Pregnant adolescents in school Options

[jesusisthebestth...]

i was listening on to the radio the other day and there were some women who called in complaining because they were kicked out of junior high/high school when they started "showing" i think it's totally fair, i don't want to see some pregnant girl beside me in AP biology. but that's just me...

do you think that pregnant teens should be forced to leave school when they begin to show?

[Larentia]

Not at all.
They shouldn't be shunned for giving life to a baby.

There have been a number of pregnant girls in my school and they aren't kicked out. They have a right to an education and shouldn't be denied that because of a baby showing.
No shame in being pregnant, no matter what age.

[Saikou]

well,it's not something i want to see,but i cant agree. a young girl in that predicament still trying to continue her education instead of just dropping out with the "oh im pregnant ,i have to give up life" excuse is something id much rather see. as i oppose to seeing a pregnant young lady out on the street because she's forced out of school.>_<frankly i dont think it's anyone's business but the girl,and her family.

[jesusisthebestth...]

but lots of times they put pregnant teens in "alternative schools" with other soon-to-be moms

[Saikou]

i dont think a pregnant teen,should have to go to an alternative school,unless it's by choice.they're already going through enough change,to suddenly have to be put in a new environment just because they're pregnant just dose not seem fair.

[brooklyneast05]

i don't see why it would matter them being in school with everyone else? there's many things that i "don't want to see" around me, but that doesn't mean they should be forced to leave a public school

[*karmakiller*]

Nah, I don't agree with it. We don't "force" them to leave around here, but some of them choose to go to alternative school because people can be a-holes about that kinda thing. I don't agree with the fact that their pregnant, but that's their business and I shouldn't make it mine by complaining about where they are with their pregnant bellies.

[jammylise]

but lots of times they put pregnant teens in "alternative schools" with other soon-to-be moms

I think its wrong to kick them out, but they cant KICK THEM OUT OF SCHOOl, without providing them any sort of education.

they probably put them in Night School..

but it is annoying having pregnant girls...with morning sickness, and all that......next to me

then giving birth one day next to me..

but it's wrong to lower them like that..

there still people..

[*Insurmountable*]

My school does that. Yeah, they messed up and got pregnant...but it IS a beautiful thing that they are still trying to continue their education. They make things worse for her, (and essentially the baby too) by kicking her out.

Omg I completely agree. I think its wrong for them to do something like that and I've never seen anyone pregnant teen get kicked out of school because she was showing only because she dropped out on her own. I think its wrong for them to take away her right to get an education just because shes pregnant. Their people just like everyone else I think its wrong how shallow you are to the fact that you wouldn't even sit beside a pregnant teen.

Its not contagious. Your not going to be sitting next to one and get morning sickness or start "showing" too.

[NoSex]

i was listening on to the radio the other day and there were some women who called in complaining because they were kicked out of junior high/high school when they started "showing" i think it's totally fair, i don't want to see some pregnant girl beside me in AP biology. but that's just me...

I was reading a book the other day and there was a story about all these kids and parents complaining because they were kicked out of school because they were black, I think it's totally fair, I don't want to see n****rs beside me in my white classes, but that's just America.

Get the point?

[jesusisthebestth...]

I was reading a book the other day and there was a story about all these kids and parents complaining because they were kicked out of school because they were black, I think it's totally fair, I don't want to see n****rs beside me in my white classes, but that's just America.

Get the point?

no i don't see the point because you can't help being african american, you can help getting pregnant. i think having pregnant teens in school condones teenage pregnancy. of course you shouldn't be ostracized for getting pregnant at a young age, but so many young girls act like it's "cute" to be pregnant, especially where i live. i think they should have to go to alternative schools so they can see how greatly their lives have changed.

[brooklyneast05]

i think they should have to go to alternative schools so they can see how greatly their lives have changed.

somehow i highly doubt a pregnant woman needs to go to alternative school before she can see how greatly her life has changed


why don't u want to sit next to a pregnant woman?

[jesusisthebestth...]

it's not that i don't want to sit next to a pregnant teen, but i believe that it can be a distraction to other students in the class, which i think is why they're taken out of school anyway.

[brooklyneast05]

it's not that i don't want to sit next to a pregnant teen

oh ok, i thought u urself had a problem with it

i don't want to see some pregnant girl beside me in AP biology. but that's just me...

what do they do that's distracting?
kids can't concentrate on the board because they are looking to the girls stomach or what?

[jesusisthebestth...]

haven't you had a pregnant girl at your school? lol...geez!

i had several pregnant teens in my school and they're like the buzz of the hallways and in class. it's always "she did? with who?" and "him? u know he don't want her" and "she was with so-and-so at the same time she was with him?"

it is a distraction, even if it is only for a short period of time?

[brooklyneast05]

yea i've been in school with pregnant girls, but i didn't really care.
the "she did? with who?" lasted a couple days tops and then everyone was over it. i don't remember it ever causing anyone to be distracted from their work

but who knows, i went to a big school, so someone being pregnant would never be the "buzz" of the hallways

u must go to school with really immature people if they can't get over the idea of a girl being pregnant

[Jennifer]

Forced to leave school? No, not at all. It's a girl decision to have a child, it shouldn't have anything to do with school besides most likely having to take time off.
There's a girl at my school who's about 16 and expecting her second baby soon.. of course there are the people who are accusing her of being a slut, there are the people who praise her decision, and people who don't really care.
It's not anyone's problem but the girl herself. If you did have a problem with sitting next to a pregnant girl at school, sit somewhere else
Just my opinion.

