what is racism???, Name callin' Options

[MoHaWkGrl]

You call me:
"redneck"
"Hillbilly"
"Slaker"
"Cracker"
"Honkey"
"Whitey"
"Gringo"
"Sage"
and you think it's OK.

But when I call you:
"Jungle bunny"
"Spear chunker"
"Coon"
"Wet back"
"Jiggaboo"
"Porch monkey"
"Sand nigger"
"Rag head"
"Towelhead"
"Camel Jockey"
"Gook"
"Spook"
"Nigger"
"Kike"
"Slant eyes"
or
"Chink"
you call me a racist.


-You have the United Negro College Fund.

-You have Martin Luther King Day.

-You have Black History Month.

-You have Cesar Chavez Day.

-You have Yom Hashoah

-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi

-You have the NAACP.

-You have BET.


-If we had WET (white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.

-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.

-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.

-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.

-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.

-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.

-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them. they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.

-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.



I am white.

and

I am proud.

But, you call me a racist.



Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Now watch, I'll be racist for reposting this

So what? no-one will re-post this for fear of being called racist

[*Mercy*]

Not to be a ass but Did you get this off myspace??

[illriginal]

Racism
As far as racism goes, if a black person called me a cracker, I'd knock him the f**k out. If a white person called me a spic... I'd knock him the f**k out too.

Throwing racist comments around, is a desperation when you're losing or getting styled on. Racism is for the weak and even a cock roach is more significant than a racist ignorant bitch.

Oh by the way, TNT... ever heard of it? That's white man's entertainment.

You also have Neo Nazis and KKK roaming the U.S. while the black panthers and NOI have to stay underground.

Do your knowledge before you spit your wisdom.

[EddieV]

If anyone calls me anything, I really don't care. As long as they don't say anything that's very personal, in that case, I'm shooting someone.

[heyyfrankie]

-You have Black History Month

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

during black history month this past year, a kid raised his hand and was like...
"does anyone else find it ironic that BLACK history month is the shortest month of the year?"
LMFAO!!
it was so badddd.
and my teacher got so pissed.
he was white & she was black, btw.

[Detective]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

during black history month this past year, a kid raised his hand and was like...
"does anyone else find it ironic that BLACK history month is the shortest month of the year?"
LMFAO!!
it was so badddd.
and my teacher got so pissed.
he was white & she was black, btw.

Whoa! What did she do?

[illriginal]

lol why would the teacher get mad if it's true. Just deal with it lol
But that is funny... even though they do get 1 whole month, they shouldn't feel as if they're gettin shitted on.

[1angel3]

What do you call Independents day, Thanks Giving,and Presidents days and 4th of July?


p.s What made you start this tpoic?

[illriginal]

What do you call Independents day, Thanks Giving,and Presidents days and 4th of July?

Uh... 4th of July is America's Independence Day
All of those are national holidays... not race based holidays.

[1angel3]

^ Black people didn't have anything to do with it (Thats what I;m saying)

[*Sandraaa*]

You know, if Whites were considered to be 'minority' maybe then you'll get what you want.

All these [insert race] events don't exist in Belgium. America causes trouble for America. I do not see the importance of it all, honestly.

[1angel3]

^ I agree

[*superstitious*]

What do you call Independents day, Thanks Giving,and Presidents days and 4th of July?
p.s What made you start this tpoic?

Not to be a ass but Did you get this off myspace??

I'm think it was a forward of some type, especially because of:

Now watch, I'll be racist for reposting this

So what? no-one will re-post this for fear of being called racist

This is a really old argument, one that has a topic in Debate if memory serves (at least, the debate touched upon the subject).

Also, there is a fine line between a racial slur and a commonly used colloquialism.

[illriginal]

I'm think it was a forward of some type, especially because of:
This is a really old argument, one that has a topic in Debate if memory serves (at least, the debate touched upon the subject).

Also, there is a fine line between a racial slur and a commonly used colloquialism.

