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[Elba]

My pictures thread. How does it fall into the category of posting w/o permission? I censored her face. We had permission when we posted them back in August. This is bullshit.

[manny-the-dino]

i'm sorry.

[Just_Dream]

Her face is censored, although it is with a trashcan. But why should it matter? So if I put like, a naruto face on it, would that have made a difference? Probably not.

This wouldn't have been a problem is a certain someone didn't delete the original thread in the first place. Oh and as for permission - yea we did have permission back in August. Oh, and if it's without her permission, maybe she should've made that clear, instead of deleting the thread, then hiding behind invisible mode so much.

[rnicron]

I'd have to agree that she's censored. Can I ask why pictures aren't deleted when people post up pictures with their friends? You don't have permission there. Just because the person is a member, yeah? Ridiculous. Her face is covered. If she wouldn't have deleted the thread in the first place, they wouldn't have had to do it.

[Tung]

Hmm this is very interesting. I'm not siding with anybody just yet until I hear from both sides of this argument.

[Elba]

Tung, you know you're on my side.

Where can I find the rule about not posting pictures w/o permission?

[Tung]

Well since I am only hearing your side thus far, and the other person has yet to speak out, yes I'm leaning towards you right now on this case as you have many good reasons. Just waiting to hear the other side.

Here are the guidelines Elba.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...nity+guidelines

[Elba]

It's not in there.

[misoshiru]

is it under the pictures subforum?

[Tung]

Well darn. Either the guidelines haven't been updated, or the Posting pictures of other people without their consent is a phantom rule.

edit. nvrm.
And in that rule it says other "memebers" not "members" so technically you could post pictures of other members, but just not other memebers.

[Elba]

Thomas, do I have to read through all that to find it?

[Elba]

I still don't see it.

[misoshiru]

this was all I saw:

Posting Pictures
If found posting pictures of other memebers in order to demean them, the image will be removed and you will have an increased warning and if needed put on mod preview.

[Elba]

You know on television when they don't have someone's permission to put them on TV, they censor their face. How is this any different. Those are not Trish's pictures, they're our pictures. She deleted the original topic (although she wont admit to it, just like she wont admit to making up the story about having a twin), so why can't we make another topic of our pictures from our first meeting? Since I didn't have her permission THIS time to post the pictures AGAIN, I should just be able to censor out her fat face, right?

[rnicron]

Correct. Moved to Resolved Feedback.

[Just_Dream]

Hmm this is very interesting. I'm not siding with anybody just yet until I hear from both sides of this argument.

Come on Tung, when was the last time you even heard from Trish (besides the topic that she claims as "resolved") when things like this are brought up?

[Elba]

Only shit I've see her do lately is delete and close shit that has to do with her.

"Oh someone is posing as my fake twin. Gotta ban them and delete all posts!"

[Just_Dream]

Only shit I've see her do lately is delete and close shit that has to do with her.

Exactly. So I don't think we're going to see this "other side" anytime soon, but that's fine because it just makes us more right, I guess.

[Elba]

Let's just make another topic then.

[Elba]

Sorry, Thomas, but that took me so long that I am not even going to do it again. Anyone else want to make a nicer censor?

Topic resolved elba's a bitch moved to resolved feedback

not

[Elba]

Christina has them in her photobucket. I could email them to you.

[Just_Dream]

lol, I could do it for you, do you have them in a photobucket or anything?

I don't think a walmart smiley would make a difference. That's what I'm trying to say.

EDIT - no, Elba just made another topic.

[Tung]

Come on Tung, when was the last time you even heard from Trish (besides the topic that she claims as "resolved") when things like this are brought up?

Well she is Head Staff. She should be a little more active and interact with the community like the rest of staff, but you're right on how she isn't doing much on staff other than "hiding" and going through the queue and only post when she is called out. But that's your case and not mines, so maybe you should post in Mod Performance if you feel like it, but I'll still be neutral on this case, since the other side has yet to speak out. But as right now, looks like Elba is making a very strong case, since it's been all one-sided thus far.

Also, why did Dani closed your topic, and not remove the pictures? I mean the pictures are still there.....Usually by the rule she stated when she closed the topic, the pictures are supposed to be removed as well..so it was useless to close the topic in the firsts place imo.

[Just_Dream]

But that's your case and not mines, so maybe you should post in Mod Performance if you feel like it, but I'll still be neutral on this case, since the other side has yet to speak out. But as right now, looks like Elba is making a very strong case, since it's been all one-sided thus far.

I completely understand where you're coming from here, but I just really wanted to point out that most likely you will not hear from the other side, that's all.

