"If you all followed the rules, you'd all be treated equally", BooKaka Options

[*tripvertigo*]

I came across a post that said exactly what the topic title says, and not wanting to go too off topic, I chose to post a thread here in Feedback rather than respond to it in the actual thread itself.

Um, hate to break it to you but because someone has a history of not following the rules does not give you the right to treat them in a way that is different than everyone else. Your suggestion that "if you all just followed the rules, everyone would be treated equally" is a load of crap.

This kind of logic only applies in the real world when theres Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism involved, and we all know how those types of governments turned out in the past, kthx.

I also want to add, the kind of people that make up rules as they go along and enforce them retroactively to excuse them from wrongfully penalizing people that have done nothing wrong have been known in society as Dictators or Tyrants. I want you to think about that.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

You're right. It is utterly illogical to punish a repeat offender more harshly than a new one, because the older methods are clearly effective.

Also, it would be UTTERLY stupid, and in no way natural, to be suspicious of the motives of someone who has been repeatedly unpleasant in the past.

I've seen the light.

[brooklyneast05]

^agreed 100% with saybloodymary's response

this is completely ridiculous sounding in my opinion

[*kryogenix*]

I think the same rule should apply to the mod team, who have been wrong (by their own admission) time and time again while persecuting the same user several times. I'm sure if the mod team just followed the rules, they wouldn't be given the crap that they're getting.

[*Programmer*]

Rules are meant to be bent and broken. Just the way it is. But at the same time those who do abide by them..end up paying for the guilty one's actions anyway....so...therefore more rules are put in place...and the same thing gets even more repetitive.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Being wrong =/= breaking a rule.

Unfortunate, but there it is.

Punishing someone more than once =/= persecution.

Not even unfortunate.

[*tripvertigo*]

Actually you know, lets just apply your logic to the mods now. If we finally decide on a form of mod punishment, why dont you guys just enforce those retroactively upon mods that have broken the rules in the past?

That sounds like a good idea.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Oh yes. Two wrongs making a right. Again, we should have seen it before!

[*Spencer*]

We are all equal

[*Elba*]

We are all equal

That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.

[*tripvertigo*]

I also want to say that I wasnt referring to any terms of punishment when i started this thread.

I meant that people who have applied for staff positions should all be considered equally, and not pre-judged on the basis that they have broken certain rules in the past, while a number of moderators currently on staff have broken the same rules.

[*Programmer*]

^

Good Point. But you also have to remember those who made mistakes in the past have been relieved of there duties. While the one's currently making the mistakes are still in power.

So your kind of a a grand deadlock..

[*tripvertigo*]

^

Good Point. But you also have to remember those who made mistakes in the past have been relieved of there duties. While the one's currently making the mistakes are still in power.

Not all of them have been relieved of their duties yet.

[*Programmer*]

^True but most have. It's really not healthy to focus on the negative. Try and be positive about this.

[*kryogenix*]

Being wrong =/= breaking a rule.

Unfortunate, but there it is.

Being wrong in the administration of a punishment = Abuse

Punishing someone more than once =/= persecution.

Not even unfortunate.

Being incorrect in punishing someone repeatedly, acknowledging that mistakes were made, but refusing to apologize = persecution

[*tripvertigo*]

^True but most have. It's really not healthy to focus on the negative. Try and be positive about this.

Well all i'm saying is that it still applies to the subject at hand.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Being wrong in the administration of a punishment = Abuse
Being incorrect in punishing someone repeatedly, acknowledging that mistakes were made, but refusing to apologize = persecution

Being wrong in the administration of a punishment = Making a mistake = Life.

Being incorrect in punishing someone repeatedly, acknowledging that mistakes were made, but refusing to apologize = Rude, and somewhat pigheaded.

Rude and somewhat pigheaded, while again unfortunate, is just that. Some people are that way. So don't like them. That's all it has to be.

Trish, I know you weren't making it about punishment, but the principle you espouse is equally applicable there. Furthermore, the fact that people don't get hired doesn't mean that they weren't considered at all. That doesn't follow.

[*Spencer*]

Trish, I know you weren't making it about punishment, but the principle you espouse is equally applicable there. Furthermore, the fact that people don't get hired doesn't mean that they weren't considered at all. That doesn't follow.

you can not sit here and tell me elba and i were even thought about.

[1angel3]

I also want to say that I wasnt referring to any terms of punishment when i started this thread.

I meant that people who have applied for staff positions should all be considered equally, and not pre-judged on the basis that they have broken certain rules in the past, while a number of moderators currently on staff have broken the same rules.

I agree with that

[*ersatz*]

If I could show you the modding thread to prove it, I would. I swear, and if I believed in God I would swear to him, that you guys were mentioned, and sometimes positively. Now please stop saying that because it's not true.

[*Spencer*]

fair enough. thanks.

though it doesn't help your point that i have still yet to have an interview.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

you can not sit here and tell me elba and i were even thought about.

Yes, I can.

However, as it would be a pointless excercise in circular argument, as you are determined to be hard-done by, I'm not going to bother.

[*Elba*]

Oh, I bet we were mentioned. "They would make great mods when hell freezes over Moving on..."

[*Programmer*]

well a reflection of someone's past is a hard thing to ignore Elba...
the more current things are look on as mistakes...while the past are look upon as horrible things.

[*Elba*]

Rico, you really don't make any sense to me