Yeah but even colloquialism is sad... why would you be proud to call yourself [insert racial slur]?

I guess people no longer value their roots, which is sad. If someone argued that it's ok to use colloquialism or racism against their own people because they're the same race... then they have no Honor/Pride for who they are, and what their ancestors were.

If we humans keep it up this way, culture will be dead yet made into nothing but a facade.

^ Black people didn't have anything to do with it (Thats what I;m saying)

lol Nor were the Chinese, the South Americans, the Jews, Australians etc...
If you have a problem with these national holidays in your country (America) then don't celebrate them, you have your constitutional rights.

[1angel3]

lol Nor were the Chinese, the South Americans, the Jews, Australians etc...
If you have a problem with these national holidays in your country (America) then don't celebrate them, you have your constitutional rights.

Yeah but these culture wasn't apart of the beginning of America( well not that I know of). Just like the topic starter, he mention all African American holidays, so I was naming some for him/her too. Everyday at school we learn about white history in every class except of math. I'm glade black people have at least one month.

[JerzDevil]

aiyo girl, you brainwashed hahaha, i'm dying. did you make this up?? usually people who are racist against white people, they don't care cuz whites are the ones that think they are superior in the U.S. looking down at the minorities (africans, hispanics, asians). they run the U.S. of course. no race comes above them in this country. so white people wouldn't really care either cuz they still think they are superior. meanwhile when it's the other way around, we would get offended, cuz as they racially offend us, we feel that they are stronger and superior than us. that's how I feel. also when they usually say white power, i feel that it is a racist slogan, cuz that was a saying back then from a bunch of white racists.

asian pride

now y'all can't call me racist, can you? ha.

[*Sandraaa*]

^ [off topic] I'd love to hear your voice / accent. <=== Angel3

[illriginal]

Yeah but these culture wasn't apart of the beginning of America( well not that I know of). Just like the topic starter, he mention all African American holidays, so I was naming some for him/her too. Everyday at school we learn about white history in every class except of math. I'm glade black people have at least one month.

I hate to break it to you... but your race wasn't the only race that was brutally beaten, enslaved, murdered etc... I understand the history your ancestors had, but realistically speaking, your ancestors aren't the only ones. Racism, enslavement, and overall hatred has existed all over the world, believe it or not.

[brooklyneast05]

Everyday at school we learn about white history in every class except of math. I'm glade black people have at least one month.

i'd agree with that somewhat

that whole post that started this topic is ridiculous. i've seen it on myspace repeatedly and delete anyone who posts it just because they are idiots. everything about it is dumb to me, my favorite is

-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.

they WERE marching for their rights
if i saw a ton of white people back then marching for their rights, i wouldn't call them racists, i'd call them attention whores. why on earth would they march for rights they already have

[*Sandraaa*]

^ The Black slavery is much more known than any other type of slavery which makes some people consider it to be 'worse'. <== Danny.

[illriginal]

^ The Black slavery is much more known than any other type of slavery which makes some people consider it to be 'worse'. <== Danny.

Bingo... plus you guys live in the U.S. it's part of the American History. In another country, they'd be like oh well Americans enslaved, the Chinese, Blacks, Hispanics, and Native Indians... and we enslaved [insert races/ethnic groups here].

i'd agree with that somewhat

that whole post that started this topic is ridiculous. i've seen it on myspace repeatedly and delete anyone who posts it just because they are idiots. everything about it is dumb to me, my favorite is

You can easily tell it was some kid that made the bulletin. That or a really uneducated person, who doesn't know the facts.

[brooklyneast05]

well i suppose it's better to be enslaved than just be flat out murdered, such as the Indians

i guess we could celebrate that on white pride day?

[1angel3]

I hate to break it to you... but your race wasn't the only race that was brutally beaten, enslaved, murdered etc... I understand the history your ancestors had, but realistically speaking, your ancestors aren't the only ones. Racism, enslavement, and overall hatred has existed all over the world, believe it or not.

