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post Aug 8 2008, 01:13 AM
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First of all, you just made me break the number one rule of cB World Language Day. Shame on you guys.

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That is I do not care. We are after a ENGLISH website. I do everything in English, so you have to do it. Thank you.
That was a PM I got from Dee. It was originally in German, but that's the rough English translation.

Ok, since when was it against the rules to use foreign languages? I don't even see it on the Community Guidelines or Terms of Service.

I was warned, allegedly for "spamming in The Lounge." Do you guys honestly think I'm low enough to just randomly spam in The Lounge? Everything was closed and deleted before everything could be explained. Did you guys already forget the rule on deletion we JUST MADE YESTERDAY? ARE YOU DAFT?

If you would've actually read my topics, they were completely legit. My first one, which you mods should've read before you even thought about closing anything, was an explanation of cB World Language Day. My second was about heritage, which even had legit responses (I remember Joanne's specifically), but was deleted anyway.

You guys, this is disappointing. Especially since we just went over this.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:16 AM
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Haha, you need to translate at a different place. You PMed me in German, so I replied in German.

I warned you because you made multiple topics.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:17 AM
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What's wrong with making multiple topics if they're all legit? I've made a lot more consecutively in English.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:23 AM
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Hmm, yeah I don't see the problem here. I agree with funky Juna.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:25 AM
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What's taking you guys so long to respond? Do you guys always have to discuss things Backstage before doing anything?

I want to know every single mod that just handled cB World Language Day, and what exactly they did.






cB doesn't care about world culture.

QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 01:25 AM) *
It was part of forum rules, that were deleted some time ago. This was brought up before, i could find it for you, but laziness has kicked in. but foriegn languages are not, nor ever been allowed here.
If it was deleted, then how the hell would I have known it wasn't allowed? wtf kind of logic is that

And actually, foreign languages have been allowed before. Refer to the "culture" clubs like the Chinese club and stuff. Tina and I tried looking for it, but to no avail. I guess it got lost when Suzzette deleted everything.
 
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^x2 I'm with Juna on that one.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:31 AM
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If it was one thread, I would've been ok with it. I deleted 16 topics.
 
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Ok, I can't vouch for other people's topics, but I can guarantee you that my topics were legit. Since when was making multiple topics that are NOT spam, in turn contributing to cB, against the rules? You guys have still failed to answer this.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:36 AM
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Because Createblog is an English website?
 
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QUOTE(karmakiller @ Aug 8 2008, 01:36 AM) *
Because Createblog is an English website?
That's it?


Since when does cB being a English website mean you must strictly use ENGLISH ONLY? That's awfully nazi-like.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:39 AM
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If that's the case, then everybody should have to use proper English no?
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:43 AM
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LOL, so this is why Prince was banned, EH?
 
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What about Chinglish or Engrish?


Look, the point is, you can't just have a ban on foreign languages like that. And you especially can't go around warning and deleting topics by members who weren't even aware that English is the only language they could use because the rule's not even written down anywhere.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:54 AM
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That's why we have this:

http://translate.google.com/translate_t shrug.gif
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 01:51 AM) *
I don't think the problem was that you were warned for making foriegn language topics, its that you were spamming which is clearly written in your log anyway.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the person who wrote "spamming" in my log made a mistake? The warn logs are not flawless, you know, nor are they very detailed. It's hard to go on something that just says "Spamming in The Lounge."

Just because it was written in my log doesn't mean it's fact.

QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 01:51 AM) *
The problem with a foriegn langage topic, or post is how are other people supposed to understand really? How many registered users do you think speak arabic? maybe 1% not even.. so why make a topic saying something in arabic. sounds pointless, and spammy, which is against the community guidelines.
You are so cruel to the minorities.




Favor: Can you guys please recover my topic on heritage? It's the one with the French title. Something along the lines of "Embrace Your Inner Fob!"
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 02:06 AM
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members who weren't even aware that English is the only language they could use
You guys have been here for a long time. Look around at all the other topics, they are in English.

