Past Lives, ... Options

[emberfly]

There's no religion section, so I didn't know where to put this.

Do you believe in past lives? Why or why not?

I'm curious as to what the non-Christians believe in.

[synatribe]

ehhh, my family believes we had past lives and will continue to have lives, I always wish that I was some sort of war hero, ehhh or a king or something :]

[emberfly]

I'm not sure what my family believes. We don't ever talk about religion. I think past lives is the most realistic religious thing to believe in.

[brooklyneast05]

no i don't believe in past lives.

[emberfly]

^ why/why not?

[brooklyneast05]

because i think i would have to believe in "spirits" or "souls" that exist apart from our physical body that lives on, and i don't believe in that.


what's the evidence for past lives? why do you think that's realistic that it would happen?

[synatribe]

this should go to debate, just saying, I honestly dont know why I belive in past lives either, it could be my family background, seeming that we are Asian and I was born that way, or its just my fantastical imagination, either way I just believe it and idk why

[emberfly]

http://www.paralumun.com/pastchild.htm

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I think past lives is a way nicer thought than going to some acid-trip happiness for eternity.

BUT, I was never told what to believe when I was little, so I really have no idea about any religion.

[Harp]

i'm not sure if i do or not. i guess it's something i'm undecided on.
i was raised into a Christian household, but once i was old enough, my mom told me to follow whatever i felt to believe true.
i don't know how to explain this...i don't believe in a heaven and hell, but i don't think we just die and then after are non-existent.

i dunno, maybe someone will understand that.

[synatribe]

i'm not sure if i do or not. i guess it's something i'm undecided on.
i was raised into a Christian household, but once i was old enough, my mom told me to follow whatever i felt to believe true.
i don't know how to explain this...i don't believe in a heaven and hell, but i don't think we just die and then after are non-existent.

i dunno, maybe someone will understand that.

thats what my family believes in, we dont believe in heaven or hell, just a God (i dont mean christian god) and we just believe we just become recycled on Earth

[emberfly]

I understand you, YukkaPukka. I just can't grasp the concept of not existing anymore. We must go somewhere? Eternal slumber? I just can't grasp the concept of that. I think we have to at least go somewhere... anywhere.

thats what my family believes in, we dont believe in heaven or hell, just a God (i dont mean christian god) and we just believe we just become recycled on Earth _unsure.gif

I definitely think there is some sort of greater being out there, but I definitely don't think it's the Christian god that murdered his own son.

I think we get recycled, too, and it's a scientific fact that our bodies will be recycled, yes, but where does our energy go?

Energy can neither be created, nor destroyed.

so where does it go? where does it come from?

[brooklyneast05]

what do you mean our energy comes from our working body. our heart pumping, our brain working, blabalbalabla. it's like a machine. you don't claim a working machine has "energy" after it quits working.

well, i don't know, i think you should define energy better.


i think you're misquoting newton. he isn't talking about the energy you are talking about. you're making statements about souls and other lives it seems and that has nothing to with newton's laws

[emberfly]

OK. Well, we must have had energy to have started life. If you believe in evolution, then think back to the tiny microscopic organisms that just miraculously started growing on the earth billions of years ago. Where did the energy come from that started their growth? What came together and decided to start making organisms?

I agree that Newton is talking about the energy that we produce with our bodies, but after we die, that energy has to go somewhere?

[brooklyneast05]

first you should study abiogensis. second, why does our "energy" in our body have to go anywhere? you die and your heart stops beating and your body stops producing energy. i think you misread me. i didn't say newton is referring to energy in our bodies. i don't believe he is talking about what you are.


well, like i said i think you need to define what "energy" you are talking about more. i don't understand why you think energy wouldn't stop when what's producing it stops working or that it would need to go find another body to live in. like i said that is very much like you're talking about a soul and your using the word energy instead so that's confusing. i think we're thinking of two different things though.


you should read about more religious ideas and arguments for them or against them. you're lucky enough to not have had bullshit shoved down your throat as a child so props to your parents on that. you're like a blank slate and now you just need to figure out what you believe in. i wouldn't say though that mozart writing music at 4 is a good piece of evidence for a past life or whatever link you gave me earlier though.

[DoubleJ]

I don't necessarily believe in them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did exist.

[Impressive]

Nothing besides Life And Death Are Absolute. We are in a world that tries to label everything because it comforts the mind to see logic and reason. Unfortunately the mind cannot comprehend what it does not know.

Examples..would be the naming of objects, or minerals, the names of food, or liquids, and so fourth... how did we come up with names for these things? Just another example of how the mind develops a label to comfort and explain things it doesn't understand. Unlike infinite space, the mind has a capacity that once at a certain point it cannot comprehend what it doesn't understand. Which is why it is taking us so long to grasp the concept of the things we cannot explain.

So in conclusion. The only things that would be considered absolute to our minds truly, are Life and Death. Because if you look at everything else, and then see that we are built on a society of logic and reason. That was taught to us, that was pasted down from generation to generation. What actually makes what we are taught really accurate? What allows us to give it a label? It almost seems like a limited trapped mind is all we posses. It is hard to grasp which is why people don't except it. Which is why I believe we have barely even begun to grasp the intelligence of anything at all.

[fameONE]

I don't necessarily believe in them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did exist.

I agree.

It's difficult enough to deal with the past, present and future in my current life. There's no need for me to get wrapped up in thinking about the lives I may or may not have lived, and the life after this one.

[brooklyneast05]

It's difficult enough to deal with the past, present and future in my current life. There's no need for me to get wrapped up in thinking about the lives I may or may not have lived, and the life after this one.

for real. who honestly cares if you were a racoon in some other life? i wouldn't care even if i some how thought this wasn't a impractical idea.


but i just don't understand how it even makes sense they would exist the idea that a life would jump around eternally from one body to the next sounds silly to me. of course i don't believe in ghosts either, or souls, or god, or unicorns, or fairies, or reincarnation, or anything i guess.

i believe in though better believe that