me look stupid, when in actuality I had the quote that would link your post copied! Touché, JC.

[Simba]

I think people need to shrug off member bashing and just realize

YOUUUUU AREEE BEAAUUUTIIFFFUUULLLL NOOOO MAAAATTTEEERRR WHAAAAAAT THEEEEYYY SAAAYYYY

[sixfive]

im going to go see the rockets beat the cavs tonight :]

[brooklyneast05]

im going to go see the rockets beat the cavs tonight :]

Please don't spam.

[Simba]

stop trashing Reb's topic gaiz

PM prz

[superstitious]

do U MAD pics count as bashing
i think bashing is when the mention of homoeroticism of goku and vegeta is brought up

Ah man, I was bashing?! :(

Mods, stay the shit out of our lives and I promise you CB will be more interesting, and we'll have life back in it. Yes, there will be cliques and there will be members who are going to be loners and just generally hated. However, you can't just stunt the growth of this website just because you don't want a member to be butthurt about another member's comments.

I promise you, mods. I'm pleading with you. Stay the f*ck out of the members interactions with other people until it's absolutely necessary. Even when necessary, use caution and tread lightly.

Gosh, you know, I've actually been thinking that in general, mods are way more relaxed than they used to be. I remember when Suzzette (sorry to bring her up, I don't mean her any insult) was on staff and things were like wayyyy more strict.

I really don't see moderators warning much, at least that's my impression when I go through the warning thread (Backstage).

Please don't think that this is me, backing up staff no matter what they do. That's not what I'm about at all. The reason why I started this thread is to see what the community impression/interpretation of bashing and what not is, as it relates to forum interaction. I like getting the community opinions, always have.

"Stunting growth." It's kind of interesting that you put it that way. When I first joined here, people were really friendly, for the most part. I mean, I'm very old for this site and not one person made fun of me, alienated me or made me feel unwelcome. I remember thinking how cool that was. Fast forward a couple of years and people seemed to not be as welcoming to those who are new. Now, I think that that things are much friendlier,especially if newer folks take the time to get to know people. That's just a general feeling I'm getting though.

Oh, btw. f*ck wheaties. Honeycombs is where they at.

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I wrote all that stoned, btw Juna :D

Dangit, I guess the Wheaties question was a bad idea. haha Honeycombs are ok, but I prefer Frosted Flakes or Frosted Shredded Mini Wheats.

For a 'stoned' response, I thought it was a great reply, by the way.

edit: I'm so damn long winded that I missed several posts! lol

[saintsaens]

Honestly, the mods should be more concerned about how to make CB a better site. The mods should be posting and leading by example. Instead of just posting, mods should be trying their best to create threads that inspire creativity and activities. There are a lot of mods that obviously don't have leadership skills. Some don't even have decent thought processing skills.

That being said, I don't understand why a mod would warn someone for calling another member a "twat" instead of trying to contribute to CB in a positive way.

This is a community, mods. It's not just a forum for you guys to regulate.

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BTW, thanks for the group change.

[saintsaens]

Ah man, I was bashing?! :(

Gosh, you know, I've actually been thinking that in general, mods are way more relaxed than they used to be. I remember when Suzzette (sorry to bring her up, I don't mean her any insult) was on staff and things were like wayyyy more strict.

I really don't see moderators warning much, at least that's my impression when I go through the warning thread (Backstage).

Please don't think that this is me, backing up staff no matter what they do. That's not what I'm about at all. The reason why I started this thread is to see what the community impression/interpretation of bashing and what not is, as it relates to forum interaction. I like getting the community opinions, always have.

"Stunting growth." It's kind of interesting that you put it that way. When I first joined here, people were really friendly, for the most part. I mean, I'm very old for this site and not one person made fun of me, alienated me or made me feel unwelcome. I remember thinking how cool that was. Fast forward a couple of years and people seemed to not be as welcoming to those who are new. Now, I think that that things are much friendlier,especially if newer folks take the time to get to know people. That's just a general feeling I'm getting though.

