Street Gangs Are Taking Over the U.S. Military, Is the U.S. Military Being Slowly Compromised? Options

[illriginal]

According to a recently released FBI report, Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security.

The report, Gang Activity in the U.S. Armed Forces Increasing, dated January 12, states that members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations. These street gangs include the Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Gangster Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Mexican Mafia, Nortenos, Surenos, Vice Lords, and various white supremacist groups.


Source: http://usmilitary.about.com/b/2007/02/12/a...he-military.htm



What are your thoughts?... I'll explain my opinion in a lil bit.

[Melie]

to be honest, when i was in i didn't really see any of that kind of stuff. the only "gang" that i saw while in the military were the masons. i personally do not approve of their "fraternity" if you want to call it that.
There were a lot of fighting that would occur at nightclubs and such involving soldiers. but it was for various reason, not really gang related. i dont think there is a way to determine who is a member of a gang or not. but i feel that the military should take a strong action against those who do become involved in gang related incidents. but a slap on the wrist should not be the punishment. the military would sometimes issue what they call an article 15. depending on the severity of the issue, they would relinquish pay, force the soldier to perform various duties after work, and would restrict them from certain places. and this punishment would last for how ever many days the military would give. but these article 15's i dont think really get the message across to someone who is in a gang. but then again, i'm not in a gang and i would always turn a blind eye to things like this. well, thats my opinion.

[illriginal]

Last night I was watching Gang Land on A&E (I believe.. or History channel) anyways, it was about how there's over 10,000 troops in the U.S. Military in which are gang related, and show that they pledge their allegiance to their affiliation (their gang) via gang signs and graffiti.

There's been many cases in which crimes were involved with ex military men and women, many of them having to do with home evasions, bank robberies, and all out homicide, many of which were against Police officers.

Above that, there's many militants in which who have left the service only to become leaders of gangs and in their gangs in order to join them you must enlist into the marines and service the marines for at least 4 years before joining the gang.

These militant gangs have the fire power (through customizing their guns or illegally purchasing military weapons) and the fighting tactics to over come multiple counts of police officers.

What the FBI is worried about is these gang affiliated militants uniting and becoming a revolutionary military. Many of you who listen to hip hop know exactly what the name of this revolutionary military is... "People's Army" (which is spread across the world). This is what the FBI fears; an all out war with united gang affiliated ex U.S. militants.

Our men and women in the service are supposed to follow directions in eliminating not only foreign but domestic attacks on U.S. soil. But with the amount of gang affiliated militants, they fear that their own fully trained killing machines will turn on their own men and women along against their country, the U.S.A.

[*Steven*]

to be honest, when i was in i didn't really see any of that kind of stuff. the only "gang" that i saw while in the military were the masons. i personally do not approve of their "fraternity" if you want to call it that.
There were a lot of fighting that would occur at nightclubs and such involving soldiers. but it was for various reason, not really gang related. i dont think there is a way to determine who is a member of a gang or not. but i feel that the military should take a strong action against those who do become involved in gang related incidents. but a slap on the wrist should not be the punishment. the military would sometimes issue what they call an article 15. depending on the severity of the issue, they would relinquish pay, force the soldier to perform various duties after work, and would restrict them from certain places. and this punishment would last for how ever many days the military would give. but these article 15's i dont think really get the message across to someone who is in a gang. but then again, i'm not in a gang and i would always turn a blind eye to things like this. well, thats my opinion.

But you're fat so turning your head would have been too much effort.

[Simba]

"God's Warriors are dying and gangsters are their replacements." -- Cunninlynguists in "America Loves Gangsters"


Actually, I haven't even read the OP.

[illriginal]

"God's Warriors are dying and gangsters are their replacements." -- Cunninlynguists in "America Loves Gangsters"
Actually, I haven't even read the OP.

And i'm tuning into CNN watching marines mow down
Crowds with machine guns
16 weeks training, Atilla the Huns philosophies
And now they're thinking we won't bring peace to these
Streets with the same techniques that shit's hypocrisy
This ain't Democracy it's a Survival of the Fittest

I love that quote. And it's happening now before our very eyes :D
muahahahaha

But you're fat so turning your head would have been too much effort.

