steroids Options

[*kryogenix*]

are they adding to the excitement in sports or are they just hurting sports?

[y0urmistake]

i dont know but all i know is they are very bad

[ppl_love_me]

there is all kind of proof that steriods are not helpfull in sports. I would know I did a PP on them for health. A boy died here in my home town bcause of them!

I'll find the articles I used and post them.

[*Kathleen*]

Eh I don't honestly think they're helping simply because it's not fair, and games are supposed to be played fairly, you know? Furthermore, it makes us look weak, as if we can't play sports without them.

[ComradeRed]

You do steroids, don't you? Come on, admit it...

[winsome]

steroids cause health risks, create an unlevel playing field... but sometimes it's just really entertaining to watch a muscle bound meathead with a tree trunk for a neck guzzling triple-fortified protein shakes and eating power bars. isn't it?

if players want to use steroids and it's not against the 'rules' of their sports league (is that how you spell 'league'?...leauge... i'll look it up later) then I say they have every right to alter their bodies and become the mega-muscle maniacs they were born to be!

[ComradeRed]

It's League.

[jz1134]

well i think that steroids is the equivalent to hacking in cs its cheating and do cheaters take the fun out of games si senorita so steroids take the fun out of games

[Mini]

well i think that steroids is the equivalent to hacking in cs its cheating and do cheaters take the fun out of games si senorita so steroids take the fun out of games

i agree.

[JlIaTMK]

steriods only make it look like ur weak and vulnerable

if sports r ur profession than would it really be ur profession if u use an easy way through?

[moomoognu]

Steroids are evil.

[DavidxN]

steriods only make it look like ur weak and vulnerable

if sports r ur profession than would it really be ur profession if u use an easy way through?

but people always use an easy way thru anything. i've thought about using steroids a couple times in the past but i haven't cuz i was too young but then i heard it can permanently damage your brain and muscles so ill just take the hard way. and i heard alotta models takes steroids like in those abercrombie and fitch models but iunno if its true or not

[*kryogenix*]

really what i'm asking is this:

would you rather see games where baseball players hit balls 900 ft away, basketball players dunk from half court and quarterbacks throw the ball 100 yds, or see the game without the steroids, but at a lower level.

[stryker76]

really what i'm asking is this:

would you rather see games where baseball players hit balls 900 ft away, basketball players dunk from half court and quarterbacks throw the ball 100 yds, or see the game without the steroids, but at a lower level.

ok Well first of all as an athelete(sp) i am HIGHLY against steriods.....but then i see how you point out some of the present day things that are done in pro sports...well yeah standards have increased people and coachs have found the right exercise that increase the muscles you need to excel....also...i mean many of the pros that we see now have been raised to be that...they have work so hard for years to get to where they are now.....and i hate how those that got there with steriods make those that worked for it look bad...it is majorly messed up. I work out every other day...i run every day....and im eating less then half what i used to to get in shape for football...and i mean there are guys that can lift almost 300 lbs...i would never turn to drugs to improve my proformance.....what is the point ot that crap....besides...it makes balls strink and your head get big......

[DavidxN]

most people use steroids not because they can't lift alot or run as hard, its cuz they weren't born with good genetics. even if they eat alot and train hard they wont bulk up so they probably go to steroids.

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

I was one steriods once, however that was for clearing up my nose, not being athletic.

I think they're unfair and make you look bad. When people find out that you're on steriods they'll probably think less of you as an athlete.

[angel-roh]

prolly excitement...but wat i think is theres a lot of injuring going on...like football...hehe.... u see ouchies a lot... big bullies crashing the weak ones... augh... it's like a nightmare and so sad hehe...newais but i think is to show the physical strength. so i guess excitement.

[darkcoldplace]

what susan said lol

[*Kathleen*]

James, to answer your second question, I'd rather see it at a lower level. That way, you know they're being true to themselves and also because it's fair that way.

[Mr. Psychotic]

James, to answer your second question, I'd rather see it at a lower level. That way, you know they're being true to themselves and also because it's fair that way.

Mr. Psychotic says
"i agree 100% because its like...people in sports today dont play the game anymore for the love of it! They just do it for the money and girls and stuff!"