Dangit, I guess the Wheaties question was a bad idea. haha Honeycombs are ok, but I prefer Frosted Flakes or Frosted Shredded Mini Wheats.

For a 'stoned' response, I thought it was a great reply, by the way.

edit: I'm so damn long winded that I missed several posts! lol

BTW, I will agree that the mods have been doing a great job regulating. By that, I mean that they aren't regulating. That's a good thing.

However, I still think mods should be more active in the forums. I believe that if you're going to take a responsibility to moderate a community, you should be willing to be an active member of said community as well.

I'm also just a little irked that I was warned for calling someone a twat.

[brooklyneast05]

A LOT of people could make more of an effort to improve the site. mods and members a like, and bashing isn't included in making it better either imo.


i said somewhere a couple days ago, i duno where, that mods should make more topics.

[sixfive]

at least im civil with dee now :]

[superstitious]

Honestly, the mods should be more concerned about how to make CB a better site. The mods should be posting and leading by example. Instead of just posting, mods should be trying their best to create threads that inspire creativity and activities.

Oh definitely. But it works both ways, to an extent. Mods should set an example (like JC, who is constantly trying to stimulate cB), but people should also understand that it isn't always necessary to resort to insulting, when being rational and composed shows a lot more intelligence and integrity. That's just my opinion though. I posted this thread to get your (general "you" your) opinion though.

I think that perhaps if there is any question of whether not someone is "bashing", ask what's going on? Maybe people fun around together roughly? I don't know. Just throwing something out there. I don't think that anyone wants a PM every time a mod thinks they might be bashing though. :x

This is a community, mods. It's not just a forum for you guys to regulate.

I think that in general, staff (again, in general) does not feel that this place exists as a means for ego stroking. I could be wrong, I just don't get that impression.

@JC, it was in feedback somewhere. :)

@Steven, yes, you are :)

[Simba]

edit: I'm so damn long winded that I missed several posts! lol

cb members actually make their best posts while high

Honestly, the mods should be more concerned about how to make CB a better site.

fasho



JC, I agree that members and mods alike should be working towards improving the site, mods just need to lead the MOTION MOVEMENT

[saintsaens]

Might I add that mods should be displaying leadership.


Lead me, mods.

[brooklyneast05]

JC, I agree that members and mods alike should be working towards improving the site, mods just need to lead the MOTION MOVEMENT

yeah i would agree with that. i wish some would do more, but i've always had too high of expectations for 95% of the people here anyway i think.

i don't think our staff right now sucks though. sometimes, i think people just like to blame them and use them as an excuse. some people who spend so much time bitching at staff don't even add anything to the community themselves for the most part.

smh, 's

[superstitious]

I believe that if you're going to take a responsibility to moderate a community, you should be willing to be an active member of said community as well.

I agree 10000000000000% with that.

GENERAL GUIDELINES
First and foremost, staff members are here to make sure everyone has a fun experience in these forums. They are here to help out whenever they can, contribute and make interesting new topics, and generally, be nice and sensible! They also enforce the community guidelines, police the forums whenever problems arise, and act as mediators to resolve the disputes, mediators meaning they should never willingly participate to contribute to the problem. They are the solution, not the problem! They also police these forums in a sense that they lessen general mayhem by organizing and making sure that topics in their respective forums belong where they are. Another responsiblity staff members have is to promote the community "togetherness", by making sure everyone feels welcome, participating in the sitewide initiatives, and create some of their own. Generally, staff members have the gaurantee of the site's good grace and support in whatever initiatives, contests, polls they start. So be free and think of ways how you can play a central role in the fastest growing blog community!

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=3012473

[brooklyneast05]

However, I still think mods should be more active in the forums. I believe that if you're going to take a responsibility to moderate a community, you should be willing to be an active member of said community as well.

gotta co-sign with that as well. nothing annoys me more than mods who aren't here

[Simba]

THEN BARACK AND ROLL LIKE OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

[heyo-captain-jac...]

I know that there was a similar topic to this once upon a time, but I figured it's been a while and wanted some fresh opinions.

