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[Simba]

Needs to step down because of mod abuse.


And if you delete this thread, you are agreeing with me.

[Simba]

Freakin' a Thomas, this is bloody censorship.


And you're an idiot, you didn't even give me a punishment when you warned me, nor should I have been warned in the first place.

[DoubleJ]

What is the boardroom?

[Simba]

gg Thomas

Now you can't do crap for 24 hours.



I'm getting you off staff for mod abuse.

[KryMeARiver]

Mod abuse? Any mod would have done the same thing, leaking backstage is against the rules.

Against the rules for mods to do.

[Simba]

This just goes to show how much you guys have to hide Backstage.

[DoubleJ]

Ahh ok! Thanks for the clarification.

[Simba]

The same was done when all members had access to backstage Arjuna.

You missed the point.


And you're freakin' warning members just 'cause we exposed you guys.

The staff is seriously f**ked up.

[Simba]

I warned you for posting images of backstage. It's against the rules. Things are discussed backstage for a reason, otherwise there wouldn't be a backstage.

Thomas, what was posted was because YOU guys were breaking the rules.

[Simba]

I was not posting images of backstage? :|

ARE YOU DAFT? Did you even read my topic?


This is radical censorship. You mods really are a bunch of nazis.

[DoubleJ]

Wait a second...how come I can't see anything backstage?

[KryMeARiver]

I warned you for posting images of backstage. It's against the rules. Things are discussed backstage for a reason, otherwise there wouldn't be a backstage.

Again, rules for the mods, not for a regular member.

[DoubleJ]

No offense, but what does that have to do with me?

[Simba]

Rules are elastic

Are you freakin' kidding me? You're telling me I'm breaking the rules and then you're saying the rules are elastic? You guys are just too dang wussy to admit you're wrong.

[Simba]

For the record, leaking Backstage info isn't even on the Community Guidelines. Technically nothing should have happened to KC or me since we're not bloody nazi mods.

Elastic referring to the concept of the Necessary and Proper "Elastic" Clause in the U.S. Constitution.

Way to be irrelevant.

[KryMeARiver]

LOL the Constitution

so you're sayin we should be able to overthrow tyrrannical leadership then?

[Simba]

There's a reason it's not in the CG's..

How many members have access to Backstage to have the capability of leaking information?

The point is, because it's not on the Community Guidelines, we shouldn't have been warned. Also, we should be able to post freely.

[DoubleJ]

Ok I guess? I will just go on the record and clear my name right now, and if anybody feels any difference, then I will gracefully step down from my mod position if asked to do so. I have nothing to hide at all.

[Simba]

*waits for Rebs*

It's game over.

[Simba]

It's 3:30 in the morning. Did you call her? I have her # if you want to call..

...

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

Am I still on mod preview? What did I do Thomas?

[Joanne]

Well, KC's not a mod, so that non-existing rule shouldn't/doesn't apply to him.

[Simba]

Well, KC's not a mod, so that non-existing rule shouldn't apply to him.

EXACTLY


This is a matter of cB's own people taking matters into their own hands.

[Simba]

So he should just have open access to Backstage Joanne?

Well why does Backstage need to be such a secret? How come you guys have so much to hide? What's wrong with letting the community know what's up?

I mean we all know you guys talk trash back there, we have PROOF.

[Joanne]

I don't know (and don't want to know) how he got access to Backstage, but he did. And he did what he felt was right - exposing what Nate had to say about the members of cB.


By the way, if Nate has such a huge problem with this forum, why doesn't he just leave? He seems disgusted by pretty much everyone here.

[iDecay]

LOL @ considering calling Rebbecca at this time..

Well, Thomas, it's not his fault for being able to see backstage..

[StealthSkill101]

The problem here is you guys mocked me and said there was nothing going on backstage. Then when I show the screenshot as proof, you delete it. Did I break the rules yes, but you are in no position to talk right now are you? You've broken rules too.

[Simba]

Might I mention that KC got access to Backstage because apparently the mods SLIPPED again?

Hint: MotM


Your guys' fault. Again.

[Joanne]

This is the internet.

[Simba]

There was no right to expose what Nate said. It was about him, he should have kept it to himself.

How about some rules about confidentiality.

You are so brainwashed. There's a difference between posting personal info, and having that leaked vs. talking trash about other members and having that leaked. This is letting the community know how corrupt the staff is.