[libertie]

The rule about posting without consent is at the top of every page in the pictures forum.

I can just see why she'd be offended, is all I'm saying. She's still in the pictures, but her face is covered up by a trash can. You might as well have drawn on horns and a mustache or something.

[Elba]

That would have been much more work.

Her face is censored, though.

[manny-the-dino]

wait, why would you guys censor her anyways?

[Teesa]

^because she deleted the original topic that the pictures were in. and because they don't like her.

[manny-the-dino]

^ LOL ok

[rnicron]

^because she deleted the original topic that the pictures were in. and because they don't like her.

Not necessarily that they don't like her, it's just the fact that they had all taken the pictures together. Trish deleted the thread. Elba and Christina wanted the pictures up so they just put up a censor. Who f**king cares what it is? Her face isn't in it; that's what she wants. Dani said something like she's still going to be offended because she's in the picture...ok, and? They're not going to sit there and edit her out. Like it's been said, she wasn't offended last time. If it's been posted before, it should be allowed to be posted now.

[libertie]

It's not because she's in the picture that she should be offended, it's because of the way they censored her. Why should we allow that and how is that NOT member bashing?

[rnicron]

How is her randomly deleting the thread that ANOTHER MEMBER made not against the rules? There was absolutely nothing wrong with the thread the first time.

[misoshiru]

not to mention deleting it from the trash can.

[Elba]

You're reason for closing it was that it was considered posting another member's picture without their permission. You didn't say anything about member bashing. If we had censored her with something else, would it have been okay? You made it seem like those pictures couldn't be posted at all because Trish was originally in them.

[libertie]

Believe me, I'm not saying that's okay (deleting the topic).

When I closed the first topic (which obviously was pointless) you guys gave the reasoning that she wasn't in the pictures. She WAS in the pictures (just not her face); and in my opinion what you did to the pictures was worse than leaving them intact. If you were going to take her out of the picture, I don't see why you couldn't just use a normal censor. In fact, it would probably be easier and take less effort to scratch her out with the brush tool than to put the trash can over her face.

I'm sorry for not being more clear when I posted my response in that thread, but my reasoning was a combination of the two. If you had just taken her out of the picture using any normal means I would have no problem with the pictures being posted. However, as I would do with any member, I am looking out for the fact that the pictures were edited in a way that was disrespectful - you didn't just take her out of the picture, you made it a point to insult her in the process.

[Elba]

It was a TRASH CAN. Trash can because she deleted topics from the trash can. It wasn't intended to insult her. Just poke fun at the deletion of things--like the deletion of the original topic.

[libertie]

That's fine, I just don't think she took it that way and all I'm saying is that I can see why.

[transcendentalis...]

it kind of sounds like we're throwing around elastic clauses right now, with our elastic clause being that the pictures are demeaning, and yours that you're just poking fun.

how do you expect someone to decipher what anything actually really means, especially on the internet?

[misoshiru]

theinternetisseriousbusiness

[Elba]

Closed again?

Why doesn't that bitch bitch about things in public instead of hiding backstage.

Baibai

[rnicron]

how do you expect someone to decipher what anything actually really means, especially on the internet?

That's not just a one sided question...

[transcendentalis...]

true story. but i'm pretty sure that if we had kids roaming around the school with "white pride" shirts, they'd probably get in trouble.

i think the question here (there and everywhere) is if whatever it is you wanna discuss is offensive. we could be tama and report absolutely everything, or take on a completely lackadaisical attitude towards everything that goes on here, which would most likely drive away any new potentially active members. i personally feel that we have a decent median that isn't all that intimidating to the nubs, and that if said nubs went on and visited the 2/3/4/bitches(+trashcan)topic, they'd find a humorously hostile environment. not universally appealing.

(all right, nothing's universally appealing. catch my drift somewhat, though?)

[rnicron]

Well, start removing every picture that has someone else in it besides the poster. You don't have their friend/whoever else is in the picture's permission. That's what you're getting at, so get started.

[Insurmountable]

I use to go to school everyday and where a straight pride hoodie.

I mean it doesn't say White pride, but of course i offended the gay people, and I never got in trouble.

[transcendentalis...]

actually

If found posting pictures of other memebers in order to demean them, the image will be removed and you will have an increased warning and if needed put on mod preview.

only if there are other memebers in the picture. or if some random friend of a member messages me or something odd and is like what the f**k take down my picture, then yeah, sure, i'll take the thing off.

i can see how trashcans over faces can be demeaning. pictures with multiple people just being there... i'm not seeing it.

let's all collectively try for some integrity, now.