[jesusisthebestth...]

well, that was high school...and it was a problem. maybe they were immature and i do see your point.

but the aim of any school is to encourage teens to go to college, get a job, get married and get settled before you have children. but having pregnant kids in school changes that and i gues that's why they're sent out of school once they begin to show.

and having pregnant teens in school causes a safety issue for the schools, too.

[brooklyneast05]

but the aim of any school is to encourage teens to go to college, get a job, get married and get settled before you have children.

the aim of any school is education
their aim, and their business, is not on when a woman chooses to have a baby


which safety issues?

[RAWRstephishere]

Thats pretty stupid.

Theres a few people at my school are pregnant, and you can really tell. If people actually see that their peers can actually get pregnant, they might not have sex, because they dont want to be the girl whos pregnant.

[jesusisthebestth...]

Thats pretty stupid.

Theres a few people at my school are pregnant, and you can really tell. If people actually see that their peers can actually get pregnant, they might not have sex, because they dont want to be the girl whos pregnant.

thats a very good point.

the aim of any school is education
their aim, and their business, is not on when a woman chooses to have a baby
which safety issues?

the safety issues: well, what if her water bursts in school? it's not like school nurses are trained to handle that sort of thing? or what if she has a birth "scare" where she thinks she's having contractions but she really isn't?
the school doesnt have time for this, handling these issues would require that the teacher take at least some class time to tend to that student's needs.

[brooklyneast05]

the safety issues: well, what if her water bursts in school? it's not like school nurses are trained to handle that sort of thing? or what if she has a birth "scare" where she thinks she's having contractions but she really isn't?
the school doesnt have time for this, handling these issues would require that the teacher take at least some class time to tend to that student's needs.

when it gets to the point that breaking water is a concern then i don't think they should be in school, just for their own health. i also don't think they would be in school anyway when they're that far along. we're talking about girls who are showing, i doubt they really cause that much disruption or problem.

what about teachers that are pregnant? the "safety issues" apply to them as well, and they're still able to go

i just don't think their need for medical attention happens enough to warrant them needing to leave school. how many times have u been in the classroom with a girl who's water broke or thought she was having contractions?

i agree with RAWRstephishere, if anything it just let's the rest of the girls see that just because ur 16 doesn't meant it can't happen to u

[RAWRstephishere]

thats a very good point.
the safety issues: well, what if her water bursts in school? it's not like school nurses are trained to handle that sort of thing? or what if she has a birth "scare" where she thinks she's having contractions but she really isn't?
the school doesnt have time for this, handling these issues would require that the teacher take at least some class time to tend to that student's needs.

Bull crap.
I dont think schools dont want pregnant people there is because they dont want to "waste class time"
If that does happen, its not like the whole school is going to be on lock down and have the teacher/nurse deliver the baby at school

[jesusisthebestth...]

the truth is, i don't think that teachers who are pregnant should be working...the different personalities from students in class make it hard for teachers to control stress, which makes teachers more apt to mood swings and less sensitive to individual student issues. maybe it's an excuse, but that's just my opinion.

[RAWRstephishere]

the truth is, i don't think that teachers who are pregnant should be working...the different personalities from students in class make it hard for teachers to control stress, which makes teachers more apt to mood swings and less sensitive to individual student issues. maybe it's an excuse, but that's just my opinion.

If kids that are pregnant cant go to the school, I dont think teachers should either. My art teacher is preggo, and shes really bitchy.

Everyone wants her go off and leave and have her baby so we can have a sub.

[jesusisthebestth...]

If kids that are pregnant cant go to the school, I dont think teachers should either. My art teacher is preggo, and shes really bitchy.

Everyone wants her go off and leave and have her baby so we can have a sub.

aint that a bitch? that happened to me in english class, i effin hated my english teacher...she was terrible once she got pregnant. she was short tempered, graded differently, took forever to return assignments and missed so many days! that's what i'm talking about...send the pregnant people home, dammit!! lol

[RAWRstephishere]

aint that a bitch? that happened to me in english class, i effin hated my english teacher...she was terrible once she got pregnant. she was short tempered, graded differently, took forever to return assignments and missed so many days! that's what i'm talking about...send the pregnant people home, dammit!! lol

Haha. Just the bad pregnant teachers.

Your siggy is giving me a headache.

[jesusisthebestth...]

oops-y...i just like the effect. would u like me to slow it down a little, hunnie?

[RAWRstephishere]

oops-y...i just like the effect. would u like me to slow it down a little, hunnie?

Please.

[jesusisthebestth...]

it's fixed hunnie...only 4 u, though

[brooklyneast05]

how sweet

[RAWRstephishere]

it's fixed hunnie...only 4 u, though

Aww.
Thanks.