Yeah I simply disregarded her/his post... either he was based in a boot camp or she/he was a pencil pusher lol.

[*Steven*]

She's an army wife, lol.

[DoubleJ]

Damn! Go easy on her lol!

[jesusisthebestth...]

According to a recently released FBI report, Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security.

The report, Gang Activity in the U.S. Armed Forces Increasing, dated January 12, states that members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations. These street gangs include the Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Gangster Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Mexican Mafia, Nortenos, Surenos, Vice Lords, and various white supremacist groups.
Source: http://usmilitary.about.com/b/2007/02/12/a...he-military.htm
What are your thoughts?... I'll explain my opinion in a lil bit.

I'm actually stunned to read about this. I've never heard of this before. I thought the military did extremely thorough background checks and psycho-analytical tests to ensure that all applicants were as stable and reliable as possible. I mean, it's obvious that we don't want to give sociopaths AK-47s and send them off into the battlefield, therefore, these tests are necessary and understandable. I don't understand how someone could be a member of MS-13 and be allowed into the military, when it is known all over America just how dangerous these individuals are, as seen in their disregard for human life. This amazes me.

[fameONE]

This article strikes me as nothing more than exaggerated bullshit.

Gangs do exist in the military, but they stem from gang affiliations that some servicemen once had prior to them joining the military. I assure you, these so-called "gangbangers" would be long kicked out of the military if they really had that mentality. You'll find some of these clowns after work sporting their flags and rocking their colors, stacking handsigns and what not, but, those that really try to go all out, get kicked out.

Don't buy into this article.

[EddieV]

Airsoft players > Military

[Sumiaki]

^What do you own? I have a KWA DE, TM Glock 26 Metal slide. (I'm a AEG borrower :3) Thinking of picking up an Mp5 and M4A1 with all the trimmings but can't decide on a reliable Manufacturer.

back on topic...

I do believe organize crime is in our military and policing districts in order to gather training and intel. They're not just silly gangbangers, but organized crime. The article has some truth but is outlandishly written.

[Tung]

Airsoft players > Military

Bukkake > Airsoft.

But you're fat so turning your head would have been too much effort.

Honestly, I don't see a problem with this at all. Men who were once in the military feel they have the power to do whatever they want, and use the "I served this country" game. They can do whatever they please, as long as they are punish for the crimes they commit. Nothing wrong with street gangs. I was in the Triad once back in my days!

Also I wouldn't want any pussies drafted and fighting for my country.

[illriginal]

This article strikes me as nothing more than exaggerated bullshit.

Gangs do exist in the military, but they stem from gang affiliations that some servicemen once had prior to them joining the military. I assure you, these so-called "gangbangers" would be long kicked out of the military if they really had that mentality. You'll find some of these clowns after work sporting their flags and rocking their colors, stacking handsigns and what not, but, those that really try to go all out, get kicked out.

Don't buy into this article.

Maybe it is bullshit but... why would 60 Minutes (show) have an episode about this?... With F.B.I. agents saying more than what this article offers?

Do you have any proof they get kicked out? Because technically speaking, if you take a look at the policies of the Military there's nothing that says anything about not allowing gang affiliated members into the military, and 60 minutes assured this.

The reason being is, they don't know how to define "gang affiliation" so as of now, any gang member can join. I'm sure some time down the road though... that will change.

I'm actually stunned to read about this. I've never heard of this before. I thought the military did extremely thorough background checks and psycho-analytical tests to ensure that all applicants were as stable and reliable as possible. I mean, it's obvious that we don't want to give sociopaths AK-47s and send them off into the battlefield, therefore, these tests are necessary and understandable. I don't understand how someone could be a member of MS-13 and be allowed into the military, when it is known all over America just how dangerous these individuals are, as seen in their disregard for human life. This amazes me.

Nah... they don't. At least not when I joined the NAVY.
I do agree about MS-13... they're pretty much the most sadistic gang in America right now.