[KryMeARiver]

Member of the month is already an established member group. All the admins had to do was put KC in that group. They didn't have to change any of the permissions.

And yet they did! Good job f**king up you guys, then blaming the members and trying to cover your ass.

[StealthSkill101]

I don't understand still, how he got access, and no other previous winner to MOTM was able to view backstage, as far as we know.

There was no right to expose what Nate said. It was about him, he should have kept it to himself.

How about some rules about confidentiality.

How about instead of talking behind a person's back you say it to their face. Which was why I asked to be revoked from member of the month because you dudes were talking behind my back and had a prob with me being MOTM. I only did this to make you guys happy. But it looks like you were more concerned about how I knew as opposed to being happy I was doing you guys a favor.

Idon't talk behind a n*gga back
I say it in his face.
I'm a thoroughbred n*gga.
I don't fake and i don't hate.

[Simba]

One thing I find interesting is that I was brought into the first topic relevant to this same "trash talk" but there is no evidential "proof" of me trash talking.

You're missing the point again. Don't think you're safe.

[Simba]

Did you fail to see why on your stroll in backstage?

Apparently not! He took screenshots mang! That's a smart muthaf**ka!

[StealthSkill101]

Did you fail to see why on your stroll in backstage?

Hahaha @ the underlining. Nah I didn't see why even though I took screenshots. Care to feel me in? [/SARCASM]

[Simba]

THOMAS DON'T DELETE MY NEW TOPIC, please.

[Simba]

Wow, nice reading comprehension skills, Thomas.

I didn't delete it, again.

I also said not to move it in-thread.

Move it back, please.

Ask Nate if it's alright with him to post those replies.

...

He better just step up.

[StealthSkill101]

Here is what it comes down to

I don't know what you are referring to, but members are not discussed Backstage. The only time that a member is brought up is when it's about hiring. So if you've seen Backstage, as you claim you have you must be mistaken.

This is what she posted as if I'm lying about this.
From what I saw this whole post is false. Nate called us Neanderthals and twats. He posts back there more than he does the forum itself. The same person saying CB needs to change has put little input into changing it. The real definition of a hypocrite right there.

[Just_Dream]

Okay, first we need permission to post other people's pictures.

NOW WE NEED PERMISSION TO QUOTE/POST OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS?!

[StealthSkill101]

Okay, first we need permission to post other people's pictures.

NOW WE NEED PERMISSION TO QUOTE/POST OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS?!

Instead of admitting fault new rules will appear to counter this.

[Just_Dream]

Got yo back, brudda.

[Simba]

Here is what it comes down to
This is what she posted as if I'm lying about this.
From what I saw this whole post is false. Nate called us Neanderthals and twats. He posts back there more than he does the forum itself. The same person saying CB needs to change has put little input into changing it. The real definition of a hypocrite right there.

Okay, first we need permission to post other people's pictures.

NOW WE NEED PERMISSION TO QUOTE/POST OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS?!

Ok, now the mods are straight up lying, talking trash about the community, and censoring the people's right to know?

Why can't you guys just admit you're screwing up?


We did what you guys could never do in your arguments: provide proof. Now we have plenty of it and you guys can't suck it up.

[StealthSkill101]

Got yo back, brudda.

Appreciate it

Go easy on em Arjuna. 1

[Simba]

Go easy on em Arjuna. 1

lol, I'm not pullin' any punches anymore. It was an honor fighting with you. *bows in the presence of greatness*


I should be headin' out too. Thomas is just taking the community 8 steps back again, and I'm done tryna smack some sense into him. Peace brotha. 1

[The-March-Hare]

It has always been the case that members who leaked backstage info, whether they were mods or not, have been punished, and the information removed from the public eye where possible. That's the precedent. Why are you surprised by this, exactly?

You remind me of me three years ago. All full of the righteous anger.

[demolished]

^
i know ... what happened to you?

[NoSex]

You all honestly thought that it was a secret that I think you're all a bunch of morons? Holy f**k, you're dumber than I thought!

This is embarrassing. In either case, regarding the open discussion and or posted pictures of my comments (and my comments alone), I have no issue whatsoever with that information being publicly available. The higher moderating team may not be happy with such disclosure, and if that happens to be true, I will have to back their decision. However, insofar as no one has any real issue with my sole information and commentary being displayed, neither do I.