I already said that if you guys hadn't made 16 topics that I wouldn't have had a problem. If you wanted to make posts in different languages, then do it in one thread. Don't cover the Lounge in other languages.
 
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Juna poses a legit argument. I like to ask why this topic of mine wasn't close as well?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=206234&hl=

It was in Vietnamese. _unsure.gif
 
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QUOTE(karmakiller @ Aug 8 2008, 02:06 AM) *
You guys have been here for a long time. Look around at all the other topics, they are in English.

I already said that if you guys hadn't made 16 topics that I wouldn't have had a problem. If you wanted to make posts in different languages, then do it in one thread. Don't cover the Lounge in other languages.
I've been around here for 2 years and haven't seen any rules that say we must use English. How do I assume that I can only speak in English by observing that? Also, for the record, foreign languages have been used before, I've already said that.

About the multiple topics: I already asked what's wrong with making several legit topics several times.



QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:05 AM) *
I move we keep this "culturally aware movement" to one single topic, i.e. this one.
I'm replying here, because I don't want to ruin my foreign language streak out there.

No thank you. You know how messy it's gonna me if we have all of our topics contained in one topic? Everyone's going to get confused.




You guys keep going in circles. It's kinda like this picture:


Just doesn't make sense.


QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:12 AM) *
However, English is still the only language allowed.
Statements like this just make me cringe. *cringe*
 
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 12:12 AM) *
However, English is still the only language allowed.

I'm being frank and nice with you, and supporting both sides of this debatacle. However, I hoped you did not pull that rule out of your sweet firm juicy ass, because I would like to see a quote of Terms of Service on this. XD.gif
 
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http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=207185

Did you guys even read my topic that I actually took the time to translate single handedly into English for you?

You guys are killing the whole spirit of the event by containing it like this. It's meant to be a cB wide celebration.
 
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Ok mods, I just added a new rule for cB World Language Day since it seems y'all still have your panties in a bunch and all.
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- You must put the language you're speaking in at the end of your post. So the mods don't get too ticked off and all.
Having to do anything like this shouldn't be necessary at all, but I know how you mods work.


By the way, as relevant or irrelevant as it may be, Javonn made the interesting observation that it's only been Caucasians that reject the idea of cB World Language Day. Huh?





Before anyone says anything, this isn't a double post because it was made a nice time after the latest post.
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 02:56 AM
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english is the only language allowed? where is that stated?

你們極為愚蠢和可怕地殘忍。

does this mean i should be banned now?
 
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Im pretty disappointed that the mads keep saying that english is the only language allowed. people use korean and japanese on the official kpop and jpop club and I dont think Jusun [admin] would mind other languages given the fact that he is of more than one culture. I think there shouldnt be any warning for using different languages afterall has anyone complained about people using other languages?. Its a matter of respect that I think all Cbers understand, I mean America dosent only speak english , we're diverse like cb and you cannot tell people to not come to this site because of the language they prefer Im pretty dissapointed at many of the quotes from the mods. what happened to cb is a democracy?
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 05:53 AM
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RACIST MODS

karmakiller you sack of shit, why do you send me a PM but have me blocked from responses?

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You made multiple foreign language topics in the Lounge, so I have no choice but to warn you.


No choice but to warn me eh? What the f**k is wrong with you? You don't have free will/judgment skills? When you see a foreign language, are you overcome by the urge to warn people, just like when you see a penis, you are overcome by the urge to place it in your mouth and start sucking on it like the whore you are?

 
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post Aug 8 2008, 08:35 AM
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^^ huh.gif you went to far.. lol

omfg...
this is for only one DAY...
let us have some fun
HELP THE COMMUNITY tongue.gif
 
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post Aug 8 2008, 08:39 AM
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wtf at english is the only language accepted?
 
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Im pretty disappointed that the mads keep saying that english is the only language allowed. people use korean and japanese on the official kpop and jpop club and I dont think Jusun [admin] would mind other languages given the fact that he is of more than one culture. I think there shouldnt be any warning for using different languages afterall has anyone complained about people using other languages?. Its a matter of respect that I think all Cbers understand, I mean America dosent only speak english , we're diverse like cb and you cannot tell people to not come to this site because of the language they prefer Im pretty dissapointed at many of the quotes from the mods. what happened to cb is a democracy?

cB isn't a democracy?