Yes I understand that, I didn't say we was the only.

[brooklyneast05]

You can easily tell it was some kid that made the bulletin. That or a really uneducated person, who doesn't know the facts.

agreed

[*Sandraaa*]

Danny, I don't live in the U.S. I've never been to the U.S. I is European dude!

[1angel3]

^ [off topic] I'd love to hear your voice / accent. <=== Angel3

Ok cool

[illriginal]

well i suppose it's better to be enslaved than just be flat out murdered, such as the Indians

i guess we could celebrate that on white pride day?

I'd have to disagree... I'd rather die than be some slave. I couldn't handle being some tool for a human.

Danny, I don't live in the U.S. I've never been to the U.S. I is European dude!

Oh okay :D

[brooklyneast05]

I'd have to disagree... I'd rather die than be some slave. I couldn't handle being some tool for a human.

yea i might agree
it depends on if i got good food or not

[1angel3]

well i suppose it's better to be enslaved than just be flat out murdered, such as the Indians

i guess we could celebrate that on white pride day?

We do, it's called Thanks Giving. You know they arrive here and made friends with the Native Americans and the Native taught them some things ( Not going to get into detial, we all know the story). White people celebrated the native by killing them and gave thanks and Thanks Giving Holiday was born. The end

Long story short.

[illriginal]

We do, it's called Thanks Giving. You know they arrive here and made friends with the Native Americans and the Native taught them some things ( Not going to get into detial, we all know the story). White people celebrated the native by killing them and gave thanks and Thanks Giving Holiday was born. The end

Long story short.

Actually (yes off topic) what we're taught in school about Thanks Giving, is uh.. kinda wrong. Thanksgiving is a day of fasting... Not feasting. But then again... Upon the first harvest, the Pilgrims set aside a day to give thanks for their bountiful harvest, and together with the native Indians, they had a great feast. The factual nature of this account is certainly questionable and yet little is truly known of the first Thanksgiving. In fact, some dispute remains on when exactly the first Thanksgiving occurred.

You see.. in what Native Indians have been saying is, their people never "feasted", yes they ate, but they fasted more than ate. And they taught fasting before the feast. Which America has not taught properly to the children.

But anyways, enough history lessons :D

[popoberry]

okay i have like a theory or some shittt. ... some people say that but they joke around . it doesn`t mean they racist !!!

[illriginal]

okay i have like a theory or some shittt. ... some people say that but they joke around . it doesn`t mean they racist !!!

I dunno, I learned my world history, and still learning. Racism only adds gasoline to the fire of hatred that every culture/race/ethnicity/religion has towards each other. I don't think using racial terms/slurs/words is appropriate in any sort of conversation.

I've dealt with whites and blacks bashing my race, since I was in 5th grade. I don't play that lil game... if you're racist or wanna use racist words, do yourself a favor, keep it under your breath. Cuz if I heard it (even if it wasn't about my race/skin color/ethnicity/religion/culture etc... I'll still stand up and shut them down.

I'm sorry, I just don't have tolerance for discrimination, whether it's serious or jokingly.

[brooklyneast05]

yea i was thinking that too, shes on my friends list
well
i was gonna ask why she posted it

[synthase]

maybe shes a want-to-be

[Spirited Away]

Yeah but these culture wasn't apart of the beginning of America( well not that I know of). Just like the topic starter, he mention all African American holidays, so I was naming some for him/her too. Everyday at school we learn about white history in every class except of math. I'm glade black people have at least one month.

Wait, wait... haha... wait... what are you saying? The bolded part confuzzled me a little.

[illriginal]

Wait, wait... haha... wait... what are you saying? The bolded part confuzzled me a little.

I think she means, they don't teach enough about the history of Africa, Slave trade, American Slavery, and Black history in general.

[Spirited Away]

The problem is time. There isn't enough time for the curriculum to be too focused on any one aspect of American history longer than necessary. Blame time then, not racism...

