Alice in Wonderland, Tim Burton style |
 Feb 11 2008, 07:12 PM
Post
#1
|
|
 Tick tock, Bill  Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948  |
Ok. I know a lot of you love Tim Burton and I'm really happy for you, truly.
Me? I want him nowhere near Alice in Wonderland. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/1689311/ |
|
|
|
 |
Replies
(1 - 99)
|
Feb 11 2008, 07:21 PM
Post
#2
|
|
 An original Harry Potter fan Group: Official Member Posts: 1,469 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 552,023 |
 I am with you on that.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 08:24 PM
Post
#3
|
|
|
t-t-t-toyaaa Group: Official Member Posts: 19,821 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,270 |
Oh wow. This is going to be interesting.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 09:16 PM
Post
#4
|
|
 in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! f**king, no! |
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 09:44 PM
Post
#5
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 307 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 598,634 |
QUOTE Oh wow. This is going to be interesting. That's all I can say too. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 09:55 PM
Post
#6
|
|
 <joke> inside </joke> Group: Official Member Posts: 2,283 Joined: Oct 2006 Member No: 470,590 |
i say LET TIM BURTON MESS WITH ALICE
never really liked that book/movie/ classic whatever thing you wanna call it. i think time burton would make it cool |
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 10:39 PM
Post
#7
|
|
 DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
Alice in Wonderland is a trippy, trippy story. I'll give Tim Burton props on his older stuff, but NO. That's a classic story, so any remake will probably not justify remaking it.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 10:46 PM
Post
#8
|
|
 Potato Admirer Group: Member Posts: 90 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 620,398 |
I gotta say, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory suckedddddd.
I think someone needs to do Alice in Wonderland though, the way it was meant to be. But I dunno.. And Tim Burton made Batman Batman. I dunnooooo.. maybe |
|
|
|
|
Feb 11 2008, 11:40 PM
Post
#9
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(karmakiller @ Feb 11 2008, 09:39 PM)  I'll give Tim Burton props on his older stuff, but NO. Tim Burton didn't direct A Nightmare Before Christmas. Henry Selick (James and the Giant Peach) did. Give proper props, dammit! |
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 02:59 AM
Post
#10
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 08:16 PM) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! f**king, no! ha. I had a similar reaction. Mine was more, "Go away, go away, GO AWAY!!!" |
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 02:00 PM
Post
#11
|
|
 Death is a promise given to us at birth Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,757 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,459 |
he has to do it. Can you imagine what he could he do to it?
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 02:18 PM
Post
#12
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
QUOTE(moorepocket @ Feb 12 2008, 01:00 PM) he has to do it. Can you imagine what he could he do to it? Yeah, I can. Which is precisely WHY I don't want him near it. He'll do the Nighmare Before Christmas-esque thing again and I think this classic deserves something different, something more. It deserves to not be the typical and predictable regurgitated material Tim Burton so desperately clings to. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 04:58 PM
Post
#13
|
|
 That's what she said. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,559 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,200 |
NONONONONONO!!! I like my Alice in Wonderland the way it is! No offense, but every single one of his movies involve death.
 NOOO!
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 06:38 PM
Post
#14
|
|
 Member Group: Member Posts: 27 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 620,607 |
What are you guys talking about? You know that Tim Burton will make this into another one of his master pieces! C'mon, give it a try!
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 06:44 PM
Post
#15
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(kirrawee @ Feb 12 2008, 05:38 PM) What are you guys talking about? You know that Tim Burton will make this into another one of his master pieces! C'mon, give it a try! Like Beetlejuice, and Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Un-f**king-likely. Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since I could take a shit on my own. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 06:46 PM
Post
#16
|
|
|
Member Group: Member Posts: 27 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 620,607 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 12 2008, 06:44 PM) Like Beetlejuice, and Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Un-f**king-likely. Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since I could take a shit on my own. But but but.. sweeney todd was amazing. 
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 06:48 PM
Post
#17
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Head Staff Posts: 18,173 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 108,478 |
I'm interested to see how it'll turn out. I'm neutral since I'm not his biggest fan, nor do I hate his work.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 06:54 PM
Post
#18
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(kirrawee @ Feb 12 2008, 05:46 PM) sweeney todd was amazing. I heard the music sucked anus. But, I avoided it simply because I saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in theaters, and that was my last straw. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 12 2008, 06:57 PM
Post
#19
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
Just had this strange visual of Johnny Depp playing the Mad Hatter and Helena Bonham Carter playing the Red Queen.
