Cheerleading Options

[bitesnkisses]

Some people think cheerleading is a sport...

what do you think?

sport or not?

[oooohlala]

competitive cheerleading is a sport, but the run of the mill high school "yay football games rah rah rah" cheerleading isn't.

[*Uronacid*]

I always thought cheerleading was just a place where all the whores gathered so I could have sex with them. I mean, I guess i just didn't realize that they actually did something. I never really understood why it exsisted.

[Peanups]

Yes, I think if they are in competitions....

but if they are just doing it for school teams, then no.

Cheerleaders to me are just people who are cheering in sync with eachother and have uniforms.

[jesusisthebestth...]

i think the gymnastic element of cheerleading definitely makes it a sport

[*Steven*]

I always thought cheerleading was just a place where all the whores gathered so I could have sex with them. I mean, I guess i just didn't realize that they actually did something. I never really understood why it exsisted.

One could argue that it's the sport of whoring out, or even argue that sex is a sport.

I think cheer leading is a sport, the same way golf is.

[Joss-eh-lime]

competitive cheerleading is a sport, but the run of the mill high school "yay football games rah rah rah" cheerleading isn't.

yup.

[Peanups]

I think that though things like dance, cheerleading and gymnastics are extremely physically challenging--they are not sports. I don't think a sport should be rehearsed. They practice the same thing over and over again, and perform it and then are graded on their performance. A sport, to me, should have an element of surprise. Not the same thing happening every time.

Well don't football teams reherse plays? They practice the same thing over and over,, but yes, there is an element of surprise but I guess you could kind of say the same thing for cheerleading,,

you don't know what weather you may be in, you don't know how physically you will be there.

[*Steven*]

^That's a bad analogy. Football you compete with other people. You run into other people. You tackle other people. You don't know what they're going to do. If cheerleading had a mat below them that moved, or made waves, then all of a sudden they had 80 mph winds, then they had to switch it up with the snap of a judge's finger and do what the judge says, then you could use that as an analogy.

[*Sandraaa*]

Cheerleading to me is a sport. How about competitive cheerleading? People get thrown around, lifted and whatnot. Dancing is indeed a sport. And Steven that wasn't a bad analogy at all. There are cheerleading competitions.

Sport doesn't consist of running into people. Like I said above, what about the lifts? The jumping and turning and extreme body shaking? What would you call those? Body exercice?

You know that there are cheerleading awards.

Sport isn't based solely on running and tackling. In cheerleading, you don't know what your opponent is going to do either. Which makes it a competition. Nonetheless, high school cheerleading is still a sport. I admit that it isn't that much of a sport compared to football / soccer / basketball.

[Peanups]

^That's a bad analogy. Football you compete with other people. You run into other people. You tackle other people. You don't know what they're going to do. If cheerleading had a mat below them that moved, or made waves, then all of a sudden they had 80 mph winds, then they had to switch it up with the snap of a judge's finger and do what the judge says, then you could use that as an analogy.

then i guess volleyball can't be a sport either because you aren't "running into other people."

there is little or no contact at all with the other team in volleyball

[*Uronacid*]

One could argue that it's the sport of whoring out, or even argue that sex is a sport.

I think cheer leading is a sport, the same way golf is.

Good point.

[*ersatz*]

>>Sports

[*Sandraaa*]

Uuuh, Sammi why was this moved? This topic is very debateable.

[bitesnkisses]

Uuuh, Sammi why was this moved? This topic is very debateable.

agreed

[DarkImpressions]

Totally a sport.
I mean some people say its not, But when you come off that damn floor,With girls and guys about to freaking throw up gasping for air,Umm Yesss.
It is total hard workk!

[*Steven*]

Not a bad analogy. Football and Cheerleading are not alike in the sport sense. Football you compete against another team in real time constantly changing what you have to do based on the other team. Soccer, same. Baseball, same. Fishing, based on weather(omg fishing). Basketball, same. Volleyball, you have another team to compete against, and they don't always behave the same way, so I would consider that a sport. Cheerleading I put into the dance group. Dance groups I consider wanna-be-sports. When I say wanna-be that comes out quite harsh to some, but I don't mean it as in it wishes it were a sport. I just don't consider it a sporty sport. Same w/ golf.

[Gypsy Eyes]

Serious competitive cheer is a sport, the usual highschool rah rah isn't.

I think that though things like dance, cheerleading and gymnastics are extremely physically challenging--they are not sports. I don't think a sport should be rehearsed. They practice the same thing over and over again, and perform it and then are graded on their performance. A sport, to me, should have an element of surprise. Not the same thing happening every time.

How do dance and cheer not have the element of suprise? It would be the same thing as track or any other sport. You don't know what your competition has in store for you, so all you can do is prepare the best you can and hope for the best.

[*Moderator*]

Since this topic is more towards the Debate, I hope nobody minds me moving it back.

Moved to Debate

[NoSex]

what do you think?

I think this thread sucks.

[cheerbee07]

Serious competitive cheer is a sport, the usual highschool rah rah isn't.
How do dance and cheer not have the element of suprise? It would be the same thing as track or any other sport. You don't know what your competition has in store for you, so all you can do is prepare the best you can and hope for the best.

I agree entirely. In addition, if something happens, in say, a build, such as a mistep, that isn't predictable. You'd have to make a split second decision which could either prevent or cause considerable injury.

[*ersatz*]

Mmmm, but there's also personal judgement involved in the referees. An entire game can have a different outcome depending on a ref's call. And like, with judging, there can be some pretty close ones but...if you're good, you're good.