[Spirited Away]

What's not happening?

[*superstitious*]

I left it here (didn't move it to Debate) because there was actual discussion happening in The Lounge. :[

But I guess it could go either way (and apparently you've already moved it)

[brooklyneast05]

The problem is time. There isn't enough time for the curriculum to be too focused on any one aspect of American history longer than necessary. Blame time then, not racism...

i understand that there's not time, but it's annoying when every year they go over the same exact thing over and over and over and over and over, we always start at the same place and stop at the same place. we study the pilgrims getting here everytime, we study the kings and queens of england every time. repeated over and over.

in high school a kid in my class asked why we spent one week on africa and a semester on europe. and the teachers reply was that africa just didn't have as much important history. i understand that that's not the majority of teachers opinions though.

they should teach more history from all around the world i think, instead of drilling the same things into our head over and over.

at least here in america, i don't know how they teach history everywhere else

[illriginal]

The problem is time. There isn't enough time for the curriculum to be too focused on any one aspect of American history longer than necessary. Blame time then, not racism...

What do you mean it's time? There's plenty of time to learn plenty of subjects =\

I'm a prime example of it... my goal is to be a certified Scholar, and not just in one subject but as many as possible.

i understand that there's not time, but it's annoying when every year they go over the same exact thing over and over and over and over and over, we always start at the same place and stop at the same place. we study the pilgrims getting here everytime, we study the kings and queens of england every time. repeated over and over.

in high school a kid in my class asked why we spent one week on africa and a semester on europe. and the teachers reply was that africa just didn't have as much important history. i understand that that's not the majority of teachers opinions though.

they should teach more history from all around the world i think, instead of drilling the same things into our head over and over.

at least here in america, i don't know how they teach history everywhere else

The problem with America is, it's selfish. It only cares about itself and anything that effects it. So America in a sense does teach World History, but only parts of the world that revolved around America.

[Rubeus-Hagrid]

You call me:
"redneck"
"Hillbilly"
"Slaker"
"Cracker"
"Honkey"
"Whitey"
"Gringo"
"Sage"
and you think it's OK.

But when I call you:
"Jungle bunny"
"Spear chunker"
"Coon"
"Wet back"
"Jiggaboo"
"Porch monkey"
"Sand nigger"
"Rag head"
"Towelhead"
"Camel Jockey"
"Gook"
"Spook"
"Nigger"
"Kike"
"Slant eyes"
or
"Chink"
you call me a racist.
-You have the United Negro College Fund.

-You have Martin Luther King Day.

-You have Black History Month.

-You have Cesar Chavez Day.

-You have Yom Hashoah

-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi

-You have the NAACP.

-You have BET.
-If we had WET (white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.

-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.

-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.

-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.

-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.

-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.

-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them. they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.

-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am white.

and

I am proud.

But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Now watch, I'll be racist for reposting this

So what? no-one will re-post this for fear of being called racist

Wow you sound so smart ARGGG
WHITE = MINORITY? no go die

[xburnoutx00]

We do, it's called Thanks Giving. You know they arrive here and made friends with the Native Americans and the Native taught them some things ( Not going to get into detial, we all know the story). White people celebrated the native by killing them and gave thanks and Thanks Giving Holiday was born. The end

Long story short.

...Do you go to school?
And for what it's worth - Thanksgiving isn't a 'white pride day'.

[illriginal]

...Do you go to school?

