unban kryo Options

[sixfive]

seriously guys, he doesn't even do bad shit anymore and he's been behaving well for like, six months? plenty to troll, plenty of opportunities. good behavior

[brooklyneast05]

get real, he has not behaved 6 months


http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=215786

Y-A-K-A's posts before he was rebanned. i have never EVER seen him behave for 6 months.

[Simba]

lol, JC's right. 6 months was stretching the truth a bit...



HE SHOULD STILL BE UNBANNED THOUGH

[Tung]

I'll have to give it a thought to agree on unbanning him. He hasn't really shown any reason why he would be able to come back and post without bashing and threatening mods.

[Simba]

I'll have to give it a thought to agree on unbanning him. He hasn't really shown any reason why he would be able to come back and post without bashing and threatening mods.

can't lie, he probably will keep bashing one way or another, you guys will just have to moderate that, but bottom line, he's one of the more contributive members of cB


ps he didn't threaten mods again until you duped syco

[Tung]

Well I dunno.

You'll have to ask the LADIES of cB. aka, Dani, Cristy, Dee, Natalia, and maybe Rebecca.

[brooklyneast05]

i don't think contributes a whole lot, becuase he can't seem to do it half the time without the word f*g or some other bashing. it's really not that hard to behave, i don't understand why that's so hard for some people. i have no problem contributing to cb without being a complete prick to people here. why can other people not do this?


i think james could be great. he's a smart guy. when i'm talking to him in cbc, i like him. he's nice. i don't at all understand why he can't just act the same on here as he does off the boards.

that being said, i have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever that he's banned. no one forces him to bash to the extent he does. no one forced him to spam thousands and thousands of things into the queue. no one forces him to do the shit that gets him in trouble.

[Simba]

lol, it's all an endless cycle

[sixfive]

to be fair though, the people on the boards vs the people on cbc, cbc is wayyyyy more tolerable. cbc can be cliquey, but it's not without reason. im aware that we need the stupid members as much as we need the intelligent ones, but often people are asking for what they get. cbc = internet school of hard knocks + being rich

[brooklyneast05]

i don't know. i just don't see the debate for him to come back, other than the fact he's your friend. if you step back and look at it objectively though, anyone who has done the shit he has would be banned. i duno, but either way i don't think threatening staff more is going to help the case.

edit:

to be fair though, the people on the boards vs the people on cbc, cbc is wayyyyy more tolerable. cbc can be cliquey, but it's not without reason. im aware that we need the stupid members as much as we need the intelligent ones, but often people are asking for what they get. cbc = internet school of hard knocks + being rich

yes agreed, but bashing is still a choice you make. i make the choice not to. if someone else can't control themselves and break the rules, that's their own fault.

[Simba]

haha, actually there's no point in debating any further, it's already been discussed before (once or twice or more)


in the end, he'll be back

[brooklyneast05]

in the end, he'll be back

exactly

[superstitious]

it's all an endless cycle

I'm not saying that Kryo isn't a cool guy or that he's incapable of being civil. I've seen some good posts from him. However, I've seen a ton of bullshit (sorry) as well. It's not as if he was banned for spamming (like prince) or banned for even one particular offense.

Seriously, you guys should have seen that queue when it was spammed. I mean, damn. lol He never apologized either. In fact, he justified his behavior based on an odd argument with Kristina and Dee's warning (or something like that).

I don't know. I like and try to be fair but sometimes it gets to the point when things are pushed too far, and too often.

I'm with JC on this, sorry guys.

[Simba]

Seriously, you guys should have seen that queue when it was spammed.

lol...


it's cool, it doesn't matter what any of us say, haha

[karmakiller]

He comes around and posts on accounts, and he still's still the same Kryo. I don't understand why people want us to let him come back when he's already here. If you take a few seconds to look at the shit he's done you'd realize he's banned for a good reason. He's spammed the tutorials and staff had to go through one by one and remove the submissions. Yet people were complaining that DS wasn't doing enough.

[superstitious]

lol...
it's cool, it doesn't matter what any of us say, haha

You little stinker. :p

And yeah, too much debate on this is pretty futile. He'll be back, an account will be rebanned, another thread will be created for his return... dogs and cats, living together... mass hysteria.