In regard to the larger point being discussed here: that you're complaining about being punished for leaked information only further highlights your deliberate and impenetrable antagonism. Everyone is well and fairly aware that the backstage is a confidential zone. All that is spoken is not to be leaked to the public (this is in place so that the staff can do their job without fear of constant chastisement from the community). You know this very well (I'm sure). Either you're a brainless dolt or your trolling knows no bounds. I posit that this is not a dichotomy. My suspicion is that, at once, you are both a complete idiot and, further, determined to cause trouble for no reason other than your own shallow amusement.

[superstitious]

Wow.

*waits for Rebs*

It's game over.

LOL Like I said in your PM, I was called into work this weekend and this is the first time I'm logging on since late Friday evening.

It's 3:30 in the morning. Did you call her? I have her # if you want to call..

LOL If someone called me at that hour, there better damn well be a bigger crisis than Backstage being exposed. No offense. I know I'm old and I have no life, but at least let me sleep! lol :P

Am I still on mod preview? What did I do Thomas?

Looking into that.

^ posted backstage information.

Technically speaking, "leaking information" punishment pertains to staff members only. While I don't agree with the way things were handled, that doesn't mean people should be punished for something like leaking information in a forum that should not be vulnerable to leaks such as this in the first place.

- This was my response when lowering Arjuna's warn level. I don't know why or when people were warned for leaking Backstage information if they weren't on staff at the time. If any of the staff members disagree with me, so be it. I am sticking to my above stance.

LOL @ considering calling Rebbecca at this time..

haha. I had the same reaction.


Folks, please give me until this evening to read more on what happened so that I can give more coherent responses. I have a TON of work to do (hence being called in this weekend).

[NoSex]

I was chosen for my public-relations skills.

[Simba]

blah blah blah *hater hater hater*

nUTTin gnu i didnt' all redy no from da skreenshotz

Either you're a brainless dolt or your trolling knows know bounds.

Either you're a brainless dolt or your trolling knows no bounds.

I'ma get on this TV mama, I'ma
I'ma put shit down
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, I'm good

Have you ever popped champagne on a plane
While getting' some brain
Whipped it out, she said "I never seen snakes on a plane"

Oh, and I don't know where you got the "trolling" part from. I got a little more style than that.


Oh by the way, somebody else wanted to know if they could have permission to post your picture somewhere, Nate.

[rnicron]

How about some rules about confidentiality.

was it not you that proposed the idea of having what topic mods were viewing backstage in the subprofile where it says active in: or whatever? and then you bitched and moaned when we all shot the idea down. stfu, you hypocritical fool.

[rnicron]

no, that was not the point you were trying to make at all.

[NoSex]

nUTTin gnu i didnt' all redy no from da skreenshotz

Then what's the big deal?

Oh, and I don't know where you got the "trolling" part from. I got a little more style than that.

Not really. Even 4chan knows you're a "new f*g."

Oh by the way, somebody else wanted to know if they could have permission to post your picture somewhere, Nate.

Who, where, and why?

[Melie]

Not really. Even 4chan knows you're a "new f*g."

why are you bashing him?

[NoSex]

why are you bashing him?

You're serious?

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

You all honestly thought that it was a secret that I think you're all a bunch of morons? Holy f**k, you're dumber than I thought!

This is embarrassing. In either case, regarding the open discussion and or posted pictures of my comments (and my comments alone), I have no issue whatsoever with that information being publicly available. The higher moderating team may not be happy with such disclosure, and if that happens to be true, I will have to back their decision. However, insofar as no one has any real issue with my sole information and commentary being displayed, neither do I.

In regard to the larger point being discussed here: that you're complaining about being punished for leaked information only further highlights your deliberate and impenetrable antagonism. Everyone is well and fairly aware that the backstage is a confidential zone. All that is spoken is not to be leaked to the public (this is in place so that the staff can do their job without fear of constant chastisement from the community). You know this very well (I'm sure). Either you're a brainless dolt or your trolling knows no bounds. I posit that this is not a dichotomy. My suspicion is that, at once, you are both a complete idiot and, further, determined to cause trouble for no reason other than your own shallow amusement.

To be honest I'm quite thrilled you think that of me given the fact I didn't even know who you were up until recently. Words do not offend me, especially coming from you of all people.

Like I said I was doing this to fulfill your wishes so that you would stop bitching.

