Super Tuesday, Oh snap, son. Options

[Simba]

Uh, discuss?


Predictions and such, I suppose.

[Marlons]

I just heard about this on the news, but I wasn't paying attention. what's going down on Super Tuesday?

[lojay]

I just heard about this on the news, but I wasn't paying attention. what's going down on Super Tuesday?

There are going to be 24 of the states voting on the primary on Super Tuesday. It signifies the date that majority, or at least a big amount of the states vote for the primary (I'm pretty sure).


At first I was hoping that Hilary would win the primary so that she would lose the Election in November, but I'm not too sure it will work out that way now. She has a pretty decent chance, which makes me pretty angry because if she can't handle the stress of running in the election, I have no reason to believe that she can handle running the country. But we'll see, Obama isn't that far behind Hilary anyway.

I was for Huckabee, but it seems like he will go downhill tomorrow, and all his votes will probably go to Romney... not too sure how I feel about that since he is mad conservative.

[brooklyneast05]

huckabee doesn't stand a chance. i say he'll take Arkansas, Oklahoma, Alabama, and maybe something else like Tennessee or Georgia. i hope he takes nothing.

edit: i take it back, he prob won't even take that much

[RealTalk]

For the Democrats I'm going to do it by state:
Alabama-Clinton
Alaska- ?
Arizona-Clinton
Arkansas- Clinton
California- Obama (?)
Colorado- Obama (?)
Connecticut- Clinton
Delaware- Clinton
Georgia- Clinton
Idaho- Obama
Illinois- Obama
Kansas- Clinton (?)
Massachusetts- Clinton
Minnesota- Obama
Missouri- Clinton
New Jersey- Clinton
New York- Clinton
New Mexico- ?
North Dakota- Clinton
Oklahoma- Clinton (?)
Tennessee- Clinton
Utah- Clinton

Not completely sure though.

I really don't know about the Republican party because I haven't been following it that closely. Honestly, I think McCain will get the majority of the votes because he's come out as the front runner. Romney just keeps talking about how economics/business is in his "blood". Huckabee I agree won't get much play.

[brooklyneast05]

^i'm thinkin obama will take alaska

[*Steven*]

Iono, I don't pay as much attention to all the states, but I'm hopin Obama comes out on top. I know I'll vote for him.

[RealTalk]

^i'm thinkin obama will take alaska

Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it I think he will too. I didn't want to say because I really didn't know what type of people lived in Alaska, but now that I'm thinking about it I can't see the type(I don't know if that's the right word) of people who usually vote for Hilary Clinton in Alaska.

[Marlons]

Oh okay, well there sure are alot of people voting for Hilary here in Oregon.

[lojay]

huckabee doesn't stand a chance. i say he'll take Arkansas, Oklahoma, Alabama, and maybe something else like Tennessee or Georgia. i hope he takes nothing.

edit: i take it back, he prob won't even take that much

Yeah, I've come to accept that. I'm not too sure who I want to win anymore. My brothers friends are all for Ron Paul, one of them even organized a rally for him in NYC the other night... He is going to get eaten alive. Whatever, I don't even get to vote in the primary anyway. Yay for turning 18 just in time to miss the deadline to register.

[michellerrific]

California, I'm gonna stick with Obama for the Democrats and perhaps Romney will win for the Republicans. About Huckabee, everyone's right, he isn't going to get far anymore; he's in a very distant third. But the margins between Clinton and Obama are could almost be paper thin. Almost.

[*paperplane*]

Yeah, I've come to accept that. I'm not too sure who I want to win anymore. My brothers friends are all for Ron Paul, one of them even organized a rally for him in NYC the other night... He is going to get eaten alive. Whatever, I don't even get to vote in the primary anyway. Yay for turning 18 just in time to miss the deadline to register.

You can register at 17 and a half. Er, here at least. You can register really young in Hawaii too.

[S-Majere]

Super Tuesday = Pancake Day!

[Insurmountable]

I hope Hilary doesn't win >_>

doesn't this kind of fit in news too? current event type of thing?

[jaeman]

Obama '08! I'm not entirely sure who'll win but after about the first few states, we'll start to see who our next President will be. And for the record, I'm a little bit on the Republican side.

[lojay]

You can register at 17 and a half. Er, here at least. You can register really young in Hawaii too.

Haha, yeah, I know. I found that out too late. The day last day to register was the 15th of January, and that was my birthday. I thought I had more time, obviously I was wrong.

[*paperplane*]

That was probably the last days to register for the primaries; you more than likely can register in time for the general election still, assuming that you'll be 18 by November.

I was trying to get my friends registered, and most of them failed to do so by the primary cut off date, but that's alright since they more than likely wouldn't have voted in the primary anyway. Too far to warrant driving home, and I can't imagine they'd have taken the initiative to get an absentee ballot like I did. But since then, I've printed them off registration forms and given them to them, because, uh, I procrastinate a lot and it was something to do that wasn't macroecon.

Anyway, I hope my ballot got there in time, and I wish I had time to watch news coverage tonight.

[jaeman]

I hope Hilary doesn't win >_>

doesn't this kind of fit in news too? current event type of thing?

If she wins, I'm moving to a remote island.

[HakunaMatata]

WHY OH WHY MUST I BE SEVENTEEN AND A HALF TODAY?

*keeps hope for November elections*

*prays Obama gets it*

*prays he chooses Edwards as VP*

Hillary's gonna' take CA, betcha' anything. BITCH. FEST.

[*paperplane*]

Huckabee won West Virginia by a huge margin, which should come as a surprise to no one.

[misoshiru]

i wish i could vote.

[lkajsfklajskds]

this morning the news said McCain was in he lead in the tristate area.
i was like, WTF?!
i expected it to be Hilary or Obama. but..McCain?
but i think the stats have changed..

i wish i could vote.

me too =[

//edit
here is a convo me and my mom had 2 sec. ago:

mom: register me to vote. i want to vote for hilary, she's a girl
me: ....its super tuesday
mom: whats that?

and then i advised her to watch the news (she does, just ironically misses the political things)

Reason for edit: posts merged - jc

[*paperplane*]

...Different parties.

[misoshiru]

i just loled so hard.

[LoveToMySilas]

Although I hear that a lot of people are voting for Obama and Clinton, its already planned out no matter how much we vote who'll be the next president. Its probably not going to be any of the two people America is afraid of change.

[superstitious]

I live in TN. I'm pretty much thinking Obama won't win here. :[

[Melissa]

Clinton's doing better than Obama =/

And wtf, Huckabee in three states? seriously?

[*Steven*]

McCain started losing to Romney, so he told all his people to get out and vote for Huckabee.

[fameONE]

Clinton's doing better than Obama =/

I know, its heart-wrenching.

[brooklyneast05]

[fameONE]

I listened to Rush Limbaugh this morning. As it stands, I don't like Rush Limbaugh at all, but thats another thread in itself. What made me throw up in my mouth a little was that he used the term 'Billary.'

[*paperplane*]

Clinton's doing better than Obama =/

And wtf, Huckabee in three states? seriously?

Hell yeah I live in one of those places.



At least Obama won by a lot here. And I totally could have gone ahead and written my analysis of the Mass. Republican primary, because it turned out pretty much exactly as I expected.

[juliar]

(Oh my god it's Arjuna)

CLINTON WON NEW YORK? WHAAAT??
:( Go Obama?

[Melissa]

^ yeeah.

Oh well.

clinton = crazy
huckabee = crazy
romny = pshh, lol
mccain = old
obama = hot

... it's obvious who we should all vote for. :)

[absinthe]

(Oh my god it's Arjuna)

CLINTON WON NEW YORK? WHAAAT??
:( Go Obama?

HOLY CRAP. Juliar!
Me and Trish were wondering about you.


WHATTT? Why Hilary. :|

[freeflow]

clinton = crazy
huckabee = crazy
romny = pshh, lol
mccain = old
obama = hot

... it's obvious who we should all vote for. :)

at the bold.


Man I wish I could of voted.