[rnicron]

The other day was the day of silence thing. My brother who is in MIDDLE SCHOOL said there were kids with signs on their shirts that said "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." Your point doesn't exactly work, now.

[Insurmountable]

lol. Adam and steve. haha

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[rnicron]

actually
only if there are other memebers in the picture. or if some random friend of a member messages me or something odd and is like what the f**k take down my picture, then yeah, sure, i'll take the thing off.

i can see how trashcans over faces can be demeaning. pictures with multiple people just being there... i'm not seeing it.

let's all collectively try for some integrity, now.

IT'S NOT FUCKING DEMEANING! TRISH IS JUST PISSED THAT THEY PUT THE PICTURES BACK UP AND SHE NEEDS SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT! IT'S ALL SHE'S GOOD AT! GOD, STFU ABOUT THIS DEMEANING BULLSHIT!

[Tung]

I have an "Asian Pride" shirt.

[Insurmountable]

Oh I agree that it could have been demeaning and all, I mean at first I thought it meant that Trish was gross or something.

Then when they said it was because she deleted the topics, I don't want to get into it. Because you know as much as I think its horrible at how much they poke at Trish about things..Trish should have just came out and said "Hey I didn't delete the topic" instead of allowing everyone to assume it was her.


I said that in a PM, just figured I would post it here too.

[Melie]

why hasn't she said something to settle this once and for all? i mean why allow people to assume what the reason is when she should stand up for herself and her decision.

edit-pretty much what holly said

[Elba]

Because she doesn't want to admit to deleting the topic; just like she doesn't want to admit to making up lies upon lies.

[rnicron]

She'd rather us speculate because she can't come up with an excuse anymore.

[transcendentalis...]

i haven't talked to trish all day, nor have i seen posts backstage of her bitching about her picture thread. i'm sure that if i searched and assumed hard enough, i could find something, but frankly i don't find it to be worth the time.

honestly, spencer, and whoever it is who thinks this is all worth fighting about, i don't understand why it's so difficult for you guys to consider that not all jokes are hilarious and some might end up driving people away (though i don't think trish is soft enough to be driven away by anyone's antics around here).

i really don't see how hard it is to have an ounce of respect for anyone around here, because even as much as i don't think much of a lot of the shit that goes on and the people that instigate it all, i don't exactly recall making any topics pointedly making a statement at someone here. if you must bitch, keep it in feedback or off the rest of the forums (in which case, you're doing a wonderful job).

[rnicron]

NOW let's talk about integrity, Ruthless.

[transcendentalis...]

tomorrow. i need to relearn bio before midnight.

[Insurmountable]

I do agree with Ruth, as I told her. If it was me and I was on people staff I would have closed the topic and then asked backstage if the pictures should have been removed.

I've had my pictures posted and had mean things said about them, and of course its not the same thing, but I was offended. I wouldn't want someone else to deal with that as well. Even though there wasn't any rules or anything, when I first saw the pictures the first thing that came to me was that she was trashy or gross or something and I think thats offensive.

Of course after what you guys said, you can refer to my other post as to what I thought of it.

[Just_Dream]

(though i don't think trish is soft enough to be driven away by anyone's antics around here).

Where is she, anyways?

[transcendentalis...]

vegas? i think dani posted it somewhere.

[libertie]

Backstage, but yes, she's out of town until tomorrow she said. =\

[Tung]

^ is..she goin 2 adress the issuezz att hand..dat were present befoo she ran awayy to vegass.. ? da peepzz hurr aree waiting forrr da answersss mang...!!

[*paperplane*]

That's a little bit suspect.

[libertie]

I'm sure she'll have something to say when she gets back.

[Just_Dream]

Oh well, I, the OTHER CHRISTINA, am going to Las Vegas this coming Friday until next Monday. So hopefully we'll get a response about this before I leave.

[rnicron]

Don't get your hopes up.

[Teesa]

most moderators are good about this, but it should be more clear when one of them leaves.

[Rachel]

I'm sure she'll have something to say when she gets back.

lol....

"OMG, I AM SO FXCKING TIRED OF THIS. IT IS A STOCKPHOTO, IE NO CREDIT NEEDED, DUH BITCHES. I AM THE BEST AND I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF THIS BULLSHIT. f**k YA'LL, PEACE OUT. I SPEAK 596235 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND HAVE A BANGING BOYFRIEND."

[superstitious]

most moderators are good about this, but it should be more clear when one of them leaves.