Did most of you objecting Dee's actions actually see all the topics in the lounge last night? All the topics in Asian characters were truly obnoxious looking (no racial implications, thank you); when it was one it was fine, when there were two it was ok, when there were 15 that was more of an issue. And truthfully it would look like spam and only serve to isolate most of the community, because we have no real way of communicating in those topics even if we want to. You all know perfectly well that online translators really don't work very well. Removing those topics was not about asserting English's superiority over other languages, or anything like that, it just was actually what made the most sense at the time.

ps cB World Language Day was not created until after most of those topics were created
 
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Before Suz deleted the forums, there was a topic in the Lounge for forum rules. It did state to not use any other languages or other language characters on the forums. But considering those are gone and I've seen people write in other languages I figured it wasn't that big of a deal anymore.

In all honestly, I just don't see it being done enough to completely exclude it from the forums. Perhaps we need some place where people can write what they want in other languages. I don't think there should be topics upon topics made in other languages, because then we could be separating the community more, which I don't think is needed. Perhaps we can use AC's idea of having a day where people can post openly in another language.

If anything, I believe almost all of you are OM's which means you can do almost whatever you want in the VIP lounge, so why not just do it in there?

 
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Maybe we should do what Tung suggested in a former post which is to make a Forum based on other languages.
There-fore it can be a win-win situation?
Juna can get the languages into CB
and the mods wont have to worry about it being spammed in the lounge?
 
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I was thinking of a Sub-forum, but I think it would be to much for something like this. The only way I could see doing anything like it is to have a Culture sub forum or something along those lines and people can talk in other languages or talk about other cultures and what appeals to them about it.
 
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Like a "Cultural Diversity" sub-forum in Lifestyles?
 
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QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 11:55 AM) *
Like a "Cultural Diversity" sub-forum in Lifestyles?

Yeah
 
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Yea something like that XD
 
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Or maybe posting in other languages can actually be an incentive for getting to post in the VIP lounge? It doesn't really seem like there's any real point to making new forums when there's potentially comparable forums already going more or less unused.
 
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Aug 8 2008, 11:59 AM) *
Or maybe posting in other languages can actually be an incentive for getting to post in the VIP lounge? It doesn't really seem like there's any real point to making new forums when there's potentially comparable forums already going more or less unused.

if your saying that we can post them in the VIP lounge, then that wouldnt make much sense
not everyone is VIP obviously and what if the Non-VIP members want to post in other languages?

Im for a Cultural Diversity Forum
 
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Well then maybe it would give everyone more incentive to work their little fingers to the bones to make great posts to become a Official Member :D
 
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QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Aug 8 2008, 12:04 PM) *
Well then maybe it would give everyone more incentive to work their little fingers to the bones to make great posts to become a Official Member :D

Ive been working my bones and im only at 700 something XD
 
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lols, good job though! 249 more to go!

To be honest though, most of the people that are doing these types of things are OM's, so if we could move on from this thing without doing any changes then I would say for everyone to post their other language posts in the VIP lounge.
 
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QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Aug 8 2008, 12:06 PM) *
lols, good job though! 249 more to go!

To be honest though, most of the people that are doing these types of things are OM's, so if we could move on from this thing without doing any changes then I would say for everyone to post their other language posts in the VIP lounge.

But that could get kind of messy and a lot of people might not like it.
Therefore if its a new section in Lifestyles then people can have the choice to ignore it or not
 
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QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Aug 8 2008, 11:53 AM) *
I was thinking of a Sub-forum, but I think it would be to much for something like this. The only way I could see doing anything like it is to have a Culture sub forum or something along those lines and people can talk in other languages or talk about other cultures and what appeals to them about it.
I know I'm coming out of nowhere with this, but I happent o like this idea very much opposed to sending all the foreign langauage threads to the VIP lounge because it will become more of a clutter. blink.gif As Tomates said, its a win win situation. Don't like it, don't have to go into the sub forum.
 