*twitches* |
|
|
|
|
Feb 13 2008, 01:21 PM
Post
#20
|
|
 Addict Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,918 Joined: Jun 2007 Member No: 538,522 |
Ahaha, so long as Burton doesn't play the same olds I think this project could be pretty good.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 13 2008, 04:22 PM
Post
#21
|
|
 Ms. Granger Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 735 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 165,238 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 11 2008, 08:16 PM) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! f**king, no! x 2 |
|
|
|
|
Feb 13 2008, 08:56 PM
Post
#22
|
|
|
That's what she said. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,559 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,200 |
He directed Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Hm...alright then thats different. If he's planning to use actual people, then it may not be so bad. If its in cartoon, forget it.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 15 2008, 10:10 AM
Post
#23
|
|
 James killed the radio star. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,095 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 589,855 |
This angers me. I'll see it for the purpose of being snobby and outraged, but still.
This angers me. Shotgun playing the March Hare, though. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 21 2008, 04:47 PM
Post
#24
|
|
 Yawn Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,530 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,772 |
He could probably do a real interesting twist to an already messed up fairy tale. What's the worst that can happen? He'll screw it up, and people won't like it, or think it's too dark or something?
If they feel that way, they can not watch the movie, or just go back to the original. Personally, i think it'd be interesting to see Tim Burton have a go at the movie. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 21 2008, 04:48 PM
Post
#25
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 734 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 278,251 |
He's just going to make more weird and dark than it needs to be.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 01:59 AM
Post
#26
|
|
 cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
OMG i was totally thinking of this like 3 weeks ago. and alternate version of alice of wonderland,
several years ago they made a PC game called alice i think, it was like a horror game but based off of alice in wonderland. i totally would see this, but tim burton, ehhhh, maybe. I want it scary and creepy though. not psycho like willy wonka factory |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 02:39 AM
Post
#27
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(BunkyWhiteGirl @ Feb 21 2008, 03:48 PM) He's just going to make more weird and dark than it needs to be. Where the f**k are all these "weird" and "dark" Burton films everyone keeps talking about? Like, do you guys just sit inside all the time watching afternoon television? Wait, the f**k would that do?! Afternoon TV is darker and weirder than Tim Burton... f**k! Maybe, before I could feed myself, Burton was a bit "dark" and "weird," but, even then, he was nothing in comparison to Cronenberg, Lynch, Franco, Haneke, or a million other well established directors. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 02:44 AM
Post
#28
|
|
 creepy heather Group: Official Member Posts: 4,208 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,580 |
calm down its not a catastrophe. tim burton movies aren't that bad. i see them at least once and there are some i watch more than once.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 03:13 AM
Post
#29
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(Heathasm @ Feb 22 2008, 01:44 AM) calm down its not a catastrophe. I prefer to be unruly - it's more fun and definitely a lot more interesting. Tim Burton can suck my ass, that f**king hack. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 08:40 AM
Post
#30
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 40 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 622,693 |
I actually think it'll be pretty interesting. I thought that (as far as animated films go...) The Corpse Bride was pretty good and if you separate his Charlie and the Chocolate Factory from the original version (i.e. dont even try to compare Johnny Depp's Wonka with Gene Wilder's) it was also a fairly decent film.