[DavidxN]

Mr. Psychotic says
"i agree 100% because its like...people in sports today dont play the game anymore for the love of it! They just do it for the money and girls and stuff!"

so true, theres like 3 or 4 ppl on my team taht i know actually play because they love it and they want to play professionally or in college....but i play to bulk up and look good

[EmeraldKnight]

Alright.. steroids..

Fairness attribute: none.. it gives an unfair advantage to those that do not use steroids; its putting up a normal person's abilities against those of a person boosted with steroids.. who had to do less work, less training to build up than the normal nonsteroid person had to do.. not fair at all

Mr. Psychotic says
"i agree 100% because its like...people in sports today dont play the game anymore for the love of it! They just do it for the money and girls and stuff!"

That is not true.. perhaps a significant portion of pro players do that, but I wouldnt know.. the original intent of sports were for entertainment, amusement.. a competition of original skill and talent.. and the use of steroids detracts from its original purpose.. steroids.. propagate the aspect outlined in the above quote.. it detracts from the love of the game.. and HELPS turn it simply into a desire for wealth and fame..

So my answer against steroids is a resounding NO

[*Kathleen*]

Is there anyone who's for steroids?

[DavidxN]

i'm kinda for steroids cuz what if this all-star quarterback is like extremely good and has been spotted by colleges and stuff and he tears his arm muscle and he isn't allowed to play anymore..and thats unfair...so if he takes steroids just to rebuild muscle just so he can throw again and get back in the game...i think that would be alright

[Mireh]

People should be good at sports by training vigorously, not using drugs to cheat their way up to the top.

[SasukeNaru]

Steroids.. surrre if u want organs enlarged and shrunken (gender wise)

[bigpoppaproppy]

ugh

1) steroids can be used safely, even though our wonderful government doesnt want you to think so(but they ALWAYS have noble reasons for laws and are ALWAYS right ) Also, if you're not an idiot, and you run an intelligent cycle, at the proper length/dose, and with proper post-cycle anti-aromitizer's, you will be FINE. Side effects are nullified with the use of post-cycle products.

2) STEROIDS ARE NOT A MAGICAL PILL!!! you can't shoot heart...you can't swallowa pill full of skill.....the ONLY thing steroids do is increase protein synthesis....eg: allow the body to synthesize more protein quicker....athletes on steroids have to work HARDER on their diet. if it is not perfect, the steroids wont work. simple as that.

3) the anabolic steroid control act, which made steroids illegal, was passed BECAUSE of athletics. there is NOT ONE mention of health in the bill, but simply a bill about fair play in the olympics and pro sports. SInce when does sports govern the nation theres a reason sports have their own individual rules and testing.

4) why the hell are steroids classified with heroin and cocaine, and not in the lesser 2 categories of controlled substances??? I forgot, because someone goes to the gym and wants to be accelerate gains, they MUST be as bad as someone dealin crack to kids

5) the first person who mentions protein powder/creatine/pro-hormones/ephedrine/glutamine/any other nutritional supplement as a steroid deserves to be hit by a bus

6) fudge this government and its bullshit laws....they ban ephedrine, andro and pro-hormones without proving shit, yet smoking and alcohol are perfectly legal. even though all these products HAD warning labels, theyre illegal to protect fvcking idiots. Yet tobacco is legal? people MISUSED ephedrine and hurt themselves b/c Darwin was correct and they were morons, yet it's the products fault. SO i guess next time I take 56 of whatever the doc gives me for a cold, it must be his fault

im sick and fvcking tired of this nation passing the blame...."its not ur fault ur fat" "its not ur fault u hurt yourself" "its not your fault u died"

fvck you, it IS your fault, your a moron, Darwin was a genious, and you are doing the world a favor by wiping it of your seed



/rant

[EmeraldKnight]

ugh

1) steroids can be used safely, even though our wonderful government doesnt want you to think so(but they ALWAYS have noble reasons for laws and are ALWAYS right  ) Also, if you're not an idiot, and you run an intelligent cycle, at the proper length/dose, and with proper post-cycle anti-aromitizer's, you will be FINE. Side effects are nullified with the use of post-cycle products.

2) STEROIDS ARE NOT A MAGICAL PILL!!! you can't shoot heart...you can't swallowa pill full of skill.....the ONLY thing steroids do is increase protein synthesis....eg: allow the body to synthesize more protein quicker....athletes on steroids have to work HARDER on their diet. if it is not perfect, the steroids wont work. simple as that.

