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dannyt
post Feb 25 2008, 11:23 PM
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When I lived in Canada it was illegal for me to administer corporal punishment
to my stepson Rory because he was over the age of 12. So when his brother Daniel
was spanked when they both got caught stealing I was angry with the state.
I was also unable to use a paddle or any other implement. I had to use my hand
which isnt really suitable on a boy of 11. What a joke. I'm so glad that we no
longer live there. And at 14 boys can legally have sex. What is the World coming
to?
 
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 11:28 PM
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I think at 12, the boy is a little too old for spanking. It's time to use big boy words.
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 11:29 PM
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what tha....idk sounds like a good rule if it kept u from using a paddle on your stepson
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:19 AM
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Do you not believe in corporal punishment then Hyperspeed or are you just saying that spanking is the wrong word to use?
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:20 AM
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:22 AM
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Bags of milk?
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(dannyt @ Feb 26 2008, 01:19 AM) *
Do you not believe in corporal punishment then Hyperspeed or are you just saying that spanking is the wrong word to use?

maybe for like a 6 yr old but when they are of that age u can just take away things that they like or things they like to do instead of spanking them
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:29 AM
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:56 AM
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I hardly call mild corporal punishment sexual abuse. I'm against unclothed CP as it's inapropriate. Not including my responses I've only have two topics. Having said the unfair Canada laws in which
sex was mentioned it gave me an idea for another topic.

Hardly makes me a pervert.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 01:02 AM
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post Feb 26 2008, 01:17 AM
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From personal experience, being the little shit that I was at that age, a spanking does absolutely nothing. Would you expect to get spanked as a grown man for wrongdoings? Its time to transition your boys into adulthood.

Just because a young teenager can have sex at 14, doesn't mean he will. I didn't at that age. Then again, you can't control a free mind, no matter how hard you try. Its better to teach them how to conduct themselves as young men, regarding relationships, than getting angry at the state.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 01:24 AM
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although having sex at 14 sounds absurd, only the retarded little teenagers actually do it, most of us are smarter than what teens are portrayed as.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 01:38 AM
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Corporal punishment shouldn't only be used to prevent sin but to punish.
I do not give CP every time they do wrong. Stealinig is serious and I believe
like many people that CP is a suitable punishment.

Adults should receive CP too(i.e. Murderers, rapists), not just children.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 01:57 AM
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Is mild corporal punishment that does not involve striking the unclothed seat sexual abuse? According to some it does. I'm not suggesting that a bare button hiding is sexual abuse, just wrong. Smacking the very young is wrong.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(dannyt @ Feb 26 2008, 12:56 AM) *
I hardly call mild corporal punishment sexual abuse. I'm against unclothed CP as it's inapropriate. Not including my responses I've only have two topics. Having said the unfair Canada laws in which
sex was mentioned it gave me an idea for another topic.

Hardly makes me a pervert.


It's not that its sexually related, it's just that everyone has been up and arms about the indecent exposure of children. If you think about it, kids have been getting married very young for thousands of years. It's nothing new.

I'm really not against "unclothed CP." For one it hurts less, and God Damnit it's your own kid. Who cares if it's unclothed? It's not in a sexual nature. Honeslty, I think government gets into places it shouldn't.

I'm for CP. You know, it doesn't work on every kid, but not every kid is the same. Everyone just needs to mind their own f**king business and let parents raise their kids the way they see fit. It's not the governments job to tell us how to raise our kids. All they need to be there for is protection.

Has any one ever seen iRobot? You know how at the end of the movie the computer won't allow any one to do as they used to because logically "she" thought it was unsafe for them? Well, that's how I see the government turning.

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Are you serious? Law or not, most kids are now losing their virginity around sixteen or seventeen. And in later years it will probably get lower.

dannyt
CP would do nothing for adults. We already know what will come from our actions. Children do not. That's why sometimes they need more than words to persuade them. And please tell me...how is unclothed CP inappropriate? I mean, if that is the case, then so is bathing them, and changing them, and everything else that involves nudity of that child.

Heathasm
Wrong. Kids are smarter than we give them credit for. We are survivalists by nature, and children will figure ways out to get what they want. I honestly think Danny did the right thing. Yeah, the kid is twelve, but anything less would just be a slap on the wrist. Boredom sucks, but not that badly.