LOL

/discussion

[brooklyneast05]

And for what it's worth - Thanksgiving isn't a 'white pride day'.

i don't thinks she was serious exactly

referring to thanksgiving as a white pride day is ridiculous in the same way that whining about the existence martin luther king day is ridiculous, which was was the original post said.

thats what i thought she meant by it, but i could be wrong i suppose

[Spirited Away]

i understand that there's not time, but it's annoying when every year they go over the same exact thing over and over and over and over and over, we always start at the same place and stop at the same place. we study the pilgrims getting here everytime, we study the kings and queens of england every time. repeated over and over.

in high school a kid in my class asked why we spent one week on africa and a semester on europe. and the teachers reply was that africa just didn't have as much important history. i understand that that's not the majority of teachers opinions though.

they should teach more history from all around the world i think, instead of drilling the same things into our head over and over.

at least here in america, i don't know how they teach history everywhere else

Really? My curriculum always started where we stopped last year. Yes, some material is repeated at the beginning, but that's a refresher (like there's a refresher for math during the first couple of weeks). Some material might also be repeated if the crossed over to other historical events.

What the teacher probably meant was that Africa did not impact the foundation of American history as much as Europe did. Founders of America didn't come from Africa and our laws are not influenced by African laws. The chains of slavery began in Africa, but the most horrendous events relative to slavery happened in America (not Africa). I completely understand the emphasis on Europe and America, what problem do you see with this?

If you only studied kings and queens and pilgrims, I take it you never learned about WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam War... the likes? You've never had a course of world religions... That's sad. What district are you in? Your parents should really take it to the board of education.

My education, on the other hand, was impeccable and I have no grounds for complaint (except for the bad cafeteria food).

Oh, if pilgrims and kings and queens are boring to you, may I suggest taking an honors course or maybe even history AP? Those classes encourage a little more accelerated learning for your taste.

What do you mean it's time? There's plenty of time to learn plenty of subjects =\

I'm a prime example of it... my goal is to be a certified Scholar, and not just in one subject but as many as possible.
The problem with America is, it's selfish. It only cares about itself and anything that effects it. So America in a sense does teach World History, but only parts of the world that revolved around America.

So why is it that my friend, who's been a 9th grade biology teacher for a good four years now, can't find time to finish the last 3 chapters of the biology book? Why is it that my Algebra 2 teacher skipped around our book? Oh, that's right... she said "we don't have time to cover those chapters, omit them". If you research a little, this is true of most schools (they don't have time to cover everything they should be or things they want to cover). Not that I'm complaining because I turned out fine without finite until college.

Also, I don't know about you, but I have had a couple of friends in "regular" classes (as opposed to honors/AP/IB) who has trouble with the simple idea of the Constitution... Not everyone's in honors/AP/IB, you understand?

The problem with America is that there are a bunch of people who talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

You do realize that America is as "selfish" about its teaching world history as any other country is self in teaching its history, right? If you're in Vietnam (like I was), you'd learned Vietnamese history and know it until you're bored of it as these guys are bored of American history here. The same goes if you're in China, France, Russia.. (more so with the communist countries).

Why does it supprise so many of you that American history is focused on American history? If you want to learn world history, take a course in world history. If you want to learn about slavery specifically, study it on your own time. The same goes if you want to really go into depth with the Vietnam War, founding fathers... whatever. If you want to learn history from another country's perspective, go research on your own or enroll to take a course in a different country.

Scholars don't become scholars from going to high school alone. They become one through arduous work OUTSIDE of the classroom environment. Stop blaming America for your own lack of convictions.

Last but not least, tama, there's a saying for one such as you... "Jack of all trades, master of none". I'm not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing.

[brooklyneast05]

this is really just a reply to ur questions, not so much a debate

What the teacher probably meant was that Africa did not impact the foundation of American history as much as Europe did. Founders of America didn't come from Africa and our laws are not influenced by African laws. The chains of slavery began in Africa, but the most horrendous events relative to slavery happened in America (not Africa). I completely understand the emphasis on Europe and America, what problem do you see with this?

in a world history class, i think we should study the world, regardless of how much it had to do with America.

If you only studied kings and queens and pilgrims, I take it you never learned about WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam War... the likes? You've never had a course of world religions... That's sad. What district are you in? Your parents should really take it to the board of education.

no kidding, i find WWI, WWII, ect ect to be more interesting personally. but we seemed to barely get to these subjects, it was always towards the end of the year, and u know how high school kids are at the end of the year typically.