I definitly can't wait to see a dark + twisty Alice and Wonderland
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 01:17 PM
Post
#31
|
|
 Communication breakdown. Group: Member Posts: 603 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 552,691 |
Don't hurt me, but I think it would be interesting to see what he comes out with. Alice in Wonderland is one of my favorite movies and it's so trippy...he could do a lot with it.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 01:29 PM
Post
#32
|
|
|
cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 22 2008, 03:13 AM) I prefer to be unruly - it's more fun and definitely a lot more interesting. Tim Burton can suck my ass, that f**king hack. are you majoring in film biz? your very opinionated and know a lot about movies.... just wondering, your very passionate in your posts lol. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 01:36 PM
Post
#33
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
QUOTE(pandamonium @ Feb 22 2008, 12:29 PM) are you majoring in film biz? your very opinionated and know a lot about movies.... just wondering, your very passionate in your posts lol. Nah, he's just an arrogant dick. (just kidding, Nate) :P |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 02:50 PM
Post
#34
|
|
|
creepy heather Group: Official Member Posts: 4,208 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,580 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 22 2008, 04:13 AM) I prefer to be unruly - it's more fun and definitely a lot more interesting. good enough for me |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 05:59 PM
Post
#35
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(pandamonium @ Feb 22 2008, 12:29 PM) are you majoring in film biz? your very opinionated and know a lot about movies.... just wondering, your very passionate in your posts lol. Unfortunately, no. I'm going to be majoring in philosophy. I might minor in some sort of film studies, but I'm really not entirely sure what all I want to do. But, I love film, and I make it an effort to be passionate about those things that I love. QUOTE(superstitious @ Feb 22 2008, 12:36 PM) Nah, he's just an arrogant dick. (just kidding, Nate) :P Yes, ahhh ha ha! |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 06:47 PM
Post
#36
|
|
 Free the Caged Bird. Let it Sing. Group: Member Posts: 168 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 622,056 |
Charlie and the Chocolate factory was terrible, yes....but what was wrong with Sweeney Todd? Personally, I thought that movie was amazing and I went and saw it twice.
Who else could do Alice justice? I mean, Tim Burton is pretty weird. Alice in Wonderland is pretty weird. Seems like a good match to me. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 22 2008, 11:15 PM
Post
#37
|
|
|
Ms. Granger Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 735 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 165,238 |
No, Tim Burton TRIES to be weird. There's a difference.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 24 2008, 11:56 AM
Post
#38
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 213 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 571,860 |
i don't think you guys understand. alice in wonderland is a satire. the book was written in 1865 poking fun at the government. dont get me wrong, i liked the disney version, but it was never supposed to made into a children's movie. also, i dont think i could stand anymore of these goth wannabes talking about how f**king fantastic and dark tim burton is.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 24 2008, 08:25 PM
Post
#39
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(Miscitta @ Feb 24 2008, 10:56 AM) i don't think you guys understand. alice in wonderland is a satire. the book was written in 1865 poking fun at the government. dont get me wrong, i liked the disney version, but it was never supposed to made into a children's movie. In 1865 I doubt it was ever meant to be turned into any sort of film, let alone a children's movie. But, for me, that's beyond the point. The film(s) and the book are completely different entities, it isn't like an adaptation has to be so similar to its source material in order to be good. Secondly, it isn't like Tim Burton's adaptation will be the second... there are tons and tons of adaptations of Alice in Wonderland. I've seen a few that are weirder and darker, far beyond anything Burton could even ever dream up. So, yeah, Burton sucks. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 25 2008, 04:04 PM
Post
#40
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 213 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 571,860 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 24 2008, 08:25 PM) it isn't like an adaptation has to be so similar to its source material in order to be good. i disagree. almost every time i read a book and then watch a movie, vice versa, i'm disappointed. maybe that's just me. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 25 2008, 11:35 PM
Post
#41
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(Miscitta @ Feb 25 2008, 03:04 PM) i disagree. almost every time i read a book and then watch a movie, vice versa, i'm disappointed. maybe that's just me. Why would anyone aspire to make a film adaptation exactly like a book? I just think it's sort of unimaginative and boring. And, really, what's the point? If the two are "identical," why bother? I suppose I understand it on some points, but, the reality of the matter is that an adapted piece of work is a separate entity in comparison to its source material (to try to argue that point is futile). And, really, they both should be judged independently of one another. I don't give a f**k if something is more like one thing than another... I give a f**k if it's good or not (isn't that what really matters?). |
|
|
|
|
Feb 25 2008, 11:54 PM
Post
#42
|
|
 Quincy Group: Member Posts: 872 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,613 |
Can I just say...
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure was the darkest, most occultish movie I have ever seen. |
|
|
|
| *yrrnotelekktric* |
Feb 25 2008, 11:58 PM
Post
#43
|
|
Guest |
I`ve never even seen the original.
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 26 2008, 10:18 AM
Post
#44
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Feb 25 2008, 10:54 PM) Can I just say... Pee-Wee's Big Adventure was the darkest, most occultish movie I have ever seen. Remember the Alamo, my friend. I respect all opinions, but you will be hard pressed to convince me that Burton is avant garde in any way. I find him trite and a complete bore at this point. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 26 2008, 11:21 AM
Post
#45
|
|
|
Quincy Group: Member Posts: 872 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,613 |
I don't mind Burton so much. But he did Edward Scissorhands and everyone think he is the master of the occult.