In your opinion(s):

What do you consider "bashing"?:

What do you consider not bashing, just brutally honest?:

When, in your opinion, should a moderator punish for bashing?

Have you had your Wheaties today?

Bashing is trolling directed towards one member.

Brutally honest is just like bashing, but it's truthful.

A moderator should punish for bashing if it's done repetitively.

I don't think I've ever eaten Wheaties.

[Tung]

I don't even think when Tung warned me that it was member bashing. I can't even say my own opinions about a member here on CB without being reprimanded for it.

My opinion is that member bashing is when I randomly attack a forum member just because I dislike them. My thread, for example, was not just a random attack. Both illmortal and I built up to that because we had differing opinions on shit.

Now, I don't even hate illmortal. I think he's a nice guy to talk to, especially on AIM. But if I can't even call him a f*cking twat because I disagree with his shit, that's just sad. Tung's reason for warning me was "no need to call people twats and ignorant"

I can't even call people ignorant now? Obviously illmortal was angry as well, and yes, we probably could've been more mature with it. However, I don't think warning and closure of my thread was warranted.

I believe mods should only step in when necessary. When I say "only when necessary", I mean mods should hardly interfer with the name calling at all. You guys are not parents, you are all just here to make sure CB isn't spammed by guro pictures. If you continue to interfer with the way the members act and react towards other members, you stump individuality and characters in CB. This, I promise you, makes CB a BORING place.

I'd only warn a member when he illicitly follows around another member just to verbally assault him.

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BTW, I already PM'd two admins about this shizz, but you guys haven't answered yet. (Busy, I understand.) I'd like to request that I be put on the staff alumni group since I indeed was a moderator on this site. (I think I moderated as early as before xangans became CB.)

Thanks.

I just re-read the Wishful thinking thread, and there was a whole page worth of you and Tama both attacking each other. Carrie and others had say that should your topic be closed, since it was a high chance it getting out of hand. I mean just the topic itself is asking to get closed. I told her to leave it open, as I thought it had some chance to survive. However yesterday, you and Tama got out of control, and were bickering back and forth and it wasn't even relevant to the topic anymore. You guys brought in personal stuff, like religion and stuff. You called Tama a twat, a conservative dick, a jackass, and telling him to quit sucking on reidar's dick. How is that now worthy of a 10% warning? The first couple of posts from you and Tama, yeah I was following the thread, and I didn't say anything. But after one whole page, I had to intervene as it got out of control. Still I didn't chose to close the thread, as I thought those warnings would at least stop you guys. You're going to have to talk to Mipadi or Carrie as they were the ones who closed it.

I wished you would have responded or PMed me when you got warned yesterday, instead of going around complaining about your warning. That way I could've at least see what happened personally from you, instead of having to read it in some thread like this.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

I'm not allowed to call Tama an egocentric prick anymore. It saddens me.

[*BOSS*]

All this talk is nice and all, but...


9 members, 3 anonymous members

[Stuckie]

^There are always 100+ guests on CB at any given time.

I dont care if anyone over the net bashes me. Because if we were to meet in person, most people who bash wouldn't say anything. And if one the bold few did say something slick, I'd hit them. So bashing over the net is nothing but a front for the intelligence and balls you lack. Its easy to talk to a computer screen.

Was I even on topic?

[*BOSS*]

^There are always 100+ guests on CB at any given time.

I dont care if anyone over the net bashes me. Because if we were to meet in person, most people who bash wouldn't say anything. And if one the bold few did say something slick, I'd hit them. So bashing over the net is nothing but a front for the intelligence and balls you lack. Its easy to talk to a computer screen.

Was I even on topic?

guests, dont count as part of the community, merely leechers, and even 100 was about 1/3 the amount it was

[Stuckie]

^Yeah. I wasn't on here much. But I do remember the time before MySpace. When Xanga was the site to be on. Thats when there were 100s of users on at a time. Good times. Im just a sucker for nostalgia.

[hypnotique]

there's a fine line between attacking someone's points and ideas and attacking somebody
CHRIS BROWN

LOL for somereason KC popped up in my mind.