First Debate, McCain & Obama Options

[brooklyneast05]

we'll talk about it here


starts in an hour kids

[Tung]

Sorry, but what time does it start and is it today?

Gotcha

[brooklyneast05]

Sorry, but what time does it start and is it today?

haha i just edited right before that

it's today, 51 minutes to be exact

you got me

[Tung]

Man! I have work in 42 minutes. You think it'll be posted on YouTube?

[1angel3]

^ Maybe myspace

[brooklyneast05]

yeah i'm sure youtube will have it

[Amaranthus]

Which channel?

[1angel3]

CNN, its on now

[Amaranthus]

LOL I just watching it on ABC.
McCain is a Pompous f**k.

[DoubleJ]

Yeah...He is really trying to talk down to Obama.

[Amaranthus]

Yes, and his condescending chuckling really makes him look like a a-hole

[DoubleJ]

This last question is very good.

[karmakiller]

McCain needs to adjust his dentures.

"We've had greascch successshh"

[brooklyneast05]

well this wasn't very exciting.

[Amaranthus]

No, it wasn't.
I'm glad that they've mentioned how often McCain criticized Obama with statements like "Senator Obama doesn't understand" or things like "I've been to Pakistan in 2003".

[DoubleJ]

I am licking my chops for the debate next week! Palin is really going to get owned.

[1angel3]

It was funny when Obama turn to McCain and pointed to him and said "you said this about Iraq and you was wrong and then you said this about Irag and you was wrong!".

Did anyone notice that McCain didn't look at Obama much? Isn't important to make eye contact in a debate?

[DoubleJ]

Yes! McCain looked almost scared to look at him.

[1angel3]

I think he was scared.

[*paperplane*]

My roommate and her friend wouldn't let me turn on the debate because they didn't want to watch, but I look forward to watching tomorrow.

[Teesa]

i am so incredibly proud of barack. he started out strong and seemed so presidential during the entire debate.

i am so disappointed that mccain would be so demeaning. that definitely will not help him with independent voters.

[andrewexd]

Pretty boring.. What was up with mccain calling obama naive and all that shit. Obama was too laid back and both ignored some questions. I would say mccain won this one. Whatever, at least we have palin vs. Biden which will be better. By better I mean funny and by funny I mean biden is going to rip her.

[Reidar]

McCain is bad ass, but Palin is atrocious at answering questions. Contrary to the picture that Kool-Aid drinkers on both sides may try to paint, tonight's debate wasn't dominated by either candidate (both had gaffes that I can easily cite), but I can't see the same happening for the VP exchange.

[sixfive]

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[fameONE]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/presidential_debate_analysis

Excellent analysis that sums the debate up quite well.

[coconutter]

I can't help but wonder if Palin feels like she's going to get owned. She has a haughty attitude and I wonder if she believes she can out debate Biden? Hmmmmmm

[andrewexd]

if biden comes out too strong it could be bad for both palin and biden. inevitable sexism... and whatnot. if palin says "i saiad thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere" i will fly to her house and smack her.

[brooklyneast05]

palin's gonna beat biden. anyone who can see russia from their house obviously has the upper hand & is more qualified imo. what can biden see from his house?


i hope there isn't all that sexism crap. people are f**king dumb when it comes to that shit, it's more sexist to go easy on her because she's a woman than it is to really question her.

[fameONE]

Palin doesn't have the skillset to box with Biden. He pulls no punches and he has a certain whiskey-drinking edge about him that may overwhelm Palin in the debate.

[Teesa]

the thing to remember is that biden (even though i am in love with the man and want him to tear palin apart)cannot be too harsh or attack her. when obama kind of attacked hilary during the debates when the two were running against each other, the poll numbers went down for him.

but after seeing the gibson and couric interviews, i just don't think palin has even enough information to answer certain questions. she'll probably say, "let me get back to ya on that!"

[karmakiller]

^ That's the thing that bugs me about Palin. She avoids and avoids some more.