HE DIRECTED MARS ATTACKS! I'm sorry he's just not dark at all. Not that I don't love most of his movies. I never really paid any attention to his directing. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 26 2008, 06:22 PM
Post
#46
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 213 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 571,860 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 25 2008, 11:35 PM) Why would anyone aspire to make a film adaptation exactly like a book? I just think it's sort of unimaginative and boring. And, really, what's the point? If the two are "identical," why bother? I suppose I understand it on some points, but, the reality of the matter is that an adapted piece of work is a separate entity in comparison to its source material (to try to argue that point is futile). And, really, they both should be judged independently of one another. I don't give a f**k if something is more like one thing than another... I give a f**k if it's good or not (isn't that what really matters?). i still disagree not matter how much you try to persuade me. i'm going to compare a book to the movie because movies leave a lot of parts out and it makes more sense in the book, no matter how unimaginative and boring it is. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 26 2008, 06:28 PM
Post
#47
|
|
|
Quincy Group: Member Posts: 872 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,613 |
QUOTE(Miscitta @ Feb 26 2008, 06:22 PM) i still disagree not matter how much you try to persuade me. i'm going to compare a book to the movie because movies leave a lot of parts out and it makes more sense in the book, no matter how unimaginative and boring it is. Well books are inherently not cinematic, and movies are inherently not literary. Making a movie exactly like a book is nearly impossible for the pure reason of perspective. Books and their plot, character development, etc, its revealed in a far different way than movies are. Not to mention that books can have plots which are absolutely enthralling while being read, but if put on screen would be terribly boring. It's just not possible. |
|
|
|
|
Feb 26 2008, 06:39 PM
Post
#48
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
Understood that movies will never be an exact replica of a book its based on, but I find myself comparing as well. I'm not overly critical when I compare the two, I just can't help myself.
Small things annoy me, like Faramir and Eowyn getting less screen time when nearly an entire chapter is devoted to them in the LOTR books while Aragorn and Arwen had things literally made up to fill screen time. Again, annoying to me but the movies are still enjoyable to watch. It's a shallow comparison, but my feeble attempt to make a point. I'm able to separate the two mediums enough to enjoy both a book and a film adaptation. That being said, I would rather see someone like Alfonso Cuarón direct an Alice in Wonderland adaptation. |
|
|
|
|
Mar 8 2008, 12:23 AM
Post
#49
|
|
 kthxbai Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,832 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 621,203 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 12 2008, 05:44 PM) Like Beetlejuice, and Pee Wee's Big Adventure? Un-f**king-likely. Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since I could take a shit on my own. rofl. funny ^.^. I can't believe you actually said Beetlejuice was good. It was the worst movie I've ever seen. I even posted it on the "worst movie ever" thread.. --All of tim burton's films SUCK |
|
|
|
|
Mar 11 2008, 06:29 PM
Post
#50
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(emberfly @ Mar 7 2008, 11:23 PM) rofl. funny ^.^. I can't believe you actually said Beetlejuice was good. It was the worst movie I've ever seen. I even posted it on the "worst movie ever" thread.. You've never seen a worse movie than Beetlejuice? Dude, you have no idea. |
|
|
|
|
Mar 11 2008, 08:32 PM
Post
#51
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
Alice in Wonderland was a porn movie as well, and I'm sure it's better than anything Tim Burton can do. I mean, read the plotline!
QUOTE Alice offends her would-be lover William by rejecting his advances. Upset, she falls asleep reading Alice in Wonderland. The white rabbit appears to her in a dream and takes her into a sexual wonderland. The story loosely follows Carroll's original plot, and includes many of his characters, but with considerable sexual license. Oh god, it's a musical even! |
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:27 PM
Post
#52
|
|
 Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
Pics
I just found these don't know how new they are, but I'm not digging the mad hatter look too much |
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 09:35 PM
Post
#53
|
|
 (′ ･ω･｀) Group: Official Designer Posts: 6,179 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 72,477 |
^his yellow eyes.. uhh..
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:31 PM
Post
#54
|
|
 Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,155 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 95,404 |
I saw some of the posters at the movie theatre today.. and omg, I'M SO EXCITED!!!