[jesusisthebestth...]

how sweet

whatever lol

[ParanoidAndroid]

no i don't see the point because you can't help being african american, you can help getting pregnant. i think having pregnant teens in school condones teenage pregnancy. of course you shouldn't be ostracized for getting pregnant at a young age, but so many young girls act like it's "cute" to be pregnant, especially where i live. i think they should have to go to alternative schools so they can see how greatly their lives have changed.

that's true but sexual desire is within everyone. And yes people make mistakes. And since when did public American education make important rules just to satisfy your eyes? And what about a pregnant woman is disgusting? Her belly? It's huge and it just meant that she had sex? so? It's her business and I don't understand why corpulence in the stomach repulses you so much. I think it's better than seeing an obese bitch rolling down the school hallways but you don't see me running down the school board telling them to kick them out just to please my virgin eyes!

As for the teacher thing, they need money. And being a teacher they don't have enough of it! Honestly I never give a shit if a teacher is bitchy for whatever reason. I would be too if I'm teaching apathetic students who take their education for granted.

[jesusisthebestth...]

As for the teacher thing, they need money. And being a teacher they don't have enough of it! Honestly I never give a shit if a teacher is bitchy for whatever reason. I would be too if I'm teaching apathetic students who take their education for granted.

teachers make a reasonable amount of money annually. the days when teachers are underpaid have long gone.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Based on what? And regardless, missing an entire extra year of work would still hurt.

And back on pregnant teens, would it really stop the "buzz" to remove them from school? It doesn't stop people from knowing the girls, so these things will still be talked about. Even if they were to just leave of their own accord without telling anyone, then you have gossip about what happened. Come on, people will talk, and if that really bothers you that much, you need to get over yourself. Plus, these "alternate schools" are just going to waste tax money, and if there's only one per county and it's no where near where a girl lives, then it may be in her best interest to stop going, which would be terrible for her future, as well as her child's.

[NoSex]

no i don't see the point because you can't help being african american, you can help getting pregnant.

Who cares? Your argument is identical to early segregationist positions. You just don't feel safe, comfortable, and virgin with those awful trashy pregnant girls near you, so, you think it's your right to deny them their education. You're a bigot.

There is no reason a pregnant women, girl, anything, should be denied the same education as you or I merely because she has a swollen belly and a disgusting little rat child inside of her. People upset one another all the time, but that doesn't give us the right to deny those people who upset us basic rights. Grow up.

[jesusisthebestth...]

Who cares? Your argument is identical to early segregationist positions. You just don't feel safe, comfortable, and virgin with those awful trashy pregnant girls near you, so, you think it's your right to deny them their education. You're a bigot.

There is no reason a pregnant women, girl, anything, should be denied the same education as you or I merely because she has a swollen belly and a disgusting little rat child inside of her. People upset one another all the time, but that doesn't give us the right to deny those people who upset us basic rights. Grow up.

1. i'd appreciate it if you "attacked" my argument, rather than me. i am not a bigot, and you have no right to call me such. you're being rude because your counter argument was not effective in supporting your statement.

2. removing pregnant teens is completely different from racial segregation. like i said, you can PREVENT pregnancy, but you cannot prevent ethnicity, race, or skin color. this is a fact, why you even compared something like the removal of teenagers, who are showing, from schools to jim crow legislation in the united states i will never know.

3. what are you arguing exactly? clearly you don't support pregnant teens in school, you've called them "awful" and "trashy." if you're supposed to be sarcastic, try again, because i never said any of those things about pregnant teenagers. i clearly stated that i believe pregnant teenagers should be removed from public school settings and placed in alternative schools where they can learn just as they did in public schools without the constant classroom distraction!

Based on what? And regardless, missing an entire extra year of work would still hurt.

when mothers use maternity leave they are paid, they don't just leave their jobs and get nothing in return. not only do teachers have maternity leave, they're members of a union, and they're guaranteed a job once they come back from maternity leave. so what exactly would it hurt?

[Amaranthus]

No.
No one should be forced out of school due to pregnancy.
School is for learning, and until it reaches the point where she is incapable of learning anything due to pregnancy, then it isn't necessary to expel someone.

[brooklyneast05]

1. i'd appreciate it if you "attacked" my argument, rather than me. i am not a bigot, and you have no right to call me such. you're being rude because your counter argument was not effective in supporting your statement.

and not wanting to sit next to a pregnant woman isn't rude?
ur argument isn't all that well supported either i don't think, nobody so far seems to get what the big deal is or why u are so distracted by pregnant girls
it's what, 12 to 1 ?

i clearly stated that i believe pregnant teenagers should be removed from public school settings and placed in alternative schools where they can learn just as they did in public schools without the constant classroom distraction!

there are TONS of distractions in classrooms all the time, i don't see how this is any different or more distracting than anything else
what exactly distracts u about them? because i'm still missing that part i guess

[ParanoidAndroid]

2. removing pregnant teens is completely different from racial segregation. like i said, you can PREVENT pregnancy, but you cannot prevent ethnicity, race, or skin color. this is a fact, why you even compared something like the removal of teenagers, who are showing, from schools to jim crow legislation in the united states i will never know.

Well you're basically denying their rights. And do you honestly think alternative school would be better for them? Ninja please Just because this is something you can prevent is irrelevant. Pregnancy doesn't really harm the classroom environment if SOME PEOPLE were just mature enough to accept the reality of this world.

3. what are you arguing exactly? clearly you don't support pregnant teens in school, you've called them "awful" and "trashy." if you're supposed to be sarcastic, try again, because i never said any of those things about pregnant teenagers. i clearly stated that i believe pregnant teenagers should be removed from public school settings and placed in alternative schools where they can learn just as they did in public schools without the constant classroom distraction!

