Outsourcing Options

[*kryogenix*]

What's your take on outsourcing? Here's a bit of background for those who don't know what it is: http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20040501faes...g-bogeyman.html


Personally, I don't really like it. Up until a few months ago, I wanted to become a computer programmer. But I learned that many of these jobs were being outsourced to other countries. However, it does help american business I guess.

[poisonedxivy]

outsourcing. where to start. i guess you can't technically find anything wrong with outsourcing other than the fact the people outside our nation are finding jobs more easily than the unemployed in america. true 99% of the people that those jobs through outsourcing are more qualified than the people who apply here but thats not the issue. outsourcing is the way companys have found to get the same job done at a cheaper cost to them. yet through this the economy of other nations if improving and ours regarding the job market is at a standstill. the gov needs to find a way to reduce this, maybe set a certain percentage of jobs that CAN be outsourced and rest should be found within america. say in the future outsourcing wouldn't be a problem the percentage limit can always be removed or increased. i'm not necessarily saying that all jobs should be given to americans since there are people coming on H-1's and etc. but yes. outsourcing needs to be reduced.

[Spirited Away]

Outsourcing doesn't work with every company, infact many has already turned away from outsourcing because they were losing more money even with cheap labor.

It's true that outsourcing affects the job market tremendously short term, but I believe that there will be benefits in the long run.

[poisonedxivy]

Outsourcing doesn't work with every company, infact many has already turned away from outsourcing because they were losing more money even with cheap labor.

It's true that outsourcing affects the job market tremendously short term, but I believe that there will be benefits in the long run.

well the reason they stopped outsourcing was BECAUSE they lost many and no other reason other than that. though those companies have, the majority are sticking to outsourcing leaving us w. the same problem.

i don't see how outsourcing can benefit america in any way other than better products and etc. the fact remains though that whether or not better products are available in the market doesn't mean people will necessarily buy it. it still leaves those jobless people jobless.

[Spirited Away]

well the reason they stopped outsourcing was BECAUSE they lost many and no other reason other than that. though those companies have, the majority are sticking to outsourcing leaving us w. the same problem.

i don't see how outsourcing can benefit america in any way other than better products and etc. the fact remains though that whether or not better products are available in the market doesn't mean people will necessarily buy it. it still leaves those jobless people jobless.

Have you heard of globalization?

That's one of the reason why outsourcing is good. Not only that, it creates opportunities for more domestic industries because labor is affordable and companies are more productive and efficient.

Outsourcing is bad for a number of Americans, but good for the nation as a whole.

In economics, you cannot help that there are winners and losers.

The 'jobless' condition is a short term drawback, however, new jobs will be created.

In basic economics there are absolute advantages and comparative advantages. No matter the case of advantages, trade will maximize efficiency.

By outsourcing, we're trading labor... etc...

[poisonedxivy]

Have you heard of globalization?

That's one of the reason why outsourcing is good. Not only that, it creates opportunities for more domestic industries because labor is affordable and companies are more productive and efficient.

Outsourcing is bad for a number of Americans, but good for the nation as a whole.

In economics, you cannot help that there are winners and losers.

The 'jobless' condition is a short term drawback, however, new jobs will be created.

In basic economics there are absolute advantages and comparative advantages. No matter the case of advantages, trade will maximize efficiency.

By outsourcing, we're trading labor... etc...

sure i've heard of globalization. i agree its good. but not at the rate that its going. i mean there are already transnational corporations contribution to our "globalization" and such. i'm not saying that outsourcing is bad for everyone. i m just saying that employements rates as of now are at an all time low.trading is good. but the jobs aren't being traded. more jobs are going out of america than coming in. i'm not saying that outsourcing is even a bad idea i just think it needs to be done at a slower rate so it can even out over a period of time. if its equal trade of jobs going in and out that its all good. :D

[Spirited Away]

sure i've heard of globalization. i agree its good. but not at the rate that its going. i mean there are already transnational corporations contribution to our "globalization" and such. i'm not saying that outsourcing is bad for everyone. i m just saying that employements rates as of now are at an all time low.trading is good. but the jobs aren't being traded. more jobs are going out of america than coming in. i'm not saying that outsourcing is even a bad idea i just think it needs to be done at a slower rate so it can even out over a period of time.  if its equal trade of jobs going in and out that its all good. :D

I see what you're saying and you have a right to be worried, I know my parents are as well and I'm a bit on the uneasy side...

However, as far as I'm concern, we're still in the 'short term' phase.

[JlIaTMK]

oh yeah

they usually do these kind of things in third world countries
ive watched a couple of things on tv.... have u noticed how ppl that u call for computer assitants like dell have indian accents.... well they went to a company in india where they were doing this and they trained them to speak without an accent and overall.... ever country in the world knows english.... they also interviewed them and asked them how they thought about them taking over other ppls jobs in the U.S. and they said "we need to feed ourselves too" so im really not sure....

[murderous_though...]