The thing is I found all of your posts about me funny. You're hilarious man. Da best dat deed it

Edit// I like your sig Melie. A Melie A Melie A Melie A Melie

[Tomates]

im not going to try to get into the middle here but ive been reading this topic for a while

From what i understand Kreios is abusing his Mod status.
I recently found this thread
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=207398&hl=

To me it does look like that kreios is abusing his Deleting skills a bit

Edit:
also came along this which is something YOU posted
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=207405&hl=

which seems like it could be a lot like the first link

This post has been edited by Tomates: Aug 11 2008, 10:04 PM

[Tomates]

^ It wasn't deleted. :|

Closed for a better adjective. Which was explained backstage to Dee when she asked, we agreed that it could be kept open as long as there wasn't a discussion of torrents, which I see is on the borderline now. Discussing torrents is against the forum rules.

2nd link (my topic)
what the hell?

Closed, fine. But it was re-opened. It wasnt something that was useless.
Your link seems to me to be a lot like the first link.
I mean its about different things obviously and im aware of that

but im saying how its kind of random.

First link is explaining about the seeding and stuff
and your explaning about some iClicker.

So they are just kind of like "show" posts where not many people could reply to if you get what im saying.

Edit: Thank you for deleting mine. Im NOT blaming you for deleting it.
Its just your deleting/closing others posts who dont want them to be deleted or closed

[*paperplane*]

^I understand and I'm not really trying to defend Thomas here, but both of those are pretty legit.

He didn't delete the first topic, just close it. It could be justified by our rule against discussing illegal things. Assumedly the things that guy was torrenting weren't entirely legal. But we talk about torrents all the time, so most of us disagreed, which is why it was reopened.

And that topic is legit. i guess it's only similar if you don't understand what weak reasoning there was for closing that?

[Tomates]

^I understand and I'm not really trying to defend Thomas here, but both of those are pretty legit.

He didn't delete the first topic, just close it. It could be justified by our rule against discussing illegal things. Assumedly the things that guy was torrenting weren't entirely legal. But we talk about torrents all the time, so most of us disagreed, which is why it was reopened.

And that topic is legit. i guess it's only similar if you don't understand what weak reasoning there was for closing that?

I know they are legit topics, im not saying their not.
But it seems like thomas closed the first topic for it NOT being legit when his topic seemed to be like the same.
And of course torrenting isnt completly legal but everyone gets songs illegally nowadays

[*paperplane*]

And I'm arguing him that privately, but he didn't delete the topic. There was no abuse involved. His judgment was not the greatest, but the situation was easily rectified. Technically speaking, what he did was no worse than the topic itself.

[Tomates]

And I'm arguing him that privately, but he didn't delete the topic. There was no abuse involved. His judgment was not the greatest, but the situation was easily rectified. Technically speaking, what he did was no worse than the topic itself.

ok well i shouldnt have said delete. I Meant to say closed. Though you would think after all of this he would be more careful on what he closes or not.
My problem is that he seems to be making alot of the topics that he is closing for others.

Like Nicki said, it's been dealt with, reopened, and my justification for closing it was a little askew. My apologies. I was wrong. :)

This is going to get Juna + others riled up. You know that right?

[*paperplane*]

Yeah, he should be. And I'm not trying to argue with you, btw, I'm just trying to prevent further argumentation. His topics really have nothing to do with that he closed; that was simply a discrepancy involving a circumvention rule.

[karmakiller]

My problem is that he seems to be making alot of the topics that he is closing for others.

I don't quite understand what you mean by that.

The other topic that was closed really wasn't a big deal. I happened to click on it right after it was closed. I told Thomas that it technically wasn't dicussing torrent software, so that we should leave it open and see where it goes. You requested your topic to be deleted, and that was handled.

There's no mod abuse going on, just stopping something before it happened.

[Tomates]

Honestly though, I think you missed the point of my iClicker topic

i didnt miss the point, you were just sharing something about your iClicker and getting others opinions.
And the first Post was sharing about her mmorpg or whatever

Yeah, he should be. And I'm not trying to argue with you, btw, I'm just trying to prevent further argumentation. His topics really have nothing to do with that he closed; that was simply a discrepancy involving a circumvention rule

I dont want you to think im arguing with you either. I have absolutly no problems with you. This is just a mere discussion of our different ideas on this subject.

I don't quite understand what you mean by that.

The other topic that was closed really wasn't a big deal. I happened to click on it right after it was closed. I told Thomas that it technically wasn't dicussing torrent software, so that we should leave it open and see where it goes. You requested your topic to be deleted, and that was handled.