Constant classroom distraction? The only people who are getting distracted are the people who are making a big fuss out of this nonsense.

when mothers use maternity leave they are paid, they don't just leave their jobs and get nothing in return. not only do teachers have maternity leave, they're members of a union, and they're guaranteed a job once they come back from maternity leave. so what exactly would it hurt?

They get paid but in a significantly less amount. I would know about this since my sister and sister-in-law had to go under maternity leave. And most of the time very thrifty bosses like to put holes on that sort of deal.

I really do not get why you're so into getting them out of public school. True people will gossip. True there will be negative feedback, but that sort of thing is daily, especially in high school. And does it really look gross? Do you want me to repeat myself about the obese kid who rolls down the hallway and how repulsive he looks but you don't see me marching down the school board and take away his rights to a public education? Wow I just repeated myself... but anyways obesity is something you can prevent. And yes it gives negative feedback. Should we put them in alternative school? No.

[1angel3]

I was reading a book the other day and there was a story about all these kids and parents complaining because they were kicked out of school because they were black, I think it's totally fair, I don't want to see n****rs beside me in my white classes, but that's just America.

Get the point?

I see your point, you can't discriminate against anyone simply because they whatever.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

when mothers use maternity leave they are paid, they don't just leave their jobs and get nothing in return. not only do teachers have maternity leave, they're members of a union, and they're guaranteed a job once they come back from maternity leave. so what exactly would it hurt?

Um, but not that much. And only for so long. So if they have to take off the time in which they're pregnant but still able to teach, then they are most definitely losing money, since obviously a lot more time will have to be taken off once the child's born (the usual use of maternity leave). Unless there's health issues, there's no reason not to proceed as normal.

[Comptine]

teachers make a reasonable amount of money annually. the days when teachers are underpaid have long gone.

You got to be kidding me. Maybe in your school or neighborhood. Teachers in well off neighborhoods are extremely well paid because the parents of the kids help fund the salaries, therefore, better paid teachers equal better education for their kids.

Everywhere else, especially in public schools, teachers aren't make that much money. Sure they get a ton of holidays, but they don't make that much money. That is why in many urban areas, the public school system is understaffed. Teachers get paid very little and that's no incentive to become one.

And yes, there is some bigotry to your argument. If those girls (cause what kinda teenage has unprotected sex?) had closed their legs, they wouldn't be in this situation. So never mind the fact that they are taking responsibility by carrying the baby to term , and never mind the fact they're still trying to stay in school; just kick them out because they are a "distraction".

You are advocate alternative schools for pregnant teens. Can you guarantee that their education will be on the same level? If the education is just the same, then maybe it's fine. But even if it was on the same level, then there is no point in switching them because they get the same education.

It just sounds like to me that you want pregnant girls out of schools because it's a "distraction" and it's not right. There's no valid reasoning to kicking out when they serve no harm to other students or themselves.

And the girls were kicked out because they were pregnant. No other reason. They were kicked out because they were pregnant, which isn't a very valid reason.

[jesusisthebestth...]

i'm not sure if this happens in any other schools, but it happens all throughout the state of maryland. it's not "personal opinion" here, it is actually school legislation that pregnant teens are put into alternative schools with other pregnant teenagers

[ParanoidAndroid]

Well we're debating if that sort of law is "right" are we not? Just because you say it's a law now we're supposed to withdraw our opinions? And since this is an informal and not to mention, online debate, it is all opinion.

I don't see a valid reason like all the others and I have said so many times before. I really don't. Do they seriously think it's not a great learning environment to have pregnant women in class? Are they serious? Please that's just bullshit they feed to the public. We all know why they really put them on alternative school. Nicki put up a good point about this:

And back on pregnant teens, would it really stop the "buzz" to remove them from school? It doesn't stop people from knowing the girls, so these things will still be talked about. Even if they were to just leave of their own accord without telling anyone, then you have gossip about what happened. Come on, people will talk, and if that really bothers you that much, you need to get over yourself. Plus, these "alternate schools" are just going to waste tax money, and if there's only one per county and it's no where near where a girl lives, then it may be in her best interest to stop going, which would be terrible for her future, as well as her child's

[lilsnoopy]

We have the teen parent program at our school
So they go to class and can take care of the baby for the day

They have every right to g to public school. Its called public school for a reason. Actually, I dont see why they would kick them out!
If anyone uses the exucse, "its because they are a distraction", I would point to the guy across the room who has the tatoos and punker clothes with piercings and say "so is he, but he still attends this school".