Johnny Depp looks like Carrot Top and Helena Bonham Carter looks like a caricature LOL. Wicked. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:34 PM
Post
#55
|
|
|
kthxbai Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,832 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 621,203 |
QUOTE(Joanne @ Jun 25 2009, 10:31 PM) I saw some of the posters at the movie theatre today.. and omg, I'M SO EXCITED!!! Johnny Depp looks like Carrot Top and Helena Bonham Carter looks like a caricature LOL. Wicked. I'm excited, too, but those images give me a bad feeling.. :/ I don't see it as being very good. tweedle dee and dum look horrible
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:35 PM
Post
#56
|
|
|
Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
QUOTE(Joanne @ Jun 25 2009, 10:31 PM) I saw some of the posters at the movie theatre today.. and omg, I'M SO EXCITED!!! Johnny Depp looks like Carrot Top and Helena Bonham Carter looks like a caricature LOL. Wicked. lol I know. I love how Tweedledee and Tweedledum look, and the flowers look real sweet. I'm so excited! I wonder what the march hair will look like. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:39 PM
Post
#57
|
|
|
kthxbai Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,832 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 621,203 |
QUOTE(emberfly @ Jun 25 2009, 10:34 PM) tweedle dee and dum look horrible QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jun 25 2009, 10:35 PM) I love how Tweedledee and Tweedledum look LOL 
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 10:47 PM
Post
#58
|
|
|
Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,155 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 95,404 |
QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jun 25 2009, 08:35 PM) lol I know. I love how Tweedledee and Tweedledum look, and the flowers look real sweet. I'm so excited! I wonder what the march hair will look like. Oh man, I didn't even notice the flowers! Damn. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:41 PM
Post
#59
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,614 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,903 |
That should be very very intresting. I would like it to come out just to see if he can pull it off.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:43 PM
Post
#60
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,435 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,205 |
The pictures looked a bit disturbing to me at first, but it's definately creative and interesting. I've never been disappointed by the Tim Burton and Johnny Depp combination before, so I'm excited. The only thing that makes me slightly apprehensive is the fact that I never was a really big fan of Alice in Wonderland.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25 2009, 11:45 PM
Post
#61
|
|
|
Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
I always loved Alice in Wonderland, I just hated how people pass up the opportunity to make it how it should be. Creepy and weird. So I have high hopes for this.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 04:40 PM
Post
#62
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Administrator Posts: 8,629 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 498,468 |
The pictures look so creepy but I want to see it.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 04:58 PM
Post
#63
|
|
 in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
WOW the pictures look stunning!
I think it's only appropriate that Alice in Wonderland be taken to this weird level. The story itself is pretty trippy...hell, even the Disney movie scared me shitless as a kid. Reminds me of the weird movie Through the Looking Glass with Kate Beckinsale as Alice I saw many years ago randomly, on TV. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 26 2009, 11:33 PM
Post
#64
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 1,801 Joined: Aug 2007 Member No: 568,102 |
Dude, I'm f*cking psyched. He's the right kinda crazy to make AIW be the movie of my ecstasy trips.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 28 2009, 05:34 PM
Post
#65
|
|
|
Death is a promise given to us at birth Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,757 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,459 |
rebecaa, didn't you once mentioned that you don't want him to do this?
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 28 2009, 08:19 PM
Post
#66
|
|
 Member Group: Member Posts: 16 Joined: Jun 2009 Member No: 734,882 |
i love me a good ol school tim burton. nah i still like him but whussup wit all the emolove swarm after that one movie, cant think of the name now
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 28 2009, 08:21 PM
Post
#67
|
|
|
Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
Sweeny Todd?
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 28 2009, 09:01 PM
Post
#68
|
|
 here, here, and here Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,301 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 206,103 |
I'm pretty much expecting a lot from this movie. Hope it doesn't let me down.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 30 2009, 08:27 AM
Post
#69
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
QUOTE(moorepocket @ Jun 28 2009, 05:34 PM) rebecaa, didn't you once mentioned that you don't want him to do this? I still don't want him to do this. haha I will admit that Hathaway looks awesome though. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 2 2009, 07:17 PM
Post
#70
|
|
|
Death is a promise given to us at birth Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,757 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,459 |
i can't wait to see this. Helena is totally wicked and in character for this.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 2 2009, 10:14 PM
Post
#71
|
|
|
That's what she said. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,559 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,200 |
Wow, that doesn't even look like Johnny Depp. I nearly forgot how sad I was that Tim Burton decided to remake this.