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Let's think about this realistically. Is this foreign language trend really going to last long enough to justify its own forum? Subforums notably attract many fewer posters than other forums do, so chances are the appeal of a subforum geared towards typing in foreign languages won't outlast its novelty. Whereas being able to post other languages in the VIP lounge should serve as incentive to keep posting, which of course we want you to do. Make new topics, stimulate conversations in other topics, and if you actually have something to contribute you are welcome to bump older topics as well (hard to believe, but there was a time when people would make >200 posts a day). As it is, the VIP lounge has become something of a joke, so really just posting in other languages in there sounds like a much better idea. We just went through a whole ordeal concerning forum reorganization, so I doubt Jusun (lol) would appreciate adding another underused subforum.

When I studied for my Italian final by posting in Italian, I kept most of it to the VIP lounge and it was not an issue. Some people participated too. If foreign languages are too much clutter for the VIP lounge, which is rarely used anymore, it makes no sense to just put it somewhere else.
 
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Thats makes a good point. _unsure.gif *looks at the Sports forum* Being that I barely go into the VIP lounge, [/guilty], I guess it wouldn't hurt putting it in there. Language didn't seem like a problem on cB until now, anyway. *shrug*
 
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Nicki makes a good point in that a trend doesn't merit a subforum.

However, if people ARE desperate to post in whatever languages, whether they want to practice, or just have a change, I would point them to the Official [language] Threads which are still in the School forum. Chat there, and leave the rest of the forum in Egnlish.
 
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But obviously no one really knows about the Language stuff in the school section.
Therefore if theres a sub-forum that more people could potentially know about then it will settle more controversies?
 
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We can't just add a subforum as a solution to every fad.
 
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I like that idea, James.

It isn't very often that people post topics in other languages.

Before I left for work this morning, I just ended up repeating myself. There were mass topics. And, Arjuna, you said that this was making CB more culturally aware? I don't really know how using translators with shitty grammar (e.g. the OP) expands the culture here, but whatever. I'm glad it's in one topic, what I asked for since the beginning.
 
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Like i mentioned before
If theres a Sub Profile

The people who dont want to see the language cam just ignore it
The people who do can just mingle their way on it.

The only problem for putting it under school is people may still see it who dont really want to.
Then there will be a huge bitching again for spam, banning it, and then this all over again.
and i doubt we want to do this again
 
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QUOTE(rockguy @ Aug 8 2008, 08:35 AM) *
^^ huh.gif you went to far.. lol

omfg...
this is for only one DAY...
let us have some fun
HELP THE COMMUNITY tongue.gif
This guy seems to be the only one with some sense around here. The rest of you keep going in circles again again again again again again.


Guys, just swallow this for one day first.
We can talk about the technical stuff later, it's ruining the spirit of cB World Language Day.







In case anyone wanted a sneak peek, I'm against having a new subforum for foreign languages.

And lol @ the official language threads being moved to School. No wonder I don't see them anymore.
 
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^ I was just trying to help you out because i thought it was something YOU wanted.

If its not then just forget everything ive said.
 
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Aug 8 2008, 12:36 PM) *
^ I was just trying to help you out because i thought it was something YOU wanted.

If its not then just forget everything ive said.
Ha ha, hey, I appreciate the thought, but what about what YOU want? cB World Language Day is for the people, not just me.

Maybe if enough people want it though.





QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Aug 8 2008, 05:23 AM) *
C'est troppp génial! Enfin je peux parler dans ma langue. Weeehooo! Bref, je suis francophone de base donc si vous voulez apprendre cette langue, faites moi signe. xD Bonne journée ŕ toutes et ŕ tous!

French!
Roughly:
"It's too cool! Finally I can speak in my language. Weeehooo! In short, I am French base so if you want to learn the language, made me sign. xD Good day to all!"