[queen]

i believe that it can be a distraction to other students in the class, which i think is why they're taken out of school anyway.

a lot of students' faces are distracting. i think ugly people shouldn't be allowed in school either.

i think having pregnant teens in school condones teenage pregnancy. of course you shouldn't be ostracized for getting pregnant at a young age, but so many young girls act like it's "cute" to be pregnant, especially where i live. i think they should have to go to alternative schools so they can see how greatly their lives have changed.

i think allowing kids to wear red or blue promotes gang violence. and allowing them to wear all black? now that's just depressing. and how 'bout these fckers who speak in "ghetto slang"? they shouldn't even be allowed in the building! i mean, who the hell can understand them anyway? too much of that darn snoop dogg, if you ask me.

well, what if her water bursts in school? it's not like school nurses are trained to handle that sort of thing? or what if she has a birth "scare" where she thinks she's having contractions but she really isn't?

yah, school nurses are idiots. i mean, they wouldn't even know how to pick up a phone and call an ambulence -_-". wow, they're incredibly useless.

the school doesnt have time for this, handling these issues would require that the teacher take at least some class time to tend to that student's needs.

the school doesn't have time for dumbasses who can't grasp extremely simple math problems either. forget going over homework or reviewing tests. there's no time for that bullshit. man, anyone who isn't asian should just be homeschooled!

aint that a bitch? that happened to me in english class, i effin hated my english teacher...she was terrible once she got pregnant. she was short tempered, graded differently, took forever to return assignments and missed so many days! that's what i'm talking about...send the pregnant people home, dammit!! lol

yes, and have all female teachers take a week off every month, 'cause none of us wanna deal with the pms. and every bitch with an attitude should just be expelled.

removing pregnant teens is completely different from racial segregation. like i said, you can PREVENT pregnancy, but you cannot prevent ethnicity, race, or skin color.

one can prevent acting like a bitch, too. or being impolite. or being an annoying loudass. or being "ghetto" or "punk" or "emo" or "goth". yet these fckers are still allowed an education.

honestly, i can think of hundreds of assholes who i don't wanna see in school. pregnant girls would probably be one of the last on my list.

[AThorpedo]

I fail to see how someone being pregnant is so disruptive to anyone's learning process that the pregnant girl would have to removed from the school that they are currently in. Unless you are the father or mother, you aren't directly involved in the pregnancy. In other words, who cares? There are far greater problems with schools in America than, oh man, girls getting pregnant. I think schools putting far more focus on sports than learning to be far more offensive and distraction than all the pregnant women in the world.
Well, maybe not all of them.

Out of curiosity, do the schools in your area offer abstinence-only sex education? It wouldn't surprise me, and it would lead back to the whole bigger problems in the American educational system idea.

[*Uronacid*]

I agree, make em get home schooled!!! I don't want to see that potbellied girl in school when I'm taking a test. That's annoying. I say, "Bake your buns at home bitch!!!"

[bat19]

My shoes...there's all this baby goo on them

[brooklyneast05]

well looks like this debate is resolved

[MissFits]

"Bake your buns at home bitch!!!"

Where I live the pregnant girls have a choice whether or not they want to go to an alternative school. Most of them choose not to until they realize how much they have to work to support their baby. They should never be forced to leave, especially if they are doing well in the school they are at.

[Joss-eh-lime]

nah, they shouldn't be kicked out.
its not like it will encourage pre-martial sex.
if anything it would help prevent it!

[*Uronacid*]

nah, they shouldn't be kicked out.
its not like it will encourage pre-martial sex.
if anything it would help prevent it!

Alright, then if they are going to keep them in school they should put them on a pedestal so you can see them as soon as you walk in the front door. Also, they should have condom blow guns to shoot her with.

Look, in all honesty I don't think that high-school is an appropriate atmosphere for a pregnant teen. The degrading comments will spread faster than a brush fire in dry season, and these girls will loose their moral faster than greased lightening. I don't think that high-school is a good environment for a pregnant teen, but then again this is why you aren't supposed to be pregnant in highschool.

[jesusisthebestth...]

Alright, then if they are going to keep them in school they should put them on a pedestal so you can see them as soon as you walk in the front door. Also, they should have condom blow guns to shoot her with.

Look, in all honesty I don't think that high-school is an appropriate atmosphere for a pregnant teen. The degrading comments will spread faster than a brush fire in dry season, and these girls will loose their moral faster than greased lightening. I don't think that high-school is a good environment for a pregnant teen, but then again this is why you aren't supposed to be pregnant in highschool.

thank you thank you thank you thank you!

that's all i'm trying to say =]
ur the best.

[brooklyneast05]

thank you thank you thank you thank you!

that's all i'm trying to say =]
ur the best.

i don't see ur argument and josh's to be the same. he doesn't think they should be there because it's not a good atmosphere for them, to me considering what is best for them is different than the opinion u've expressed this whole time. for instance when u started this out by saying "i don't want to see some pregnant girl beside me in AP biology. but that's just me..." and u claimed they are a "distraction". so if all u were trying to say is that u think it's best for the pregnant girl, i guess u should have said that rather than acting like they are a burden to all the students and faculty around them.

i still think it should be up to the girl, she shouldn't be forced into an alternative school

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Alright, then if they are going to keep them in school they should put them on a pedestal so you can see them as soon as you walk in the front door. Also, they should have condom blow guns to shoot her with.

Look, in all honesty I don't think that high-school is an appropriate atmosphere for a pregnant teen. The degrading comments will spread faster than a brush fire in dry season, and these girls will loose their moral faster than greased lightening. I don't think that high-school is a good environment for a pregnant teen, but then again this is why you aren't supposed to be pregnant in highschool.

But telling them that they're less than human and don't even eligible for a PUBLIC school anymore won't make them feel bad about themselves at all. If I were in that situation, being torn away from all my friends just because a condom broke and I had the morals not to get an abortion would definitely keep my spirits high.

[*Uronacid*]

thank you thank you thank you thank you!

that's all i'm trying to say =]
ur the best.