Steven
Steven. For real, buddy. Let's grow up. The first two topics that I looked through, I've seen posts from you that only involved spamming. I'm not trying to call you out on this, but only to remind you that you're an official member. How? I don't know, but grow up dude. If you're going to spam let's actually put forth to the topic. Thanks.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 06:23 AM
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" How is unclothed CP inappropriate? I mean, if that is the case, then so is bathing them, and changing them, and everything else that involves nudity of that child "

Administering corporal punishment to the bare seat is not required.
You can simply deliver heavier swats or use a paddle (etc.) if it's legal.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 07:45 AM
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i believe in corporal punishment. as a child (defined as 12 and under), i received a handful of it, only when i did something incredibly stupid/inappropriate and deserving of that punishment. i personally think it works, but sure, it would also depend on how the child reacts to the punishment, the values the family imposes on the child, the environment of the household when a child is not being punished, blah blah insert more crap here.

i mean of course if a child is consistently being smacked around for no good reason (define: "good reason"), that's not gonna do shit. i wouldn't even call that punishment; a parent shouldn't enjoy hitting their child. thus, an explanation should be given to the child to explain the punishment 'cause, let's face it, some kids out there are dumbasses ;X. har, but seriously, it also gives the parents the chance to let the kid know that they are doing this for the child's benefit. enter: communication.

the less angry you are as a parent while punishing a child, the better. some people just can't seem to handle their anger, and they end up going all out on a child, totally forgetting that it's supposed to benefit the him/her. also, if the household environment is unhealthy or dangerous for the child's well-being to begin with, then s/he obviously wouldn't respond to the punishment.

i guess in the eyes of some people it is a little extreme, but i'd rather take this extreme than the other extreme of spoiling a child. the middle ground would be if talking alone would be enough to mold a child's character and behavior, but i rarely see that working nowadays, what with all these children running around acting like little dipshits.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 08:13 AM
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It's best to use psychological punishment, it lasts forever. shifty.gif
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(resplendence @ Feb 25 2008, 08:28 PM) *

I think at 12, the boy is a little too old for spanking. It's time to use big boy words.


Lol. Not True. I still get ownd every so often by my mom.

And personally, I don't think I'll ever see my child as too old to be reprimanded. I'm convinced that good old fashioned ass whoopage will be a forever type of thing for them.

I'm totally prepared to beat the living shit out of my 16 year old child if they see fit to be high school alcoholic (and by that, I mean even one freakin sip >>;;;).

It's effective. If I look back on how I was raised, sure I got ownd, by I never saw it as abuse or anything even close to that. I knew I was getting ownd because I did something wrong -- which is completely irrelevant to age. 13-16 was the time I got ownd the most for having a foul and free mouth when fighting with my parents. :X

It's the way its delivered and the general environment of a person's home that really dictates how mentally damaging corporal punishment is, if at all.

If your child knows you love them, and they know exactly why they're getting ownd, it evens out.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 05:55 PM
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It gets out of hand to often to be used. I'm shocked whenever I see someone beating a child. I feared my father because he was prone to hit us rather than listen to him and learn from him. I saw no knowledge being shared through physical pain.

Whatever.
 
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QUOTE(ersatz @ Feb 26 2008, 05:55 PM) *
It gets out of hand to often to be used. I'm shocked whenever I see someone beating a child. I feared my father because he was prone to hit us rather than listen to him and learn from him. I saw no knowledge being shared through physical pain.

Whatever.


Maybe that's why some people feel it's wrong. Hmm. Or the fact that their parents abused their children and now any form of physical discipline is seen as wrong in their eyes.

But it really does work. It's a simple system, and probably the easiest. Okay, my kid did something wrong. Time to f**k him up and make sure that he will never do it again.

I mean, if you think about it, the harsher the punishment, the less likely they will do the wrong-doing. Alot of Middle Eastern countries cut off the hands of theives so as not to steal anymore. It makes perfect sense.

 
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QUOTE(dannyt @ Feb 26 2008, 01:38 AM) *
Adults should receive CP too(i.e. Murderers, rapists), not just children.

So, on your list of people that you believe should receive corporal punishment are murderers, rapists, and children? i little odd to group children with these kinds of people, no?

i agree that spanking hardly does anything. there are other ways in which you can show your kids that what they did was wrong. and if they already know what they did was wrong, then whats the point of punishing them? what happened, happened.
 
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QUOTE(dannyt @ Feb 26 2008, 02:38 PM) *
Adults should receive CP too(i.e. Murderers, rapists), not just children.

You should move to Singapore then. They'll thrash you.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 07:41 PM
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I'm not comparing rapists and murderers to children misbehaving.
Children (unless they are wicked) do not deserve severe corporal punishment, the same can't be said to murderers and rapists.
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 08:14 PM
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I don't know. I'm really against spanking or hitting children or anyone as a form of discipline. There are other ways to teach them, why resort to hitting them? Its just not right. Even if it is your own child. As for sex, you can't really control that. Is the government really gonna smash down the walls and arrest a teen couple for having sex in private?
 

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