[Simba]

You little stinker. :p

Come on come on
I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself
is life worth living should I BLASS myself?
I'm tired of bein' poor & even worse I'm black
my stomach hurts so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
pull the trigger kill a n*gga he's a hero
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
one less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers
give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other
It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead
I got love for my brother but we can never go nowhere
unless we share with each other
We gotta start makin' changes
learn to see me as a brother instead of 2 distant strangers
and that's how it's supposed to be
How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me?
I'd love to go back to when we played as kids
but things changed, and that's the way it is

Come on come on
That's just the way it is
Things'll never be the same
That's just the way it is
aww yeah

Come on come on
That's just the way it is
Things'll never be the same
That's just the way it is
aww yeah

I see no changes all I see is racist faces
misplaced hate makes disgrace to races
We under I wonder what it takes to make this
one better place, let's erase the wasted
Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right
'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight
and only time we chill is when we kill each other
it takes skill to be real, time to heal each other
And although it seems heaven sent
We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh
It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact
the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks
But some things will never change
try to show another way but you stayin' in the dope game
Now tell me what's a mother to do
bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you
You gotta operate the easy way
"I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way
sellin' crack to the kid. " I gotta get paid,"
Well hey, well that's the way it is

We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.

And still I see no changes can't a brother get a little peace
It's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East
Instead of war on poverty they got a war on drugs
so the police can bother me
And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do
But now I'm back with the facts givin' it back to you
Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up,
crack you up and pimp smack you up
You gotta learn to hold ya own
they get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone
But tell the cops they can't touch this
I don't trust this when they try to rush I bust this
That's the sound of my tool you say it ain't cool
my mama didn't raise no fool
And as long as I stay black I gotta stay strapped
& I never get to lay back
'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs
some punk that I roughed up way back
comin' back after all these years
rat-tat-tat-tat-tat that's the way it is uhh

Some things will never change...

[manny-the-dino]

Eh I'm going to have to say no as well. Like everyone has mentioned, look at what he did to the queue. Not fun for all of us who had to clear that out. If he really wanted to prove that he's changed & can behave himself, he wouldn't be making duplicate accounts & bashing everyone.

[batman]

I really don't think James was that bad in the account that just got banned. He didn't really bash anyone more than any non-banned members.

And yeah, the queue spam was annoying, but didn't you guys have a quick fix for that? I personally think its time to get over it.

Why don't you let him back but put him on probation. Let him post for the next three months or so, but if he steps out of line, reinstate the ban and we'll let it chill, no problem.

[brooklyneast05]

i think it goes both ways. james could have "got over it" in regards to his petty problems with the staff. that would have been a better alternative than spamming our DS who did NOTHING at all to him in the first place. it's completely illogical to me to get pissed because someone gave you a warning and proceed to flip the f*ck out to that extent until someone lowers your warning and all of that. like who cares, warnings don't even matter until you're at 100% or something. i just don't get how it was ever such a huge problem to him.


i'm just saying. i don't see how it's not his own fault that he repeatedly did all that shit. if staff wants to bring him back, i'm fine with it, i just don't think that they are obligated to at this point because he willingly chose to drive them to that limit.


i guess i don't understand the "struggle" of cb members

[Simba]

Just tell homeboy to wait it out a little longer

Just tell homeboy

homeboy
homeboy
homeboy

wat

[DoubleJ]

no disrespect, but to say that staff would have to deal with him bashing somebody is a very silly statement IMO. How would you feel if at one of your photoshoots, somebody was bitching and moaning about everything?

[Simba]

no disrespect, but to say that staff would have to deal with him bashing somebody is a very silly statement IMO. How would you feel if at one of your photoshoots, somebody was bitching and moaning about everything?

...Not the best analogy, but I've dealt with it because the needs of the client are more important than mine at the time. And if you really want to make the crossover, that means that since you're all cB moderators and your duty, according to the moderator guidelines, is to make the cB experience more enjoyable for its members, you would have to deal with Kryo's bashing if the community theoretically wanted him unbanned.

not that any of that, or anything else debated, matters, since he can pretty much come and go as he pleases


and lol dang Javonn, that was kind of a low blow

[brooklyneast05]

...Not the best analogy, but I've dealt with it because the needs of the client are more important than mine at the time. And if you really want to make the crossover, that means that since you're all cB moderators and your duty, according to the moderator guidelines, is to make the cB experience more enjoyable for its members, you would have to deal with Kryo's bashing if the community theoretically wanted him unbanned.