And the reason I personally wanted dance to be considered a sport when I was on dance team at my school is because then we would get some of the athletic funding. We got nada, cause we were just a club. So, in cases like that, being considered a sport is a big benefit.

[*Uronacid*]

Cheerleading is like vocational training for wanna-be strippers. It's not a sport.

[RAWRstephishere]

I know cheerleading can be hard work.

Its still a sport.

Just because they barely wear any clothes doesnt mean its not a sport.

[*Steven*]

I Don't think that the clothing was the issue he was referring to, rather the dancing. There are sports in which people wear very little clothing and aren't belittled, i.e. swimming/beach volleyball.

[*Uronacid*]

I Don't think that the clothing was the issue he was referring to, rather the dancing. There are sports in which people wear very little clothing and aren't belittled, i.e. swimming/beach volleyball.

Exactly what I was referring to, thank you Steven. Cheer leading is nothing but a bunch of youngins learning how to strip properly. Whether it's for their future husband or a seventy-six year old virgin, they will become the best stripper through the help of our public school systems.

(Cheerleading makes for good male stripping to)

[nocturne.noir]

Competative cheerleading is a sport;;
no question.
That's some hard ass work right there.

But school cheerleading?
Please.
That's just pathetic.

[radhikaeatsraman]

Why is this in Debate? Someone move this please.

[Gypsy Eyes]

their physical challenges, or the hard work, or anything else.
To me, the main purpose of dance is not to be athletic. I thought it was considered more of an art? It doesn't take away from how physically challenging it is.
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I also think sports should have a cut-throat, win or lose. One team makes more baskets--win. One team makes more touch downs--win. Someone jumps farther--win.

Things like dancing, gymnastics and cheerleading are left up to personal judgement depending on what judges you have. Like lets say you lost by .01 points. With a different set of judges you might have lost by .2 points or won by .45 points! There isn't a cut-throat win or lose--because "judging" opens the door to human error, and personal opinion.

If you take the same basketball game (exactly the same), and play it in front of 10 different crowds--it will still be exactly the same. Whoever scored more baskets, would win the game.

Actually in most elite dance judging you get points for certain things. You start out with a perfect score and lose points for errors in technique, energy and skill. Therfore all the judging would be almost the same if not identical. I'm not talking about classical ballet which is more of an art form, I'm talking about things such as modern, lyrical, hip hop, tap, etc. The more athletic you are the better you perform with them. The same with sports.

[HakunaMatata]

Why is this in Debate? Someone move this please.

....to? It seems very much like a debate to me; maybe the topic isn't as serious as the others in here, but 'tis still a debate, yeah? (:

[radhikaeatsraman]

Uh, no. I thought Debate was for serious, open-ended topics. "Cheerleading is a sport: yes/no" is NOT a feasible Debate topic, imo. Please move it to Sports.

[*Steven*]

No, it's debatable and whether or not it's a sport is open to interpretation. Why should there be is there a god, yes/no? A challenge to atheist, etc etc. Those are all simple answers, yet people manage to form debates from them. If you read through the responses you'll see that many points aside from a straight up yes/no answer have arisen. It stays.

[*Uronacid*]

Let me help you Steve.

Uh, no. I thought Debate was for serious, open-ended topics. "Cheerleading is a sport: yes/no" is NOT a feasible Debate topic, imo. Please move it to Sports.

Go fuck yourself. You are wrong.

[charlg93]

i think cheerleading is a sport, and i wish they did it where i live coz they dont have cheerleading down ere.

lol i so wish i lived in america lmao.

[*Uronacid*]

i think cheerleading is a sport, and i wish they did it where i live coz they dont have cheerleading down ere.

lol i so wish i lived in america lmao.

Hell yeah! AMERICA!!! FUCK ME!!

[dreamonbby]

i am a competitive cheerleader and yeah, it is a sport. we work hard. we fall and get hurt just as much or more than any other contact sport. when you're in the air spinning and what not and then you fall and hit the mat hard, it hurts worse than getting hit by a 180 lb. guy and you guys have pads on! i mean at my school our cheerleaders work hard and it shows. so yeah it is.

[LoveDanceSoul]

As a former competitive cheerleader. ITs not a sport, it is a physical activity but there are no elements that qualify it as being a sanctioned sport.

[EmoEyelinerx]

I dont think it is. Its just basicly dancing which I dont think is a sport eather.

[Gypsy Eyes]

^
Next time you do a pushup into a backhandspring into a full after doing a straddle jump into a backtuck please let me know. Then we'll discuss sports.

[*Uronacid*]

^
Next time you do a pushup into a backhandspring into a full after doing a straddle jump into a backtuck please let me know. Then we'll discuss sports.

Next time you do that, I want you to do it with a bikini on. Tell me how you feel. I may have a job for you depending on your age.

^I'm telling you guys... cheer leading = vocational school for strippers and pole dancers

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Uh, no. I thought Debate was for serious, open-ended topics. "Cheerleading is a sport: yes/no" is NOT a feasible Debate topic, imo. Please move it to Sports.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62804

Whether it's "debatable" or not, the exact same topic already exists in sports, and I didn't have to go back very many pages to find it. Plus, all the other topics like this are in sports, like the marching band one. By Steven's explanation, we could have every topic about "should this team have won this game?" in here, but instead they're in sports for a reason.

[*Steven*]

That's because no one posts in sports.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

What is? The fact that I didn't have to go back very far? That's not relevant.

[Jennifer]

It's definitely a sport if it's competitive cheerleading. I see it as, any physical activity that involves teams and involves being active for a period of time is a sport.

The cheerleading teams formed at high school's etc, now I'm not sure if that can be considered a sport, because it's basically cheering on.. a sport.