How can you mods deny us members such happiness? sad.gif
 
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well what i meant you wanted i thought you wanted a subforum of it
 
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QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Aug 8 2008, 06:34 PM) *
And lol @ the official language threads being moved to School. No wonder I don't see them anymore.

I might actually be wrong about that, in fairness. That's just where I think they are.
 
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Oh, well in any case, shame they're gone with the wind now. sad.gif
 
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Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. By gone with the wind, I meant that they aren't active anymore.
 
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Then activate them. I don't exaclt y understand why this is even an issue.
 
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- You must put the language you're speaking in at the end of your post. So the mods don't get too ticked off and all.
By the way mods, I don't know how many of you noticed, but I already took a nice "compromise" by adding in that rule. It's like a freakin' yellow star. Anyway, if you can't understand a language, just look at the bottom of each post and hit it up on a translator. Even if it's rough, you should be able to get an idea.



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Then activate them. I don't exaclt y understand why this is even an issue.
lol man, it's really not. I was just saying, it's a shame that I haven't seen them recently, being active on their own. I can't be responsible for all of the activity on cB all the time, now can I. aniwink.gif
 
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Yes, because that really is how I like to spend my time.

If the topics can't even survive on their own, there is really no need for a foreign language subforum, or a day, etc etc
 
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Hey, just sayin', in case you guys want to know what's being said. I mean if you don't want to bother, more p-p-p-power to ya. But just 'cause you don't want to bother is no excuse for why we can't post in foreign languages.




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If the topics can't even survive on their own, there is really no need for a foreign language subforum, or a day, etc etc
Deal. The topics seem to be holding their own at the moment though. But yes, just let them naturally fall down the page if cB wills it.
 
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Give it two days and you're not going to want to bother either.

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I guess that's why I made cB World Language Day only one day, lol.
 
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Nothing's relevent to cb world language day is being discussed backstage?
QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 01:19 PM) *
Well the solutions to the posting in foreign languages has been posted backstage

Here we have:
- A foreign language subfourm (which really isn't that applicable)
- A foreign language topic
- One day where people can post in foreign languages (August 8th)

So, do you have anything helpful to add to this?
lol, told you so

First, let's go on with cB World Language Day. Then we can talk about what to do with foreign languages for the rest of the year afterwards.
 
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Foreign Language Day is stupid and therefore if we must have it, I thoroughly object to having it be on my birthday.

Also, it makes very little sense to have it be one day, as then we'd have to go through and close all those topics or else they could just continue on afterward.
 
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You realize that there are 12 hours between the two posts you quoted, right? He was right at the time, stop trying to be smug.
 
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Foreign Language Day is stupid and therefore if we must have it, I thoroughly object to having it be on my birthday.

Also, it makes very little sense to have it be one day, as then we'd have to go through and close all those topics or else they could just continue on afterward.
Ha ha, I honestly didn't know it was going to end up on your birthday. And BOO at you calling Foreign Language Day stupid! >:O

Part of the purpose of Foreign Language Day is to spark interest in foreign languages and other cultures. If you've been reading my topics (but I guess you haven't since y'all are too lazy to use translators) a lot of them are about foreign culture or cool things I found from foreign places. cB World Language Day is also a challenge to not use English for a whole day (and good job you guys, you made me break my own rule). I personally won't be posting in as much foreign languages after cB World Language Day. More power to the people who want to keep posting in foreign languages, though. 'Cause I still don't see a rule saying they can't.

Oh, and don't even think about closing the topics, because as far as my topics go, they're all legit.

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You realize that there are 12 hours between the two posts you quoted, right? He was right at the time, stop trying to be smug.
I was just jokin' around man, I know that. I really hate having to pull the Batman quote again, but...

WHY SO SERIOUS?
 
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Wow. Come on guys. Can we at least be civil?

Arjuna, you can have the day. Tomorrow the threads will be closed, moved to their respective "clubs" or merged into one Celebratory Thread. If any staff member disagrees with this, please respond.

A lot of this could have been avoided if it was communicated beforehand. I don't see why everything has to be such a heated debate. I think just about EVERYONE needs to take a friggin chill pill.