not that any of that, or anything else debated, matters, since he can pretty much come and go as he pleases
and lol dang Javonn, that was kind of a low blow

there isn't enough members who would want him unbanned for the sake of makeing the cb experience better. only his friends feel the cb experience is better with him here. the rest of people who he bashes or ignores either wouldn't care or enjoy the cb experience more without him telling them what stupid f*gs they are.

i don't think he has the mass appeal that would make it where a majority of members feel it would be better with him here. by removing someone who broke a million rules and insulted a ton of people, the mods were doing their jobs.

so yeah, an extremely theoretical situation imo


but besides that, i agree with arjuna and dee, he comes and goes as he pleases anyway so i don't see the big deal with having to unban him.

[DoubleJ]

...Not the best analogy, but I've dealt with it because the needs of the client are more important than mine at the time. And if you really want to make the crossover, that means that since you're all cB moderators and your duty, according to the moderator guidelines, is to make the cB experience more enjoyable for its members, you would have to deal with Kryo's bashing if the community theoretically wanted him unbanned.

not that any of that, or anything else debated, matters, since he can pretty much come and go as he pleases
and lol dang Javonn, that was kind of a low blow

Lol you know I didn't mean for the low blow...no homo haha. My point was that we shouldn't "have" to deal with this unruly behavior just like say for instance I shouldn't have to deal with the unruly clients I face at work.

[Simba]

lol it's cool Javonn, I'd still drank (water) wit a boy

word JC

[DoubleJ]

water?! we drink that cognac up hurr

[Simba]

dang that reminds me of the fb poker days when cognac went table 'round

[Tung]

lmao @ fb poker days. i hella hustle all yall niggahs. rofl

[King-James]

get real, he has not behaved 6 months
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=215786

Y-A-K-A\\\'s posts before he was rebanned. i have never EVER seen him behave for 6 months.

Boo hoo, that happened in January. 5 months then. Besides, where did I break any rules? The only thing I did differently than NoSex was disagree with you.

i don\\\'t know. i just don\\\'t see the debate for him to come back, other than the fact he\\\'s your friend. if you step back and look at it objectively though, anyone who has done the shit he has would be banned. i duno, but either way i don\\\'t think threatening staff more is going to help the case.

edit:
yes agreed, but bashing is still a choice you make. i make the choice not to. if someone else can\\\'t control themselves and break the rules, that\\\'s their own fault.

The fact of the matter is that I would not have done what I had done if the mods weren\\\'t complete tools.

Threatening staff isn\\\'t going to help the cause, but if you guys are giving me a hard time, you deserve a hard time back.

I don\\\'t get why it\\\'s wrong to bash. Why can you compliment someone, but you can\\\'t insult them?

How about when the mods break the rules? How about when they unfairly ban people, and the only way for that person to communicate is to break rules? You guys singled me out and backed me into a corner, how else could I have responded?

None of you ever stopped and bothered to listen to my side of the story. The same shit happened when I was giving Suzette shit for what she and the staff were doing. Few if any of you acknowledged that I was right and you were wrong.

I\\\'m trying to highlight the big issue here: there is absolutely no accountability for staff when they abuse their powers. When Thomas did something stupid, it took a lot of noise to get something to happen, and all that happened was what, a demotion for one month? What a joke!

I\\\'m not saying that Kryo isn\\\'t a cool guy or that he\\\'s incapable of being civil. I\\\'ve seen some good posts from him. However, I\\\'ve seen a ton of bullshit (sorry) as well. It\\\'s not as if he was banned for spamming (like prince) or banned for even one particular offense.

Seriously, you guys should have seen that queue when it was spammed. I mean, damn. lol He never apologized either. In fact, he justified his behavior based on an odd argument with Kristina and Dee\\\'s warning (or something like that).

I don\\\'t know. I like and try to be fair but sometimes it gets to the point when things are pushed too far, and too often.

I\\\'m with JC on this, sorry guys.

You liar. I apologized, and offered to forgive you guys. I even said I would f*cking clean that shit up either by a script, or doing it manually. You guys were the stone cold jerks.

EVERY SINGLE TIME there was a problem between me and the staff, I was the one who reached out and tried to make peace. Every single time I swallowed my pride and delivered the olive branch. But you guys just can\\\'t get past your egos.