Hopefully its something like this. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 2 2009, 11:05 PM
Post
#72
|
|
|
Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,155 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 95,404 |
^ Holy hell, that is TWISTED.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 5 2009, 02:25 PM
Post
#73
|
|
 Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,682 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 156,187 |
With Burton there's always a role for Depp and Carter. But I have to admit they do well together. While not all of his films are top notch like always, I look forward to see any of his movies that come out. I never red the book, or seen from start to finish the Disney version of this story.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 09:44 PM
Post
#74
|
|
 poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
So going to go see it <3 |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 09:45 PM
Post
#75
|
|
 Hold my hand lets chase the sun Group: Member Posts: 142 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 48,942 |
LMAO i was just about to post a topic about this!!
but guess you beat me to it ANYWHO! i cannot wait to see this movieee it looks mighty spectacular esp cause its made by the creative genius tim burton. but doesnt alice look a bit old? |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 09:46 PM
Post
#76
|
|
|
poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
Yeah she kinda does
BUT OH WELL! I am so going to go see this. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:34 PM
Post
#77
|
|
|
Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,155 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 95,404 |
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:38 PM
Post
#78
|
|
|
Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
merged
Not what I was hopping for, but still excited. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:49 PM
Post
#79
|
|
|
poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 25 2009, 11:38 PM) merged Not what I was hopping for, but still excited. Its better than what i thought it would be. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:50 PM
Post
#80
|
|
|
kthxbai Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,832 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 621,203 |
QUOTE(Tomates @ Jul 25 2009, 09:44 PM) So going to go see it <3 that trailer was BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:50 PM
Post
#81
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,435 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,205 |
The characters look a lot less stupid when they're actually moving. I was really disturbed by Tweedledum and Tweedledee at first, but they actually looked okay in the trailer.
I don't know, I'm excited. <3 |
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:54 PM
Post
#82
|
|
|
kthxbai Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,832 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 621,203 |
march 5, 2010? O_o geez long way away
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 10:55 PM
Post
#83
|
|
|
Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
I think Tweedledum and Tweedledee look the best. lol So creepy. I don't know. I guess am still waiting for there to a rated R version of Alice in Wonderland.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 25 2009, 11:01 PM
Post
#84
|
|
|
poison Group: Official Member Posts: 4,806 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 629,020 |
QUOTE(emberfly @ Jul 25 2009, 11:50 PM) that trailer was BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. i'm sure there are better ones but i didnt want to waste my time roaming through pages to find the perfect one. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 26 2009, 10:03 AM
Post
#85
|
|
 because i'm worth it Group: Member Posts: 990 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,643 |
I think the guy's a genius, and I would love to see his take on things.
I also agree to those who pointed out that Alice in Wonderland is already a dark and twisted fairy tale, so there really isn't that much to it :) Side note: I'd really like him to see work on The Little Mermaid, considering the original plot was a miserable one... |
|
|
|
|
Jul 26 2009, 10:08 AM
Post
#86
|
|
|
(′ ･ω･｀) Group: Official Designer Posts: 6,179 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 72,477 |
oh i've always hated chesire cat. hate it even more now... it just creeps me out. actually, the whole story does. it makes me feel like im delusional.
which is why i must watch it, it'll be great fun experience |
|
|
|
|
Jul 26 2009, 01:55 PM
Post
#87
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
QUOTE(IWontRapeYou @ Jul 25 2009, 10:55 PM) I think Tweedledum and Tweedledee look the best. lol So creepy. I don't know. I guess am still waiting for there to a rated R version of Alice in Wonderland. There's actually an Alice in Wonderland musical porn flick. Don't ask me how I know about this. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 26 2009, 03:59 PM
Post
#88
|
|
 show me a garden thats bursting to life Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,303 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,987 |
QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 26 2009, 01:55 PM) There's actually an Alice in Wonderland musical porn flick. Don't ask me how I know about this.  I went to go see G-Force in 3D and they showed the trailer for this in 3D as well and HOLY SHIT. AWESOMENESS. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 26 2009, 04:00 PM
Post
#89
|
|
|
Sex, Blood, & RocknRoll Group: People Staff Posts: 5,305 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 596,480 |
QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 26 2009, 01:55 PM) There's actually an Alice in Wonderland musical porn flick. Don't ask me how I know about this. 