This topic can easily be changed into a racial issue, but ill try not to say anything to anger people, because im not racist. I believe my opinion can be summed up in one phrase....jobless Americans...There are Americans that dont have jobs, yet people in other countries are getting jobs and keeping Americans out of the workforce. Until every American has a job, we shouldnt send American jobs outside of the country. What's gonna happen? We'll have a problem with our computer, call up the hotline, and the first thing we hear is "Praise Allah" or Ganeisha is great!"....you may think that, but that doesnt have anything to do with MY computer problem, or why I called you. They usually have such thick accents we cant understand them anyway, and rarely know squat about a computer that was made in Japan, and bought in America....i dont see a shipping route going through India here.... keep the jobs in the US, so we can understand who we are talking to, and so our own economy improves. Thats one of our countries many problems, we are too worried about another country's people and not enough about our own. We spend millions of dollars trying to set up a government they dont want, when all that money could be spent feeding the homeless or educating them on how to get jobs and take care of themselves. Its a middle-eastern country, let the middle-easterners set it up the way they see fit. Keep America just that...America.

[medic]

Outsourcing is the Corporations choice, there's nothing the US can do that would stop it. If I can make a TV in China for about $500 less then it would cost in the US I would do it, and you know you would too. One bi example is Dell tech support, there is nothing different between the old American Dell Tech people and the new ones in India, besides there accent and location. They both have the same amount of knowledge as the next one, and they get all there answers from a computer in front of them. I could pay a someone in the US to do it for about $6.50 (minimum wage) Which when dell tech was in the US they made about $10 a hour. Or I can pay someone in another country the same amount, and they would not strike and ask for raises. If I paid someone in India $10 a hour to sit at a desk and answer a phone they would be upper class in there country.

[Spirited Away]

This topic can easily be changed into a racial issue, but ill try not to say anything to anger people, because im not racist.  I believe my opinion can be summed up in one phrase....jobless Americans...There are Americans that dont have jobs, yet people in other countries are getting jobs and keeping Americans out of the workforce.  Until every American has a job, we shouldnt send American jobs outside of the country.  What's gonna happen? We'll have a problem with our computer, call up the hotline, and the first thing we hear is "Praise Allah" or Ganeisha is great!"....you may think that, but that doesnt have anything to do with MY computer problem, or why I called you.  They usually have such thick accents we cant understand them anyway, and rarely know squat about a computer that was made in Japan, and bought in America....i dont see a shipping route going through India here.... keep the jobs in the US, so we can understand who we are talking to, and so our own economy improves.  Thats one of our countries many problems, we are too worried about another country's people and not enough about our own.  We spend millions of dollars trying to set up a government they dont want, when all that money could be spent feeding the homeless or educating them on how to get jobs and take care of themselves.  Its a middle-eastern country, let the middle-easterners set it up the way they see fit. Keep America just that...America.

Have you heard of globalization?

That's one of the reason why outsourcing is good. Not only that, it creates opportunities for more domestic industries because labor is affordable and companies are more productive and efficient.

Outsourcing is bad for a number of Americans, but good for the nation as a whole.

In economics, you cannot help that there are winners and losers.

The 'jobless' condition is a short term drawback, however, new jobs* will be created.

In basic economics there are absolute advantages and comparative advantages. No matter the case of advantages, trade will maximize efficiency**.

By outsourcing, we're trading labor... etc...

* it's widely believed that these new jobs will mostly be in the service sector
** outsourcing is trading and overcoming opportunity costs (tentative).

[The_AZN_Godfathe...]

I don't think the moral of outsourcing is good...

Sure, it may be good for some businesses... but come on.

Really, I think outsourcing is only good for the "bosses," the people "on the top," the "executives."

I think I heard it even boosted the general economy...

And as far as the moral of outsourcing... the "workers" lose jobs. And you are giving jobs to people overseas, and taking advantage of them too. Cheap labor.

Catch my drift?

[Mulder]

outsourcing is taking advantage of people in other countries..paying them less for sometimes more work than what could be done in America. in countries like India, that small amount of money..weighs more there. it pays for more..

outsourcing helps the economy. sure, maybe it does take away from american jobs..but..in the end, im not against it.

[Spirited Away]

outsourcing is taking advantage of people in other countries..paying them less for sometimes more work than what could be done in America. in countries like India, that small amount of money..weighs more there. it pays for more..

outsourcing helps the economy. sure, maybe it does take away from american jobs..but..in the end, im not against it.

In America, our wages depend on the cost of living. Imagine that gas is $10/gallon, do you think that we all must sit still with a minimum wage of $5.15 (in TX)? No. Likewise, it is logical that in countries where the cost of living is much lower than ours, the salary of their working class is less than in the US.

In the international management scheme of things, however, more and more companies are paying their hired local managers more competitive wages than before. Some people say that they are still getting paid less than their expatriate counterparts and that is unfair. NO, it's not. Expatriates must receive compensation for relocating themselves, and sometimes their families to foreign lands, which often are places that have lower standards of living than in the US. They must also be compensated for the risk of not having a position in their company to come back to once their contract is completed. If they are paid the same salary as local managers, what on earth will they live on once they are back in the US? This is a normal occurence.

Outsourcing doesn't take jobs and not replace them, it does. In fact, it creates jobs that require more skills, which means our working class must be more educated, more experienced in their trade. A positive thing for our society, I think.

[ComradeRed]

Let's say you want some food. If it's cheaper to go out and buy it from farmers or grocery stores than to produce it in your own backyard garden, what do you do?