3) the anabolic steroid control act, which made steroids illegal, was passed BECAUSE of athletics. there is NOT ONE mention of health in the bill, but simply a bill about fair play in the olympics and pro sports. SInce when does sports govern the nation  theres a reason sports have their own individual rules and testing.

4) why the hell are steroids classified with heroin and cocaine, and not in the lesser 2 categories of controlled substances??? I forgot, because someone goes to the gym and wants to be accelerate gains, they MUST be as bad as someone dealin crack to kids 

5) the first person who mentions protein powder/creatine/pro-hormones/ephedrine/glutamine/any other nutritional supplement as a steroid deserves to be hit by a bus

6) fudge this government and its bullshit laws....they ban ephedrine, andro and pro-hormones without proving shit, yet smoking and alcohol are perfectly legal. even though all these products HAD warning labels, theyre illegal to protect fvcking idiots. Yet tobacco is legal? people MISUSED ephedrine and hurt themselves b/c Darwin was correct and they were morons, yet it's the products fault. SO i guess next time I take 56 of whatever the doc gives me for a cold, it must be his fault

im sick and fvcking tired of this nation passing the blame...."its not ur fault ur fat" "its not ur fault u hurt yourself" "its not your fault u died"

fvck you, it IS your fault, your a moron, Darwin was a genious, and you are doing the world a favor by wiping it of your seed



/rant

1. Alright, I'll give you that.. they CAN be used safely, but often are NOT
2. BUT it still gives them an unfair advantage over other players that do not use steroids
3. Sports governing the nation? wtf is your point in this one?
4. Not sure about this one, since I didnt know that fact
5. That's just mean this is a debate, what's your point?
6. Tobacco shouldnt be legal.. and if they misused it, its not the products fault.. that's what courts are for deciding

Well.. certain genetic traits are passed down and it is nature's fault that we inherit genetic tendencies... the hurting yourself would be your fault.. and dying.. well if someone died of cancer or something untreatable disease.. how the fVck is it your fault?

Alright, please stop insulting ppl.. its not nice.. oh and.. wtf is a "genious"? At least SPELL the word right... sheesh..

[bigpoppaproppy]

1. Alright, I'll give you that.. they CAN be used safely, but often are NOT
2. BUT it still gives them an unfair advantage over other players that do not use steroids
3. Sports governing the nation? wtf is your point in this one?
4. Not sure about this one, since I didnt know that fact
5. That's just mean this is a debate, what's your point?
6. Tobacco shouldnt be legal.. and if they misused it, its not the products fault.. that's what courts are for deciding

Well.. certain genetic traits are passed down and it is nature's fault that we inherit genetic tendencies... the hurting yourself would be your fault.. and dying.. well if someone died of cancer or something untreatable disease.. how the fVck is it your fault?

Alright, please stop insulting ppl.. its not nice.. oh and.. wtf is a "genious"? At least SPELL the word right... sheesh..

1. wow, so are 215853 over the counter and prescription drugs...i dont see those being banned
2. like I said, let the league regulate use, not the government
3. my point is the entire reason steroids are illegal for recreational bodybuilders or ANYONE for that matter is because of sports...read up on the anabolic steroid control act
4. its true, crapy as it is
5. hows that mean? calling any of what I mentioned steroids is ignorant
6. exactly, its not the products fault, my point exactly

um, read more carefully please, the dying/injury was again in relation to steroid/supplement use. If they get hurt or die, 99.9% chance it's their fault

why? people that manage to hurt themselves with supplements used them wrong. if you cant read a label or respect yourself enough to research what your taking enough to not hurt yourself, you deserve what you get.

and I didn't know you were the spelling police. "or something untreatable disease" if you're gonna bitch about spelling, then watch your grammar

[DavidxN]

ugh

1) steroids can be used safely, even though our wonderful government doesnt want you to think so(but they ALWAYS have noble reasons for laws and are ALWAYS right ) Also, if you're not an idiot, and you run an intelligent cycle, at the proper length/dose, and with proper post-cycle anti-aromitizer's, you will be FINE. Side effects are nullified with the use of post-cycle products.

2) STEROIDS ARE NOT A MAGICAL PILL!!! you can't shoot heart...you can't swallowa pill full of skill.....the ONLY thing steroids do is increase protein synthesis....eg: allow the body to synthesize more protein quicker....athletes on steroids have to work HARDER on their diet. if it is not perfect, the steroids wont work. simple as that.