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 26 2009, 11:32 PM
Post
#90
|
|
|
Hold my hand lets chase the sun Group: Member Posts: 142 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 48,942 |
QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 26 2009, 01:55 PM) There's actually an Alice in Wonderland musical porn flick. Don't ask me how I know about this. Lmao! Wow. . . I guess they can make a porn out of anything these days. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 27 2009, 11:50 AM
Post
#91
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,435 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,205 |
^I'm assuming you haven't heard of many pornos then.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 28 2009, 02:06 PM
Post
#92
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Sep 2007 Member No: 569,515 |
whoa, looks alright, kind of insane-ish but might be worth it
JD looks crazy & HB looks awesome with that huge head! TB is overrated i agree with that much ...porn? srsly? |
|
|
|
|
Jul 28 2009, 11:37 PM
Post
#93
|
|
 Happy is he who forgets what cannot be changed. Group: Member Posts: 30 Joined: Jan 2009 Member No: 710,028 |
Tim Burton always seems to find a way to amuse me.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 29 2009, 12:14 AM
Post
#94
|
|
 This bitch better work! Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 |
i did watch the trailer.
i must say i'm excited. it does look very dark but it is Tim Burton. I'm so freakin thankful that it's not fully animated!! & johnny depp looks disturbing. Seriously. It creeps me out. Kinda irritated that they already have the teaser trailer out when it's 8 months awayyyyy. :\ EDIT// oh and Alan Rickman (snape from harry potter) is going to play the catapillar while Helena Bonham Carter (bellatrix lestrange from harry potter) will be the Red Queen! :) omggg |
|
|
|
|
Jul 29 2009, 12:25 AM
Post
#95
|
|
|
in a matter of time Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 |
OMG ALAN RICKMAN?!
I am sooo watching this. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 29 2009, 09:20 PM
Post
#96
|
|
|
show me a garden thats bursting to life Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,303 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,987 |
QUOTE(Gigi @ Jul 29 2009, 12:25 AM) OMG ALAN RICKMAN?! I am sooo watching this. LOL I was waiting for this. f*ckyes Alan Rickman! |
|
|
|
|
Jul 30 2009, 11:07 AM
Post
#97
|
|
|
in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
sometimes i really f*cking hate sixteen-year-olds.
newssss flash, tim burton is a hack! |
|
|
|
|
Jul 31 2009, 10:31 AM
Post
#98
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,435 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,205 |
QUOTE(NoSex @ Jul 30 2009, 11:07 AM) sometimes i really f*cking hate sixteen-year-olds. newssss flash, tim burton is a hack! And I hate people who can't step down from their high horse long enough to just sit back and enjoy a flashy movie with little substance once in awhile. The feeling is mutual. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 31 2009, 04:03 PM
Post
#99
|
|
|
Tick tock, Bill Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 |
Eh, kind of have to side with Nate on this (minus hating sixteen year-olds, although I have met some pretty annoying ones haha). There are very few Burton films I enjoy, and it has nothing to do with the lack of content. I mean, I like Xanadu and Clash of the Titans, for goodness sake. I think that he has regurgitated his "material" and "style" so often that I can smell the vomit before entering a movie theater to see a film of his.
That and the whole casting incest he does gets flat out boring. I get it, he loves Johnny and Helena. Both of them, outside of Burton films I like. It's really odd. I also understand that he's not the only director to do this. Apatow constantly re-casts the fam. However, he at least mixes things up by changing lead roles and such. And on a side note, he's getting boring to me now as well for similar reasons. NEW MATERIAL, folks. Please. I just wish that there would be an Alice in Wonderland, grounded in more realism than surrealism. That would make it actually creepy, instead of schtick-y. Lewis Carroll was sort of a creepy dude. We've already seen Alice in Wonderland done via zany. And must I remind people of the tragedy that was Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? OH GOD. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 31 2009, 10:59 PM
Post
#100
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,435 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,205 |
I can completely see why people don't like Tim Burton movies. His movies are all the same in the end. But in his defense, if it ain't broke don't fix it. He's developed a huge fan base and knows that the money will keep rolling in if he feeds people dark fantasy movies with Johnny Depp in them. It may not gain the respect of movie aficionados, but I personally can't blame a guy for wanting make a little money. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm somehow entranced by it every time.
|
|
|
|
 |
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: