I'll sell you my kidney, mang Options

[pandora]

Should there be compensation for organ donation?

[Simba]

If the doctor's be making all this money off doing this operation that involves my kidney, an essential to the operation... I think my kidney should definitely count for something. =P


In quick shallow thinking.

You're really rollin' with these debate topics. +1

[pandora]

Thanks, I kept seeing the same shit over and over. I had to do something.


Anyway, disregarding the fact that it would defeat the purpose of it being a "donation," I think that there should be SOME kind of compensation if I'm going to give you my kidney. I don't know if the patient should be the one compensating - but I should get something from the state or SOMETHING.

[Simba]

Have there been cases of people actually selling their kidneys, officially? I only been hearing 'bout organ donations, rather than someone having a kidney and selling it, and someone buying it to use. 'Scuse my ignorance if I missed on something obvious in the medical system.

[pandora]

You can buy organs off the black market, illegally.


(after some research)

But as far as legally getting an organ, you are put on the UNOS (United Network for Organ Sharing) waiting list, and your request is marked down to the very second (or even more granular than that, I think - it might be to the very half-second). Other factors that determine where you're placed on the list obviously depend on your condition and the amount of urgency there is to get you the organ you need before you die.

The only thing you CAN be compensated for are the following:
Plasma, platelets, and hair - oh and sperm.

[DoubleJ]

Heck yeah we should be compensated. I think that a person should get like 50, 000 dollars or something. The same amount that a person pays to adopt a child, should be the same amount being paid to get organs.

[Simba]

Ha, if we can get compensation on hair and sperm and ish, which are both a lot easier to acquire than kidneys and what not, it sounds pretty logical to get compensation for kidneys as well. Unless of course I'm missing on something.

There's those guys that get paid generously for killin' babies, yet we can't get a dime for helping someone live a little longer than a minute?

(I'm sure there's some rich mutha suckas out there that'd pay for a good kidney, rather than wait on a list.)

[DoubleJ]

Indeed. I mean I would give my organ for free to somebody close to me, or a firefighter, but anybody else will have to pay.

[brooklyneast05]

^why would you need to be compensated? you aren't being FORCED to give it to them.

[pandora]

i'm not being forced to sell people websites, but i still get paid for it. i put my kidney at a much higher value than a website, tbh.

[brooklyneast05]

no one needs your website to live.

[pandora]

EVERYONE DOES.

[brooklyneast05]

so then all the rich people get organs than and it's just too bad so sad for the ones who can't afford it? there life isn't important since you can't get money out of it.

[pandora]

well i did say i think the state should pay for it - not the patients themselves.

it should at least be a huge tax write off or something.

[brooklyneast05]

i don't know, there's something i find fundamentally wrong with this. then again, i just can't comprehend why someone wouldn't give their organs to someone who needs them if they don't.

[Simba]

i don't know, there's something i find fundamentally wrong with this.

What about with the donations that you can already get compensation for, i.e. hair, sperm, whatever else was listed above? Guess just wondering what you find fundamentally wrong once it triggers in your mind.

[brooklyneast05]

What about with the donations that you can already get compensation for, i.e. hair, sperm, whatever else was listed above? Guess just wondering what you find fundamentally wrong once it triggers in your mind.

hmmmm ehhhhh i don't find those the same because nobody needs that hair to live.

i wouldn't want compensation for my hair. then again who wants a black guys 2 millimeter hair anyway?


i duno, i'm trying to put my finger on what i find wrong about this. it's difficult. i know, but i don't know.

[pandora]

people need blood to live

[brooklyneast05]

i duno, i'm trying to put my finger on what i find wrong about this. it's difficult. i know, but i don't know.

[LoveToMySilas]

I kinda think it defeats the whole purpose of "donating" but money is the source of everything these days so, eh, sure why not.

[ersatz]

Perhaps J.C. is hesitant to agree for compensation because donating organs involves surgery. If there was compensation involved, many poor people would undergo dangerous surgery just to get some money, and perhaps they would do this a bit too often. No, you may not NEED this one kidney, but it is quite nice to have it. Donating blood requires just a bit of your time, and if you're small, you might pass out, but it generally does not require too much of a hassle, and your body can recreate that lost blood. Donating hair is nothing; just go into the hair salon and cut it off, and again, you will naturally get it back. Donating organs is surgery -- it's dangerous, it requires recovery, it alters your own body.

[NoSex]

You're really rollin' with these debate topics. +1

Thanks, I kept seeing the same shit over and over. I had to do something.

Word.

[brooklyneast05]

Perhaps J.C. is hesitant to agree for compensation because donating organs involves surgery. If there was compensation involved, many poor people would undergo dangerous surgery just to get some money, and perhaps they would do this a bit too often. No, you may not NEED this one kidney, but it is quite nice to have it. Donating blood requires just a bit of your time, and if you're small, you might pass out, but it generally does not require too much of a hassle, and your body can recreate that lost blood. Donating hair is nothing; just go into the hair salon and cut it off, and again, you will naturally get it back. Donating organs is surgery -- it's dangerous, it requires recovery, it alters your own body.

^yes, i would be concerned with that


i think i'm just confused on this whole debate. i'm not sure if we're trying to talk about organs that you give while you are alive or after you are dead. at first i was thinking trish was saying that if you signed up to donate your organs when you died, you would get paid compensation straight up when you signed up for it. which i still can't fathom why someone wouldn't sign up to donate their organs once they are dead.

on the other hand, i guess if there were compensation there would be more incentive to donate. more donated organs would mean more people got them.

i don't know, i'm still against it for now, until i hear more that would fix all the kinks.

[*yrrnotelekktric*]

I think there should be some compensation. I mean yeah, it would defeat the purpose of "donating", but if i were donating something (although i probably wouldn't, depending on the situation), i would want to receive something in return. but hey, that`s just me.

[DoubleJ]

^why would you need to be compensated? you aren't being FORCED to give it to them.

It was meant to be funny.