3) the anabolic steroid control act, which made steroids illegal, was passed BECAUSE of athletics. there is NOT ONE mention of health in the bill, but simply a bill about fair play in the olympics and pro sports. SInce when does sports govern the nation theres a reason sports have their own individual rules and testing.

4) why the hell are steroids classified with heroin and cocaine, and not in the lesser 2 categories of controlled substances??? I forgot, because someone goes to the gym and wants to be accelerate gains, they MUST be as bad as someone dealin crack to kids

5) the first person who mentions protein powder/creatine/pro-hormones/ephedrine/glutamine/any other nutritional supplement as a steroid deserves to be hit by a bus

6) fudge this government and its bullshit laws....they ban ephedrine, andro and pro-hormones without proving shit, yet smoking and alcohol are perfectly legal. even though all these products HAD warning labels, theyre illegal to protect fvcking idiots. Yet tobacco is legal? people MISUSED ephedrine and hurt themselves b/c Darwin was correct and they were morons, yet it's the products fault. SO i guess next time I take 56 of whatever the doc gives me for a cold, it must be his fault

im sick and fvcking tired of this nation passing the blame...."its not ur fault ur fat" "its not ur fault u hurt yourself" "its not your fault u died"

fvck you, it IS your fault, your a moron, Darwin was a genious, and you are doing the world a favor by wiping it of your seed



/rant

YOU ARE A GENIOUS

[Mr. Psychotic]

they make you grow man boobs and make girl grow chest hair and stuff like that

thats just nasty

[greeneggs]

they r juss hurting sports. lots of athletes r taking them so they have advantages ova non-steroid users.

[bigpoppaproppy]

they make you grow man boobs and make girl grow chest hair and stuff like that

thats just nasty

yeah
if you're ignorant and dont know what you're doing

its called "post cycle anti-aromitizers"


cycle properly and run some nolva post cycle for a few weeks and you're fine

[bigpoppaproppy]

paper I wrote as a final paper for a class last semester...professor gave me a 95%