You should chose your words more carefully then. Unless this is what you were going for. xD

But telling them that they're less than human and don't even eligible for a PUBLIC school anymore won't make them feel bad about themselves at all. If I were in that situation, being torn away from all my friends just because a condom broke and I had the morals not to get an abortion would definitely keep my spirits high.

Did I say they shouldn't have the choice to stay? No I did not. I simply stated that I do not think high-school is the appropriate place for a pregnant teen.

If you don't remember high school, let me refresh your memory:
KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL ARE EXTREMELY JUDGMENTAL!
MOST GIRLS DO NOT HANDLE THIS WELL!

On another note, I know plenty of pregnant girls who didn't have abortions, but wanted to. They just waited to long because they were afraid to tell their parents, friends, or someone who could do something about it. Have you ever been pregnant? Do you know the challenges that a pregnant teen faces? Do you think you would react the same as you do now?

Right now you're in the right state of mind, if you were pregnant in high school I'm sure you would be a little stressed. Your decision making abilities might drop a little bit, especially with the sudden hormonal imbalance. I don't know who would want to have sex with you anyways. Unless it was a hate fuck. You have nothing to worry about.

I see it all the time. Pregnant girls having their water break during lunch time. Then bend over, and then it happens. It shoots all over my pants. Fuck! Damn it bitch! Go the fuck home!

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

I don't know where you get off making points about me not having been pregnant when you clearly haven't either. At least for me it's a possibility.

And no, you did not spell out that you thought they should be removed from school, but the topic starter did, and seeing as you were agreeing with her, you implied it.

It doesn't matter whether girls take their pregnancies well or not; the point is that it's their decision whether they want to stay in school or not, and that choice should not be taken away. Just like their option to have an abortion, but hey, wrong topic.

[*Uronacid*]

I don't know where you get off making points about me not having been pregnant when you clearly haven't either. At least for me it's a possibility.

And no, you did not spell out that you thought they should be removed from school, but the topic starter did, and seeing as you were agreeing with her, you implied it.

It doesn't matter whether girls take their pregnancies well or not; the point is that it's their decision whether they want to stay in school or not, and that choice should not be taken away. Just like their option to have an abortion, but hey, wrong topic.

I agree.

I can't believe you thought I was serious when I said:

I agree, make em get home schooled!!! I don't want to see that potbellied girl in school when I'm taking a test. That's annoying. I say, "Bake your buns at home bitch!!!"

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Wait, why was it necessary to say that in here and PM it to me?

But since it's in both places, yeah, I was referring to this one:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2721383

[*Uronacid*]

Wait, why was it necessary to say that in here and PM it to me?

But since it's in both places, yeah, I was referring to this one:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2721383

The second part of my post was the serious part. That's why I said "Look, in all honesty" :P

I pmed you because I wanted to talk to you. :[

[elaboratedream]

I don't think its right to kick them out of a school.
Yes, I thik it is a good thing to have alternative schools as an option for them, but to force them into it is ridiculous.
They made a mistake. They know that pretty well by now. Schools shouldn't punish them further for it.

[*Uronacid*]

I don't think its right to kick them out of a school.
Yes, I thik it is a good thing to have alternative schools as an option for them, but to force them into it is ridiculous.
They made a mistake. They know that pretty well by now. Schools shouldn't punish them further for it.

Well it's not like you have to worry about getting pregnant now is it, you god damn homosexual. How could you possibly understand this situation.

*hits you with the newspaper*

[elaboratedream]

Well it's not like you have to worry about getting pregnant now is it, you god damn homosexual. How could you possibly understand this situation.

*hits you with the newspaper*

just cuz I'm [almost] only interested in women now doesn't mean I always have been. I've had plenty of pregnancy scares before I decided [most] guys are icky.
stupidface.

[*Villainess*]

I dont see why this bothers people.I mean i guess i can understand this can set a bad example on students but from when i have seen pregnant teens i never have thought "OH BOY MIKE I WANT A BABY" Ive more of a less thought "I hope everything works for the best".

And I can see there are some health risks to this.But shit if we have heavilly mentally retarded students in school that sometimes can be unpredicatble.At least offer a parenting class or put them in alternative education seperate from others so they can learn the basics.If they have parenting or child development classes i dont see the harm in it.Schools shouldent shut the door on someone like that.That is the total opposite of what schools stand for.

[*Uronacid*]

just cuz I'm [almost] only interested in women now doesn't mean I always have been. I've had plenty of pregnancy scares before I decided [most] guys are icky.
stupidface.

Well, you're practically a guy now. What up man! I can totally relate. I think guys are icky too. EEEwwwww... Lol, it doesn't bother me that you're gay. Haha, don't worry. I guess I just look at it like, hell we joke around about being gay/straight. So, if you're gay then you should be able to joke around about being straight/gay. :P

I dont see why this bothers people.I mean i guess i can understand this can set a bad example on students but from when i have seen pregnant teens i never have thought "OH BOY MIKE I WANT A BABY" Ive more of a less thought "I hope everything works for the best".

And I can see there are some health risks to this.But shit if we have heavilly mentally retarded students in school that sometimes can be unpredicatble.At least offer a parenting class or put them in alternative education seperate from others so they can learn the basics.If they have parenting or child development classes i dont see the harm in it.Schools shouldent shut the door on someone like that.That is the total opposite of what schools stand for.