Honestly, I don't see a problem with this at all. Men who were once in the military feel they have the power to do whatever they want, and use the "I served this country" game. They can do whatever they please, as long as they are punish for the crimes they commit. Nothing wrong with street gangs. I was in the Triad once back in my days!

Also I wouldn't want any pussies drafted and fighting for my country.

And some of those men who feel they have that power, are the ones that create and lead militant gangs. Militant gangs as in... each member has served the military and have a military background.

[fameONE]

Tama:

Servicemen don't get kicked out because of their gang affiliation, but the pattern of misconduct caused by a "thug" mentality, and their actions cause this. You were in the Navy, so you're well aware of Non-judicial punishments for petty bullshit, and slap-on-the-wrist violations. Just recently there was a Marine who got kicked out because he wanted to act like the same knucklehead he was prior to enlisting. He got into constant fights, hauled off by the MPs on several different occasions, shoplifting, etc; all the same petty crimes that your young, dumb, local 'gang member' would commit. One thing that struck me as fcuking absurd was when he said to a Colonel at his Court Martial, "I'mma just go back to LA wit' the Pyrus 'cause that's where my family is." He had a better chance of walking around Iraq with a target on his head.

[illriginal]

Tama:

Servicemen don't get kicked out because of their gang affiliation, but the pattern of misconduct caused by a "thug" mentality, and their actions cause this. You were in the Navy, so you're well aware of Non-judicial punishments for petty bullshit, and slap-on-the-wrist violations. Just recently there was a Marine who got kicked out because he wanted to act like the same knucklehead he was prior to enlisting. He got into constant fights, hauled off by the MPs on several different occasions, shoplifting, etc; all the same petty crimes that your young, dumb, local 'gang member' would commit. One thing that struck me as fcuking absurd was when he said to a Colonel at his Court Martial, "I'mma just go back to LA wit' the Pyrus 'cause that's where my family is." He had a better chance of walking around Iraq with a target on his head.

Well... in the investigation report, they don't act like thugs in service. But there's been cases of gang graffiti and gang signs. On top of that.. supposedly over seas there's been cases of which rival gangs get into fights at clubs.

But I understand what you're sayin. If they act out obliviously... then obviously they're gonna deal with consequences.

[*Steven*]

Brandon doesn't know anything about overseas soldiers.

[illriginal]

Brandon doesn't know anything about overseas soldiers.

I almost felt he didn't know anything about the Military since he was tellin people to disregard the article lol.

You can do a search on "gangs in the u.s. military" and you'll find thousands of leads. Throw in "FBI" into the search and it'll be more thorough and informative.

[*Steven*]

No I'm just kidding he's stationed in Japan.

[pandora]

Topic Split.

[illriginal]

So yeah.. I predict a revolutionary war where men will turn on their own men and country. What do you think could prevent it?

[*Steven*]

Porn.

[illriginal]

Porn.

wwwww

[*Steven*]

wc

[illriginal]

wc

<,< I wish America could label our restrooms "WC" instead of "restroom" =\

[*Steven*]

Nah that would be interpreted as a boiler room or something

[illriginal]

Nah that would be interpreted as a boiler room or something

BR=Bathroom=Boiler Room? o.o;

[*Steven*]

Water Closet sounds more like a boiler room than a bathroom does. Bathrooms are tied in with having a toilet/bath in the same room, often times.

[*Steven*]

HAY TRISH COULD YOU MAKE A NEW TOPIC FOR THIS SPAM PLZKTHX GET RIGHT ON IT!

[illriginal]

HAY TRISH COULD YOU MAKE A NEW TOPIC FOR THIS SPAM PLZKTHX GET RIGHT ON IT!

Yeah split it into a debate thread too... we're debating water closets and bathrooms!!

[fameONE]

So yeah.. I predict a revolutionary war where men will turn on their own men and country. What do you think could prevent it?

Blunts and 40 water?

[illriginal]

Blunts and 40 water?

That'll work
They'll be high and lazy