College is a scam |
College is a scam |
Dec 25 2008, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE While I was in college still trying to figure what I was supposed to do there, I heard a speaker who said college was the biggest scam on earth. You see as a young kid you don’t realize how much college costs. For some, your parents will pay for it, for others you’ll take out a loan. “Yaay, the government is going to pay for me.” You have a great time. Parties, drinking, occasional class, more parties, then you finally graduate (Yippee!) You spend more time partying and drinking with friends after graduation. You’re living it up, life can’t get any better right? Then comes the first letter, BAM! It hits you right in the face: “Dear Johnny Boy, you owe a gazillion dollars in debt, we’d like it very soon or we’ll come after you because the country is in debt” At this point, you’ve already run to your mommy and daddy, crying and asking for help. They can’t help you because you’ve yelled and screamed at them and moved out of the house. You wanted to be a “man”. But also because they have no money to give you. You see while you were busy going out and living your life, they lost their jobs and now are wondering how to get it back. So you find a crappy job and you start working 90+ hours a week to pay off the debt. You’re always tired and still broke. You’re friends stop calling you, since you can’t go out anymore. You’re girlfriend dumps you, since you can’t go out anymore. Oh what to do? Do you ever wonder if college is a scam considering many educated people can’t get jobs or are over qualified for a position? How are you getting your college or future college education paid for? http://weblog.dollarish.com/dollarish/6860...tml?itemrelated any thoughts? |
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Dec 25 2008, 09:01 PM
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rawr? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,705 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 285,858 |
shouldn't this be in Academia- School section??
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Dec 25 2008, 09:16 PM
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![]() An original Harry Potter fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,469 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 552,023 |
I believe that college can be a scam it really depends!
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Dec 25 2008, 09:27 PM
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
no i don't think college is a "scam". i think college should cost less in general, but i don't see how it's a scam. i think if people feel it's a scam that's probably their own fault for scamming themselves rather than making the money paid be worth something. yeah some educated people can't get jobs, but not near as many as uneducated people who can't get jobs. pretty sure no one 100% guaranteed me a job if i went to college anyway. i duno how people get scammed when they shoulda knew the deal to begin with.
i think college is more about starting something and finishing it than anything else really. |
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Dec 25 2008, 09:41 PM
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![]() poison ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
I agree with my
1. Maybe they went to a college that businesses dont prefer 2. The economy is pretty crappy right now so most bosses might want less workers in order to pay them less. I also kind find the article kinda childish. To me it sounds like a college student was a complete party animal and didnt concentrate on his studies that well there fore failed and cant find a job. |
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Dec 25 2008, 09:44 PM
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
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Dec 25 2008, 10:24 PM
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![]() we jerkin' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,408 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 210,730 |
College isnt a scam. Especially if you don't make the most of it.
You could get schlarships or financial aid to help pay or even grants. You can't replace the expirience of going to college. And the MANY MANY people/networking you gain from it. At least that's the way i feel. You never know when your acquaintance is going to be the person interviewing you for your next job or could put in a good word for you. |
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Dec 25 2008, 10:24 PM
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BBM: 310ED181 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 613 Joined: Jul 2008 Member No: 671,976 |
This is a dumb topic, close it.
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Dec 26 2008, 12:22 AM
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Adobe Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,237 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 113,043 |
This article illustrates the EXTREME case involved very spoiled, lazy and/or ungrateful people. There's TONS of scholarships that are not merit based that are floating out their in the world. It's about getting off your lazy butt and going after them.
And the article fails to talk about how you can benefit in your career from a degree. It was obviously written by someone who had no direction and wasn't a driven individual. Bias much? Dumb. |
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Dec 26 2008, 05:36 AM
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![]() that's what she said ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 848 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 436,512 |
hmm colleges are pricey, yes. but if the person spent most of their time partying in college & not giving a fuck about their education, then they don't even deserve to have a good paying job.
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Dec 26 2008, 06:00 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: May 2007 Member No: 523,843 |
Stop studying Arts and get a worthwhile degree.
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Jan 2 2009, 06:32 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 2,648 Joined: Apr 2008 Member No: 639,265 |
The article itself is silly, but it poses a question that is worth discussing. As a recent college graduate, I sometimes wonder what my degree really means. The importance of college has changed in just a few generations; two or three generations ago, obtaining a college degree was a truly worthwhile accomplishment that differentiated one from his peers. Now, a college degree itself doesn't really mean much; in fact, its the lack of a degree that speaks louder than having a degree. Nowadays, college more or less just shows that you can start something and finish it. A lot of people don't even work in their degree area once they get out into the workplace. Colleges are businesses; the product they sell is education. Like any good business, they've managed to convince everyone -- employers included -- that you need their product. That's right -- a degree is little more than a product, and students are little more than consumers.
Anyone who's been to college can see the truth in that statement. How many people in college really want to be there? Most people go not because they have a thirst for learning, not because they're intellectual curious, but because it's expected; and it's required to have a degree -- any degree will do -- in order to get any sort of decent job. This demand for a piece of paper has driven the cost of college tuition through the roof. So college is probably a scam, insofar as any business is a "scam". But that doesn't mean that a clever, intellectual, or driven student can't make the most of his education to change the world for the better. The problem that I see is that college is so expensive that most students, upon leaving, are really only concerned with "making a lot of money", and not actually actively using their education to better the world around them. Sure, most students pay lip service to the idea of making the world a better place, but how many actually go out there and do it after graduating? Certainly a good chunk do, but I'd wager that most don't. |
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Jan 6 2009, 02:35 AM
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![]() Happy Person ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,729 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,674 |
As a current college student (on break!
But if you don't even know what you can get out of College and its educational opportunities, then yeah College is a scam. It'll gladly let you keep studying, change majors, as long as you feed it money. In that case, good luck afterward. |
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Jan 7 2009, 04:28 PM
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![]() [leave blank] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 142 Joined: Jun 2007 Member No: 536,546 |
This article illustrates the EXTREME case involved very spoiled, lazy and/or ungrateful people. There's TONS of scholarships that are not merit based that are floating out their in the world. It's about getting off your lazy butt and going after them. And the article fails to talk about how you can benefit in your career from a degree. It was obviously written by someone who had no direction and wasn't a driven individual. Bias much? Dumb. I agree. |
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