I agree, as I said they should get alternative education. They shouldn't be forced to get it.

[*Michelle*]

Abortion, sup.

[*Elba*]

Abortion, ftw.

[katelynlingenfel...]

Well, I think that isn't fair. I really don't understand why it's such a big deal to see a girl showing when she's pregnant no matter what age. I dont know why it would bug you so much if a pregnant girl sat next to you in class. Your mother was pregnant with you at some point, arent you greatful? Try to look at it from her point of view. Not everyone has the same lifestyle.

[Entity]

Nah, I don't think it's fair. They shouldn't get kicked out. Although... their lives will pretty much be over when they have the baby anyway.

[clarity]

I know I'm a bit late on this but hey...

thats a very good point.
the safety issues: well, what if her water bursts in school? it's not like school nurses are trained to handle that sort of thing? or what if she has a birth "scare" where she thinks she's having contractions but she really isn't?
the school doesnt have time for this, handling these issues would require that the teacher take at least some class time to tend to that student's needs.

This could happen ANYWHERE. And it would be better to happen at school then just some random place. And even if your request of them sent to a alternative school they'd still be in a school so your "safety issues" aren't so valid.:)

[jammylise]

People act like pregnant girls aren't humans to.
Like if they are aliens. Who gives a shit really? It's not like if her water breaks she's going to sit on somebodys desk and have the baby there. I would think Nurses for school have SOME experience or knowlegde or dealing with those situations.
If anything, all they have to do is keep her calm "hee hee hoo hoo" lol and call 911, and her parents. I think labor takes a long time...

[yupimchuck]

no.
but i alo go to a school where 1 out of 7 girls is pregnant.
so it doesnt phase me
theyre people too

[Laughsalot]

i don't want to see some pregnant girl beside me in AP biology. but that's just me...

you disgust me with your selfish thoughts. if that's the only reason, go to hell.
i think they deserve to go to school if that's what they want. theydeserve to have an education and have a life.

[jesusisthebestth...]

you disgust me with your selfish thoughts. if that's the only reason, go to hell.
i think they deserve to go to school if that's what they want. theydeserve to have an education and have a life.

out of the entire debate that's all you got? this debate is not about pregnant teens being refused an education, it's about pregnant teenagers being placed in alternative schools when they begin to show. but thanks for your input.

[Laughsalot]

i was listening on to the radio the other day and there were some women who called in complaining because they were kicked out of junior high/high school when they started "showing"

"do you think that pregnant teens should be forced to leave school when they begin to show?"

i think i've made my point.

[jesusisthebestth...]

so u didnt read the rest of the debate? like the rules state? the young girls are placed in alternative schools with other girls who are teen mothers or pregnant. they are "kicked out" or forced to leave public schools when they begin to show. i'm glad that you are so literal and i am happy that you read the topic of the debate, but you may want to read the entire debate and the opinions of others. but again, i thank you for you input.

[brooklyneast05]

i think i've made my point.

lol k
yea i'm gonna agree with soeffingmajor on this one
that point was made a long time ago in the debate, she's already clarified herself numerous times


anyway, so u said this is already taking place in some states?

[*jeanna*]

unless it's a strict religious school you shouldn't be. otherwise they should lay off in public.

[jesusisthebestth...]

anyway, so u said this is already taking place in some states?

i am not sure. but i know for a fact that it happens in schools in maryland, where i live...i've had a 4 friends sent to alternative schools when they started to show. some of them didn't even go to the alternative school, they just stayed home, which is unfortunate.

[brooklyneast05]

so when they were sent home/alternative school what were they told?

[Trinity54]

There have been a few girls at my school a while back that were pregnant yet still came to school even in the late months of the pregnency they still showed up.

I say if they choose to have the education then let them have it but if they have medical problems within the late months or need to take breaks every few minutes then they should get off thier feet at school and take rest for a while.

[Laughsalot]

they were kicked out of junior high/high school when they started "showing"

[size=3 they are "kicked out" or forced to leave public schools when they begin to show.[/size]

ok these are what you put in your posts. do you see the difference between the two? do you know english? the first one you are talking about them kicked out in "general". the second one you reworded it to make it seem as if they actually had an option. if you were smart you would've added thos key words in your first post in the first place. but yea i do see your point now. it's a good thing you changed the words around to a make it seem like you were the good guy all along to prevent further flaming.

[brooklyneast05]

ok these are what you put in your posts. do you see the difference between the two? do you know english? the first one you are talking about them kicked out in "general". the second one you reworded it to make it seem as if they actually had an option. if you were smart you would've added thos key words in your first post in the first place. but yea i do see your point now. it's a good thing you changed the words around to a make it seem like you were the good guy all along to prevent further flaming.

what is ur problem? get the f**k over it. ur attacking her for no reason, read the whole debate. ur not being clever, ur being repetitive of what we've all said already. she's been flamed already for her word choice and she corrected herself. so who cares. u've never said something at first and then thought of a better wording later?

moving on

i agree with trinity.
but yea, i think providing alternative schools is fine if the girls WANT to go there, but i don't think they should be forced to. i'd be interested to know what the school officials said to the girls when they were sending them off to alternative school. if they just said, "well ur showing, u gotta go now"

[jesusisthebestth...]

i wasn't trying to make myself seem like anything. a lot of people don't agree with my opinion that the girls should be sent to alternative schools, but i'm not going to change that. i don't care who it offends, i made a debate topic because i wanted to know what others thought about it & i wanted to know if this happens in anyone else's state. that's it and that's all, honey. but thanks for your input on the debate topic as a whole. it's nice to know your thoughts on the matter
&
thanks for coming to my defense brooklyneast05. i really appreciate it

but to answer ur question, they told them all this stuff about health effects, other students in schools, snide remarks, etc. but surprisingly, none of my friends' parents challenged the idea. they accepted it and that was that.