There's no mod abuse going on, just stopping something before it happened.

but some people might chime in about it being mod abuse.
Also im Aware that i requested it. I have no problem with that at all and this isnt a discussion about my post being deleted.
Im just saying that it seems like he is deleting/closing other peoples posts that didnt ask for that to happen

This post has been edited by Tomates: Aug 11 2008, 10:28 PM

[Melie]

You're serious?

uh...yeah

or do you NOT consider that bashing?

[*paperplane*]

Yep, I was just trying to be clear because lately every little thing has become a huge deal

[Tomates]

Oh, I didn't post enough in my OP then, I don't even know what an iClicker is, I was asking if other people knew what it was, and what it was used for. To me, it's a plastic piece of hardware with 5/6 keys on it.

ok but i thought the first post was just as legit as yours but you closed it until someone disagreed and re-opened it

Yep, I was just trying to be clear because lately every little thing has become a huge deal

yeah it has been a bit huge. im probably not makin things better but i wanted to put what ive seen an observed

This post has been edited by Tomates: Aug 11 2008, 10:41 PM

[Joanne]

I don't see how this Thomas closing the torrent thread thing connects to mod abuse? He misread something and acted on it. Dee already corrected him. Problem solved. Move on.

[brooklyneast05]

I don't see how this Thomas closing the torrent thread thing connects to mod abuse? He misread something and acted on it. Dee already corrected him. Problem solved. Move on.

[Tomates]

ok. rightr now this isnt much as a big deal to me or affecting me as much as its bothering juna.
i guess you can say im on juna's side on this and kc's
and what i found is somehing that would probably interest them

[karmakiller]

I don't see how this Thomas closing the torrent thread thing connects to mod abuse? He misread something and acted on it. Dee already corrected him. Problem solved. Move on.

No need to keep dragging things on.

[Tomates]

Guess we shall wait till Juna and KC return to this subject then and see about what they have to say about this.

I already sent some things to juna to see his opinion on it

[Joanne]

Are you looking for approval or something?

Yes, Juna and KC said Thomas was abusing his mod powers, but it is not at all connected to what you brought up. They meant topics Thomas read correctly and understood, not one he misunderstood.

[Tomates]

Are you looking for approval or something?

Yes, Juna and KC said Thomas was abusing his mod powers, but it is not at all connected to what you brought up. They meant topics Thomas read correctly and understood, not one he misunderstood.

Im not looking for approval at all.
And i think it Does relate a bit to what ive mentioned.

Anyways im heading out for the night.
I will check up on this forum tomorrow

[DoubleJ]

ok. rightr now this isnt much as a big deal to me or affecting me as much as its bothering juna.
i guess you can say im on juna's side on this and kc's
and what i found is somehing that would probably interest them

Guess we shall wait till Juna and KC return to this subject then and see about what they have to say about this.

I already sent some things to juna to see his opinion on it

Now see this is why you are about to get it. Stop trying to assert yourself as being popular or in. Clearly, as JoJo pointed out, he misunderstood a few things. Let it go already. Also, stop implying people, when you don't know the full scale of things going on.

[Just_Dream]

Plus, Thomas admitted that he was wrong, so this shouldn't really be a big deal anyway.

MMM TORRENTS <3

[Tomates]

Now see this is why you are about to get it. Stop trying to assert yourself as being popular or in. Clearly, as JoJo pointed out, he misunderstood a few things. Let it go already. Also, stop implying people, when you don't know the full scale of things going on.

Trust me im not trying to get popularity over this.
I mean whatever i guess since im still "somewhat new" its more likely for people to jump at me and trying to prove me wrong.

[DoubleJ]

Trust me im not trying to get popularity over this.
I mean whatever i guess since im still "somewhat new" its more likely for people to jump at me and trying to prove me wrong.

You being new has nothing to do with it. It is the fact that you implied people when you shouldn't have, that is grinding peoples gears.

[Tomates]

You being new has nothing to do with it. It is the fact that you implied people when you shouldn't have, that is grinding peoples gears.

Im sorry. i will stop.

[gojira]

i luv u juna

[Simba]

Did this just grow another page or somethin'? I'm tired at the moment, I'll read it a little later.




i la you sandshrew

[demolished]

Yep, I was just trying to be clear because lately every little thing has become a huge deal

It's called chain reactions that build upon too many little heat.
idk.