Legalizing The Juice


I believe steroids should be legal to possess and use. Steroids, like many other substances, have been unfairly given a bad rap by the government because of undereducated sources, mal-informed studies, and other reasons. When the topic of steroids is brought up during discussion, the most common conception is of a big muscular freak with veins everywhere, a receding hairline and shrunken reproductive parts. However, the truth is that steroids, when used properly, are a safe tool in the handbag of a lifter. They are not a magic drug, automatic win or unfair advantage. They are simply a hormone that happens to be beneficial to lifters.
Steroids are a hormone that only becomes dangerous when abused. Comically
enough, health risks were not even one of the main reasons discussed when steroids were banned. Steroids work in quite a simple way. Steroids increase the rate of protein synthesis in the body, which is basically how muscle is built. This is one reason they are not simply magic, but rather just an effective supplement. They take a current body process and speed it up, helping to achieve quicker muscular hypertrophy and shorter recovery times between workouts. However, in order to put this to use, the user must drastically increase their protein and overall caloric intake, and often must structure their diets much stricter than a natural athlete. Steroids, like most supplements, work at their best and safest levels when cycled properly. By cycling properly, and avoiding extreme doses when on, a subject can avoid the two main causes of negative health effects. More often than not negative health side effects come as a result of repeated, dangerously high doses. Tom Prince, an IFBB professional bodybuilder, recently underwent a kidney operation at the age of 34. In an article on Prince from this month’s Flex Magazine, Greg Merritt states, “Prince’s kidneys failed…primarily because of the painkillers and bodybuilding drugs he took in large doses for many years” (Flex Magazine 91). The blame for Prince’s kidney failure was not placed simply on the fact he took steroids, or the steroids themselves. Rather, the blame was to place on the numerous cycles of ever-increasing doses he was taking. Prince himself admits “I definitely could’ve taken a whole lot less over the years” (Flex Magazine 93). In a 1996 study, researches found that when anabolic steroids were administered at 600 milligrams per week for ten weeks(close to six times natural replacement dose) virtually no side effects were observed. As the studies show, side effects although possible, are typically minimal with responsible use. This is why it is recommended to anyone planning to use to have at least 1-2 years of intensive study of steroids down before using. This helps to ensure that those who adhere are amply knowledged to safely cycle. By educating yourself on what you will be using, you can run a responsible cycle with no more side effects than you would get normally with any medication.
Simply classifying steroids as an illegal substance does little to control their
distribution and use. Steroids were officially made illegal with the passing of the Federal Anabolic Control Act on March 1, 1991. According to the American College of Sports Medicine’s official statement on steroids, “Since 1991 steroid use by males has been stable.” With 1991 also being the year the steroid ban went into effect, this shows that illegality has done nothing to curb use. When a law put in place 13 years ago whose purpose is to stop use has done nothing to lower use, you must question the effectiveness and necessity of the law. Many opponents of the law are quick to point out failures of other government laws such as prohibition and drug laws. According to most, energy would be better spent in education on the subject. Instead, the passing of the law has pushed the steroid supply into the black market, which creates an uncertainty over who is buying and at what quality. Instead of having steroids be legally available only to responsible adults through and in accordance with regular testing and advising of their doctor, they instead reside on the black market, available to teens everywhere. Summarizing, the control act has pushed steroids underground to a booming black market, made the practice less safe and more available to teens, and has done nothing to slow down use by adults. So now we have regular, non-criminal citizens hastily buying steroids overseas on the black market, using dirty and tainted steroids improperly, and being jailed alongside crack dealers.
Also, it hampers the attempts of people in medical need to obtain them. Hormone replacement has been shown to be an effective treatment for the elderly. However, in fear of the Control Act, many physicians find it difficult to prescribe steroids to needy elderly patients in fear of violating the act. Also, there is a large economic loss to the nation. According to one website, and verified by other sources, “heavy demand has generated a black market with estimated sales of up to $400 million a year!” (www.steroids.com).
Like with many things, the media has been used like the powerful tool it is to negatively influence public opinion on steroids. As Rick Collins states in his article from Muscular Development,
“The mainstream media have thoroughly vilified these hormones for several decades. The use by mature adults of any amount of anabolic hormones to enhance physical appearance is invariably labeled anabolic steroid "abuse" and, consequently, the average American lumps the athletic steroid user into the same depraved category as the heroin or cocaine user.”
The media has widely overblown the reported side effects as well. They have touted stories from unfounded research and anecdotal claims, while ignoring the other side of the issue. Even at the time of the banning, the media (and courts) chose to ignore input from numerous important sources. “Many witnesses who testified at the hearings, including medical professionals and representatives of…the FDA, DEA and the National Institute on Drug Abuse-recommended against the proposed amendment…Even the American Medical Association repeatedly and vehemently opposed it…” says Rick Collins, a leading authority on steroids in America.
Steroids are a natural hormone whose benefit has been put to use by many athletes and non-athletes alike. The athlete gets no special treatment, no increased skill and no magic fix to their game. They simply get an increased rate of protein synthesis and a larger grocery bill. Steroids are a supplement, a simple tool. Like any other product on the market today, they are safe when used properly, dangerous when abused. To single them out against some government agencies wishes, and without a full understanding, is unfair and downright harmful. Teen use is up, adult use is the same, product quality has
decreased, education and research have worsened, and needy elderly patients now cannot get what they need. Time and time again the government has banned substances because of public perception rather than scientific proof, and steroids are just another casualty in this battle.








Works Cited:

American College of Sports Medicine. Official Statement on Steroids. <www.acsm.org> 20 April 2004.

Collins, Rick. Esq. The Anabolic Steroid Control Act: the Wrong Prescription. Muscular Development. April 2002.

Collins, Rick. Esq. Legal Muscle: Anabolics in America. Legal Muscle Publishing. East Meadow, NY. 2002.

S. Bhasin, T.W. Storer, N. Berman, et al.., The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men. New England Journal of Medicine. 4 July 1996. 1-7.

Steroids dot com. <www.steroids.com> 20 Apr. 2004.

Steroid Information dot com. <www.steroidinformation.com> 15 Apr. 200

[EmeraldKnight]

Wow... bleh.. I dont have the time to read all that though.. x.x

Instead of having us read the entire thing, could you just pull out main points from it? Thanks.

[bigpoppaproppy]

god damnit, one of my online friends got busted bigtime for steroids

the ONLY reason he's facing felony charges now and having his life ruined is because the government wanted fair play in sports

thats why sports have their own rules..ARGH

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=..._id=73829&rfi=6