It's going to be interesting.

[towntown2]

I hope Palin doesn't say, "good old boys" again, either.

The debate overall was okay.
It wasn't by-the-edge-of-my-seat kind of debate, but I understand the solemn atmosphere.

Obama did well, I thought.
I didn't appreciate McCain reverting back to, "Senator Obama doesn't understand," or "He has no experience with..."

[brooklyneast05]

i don't get why everyone keeps talking about how mccain said "senator obama doesn't understand". what's so bad about that if he thinks obama doesn't understand and he says so?

obama says all the time that mccain "doesn't get it" on a whole number of issues.

i think it's fine for both of them to say the other one doesn't understand if that's what they feel the other persons policies reflect.

[Teesa]

i think it was just the repetition of mccain saying that while obama was being slightly friendlier by constantly saying that "mccain was absolutely right, etc."

i was watching cnn, and when mccain said obama just didn't understand, the line representing the independent voters dipped every time.

[KryosNewGroove]

obama is wrong on everything

mccain is a phony

biden is gonna show up to the debate drunk

i can't stand palin's voice or hair

[Skyline Drive]

I couldn't stop thinking about how if I could poke McCain that there would be a slight possibility that it could puncture his skin.

McCain didn't impress me, nor did his chuckling.
I want to stab him.

He didn't seem like he really wanted to be President.
It's like c'mon buddy.. this is SERIOUS.

[DoubleJ]

i think it was just the repetition of mccain saying that while obama was being slightly friendlier by constantly saying that "mccain was absolutely right, etc."

i was watching cnn, and when mccain said obama just didn't understand, the line representing the independent voters dipped every time.

I agree Teesa! Is anyone else in agreeance with me, that CNN has the best team on television?

[mipadi]

I agree Teesa! Is anyone else in agreeance with me, that CNN has the best team on television?

No. CNN is terrible.

Although maybe it's the best on television, but television sucks.

Actually, definitely not the best; al-Jazeera has a better news team.

[libertie]

I'll admit to watching election coverage on MSNBC. I enjoy it. =x

[Teesa]

No. CNN is terrible.

Although maybe it's the best on television, but television sucks.

Actually, definitely not the best; al-Jazeera has a better news team.

well, he did say on television ;)
yeah, i love watching cnn-mainly because of anderson cooper, but overall, i think they have the best team for sure.

I'll admit to watching election coverage on MSNBC. I enjoy it. =x

haha, i enjoy msnbc as well! i love chris matthews, lol.

i hope there isn't all that sexism crap. people are f**king dumb when it comes to that shit, it's more sexist to go easy on her because she's a woman than it is to really question her.

i agree, but some people will really be turned off if he is too overpowering (and with palin, who isn't?)

my thing is, even if she does an average job on the debate, people will think she's done a good job since everyone has low expectations of her anyway. and if biden does a less than average job, people will think he did a poor job because people have higher expectations of him. GR.

[fameONE]

Speaking of news, I've become a huge fan of BBC, but they don't cover our elections too well. From a foreign perspective, the American Presidential race is a circus. From the outside looking in, all the antics, the stoic insults, and the money spent campaigning supports that claim. Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, and he has yet to catch up with the times (although I respect the man a great deal), so I feel as though Obama can be the one to break this chain of foolishness.

When it came to the debate, he stood his ground, but both candidates were extremely vague. All it proved is that they disagree on so much and have a distinct professional resentment for one another. For the next debate, Obama is going to have to attack McCain, to an extent. He's going to have to call the geezer on his bullshit if he wants to get anywhere. The reason why that strategy didn't work with Clinton is because her political interest, and appeal, was a hell of a lot more widespread than McCain. Right now, it's a toss up unless someone plays the big Joker and pulls the rest of the spades.

Chances are, Biden may be that variable to change up the game and move things in Obama's favor, that is, if he doesn't have to put his foot in his mouth by saying something that could easily be twisted by the media (damn you, Fox News).