[Elba]

Obama's doing pretty well. I'm excited to see who ends up getting the democratic nomination.

[DoubleJ]

Obama has won 12 states, but Hilary has won the ones that will bring the most delegates, i.e. Cali, NJ and like 1 or 2 others. Obama literally destroyed her in Idaho. I will say, that although I am not a Republican, I agree with Romney that Huckabee should just drop out. He is really screwing things up not matter what he wins.

[*paperplane*]

I appreciate that he's still in. He's screwing things up, but he's screwing things up in ways that I find favorable. The more votes from McCain, the better.

[DoubleJ]

Agreed, and I for one commend his perseverance, but with that being said, he should bow out with dignity like Edwards did. He knows that he is not going to win the vote.

[*paperplane*]

Yeah, but Edwards actually wasn't winning any states. If he didn't win his home state, he was sunk. Huckabee had no reason to drop out prior to Super Tuesday, and he didn't have a particularly terrible showing today either. I'm sure it's coming soon, but at least his presence isn't embarrassing. Um. Sort of.

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

I wonder what the odds are that we are going to have a republican president next term....

[DoubleJ]

True indeed, but the man is winning yet he has no money. I want McCain to win as well, but Huckabee isn't doing his party any favors by still running. At least the Democrats got all of their little people out of the way before Super Tuesday. Huckabee is going to have to cave in sooner rather than later.

[libertie]

I'm going to end this ridiculously long day by sleeping in a bad mood. I will wake up tomorrow and hope for a miracle.

[The-March-Hare]

Yeah, but Edwards actually wasn't winning any states. If he didn't win his home state, he was sunk. Huckabee had no reason to drop out prior to Super Tuesday, and he didn't have a particularly terrible showing today either. I'm sure it's coming soon, but at least his presence isn't embarrassing. Um. Sort of.

Mike Huckabee's existence is embarrassing enough.

[HakunaMatata]

^YEAH. But I will admit that if we had a President who's last name was 'Huckabee', we'd seem 10x more friendly 'round the world.

[/idiocy]

WTF at Hilary for having 107 more delegates than Obama. Damn you superdelegate vote. Change your damn minds by August errelse.

Actually, my friend brought up an excellent point I never realized: Obama will run again. Regardless of whether McCain or Hillary (if she gets the Dem Nom) win the Presidential election, Obama is young enough to run again. I mean, if McCain can do it, than why not Obana?

That gives me so much hope. Maybe not for the immediate future (), but hope nonetheless.

[cheerbee07]

What cracks me up is the anti-Hilary McCain ad on this page...lol.

But anyway, I'm really hoping that Obama takes the nomination. I wouldn't McCain so much as president either, if it came to that, but not Hilary. I would cry. Seriously. Regardless, he's not behind by much...

And the WV thing today kind of ticked me off, but then again, maybe I just don't know enough about it.

-----------------

Actually, my friend brought up an excellent point I never realized: Obama will run again. Regardless of whether McCain or Hillary (if she gets the Dem Nom) win the Presidential election, Obama is young enough to run again. I mean, if McCain can do it, than why not Obana?

that's a very good point that I hadn't thought of either...(::ponders::)

[brooklyneast05]

i want obama. i'd take hillary over any republican though.

[superstitious]

I live in TN. I'm pretty much thinking Obama won't win here. :[

As I was saying... =/

[*paperplane*]

Mike Huckabee's existence is embarrassing enough.

Hence the "um sort of."

[*Steven*]

i want obama. i'd take hillary over any republican though.

I don't like anyone this year, really, but I'd prefer Obama over anyone else (that has a chance of winning).

[dannyordinary]

Hilary won in MA..eww

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

f**k hilary won

[*paperplane*]

Won...what?

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

EVERYTHINGGGGGG



btw this is sicknasty!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ZkEFUlvcU

[*Steven*]

nah that primary was just for like 22 states, plenty more to go to hopefully beat out billary.

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

Nah, super delegates help her smash on Obama sadly.

[fameONE]

nah that primary was just for like 22 states, plenty more to go to hopefully beat out billary.