He comes around and posts on accounts, and he still\\\'s still the same Kryo. I don\\\'t understand why people want us to let him come back when he\\\'s already here. If you take a few seconds to look at the shit he\\\'s done you\\\'d realize he\\\'s banned for a good reason. He\\\'s spammed the tutorials and staff had to go through one by one and remove the submissions. Yet people were complaining that DS wasn\\\'t doing enough.

How can you say that when you keep duping my accounts so that I can\'t post?

And don\'t lie. You know you guys did not delete those submissions one by one.

I\'ll respond again later. I just can\'t believe you guys would lie about this stuff...

[brooklyneast05]

i mean i can just flat out say i don't understand you. i do not think i'm a really unfair person and have some vedetta against you. like i said, in cbc, you're a nice guy and are enjoyable. which is why i don't understand why it's different whenever you get here. i just really really really don't understand some of your reactions to things around here.

i duno. if you would pm me or something, i would listen to your side. at this point though i just don't get it. your history and problems here run so far past the amount of time i've been here, that i don't even understand how all your problems with people started.

[King-James]

[redacted] I talked to JC, let him explain.

[brooklyneast05]

i don't remember when you've ever apologized to me for sending reports? you did in a thread?

[King-James]

I talked to all of you in CBC. I explained that I was sorry you guys were getting the reports. Later on, I even switched to simply PMing the staff that I did have shit with to prevent you guys from having your inboxes filled.

[King-James]

What did you want me to do? How else could I have gotten you guys to realize I wasn\\\\\\\'t kidding?

You went out of your way to give me crap, so I did the same back to you guys.

I really can\\\\\\\'t see how you guys can think that you did absolutely nothing wrong here. You don\\\'t think you handled this poorly? Not even a little bit? Are you guys that stuck up?

I\'ve already forgiven all of you guys. But if you don\'t forgive me, I\'ll take it back. There will be blood. No Mercy Part 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[superstitious]

Point me out to your apology and I'll apologize to you for forgetting or not reading it. I'm being totally sincere. It's fairly rare for me to be accused of lying, as it is something I feel very strong about. It's even more rare for someone to actually have any validity in that type of accusation.

Handling things the right away all the time? Sure, I can see mistakes but the way you react is pretty ridiculous sometimes.

I heard JC's account of your conversation. I think it's cool that you guys chatted one on one. I really do. But then I come to this thread and read your response, I read your threats ("staff has until Sunday") and it makes it really difficult for me to find any sincerity in what you say. I'm sorry, but that's just how I feel about it.

I will support the decision staff makes as a whole and I wish you the best of luck (and them, for that matter).

Also, I do appreciate that you were one of the first handful to have an account here and I do appreciate that sometimes you post thoughtfully and intelligently.

[King-James]

Point me out to your apology and I\'ll apologize to you for forgetting or not reading it. I\'m being totally sincere. It\'s fairly rare for me to be accused of lying, as it is something I feel very strong about. It\'s even more rare for someone to actually have any validity in that type of accusation.

Handling things the right away all the time? Sure, I can see mistakes but the way you react is pretty ridiculous sometimes.

I heard JC\'s account of your conversation. I think it\'s cool that you guys chatted one on one. I really do. But then I come to this thread and read your response, I read your threats (\"staff has until Sunday\") and it makes it really difficult for me to find any sincerity in what you say. I\'m sorry, but that\'s just how I feel about it.

I will support the decision staff makes as a whole and I wish you the best of luck (and them, for that matter).

Also, I do appreciate that you were one of the first handful to have an account here and I do appreciate that sometimes you post thoughtfully and intelligently.

Look through your old PMs, or it might have been on AIM. Actually, I might have even did it in feedback too, but it\'s hard as hell to look up my old posts because you guys forced me to change accounts over nine thousand times.

I can\'t believe you guys can\'t find any blame within yourselves for this. Why am I only giving you until Sunday? You guys need to be forced to act. Otherwise you\'ll simply ignore me like you\'ve been doing for the past several years.

It makes it really tough to want to forgive you for any of this. I can\'t take any of your comments sincerely based on YEARS of singling me out and treating me like shit, but you know what, I\'m giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, at least until Sunday. You think it\'s fair to expect me to extend my hand for a handshake, and not want to punch you in the face after you spit on it?

My mind is made up. You guys can choose to forgive and forget, or I can pay you back for everything you deserve after treating me the way you guys did.