Come on! Olympics have started. Let's all try to be friendly! (Ok, I know that's over the top... but yay friendly? sad.gif ) lol
 
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QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 11:55 AM) *
Wow. Come on guys. Can we at least be civil?

Arjuna, you can have the day. Tomorrow the threads will be closed, moved to their respective "clubs" or merged into one Celebratory Thread. If any staff member disagrees with this, please respond.

A lot of this could have been avoided if it was communicated beforehand. I don't see why everything has to be such a heated debate. I think just about EVERYONE needs to take a friggin chill pill.

Come on! Olympics have started. Let's all try to be friendly! (Ok, I know that's over the top... but yay friendly? sad.gif ) lol


I think I know who got laid last night. whistling.gif

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I am all for the language subforum!
 
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Arjuna, you can have the day.
You know, I got really excited when you said this, until you said this...
QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 01:55 PM) *
Tomorrow the threads will be closed, moved to their respective "clubs" or merged into one Celebratory Thread.
Why? They're legit topics, and there's still no rule to be seen against foreign languages.

QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 01:55 PM) *
A lot of this could have been avoided if it was communicated beforehand.
Now that I'm off the staff team, I shouldn't have to wait for all the mods' approval before I can act and go ahead and initiate a celebration.




QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 01:55 PM) *
Come on! Olympics have started. Let's all try to be friendly! (Ok, I know that's over the top... but yay friendly? :( ) lol
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING FOR


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Why? They're legit topics, and there's still no rule to be seen against foreign languages.

Maybe they can still be open, but everyone has to post in English then? =\
 
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lol I'm willing to compromise but you're going to have to compromise with me.

There was a rule about posting in English predominately, but that went away when your dear friend Suzzette jackhammered the forums. I honestly don't remember exactly what it said.
 
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Maybe they can still be open, but everyone has to post in English then? =\
But we shouldn't have to speak in English if we don't want to. sad.gif



QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 02:04 PM) *
lol I'm willing to compromise but you're going to have to compromise with me.

There was a rule about posting in English predominately, but that went away when your dear friend Suzzette jackhammered the forums. I honestly don't remember exactly what it said.
lol, the thing is, I shouldn't have to compromise, because there was no rule on foreign languages to speak of at the time, deleted or not.

Plus, I already compromised somewhat by telling everyone to write the language they're typing in at the bottom of their posts so you guys can translate if you want.
 
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I feel that I should point out that you didn't even start the posting in other languages, Sally did.

How about all topics must be started in English?
 
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You're being really stubborn, Arjuna. I am trying so hard to compromise and you're not even trying. :(
 
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I feel that I should point out that you didn't even start the posting in other languages, Sally did.
Yeah, that's true. Actually the idea started in cBC, everyone just started before I could finish the declaration post (which ended up being deleted anyway).


QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 02:07 PM) *
You're being really stubborn, Arjuna. I am trying so hard to compromise and you're not even trying. :(
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Aug 8 2008, 02:05 PM) *
Plus, I already compromised somewhat by telling everyone to write the language they're typing in at the bottom of their posts so you guys can translate if you want.
AND, I shouldn't even have to compromise!





There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
 
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http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=206968

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=206300

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=205619&hl=

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=206234&hl=

and oh, happy birthday nicki!!! hug.gif
 
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This post should be PINNED for truth.
 
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You understand that only one of the topics were actually IN a foreign language, right?

And even that appears to be an advertisement, which is now being closed.
 
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Why can't we post though? I don't get it, especially for those of us that aren't white.
 
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QUOTE(Tungster @ Aug 8 2008, 03:13 PM) *

thank you!! biggrin.gif

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But what is wrong with starting a topic?
 
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM) *
thank you!! biggrin.gif

Really, Javon, what the hell does not being white have to do with anything?

Really Nicki, spell my name right. K Thanks! Smooches!
 
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QUOTE(The-March-Hare @ Aug 8 2008, 02:16 PM) *
You understand that only one of the topics were actually IN a foreign language, right?