Stop using the B-word. Damn.

I'm concerned, because of Clinton wins, it'll probably be a n 8 year stint, opening the door for a republican to take her place afterward. And right now, the Bush family has a menacing foundation in politics.

[RealTalk]

I'm scared if Hilary wins the democratic nomination McCain will win the presidency. I could see a truck load of republicans voting against Hilary just because they really don't like her.

[*Steven*]

Stop using the B-word. Damn.

I'm concerned, because of Clinton wins, it'll probably be a n 8 year stint, opening the door for a republican to take her place afterward. And right now, the Bush family has a menacing foundation in politics.

Gotta love how politics revolve around three families...

[fameONE]

Gotta love how politics revolve around three families...

Conspiracies, anyone?

[*Steven*]

Idno. I think people form their loyalties and then don't feel like messing w/ change (OH NOES CHANGE) so they stick with a name they know or have liked in the past.

[*paperplane*]

Conspiracies, anyone?

Mhm.

[HakunaMatata]

So like, if Hilary wins, the Presidency went Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton?

IluhvyouCanada, takemeifshewins.

[fameONE]

So like, if Hilary wins, the Presidency went Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton?

IluhvyouCanada, takemeifshewins.

Yes, and on top of that, Jeb Bush is being groomed for this sort of gig as we speak.

[*paperplane*]

*shoots self*

[*Steven*]

Yes, and on top of that, Jeb Bush is being groomed for this sort of gig as we speak.

I think I dislike him more so than Georgie.

[*paperplane*]

I think the idea of anyone voting for another Bush makes me ill.

[*Steven*]

What would be scary is if they get exponentially worse from George Senior > George H > Jeb

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

I'm scared if Hilary wins the democratic nomination McCain will win the presidency. I could see a truck load of republicans voting against Hilary just because they really don't like her.

Uhm, ANY republican will vote against Hilary cause shes a DEMOCRAT. Any the chances of the republican party winning is slim to none.

[*Steven*]

Yeah the Republicans aren't exactly popular right now. Maybe they'll be desired once the Democrats are done w/ their thing, but I don't think that a republican will be elected. That and the republican candidates suck. That's why I'm voting Obama (in hopes of defeating Billary).

[fameONE]

Damn it, Steven, must you reference that monster as Billary?

[DoubleJ]

Billary FTW! Hillary is just the pawn so that Bill can regain control of the white house.

[*Steven*]

Nah, Bill will just chase the interns around.

[RealTalk]

Uhm, ANY republican will vote against Hilary cause shes a DEMOCRAT. Any the chances of the republican party winning is slim to none.

Maybe I should've explained myself better. If Obama won the nomination rather than Hilary, it would be more likely Obama would win the presidency rather than McCain because Republicans can stand Obama a bit more they can Hilary. If Hilary won the nomination it would be more likely should would loose because most Republicans have this huge hate for her. Thus when Republicans vote they'd vote for McCain just to spite Hilary.

All I'm saying is with Hilary as the nomination it would be more likely McCain would win thus another Republican in office.

[*paperplane*]

Romney's dropped out. McCain's going to get the nomination. Uh, that's delightful. I'm praying for this to dissatisfy conservatives enough that there's a real break in the party, a third party to be really divisive, perhaps?

*despairs*

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

Maybe I should've explained myself better. If Obama won the nomination rather than Hilary, it would be more likely Obama would win the presidency rather than McCain because Republicans can stand Obama a bit more they can Hilary. If Hilary won the nomination it would be more likely should would loose because most Republicans have this huge hate for her. Thus when Republicans vote they'd vote for McCain just to spite Hilary.

All I'm saying is with Hilary as the nomination it would be more likely McCain would win thus another Republican in office.

Wtf, why should it matter if its Obama or Hilary if you're a republican. You're going to vote for Mccain either way.

Oh and btw, I'm just going to say, there is about 0.000001% chance that the republicans will win when it comes November.

[*paperplane*]

Please stop posting. The ignorant, rash conclusions that you're drawing are killing me.

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

Man, thats too bad.