My education, on the other hand, was impeccable and I have no grounds for complaint (except for the bad cafeteria food).

i went to brooklyn technical high school. it was very good as far as things like math, science, ect which is what i do best at. but no, i didn't enjoy or feel like i got that much out of my history classes.

My education, on the other hand, was impeccable and I have no grounds Oh, if pilgrims and kings and queens are boring to you, may I suggest taking an honors course or maybe even history AP? Those classes encourage a little more accelerated learning for your taste.

i thought of this too, because i was in all the AP math and science classes. but the history was full both years, and when was a senior and had seating advantage over lower class men i didn't have room in my schedule.


i'm sure a lot if not most schools do a good job, my personal experience with it wasn't the best. but i'm studying more into what i want to study now in college, so it's ok i suppose.

[*Sandraaa*]

...Do you go to school?

Ouch. You just have to read her post very often to grasp her ideas, that's all.

[Spirited Away]

this is really just a reply to ur questions, not so much a debate
in a world history class, i think we should study the world, regardless of how much it had to do with America.
no kidding, i find WWI, WWII, ect ect to be more interesting personally. but we seemed to barely get to these subjects, it was always towards the end of the year, and u know how high school kids are at the end of the year typically.
i went to brooklyn technical high school. it was very good as far as things like math, science, ect which is what i do best at. but no, i didn't enjoy or feel like i got that much out of my history classes.
i thought of this too, because i was in all the AP math and science classes. but the history was full both years, and when was a senior and had seating advantage over lower class men i didn't have room in my schedule.
i'm sure a lot if not most schools do a good job, my personal experience with it wasn't the best. but i'm studying more into what i want to study now in college, so it's ok i suppose.

Ah, you didn't specified that it was a world history class. If that was the case, then I absolutely agree! World history is supposed to cover world history and should NOT have been focused on American history. Why did your school hire that bozo? Both the high schools that I went to offered classes with the distinction that you'll learn American history in one class and world history in another class, and the curriculum was strictly enforced.

It's unfortunate that students at your school have to sacrifice one aspect of their studies for another.

Anyway.... goodnight!

[illriginal]

So why is it that my friend, who's been a 9th grade biology teacher for a good four years now, can't find time to finish the last 3 chapters of the biology book? Why is it that my Algebra 2 teacher skipped around our book? Oh, that's right... she said "we don't have time to cover those chapters, omit them". If you research a little, this is true of most schools (they don't have time to cover everything they should be or things they want to cover). Not that I'm complaining because I turned out fine without finite until college.

I dunno, maybe because in America, students only go to school 5 days out of the week? I'm sure there's a logical explanation as to why teachers can't finish the full course properly. Something is mathematically incorrect, that's for sure.

If you did a lil research, you'd realize America's education compared to most of the world, is shit. Education in the U.S. isn't thorough enough.

Also, I don't know about you, but I have had a couple of friends in "regular" classes (as opposed to honors/AP/IB) who has trouble with the simple idea of the Constitution... Not everyone's in honors/AP/IB, you understand?

And I should care... because? I know most of the U.S. Constitution, for example... I know I don't have to pay taxes and that the IRS can't do shit to me. In fact I can plant, grow, and harvest marijuana and the U.S. Government technically can't do shit to me either. Why? Because it's the American way, I can use the Constitution to fight many laws that ignorant Americans don't know how to fight. It's not my fault people don't have the ambition to learn and that they just go to school to pass it and move on. Pffft....

In Middle School, I got a 99% on my FCAT, I was already accepted to Duke University before I even started highschool.

You think there's too much to study in highschool? LOL Do yourself a favor, go study outside of America. Go get a real lesson in education... not some bastardized, half ass, weak education.