And even that appears to be an advertisement, which is now being closed.
The point is, foreign language was used in the past (and quite liberally in those topics), and I didn't see them being scolded by any mods in them

QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:17 PM) *
You registered the same time that I did, previously with my other account. You were a moderator, then a mentor for a long enough time to know that there are rules about posting in foreign languages. And even if you didn't become active on the forums till later, as a former mod, you should be aware of the rules this site has.
Thomas, I honestly looked took the time to look through the Community Guidelines and the Terms of Service for a rule on foreign languages.
QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Aug 8 2008, 02:09 PM) *
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.
There is no foreign language rule.


QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:17 PM) *
How hard is it to understand that we can't have a numerous amount of foreign language posts about the forum's pages?
You fail to explain why not. Why are you so culturally closed minded?
 
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:27 PM) *
But I don't really see the point in lying to yourself when you use a translator, because I haven't met more than one person in my life that can speak 3 langauges, and she wasn't even fluent in all three. So why do you feel it's necessary to use a translator and then repost something, even the people that can read the langauge know some of these posts don't make that much sense.
The point of cB World Language Day is not necessarily to have knowledge on how to speak any given languages, but to raise cultural awareness throughout cB. To remind you guys that English isn't the only language, and America isn't the only culture. Believe it or not, sometimes diversity is taken for granted.

For cB World Language Day, speaking in different languages isn't to say "hey, look at how many different languages I can speak," but to be able to look different countries in the eye and say, "I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOUR CULTURE! OORAH!"

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now that i think about it
I still think a Language subforum would be kind of Snazzy
Who cares if you have to use a translator
 
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:33 PM) *
Look, everyone has already stated that there WAS a Foreign language rule. It was deleted when Suzzette deleted the topic. Easy enough to understand now? You probably read the rule at one time? How easily forgotten, huh?
REAL EYES REALIZE REAL LIES. You think I'm gonna believe everything you mods SAY? Just because all the mods might say "there was once a rule that no Jews, Asians, Blacks, homosexuals, or gypsies are allowed on cB," would you believe them, let alone follow their rule?
 
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 03:37 PM) *
Tomates:

It kind of ruins the type of genuine appeal the language has, when someone just uses a translator to pop out what they want to say to someone in a foreign language.

hmm. Guess you have a good point there.
but still, it would be fun seeing everything

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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:37 PM) *
Tomates:

It kind of ruins the type of genuine appeal the language has, when someone just uses a translator to pop out what they want to say to someone in a foreign language.
Did you even read my post above that?



QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:41 PM) *
Wow, stubborn much? If we could retrieve the rule, that would have been done this morning.
So you're saying you guys can't retrieve it? I guess it doesn't exist then.
 
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But it wasn't, and I honestly don't see what's wrong with giving the people what they want. It would add a little something extra to this boring site. Please for the love of god...anything to keep the members interested....I am all for it.
 
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You know what, I'm getting tired of this, I shouldn't have to argue for culture like this.


You mods blew this WAY out of proportion, and took the fun away from cB World Language Day. All I did was start ONE day of cultural awareness. Now it's become some huge debate with mods that run in circles trying to find a rule that doesn't exist.




FORGET YOU GUYS, ON WITH CB WORLD LANGUAGE DAY!
 
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Also, i think if the mods let us non-mods put our input on ideas then it will make CB a more enjoyable place.
Thats just my opinion though.
 
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 12:45 PM) *
How about you retrieve something that was lost in Suzzette's deletion. Go find the "Post here if you're going to be absent" topic Frankie made back in 2005. Go ahead, do it. You know it existed, you probably made a post in there, so.. do it. :)

Javonn wasn't on cB back in 2005. mellow.gif
 
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Javonn, you're a moderator for a reason, please don't call this site boring, and say that you'd do anything to make it better.