[*paperplane*]

Yeah. I do pity stupid people.

[RealTalk]

Wtf, why should it matter if its Obama or Hilary if you're a republican. You're going to vote for Mccain either way.

Oh and btw, I'm just going to say, there is about 0.000001% chance that the republicans will win when it comes November.

Are you serious?

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

Yeah. I do pity stupid people.

Its pretty pathetic to pity yourself, but whatever floats your boat.

Are you serious?

Yes.

[*paperplane*]

Fail.

[YaGurlSukedMe2SL...]

Usually a picture follows up, so let me help.




But whatever makes you happy eh?

[salcha4u]

Actually, I didn't. But I was a poll election officer and I was bored out of my mind.

click to enlarge

I think like...100 of those went to Clinton. :/ Yes we had to count all the stupid ballots. GOD AND WE'RE UNDERPAID TOO!!!

[kryogenix]

Obama is unelectable due to his extreme stances on issues such as abortion. I can't wait to see him try to explain why he voted against the partial birth abortion ban in front of a crowd that doesn't consist entirely of the BAAAAA BAAAAAAAA OBAAAAAAAMA sheep. Or try to explain how he has more absent/nonvotes in the senate than Hilary Clinton despite being in the senate only half as long. The only reason he's even relevant at this time is he ran against a poorly conducted Illinois Republican Senatorial campaign, where the original guy had to drop out and they drafted who to run against him... Alan Keyes.

(Not that I'm totally against what Alan Keyes stands for, but let's face it, he has a terrible track record as a politician, he's a black conservative so he can't even count on the black vote, he can't raise any money, and he's probably better off getting his old cable opinion news show back.)

Hilary Clinton will probably get the nomination, but is unelectable because she's Hilary Clinton.

I'm not sure if I'd vote for McCain, but he's tolerable, at least compared to Hilary and Obama. I could see him taking Huckabee as his running mate, assuming he wins. Again, not a ticket I'm excited to vote for, but there's plenty of time to think about it.

If things keep going the way they are, we're going to see another Republican in the White House. The Dems lost the White House because they passed stupid bullshit like the Federal AWB, something which house Democrats warned Bill Clinton of when it was still a bill. In the two years that they've regained control of Congress, they've been too much of pussies to get anything done and prove to America that they deserve there, instead choosing to spend their time voting on more vacation days and non binding resolutions that do absolutely nothing.

Not to mention the only reason the Dems regained control in the first place was because they ran moderate to conservative people, like Bob Casey Jr. of Pennsylvania. If they're going to nominate extreme people like Obama, who is even further left than NARAL Pro Choice America and his own party leadership (Clinton is not that far behind herself), they can kiss the moderates goodbye just like they did in 1996.

[brooklyneast05]

Obama is unelectable due to his extreme stances on issues such as abortion. I can't wait to see him try to explain why he voted against the partial birth abortion ban in front of a crowd that doesn't consist entirely of the BAAAAA BAAAAAAAA OBAAAAAAAMA sheep.

most partial birth abortions are done for medical reasons anyway. if my wife's life was in danger because of medical reasons during her pregnancy, and we wanted to get an abortion rather than her risk her life, why shouldn't that be ok? why should the government be making that harder? it's her life and her body.

it's not that i'm "for" partial birth abortions, or any abortion really, but i'm definitely NOT for the government telling women what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

[kryogenix]

most partial birth abortions are done for medical reasons anyway. if my wife's life was in danger because of medical reasons during her pregnancy, and we wanted to get an abortion rather than her risk her life, why shouldn't that be ok. why should the government be making that harder. it's her life and her body.

it's not that i'm "for" partial birth abortions, or any abortion really, but i'm definitely NOT for the government telling women what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

Is it her own body though? Partial Birth Abortions happen relatively late in the pregnancy. Can you justify cracking a baby's head open, and then sucking the brain out with a vacuum as a choice that a woman has the right to make? Does the woman really have the right to decide whether the baby- which is no longer "just a clump of cells," and can survive out side the womb- lives or dies?