[LoveToMySilas]

That's just wrong if they are forced to leave the school. I mean, so what if the girl is pregnant? She chose to stay in school and maintain a good education. People will always have something to say about everything. So when they see pregnant girls, it can go both ways. My school has a nursery so thats why I'm for letting them stay in school.

[Laughsalot]

what is ur problem? get the f**k over it. ur attacking her for no reason, read the whole debate. ur not being clever, ur being repetitive of what we've all said already. she's been flamed already for her word choice and she corrected herself. so who cares. u've never said something at first and then thought of a better wording later?

no that has never happened to me on a forum before. it's called "thinking before acting", and i think people can see their mistakes clearly when it is written out like so, and they can fix it and it can prevent people from getting flamed. my point is that since this is a debate topic and people are likely going to look at the first question in the first post by the creater, the creater should make things clear or else change the question around(in the first question/post also) to prevent me or other people from wasting their breath. understand? now that's my "problem". and i think i've made my point clear now if none of you understood that was what i was saying in my second post.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

i am not sure. but i know for a fact that it happens in schools in maryland, where i live...i've had a 4 friends sent to alternative schools when they started to show. some of them didn't even go to the alternative school, they just stayed home, which is unfortunate.

Well, there's one of the main reason a lot of us are opposing this. Pregnant girls shouldn't be forced to go out of their way to continue their education, as many of them won't. That's hardly a good thing. The desire to be educated-- regardless of how strong or weak it is-- shouldn't be suppressed like that, especially for reasons so entirely irrelevant to how they actually fare academically. I'm not saying girls who get pregnant shouldn't have an option if they don't want to stay in their normal school, for the embarrassment and all of that, but forcing them out to another school likely nowhere near their homes is not the answer to this nonexistent problem.

[Smarmosaur]

Well, there's one of the main reason a lot of us are opposing this. Pregnant girls shouldn't be forced to go out of their way to continue their education, as many of them won't. That's hardly a good thing. The desire to be educated-- regardless of how strong or weak it is-- shouldn't be suppressed like that, especially for reasons so entirely irrelevant to how they actually fare academically. I'm not saying girls who get pregnant shouldn't have an option if they don't want to stay in their normal school, for the embarrassment and all of that, but forcing them out to another school likely nowhere near their homes is not the answer to this nonexistent problem.

yeah but bad things happen to good people...others are just sluts, or just screwed up one night and didn't think. anyways...honestly, i'm neutral on this; some people don't want to be sitting by some pregnant girl in class-others don't mind. they should have options, but i think the choice should be left to everybody-students, faculty, and the pregnant person.

[brooklyneast05]

yeah but bad things happen to good people...others are just sluts, or just screwed up one night and didn't think. anyways...honestly, i'm neutral on this; some people don't want to be sitting by some pregnant girl in class-others don't mind. they should have options, but i think the choice should be left to everybody-students, faculty, and the pregnant person.

but WHY do they not want to be sitting next to a pregnant girl?

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

yeah but bad things happen to good people...others are just sluts, or just screwed up one night and didn't think. anyways...honestly, i'm neutral on this; some people don't want to be sitting by some pregnant girl in class-others don't mind. they should have options, but i think the choice should be left to everybody-students, faculty, and the pregnant person.

No, it should definitely be the choice of the girl who is actually pregnant. The democratic process shouldn't be used to take away someone's right to a PUBLIC education, especially when no one else is actually affected. Not wanting to sit next to a pregnant girl is still an incredibly weak argument. By having sex irresponsibly, or just unfortunately, she has committed no crime, no nothing that poses any sort of threat to any other students. I can understand why someone might want to leave their school to go to an alternative one as well, but there most definitely needs to be a choice involved (and by choice, I still mean one by the girl herself).

[Uronacid]

but WHY do they not want to be sitting next to a pregnant girl?

Because she's a pregnant ball of hate, lust, greed.

[brooklyneast05]

Because she's a pregnant ball of hate.

yeah i mean that's basically the only reason i can think of. so far everyone in this topic who's claimed to not want to sit next a pregnant girl hasn't been able to give a reason why they don't.

[Uronacid]

yeah i mean that's basically the only reason i can think of. so far everyone in this topic who's claimed to not want to sit next a pregnant girl hasn't been able to give a reason why they don't.

You could do a better job. She could be smoking or drinking.

She can make you jealous. She could have gotten pregnant just so that she could have sex without contraceptives.

Gross!! She's also distracting because she sits there and eats pickles and mayo at lunch.

Damn dude, She's like a ticking time bomb. She could have a baby at any moment. What if you were taking your math regents, and all of the sudden the girl next to you started having a baby! I would be so mad. Shit woman!, cann't you just hold it for one fucking hour while I take my damn test!