It's funny you should say that, Tessa. Not funny, haha, but weird in a way. I had something happen this weekend (well, actually the past month or so has been insane, to say the least for me) but yeah, I went to post in the Lounge absent thread to find it unpinned and sort of hidden. I did post in the Backstage absent thread, but that certainly does the community no good. I guess we can just bump it when a staff member will be out (as I had to be for a few days and will not be active as much as I was a month or so ago, for personal reasons).

Anyway -

I'm sure she'll have something to say when she gets back.

What she said. I was hoping there'd be a response by now.

[Elba]

Come on, girls. You weren't around three years ago when Trish was caught bullshitting. She's not going to say anything. She'll probably just leave again for a year or two and go back to vexels.net.

[Insurmountable]

Well she should be back tonight or tomorrow. Shes had plenty of time to think about this, so I would hope she would have something to say.

[Rachel]

Come on, girls. You weren't around three years ago when Trish was caught bullshitting. She's not going to say anything. She'll probably just leave again for a year or two and go back to vexels.net.

Don't forget about taking down all her skinzzzzz

[Elba]

Pft, Indian giver.

[misoshiru]

I went to post in the Lounge absent thread to find it unpinned and sort of hidden.

how did that happen?

[libertie]

Come on, girls. You weren't around three years ago when Trish was caught bullshitting. She's not going to say anything. She'll probably just leave again for a year or two and go back to vexels.net.

I caught the tail end of that actually, or maybe even the aftermath.

About the absent thread, Jusun unpinned it deeming it unnecessary..

[rnicron]

What a fucking bitch.

Let's add this to the list.

[brooklyneast05]

About the absent thread, Jusun unpinned it deeming it unnecessary..

i can't even come close to understanding the reasoning behind this. if someone wasn't here, you could easily just go check the thread. it's more unnecessary to have to speculate about where a mod is rather than them just posting in the absent thread. even if they make their own thread it's just going to get knocked off the page, or be impossible to search for since everyone will have different titles. the absent thread was a way more organized idea.

f**king stupid imo.

unnecessary for people who can see the absent thread backstage, yeah.


/end rant.

[Just_Dream]

Okay no way in hell am I going to PM Trish abut this because she'll either ignore it or be a total bitch about it.

I think this is total bullshit that she "stepped down" and NONE OF US received any kind of resolve about it all. The moderating staff is obviously trying to keep this low key as possible, even though we all have been WAITING for what has been going on. Are you guys really going to keep us out of the limelight? Is it so hard to tell us what went on about this, while she was gone, and how it even GOT resolved? Don't tell me that Trish just "stepped down" because of other responsibilities, without even addressing exactly what she did and how you guys went about to resolve it.

And I am not in any way directing this to a single person (sorry if it came off that way).

[Elba]

Damn, Christina, you are such a bitch Haha, but I agree. What really went on? What made her step down?

[Melissa]

hm.

i think i'm not such a fan of this micron presence on the boards. yeah, it's pretty cool that he's the creator of cB and all, but he was better as an "absent father" type of figure if ya get what i mean.

[libertie]

I'll give you a bit of a timeline:

Jusun moved that topic to resolved and said he would move the issue backstage. He did. A few of us commented, but for the most part we all said we wanted to wait for Trish's response. We waited. During all of this time, she never posted anything (at all) backstage or in the public forums, so none of us ever got closure on the issue either.

When she returned to us yesterday, she IMed Rebecca and I telling us she would be stepping down due to a lack of time and dedication to CB and the desire to focus more on a new job. She didn't say anything with regards to the "jocking" issue other than that she didn't feel the need to defend herself and that it would be pointless for her to respond anyway.

So in short, we haven't been trying to keep anything from you here; the issue was that we wanted to give Trish a chance to say something. Instead she chose to step down - whether or not she made that decision related to the incident here is up in the air, but the reason she gave is that she is now more occupied with her job and has less time for CB.

[Teesa]

^thanks for explaining all of that.

it's just frustrating when she has never explained herself or admitted to anything when it is so clear she has done something wrong. it is so childish to just step down time and time again and then come back as if nothing happened.

and she should respond, as i don't see how it would be "pointless" since we are still curious.

[Sandraaa]

LMAO! I'm sure if she was 'popular' and favored, she'd have stuck around BUT she doesn't have time anymore =(. Not that I give a shit.

[rnicron]

Weird that when this all surfaces, she doesn't have time.

Almost like when Melena surfaced, she suddenly lost interest.

Now, she'll be back in a year and yall will be like "o hai trish! come back to staff!"

It's going to be an endless cycle.

[libertie]

If I want to remain cool, then I think my limit is two months.

Otherwise I'll probably still be here (and not cool) then.

[shoryuken]

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