At that stage in the game, I think it's undeniable that it's a human being, and she has no right to allow the doctor to do such a barbaric thing.

[brooklyneast05]

yeah, if the woman's life is in danger then i absolutely think it's justified. if i was in that position where it's my baby's life or my wife's...yeah that would be a really hard choice, but it should still be our choice, not the governments.

[kryogenix]

You've just said that it's the woman's right to order the slaughter of another human being.

Your rights end where another person begins. Since you've acknowledged that the baby is a person, yet you still think that the government has no right to enforce the law (since murder is against the law, right?)?

To be honest, I think that's morally indefensible, and it will not go over well with moderate democrats and independents. That is why Obama cannot win. The Republican political machine only has to inform America of this fact and how many SCOTUS judges are at stake.

[brooklyneast05]

the government has the right to take a woman's life?

yeah, if the woman's life is in danger then i absolutely think it's justified. if i was in that position where it's my baby's life or my wife's...yeah that would be a really hard choice, but it should still be our choice, not the governments.

the government gets to choose that my wife should die?


i think the best thing the government can do is stay out of personal lives. they don't honestly care what happens in that situation. they don't care about my wife, my child, or me. they don't have to deal with after effects of all that either. how can someone who doesn't know me, my family, or our situation make a decision like that for me? that's crazy to me.

[kryogenix]

the government has the right to take a woman's life?
the government gets to choose that my wife should die?
i think the best thing the government can do is stay out of personal lives. they don't honestly care what happens in that situation. they don't care about my wife, my child, or me. they don't have to deal with after effects of all that either. how can someone who doesn't know me, my family, or our situation make a decision like that for me? that's crazy to me.

The government isn't taking away the woman's life, her medical condition is. The government is not killing you by telling you that you can't kill a baby.

Your wife does not have a 100% chance of dying by delivering the baby. Nor does having the abortion mean that she's going to have a 100% chance of survival. I'm pretty sure the baby has a 100% chance of dying by cracking its skull and sucking its brains out.

Two wrongs do not make a right. In fact, unless your wife was raped (which in that case, what took you so long to decide to abort?), there's only one wrong being committed here: the partial birth abortion. If two wrongs don't make a right, how does one wrong make a right? I really don't follow the logic.

I'm with you that the consequences might suck, but that doesn't make it morally justifiable.

I'm with you though that the government should play less of a part on our personal lives. Obama doesn't seem to agree. He's pro gun control, pro public health care, all in all, bigger government and higher taxes.

[karmakiller]

In my English class we have to write a paper on one of the canididates and I'm writing mine on Obama, and all the money he wants to spend worries me. He's a very good public speaker, though, and I think that's why a lot of people really like him. But spending all that money to rebuild Iraq, healthcare costs, medical research.

Primaries here are the 19th, so we'll see.

[brooklyneast05]

i suppose we just agree to disagree. i still have a problem with that being the government's choice and not the mother and father who are actually involved.

[kryogenix]

Oh, I disagree.

I think it's easily solved. Can one human being legally murder another, innocent, human being?

The answer is no.

It is not the government choosing for the mother to die. It is the government saying this is sick and twisted and should never have been a choice in the first place. It's not even really a new law if you think about it, it's just reinforcing the idea that murder is wrong, and that PBA is murder. No rights are being taken away because no one ever had the legal choice to murder.

Let's face it, people die. But that does not give people the right to kill other people in order, not even to guarantee survival, but only to increase their chance of survival.

[*paperplane*]

To be honest, I think that's morally indefensible, and it will not go over well with moderate democrats and independents. That is why Obama cannot win. The Republican political machine only has to inform America of this fact and how many SCOTUS judges are at stake.

Except that elections aren't determined on one issue alone. I don't agree with partial birth abortion, and that didn't stop me from voting for him in the primary.

[kryogenix]

Except that elections aren't determined on one issue alone. I don't agree with partial birth abortion, and that didn't stop me from voting for him in the primary.

... Independent voters and moderates. In swing states.

Being absolutely wrong on one issue tends to make them not vote for you. And you kinda need them to vote for you to win elections.