[superstitious]

Look through your old PMs, or it might have been on AIM. Actually, I might have even did it in feedback too, but it\'s hard as hell to look up my old posts because you guys forced me to change accounts over nine thousand times.

I can\'t believe you guys can\'t find any blame within yourselves for this. Why am I only giving you until Sunday? You guys need to be forced to act. Otherwise you\'ll simply ignore me like you\'ve been doing for the past several years.

It makes it really tough to want to forgive you for any of this. I can\'t take any of your comments sincerely based on YEARS of singling me out and treating me like shit, but you know what, I\'m giving you guys the benefit of the doubt, at least until Sunday. You think it\'s fair to expect me to extend my hand for a handshake, and not want to punch you in the face after you spit on it?

My mind is made up. You guys can choose to forgive and forget, or I can pay you back for everything you deserve after treating me the way you guys did.

I have, and there are no old PM's reflecting that. When I get home (I'm at work right now), I'll go through feedback, if you'd like but honestly, I have no recollection at all of you apologizing or showing any remorse.

Also, I said that mistakes have happened.

"I can pay you back"... that is why I can't find sincerity in the conversations you have outside of cB, regarding being unbanned.

At any rate, I have "Administrator" next to my name but I stepped down ages ago. Perhaps you can find comfort in knowing that I'm only a mentor and as such, only an opinion giver. The decision ultimately rests upon the staff.

There really isn't anything more I can say at this point. I admit that staff doesn't always do things the right way or the best way and that mistakes certainly have been made in the past. Your reactions and actions, however, exceed that which is rational. My opinion, of course, and I've already said that the decision is not mine.

[saintsaens]

If I had to pick someone to represent CB as the mother figure, I'd nominate Reb. She's definitely been the mother to take care of this site over the years.

Pity to see you step down from that position.

[saintsaens]

On a side note: I'd nominate Sandy for runner up. LMFAO.

[King-James]

I have, and there are no old PM\'s reflecting that. When I get home (I\'m at work right now), I\'ll go through feedback, if you\'d like but honestly, I have no recollection at all of you apologizing or showing any remorse.

Also, I said that mistakes have happened.

\"I can pay you back\"... that is why I can\'t find sincerity in the conversations you have outside of cB, regarding being unbanned.

At any rate, I have\"Administrator\" next to my name but I stepped down ages ago. Perhaps you can find comfort in knowing that I\'m only a mentor and as such, only an opinion giver. The decision ultimately rests upon the staff.

There really isn\'t anything more I can say at this point. I admit that staff doesn\'t always do things the right way or the best way and that mistakes certainly have been made in the past. Your reactions and actions, however, exceed that which is rational. My opinion, of course, and I\'ve already said that the decision is not mine.

I can\'t win with you guys. If I don\'t make threats, you guys just ignore me. If I do make threats, you guys say I\'m not being sincere. The whole reason I\'m making threats is because I\'M f*ckING SERIOUS.

If you\'re looking for any excuse not to accept any responsibility for what happened, then I don\'t know what to tell you other than you deserve everything you\'re going to get.

Someone tell if you guys are actually seriously pondering this stuff, or if I should just call off the deadline now.

[Tung]

Till this very day, I still don't understand what staff did to you. All I remember is you getting warned or something that you said was unfair. You got pissed off, and threaten staff, and started spamming the queue?

[*BOSS*]

he aint the only one

[brooklyneast05]

i have made a topic, and it is being discussed. that's all i know to tell you on whether or not it's being seriously pondered.

[King-James]

Thanks so much for your consideration!

[Simba]

dang wtf happened back here lol





and oh see heeeeeerreeeeeee's kryo

[King-James]

Friendly Reminder!

[King-James]

dang wtf happened back here lol
and oh see heeeeeerreeeeeee\\\'s kryo

AWWWW HAIL NO DOG AIN\\\'T NO POLICE HERE

*SMASHES ARJUNA\\\'S CAMERA

[Simba]

AWWWW HAIL NO DOG AIN\\\'T NO POLICE HERE

*SMASHES ARJUNA\\\'S CAMERA

AWWW HAAAIIILL NAWWW

click to enlarge

[drinksmokefuck]

bump

[tokyo-rose]

bump

Hey, you're back! And I should be asleep, but...yeah.

Why the heck did you bump this?

[drinksmokefuck]

cause its about yo boo

[superstitious]

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