First off, nobody has to tell me that I am a mod, because I already know that. Secondly, it is called a feedback topic for a reason, and if I want to, I will leave whatever type of opinion that I want. Thirdly, I will try and do everything in my power to make this site more enjoyable. I am tired of people walking around here with the same blind f**king eye, and trying to be pretentious and full of themselves. This site is indeed boring, and moderator or not, I will say that because that is how I feel. Since when does being a mod, mean that you have to be censored in your opinions?

My point is that something like this is sparking some interest among members, whether it be minimal or huge. Just because a certain few don't like it, doesn't mean that we should outright it. The same f**king topics are going to be made in English regardless, so what is the point? If you don't want to translate it, then don't...I'll f**king do it. As if some of you people are around here enough to know what is going on anyway.
 
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QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:45 PM) *
Javonn, you're a moderator for a reason, please don't call this site boring, and say that you'd do anything to make it better.
Javonn shouldn't have to lie to himself and say cB is super special fun and awesome right now, 'cause it's not. cB's not all that at the moment. Javonn just realizes the truth, but is actually working hard towards improving cB and its activity. In fact, from what I can tell, he's done a lot more in that direction than you have.

QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 02:45 PM) *
How about you retrieve something that was lost in Suzzette's deletion. Go find the "Post here if you're going to be absent" topic Frankie made back in 2005. Go ahead, do it. You know it existed, you probably made a post in there, so.. do it. :)
You know how ridiculous you sound right now?

QUOTE(Tomates @ Aug 8 2008, 02:45 PM) *
Also, i think if the mods let us non-mods put our input on ideas then it will make CB a more enjoyable place.
Thats just my opinion though.
lmao, you know how bad that just made you mods look? Goes to show the mod/member relations these days.
 
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So you're saying you guys can't retrieve it? I guess it doesn't exist then.

Actually that isn't true at all. Posts made BY Suzzette were unable to be retrieved. This isn't the first time we've tried to find something and were unable to do so after the forum mutilation. We can't find it, so we can't reference it so for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist at this point in time.

Having said that, can we all attempt to move forward a little? I think this has just become painful. lol

Let's all take a step back and try to work together. If posting in a foreign language is something the community truly wants, let's just think about it for a second. You are proposing that the use of foreign languages be allowed. Ok. I'm all for diversity and I'm certainly going to consider something that has been brought up by the community, especially if there seems to be legitimate interest. How about this, if you post in a foreign language, that is fine, but you must translate your post? (this is for indefinite purposes, not just today)
 
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Having said that, can we all attempt to move forward a little? I think this has just become painful. lol
That's exactly what I tried sayin'.
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You know what, I'm getting tired of this, I shouldn't have to argue for culture like this.
You mods blew this WAY out of proportion, and took the fun away from cB World Language Day. All I did was start ONE day of cultural awareness. Now it's become some huge debate with mods that run in circles trying to find a rule that doesn't exist.


FORGET YOU GUYS, ON WITH CB WORLD LANGUAGE DAY!



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How about this, if you post in a foreign language, that is fine, but you must translate your post? (this is for indefinite purposes, not just today)
Sorry, no, really. I already said that I shouldn't have to compromise.



Why can't you mods just admit you're wrong for once?
 
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Because I'm not wrong. lol I didn't remove anything, I didn't close anything and I remember there being a rule that cannot be found right now. I have been trying to come up with ways to make everyone happy in this, not just mods.

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Maybe we can limit foreign languages without translation to those ethnic clubs, since it doesn't seem to be much of a problem there. Then everything outside would have to be translated.


I actually got the idea from you. ;)
 
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Because I'm not wrong. lol I didn't remove anything, I didn't close anything and I remember there being a rule that cannot be found right now.
You guys are distracting me. In the time that I've been arguing with you guys, I could've been out there spreading glorious cultural awareness. >:(

QUOTE(superstitious @ Aug 8 2008, 03:06 PM) *
I actually got the idea from you. ;)
I changed my mind. victory.gif

QUOTE(kreios @ Aug 8 2008, 03:06 PM) *
What exactly is it that we're wrong about? The topic's existence? You're wrong about that.
wtf are you talkin about
 

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