The problem with America is that there are a bunch of people who talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

Exactly... wanna test me? I don't live in the U.S. by the way. C'mon choose a topic, astrology, astronomy, optical physics, physics, numerology, religion, world history, politics, mythology, philosophy, arithmetics, culture, evolution, psychology, sociology, blah blah... I can go on forever (not literally). Should I boast of my "Americanized IQ score" LOL It was a 156. My European IQ score, 157. I can talk the talk and walk the walk, educationally and physically. Thank you very much.

You do realize that America is as "selfish" about its teaching world history as any other country is self in teaching its history, right?

Really? Have you ever studied in Italy? I only went for 4 quarters and a semester. Have you seen a World History book from the University of Italy, well John Cabot University (I had to buy my English translated books from their book store)? It's about 3 times thicker than the World History, Art History, Medieval Studies books put together from Cambridge University (yes serious). Have you ever heard of Cambridge? (I'm sure you have), right after high school I was sent there on a full scholarship for 4 years. I got bored and decided to go travel a bit around the world and study internationally.

I studied Theoretical Physics in Trieste, Italia, also I attended at S.I.S.S.A. which I didn't even pay a dime for (not even for the essentials/books). They actually paid for my education there also. I'm pretty well rounded in international studies, in fact I was even going to a University in Dominican Republic and they taught American History there, as well as European, and specifically Mongolian.

Why does it supprise so many of you that American history is focused on American history? If you want to learn world history, take a course in world history. If you want to learn about slavery specifically, study it on your own time. The same goes if you want to really go into depth with the Vietnam War, founding fathers... whatever. If you want to learn history from another country's perspective, go research on your own or enroll to take a course in a different country.

I believe I was speaking of World History, and how that in America, they don't teach much about the world, unless it was nations in which revolved around the U.S. American history doesn't even teach you much about our founding fathers, in fact I learned of America's founding fathers being masons and theologists. But of course, as usual, it was half-assed. We never got personal with America's history. And there's too many lies fed to us through books in American education.

Scholars don't become scholars from going to high school alone. They become one through arduous work OUTSIDE of the classroom environment. Stop blaming America for your own lack of convictions.

I advise you to keep your assumptions of me limited... provoking me is pretty nasty, just take a look at my warning level You don't know jack shit about me (no offense), and after reading this little paragraph I'm now getting annoyed. Never make assumptions about me if you're planning to even have a discussion with me.

Last but not least, tama, there's a saying for one such as you... "Jack of all trades, master of none". I'm not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing.

I say you're makin it seem like a bad thing, just because I read what you quoted me a few times and it seems as if you're offended by my dogging American education. I have many skills in many things and I look for perfection in all my skills. Practice makes perfect right? Repetition? Even reading a book 3-4 times just to be able to memorize almost every word for word of every page of that book. How an obese human looks at food and craves it and wants to gobble it up like a sloppy slob of a swine, is the way I see books. Books must overwhelm me in education in order for me to be satisfied.

I'm not trying to act like a know it all, cuz the fact is... no matter what someone's gonna be smarter than you and or more experienced than you in one way or another. So that's not the case, I read that specific quote and it only made me arrogant (making assumptions and testing my knowledge expecting me to feel defeated causes a boost of arrogance).

Anyways good luck with your studies... I will be a certified Scholar. That's a fact.

[ReggieM]

i support tama!!!!

[Rubeus-Hagrid]

We do, it's called Thanks Giving. You know they arrive here and made friends with the Native Americans and the Native taught them some things ( Not going to get into detial, we all know the story). White people celebrated the native by killing them and gave thanks and Thanks Giving Holiday was born. The end

Long story short.

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[Kontroll]

I think when you're not ignorant about it, racism is funny. I call my friend a spik or beaner all the time and it strengthens our relationship. Because we aren't afraid to say what we want.

Don't you think that would work on a giant scale? I don't see how name calling is bad. I mean, yeah, it's stereotyping, but it's funny. Call me cracker, or whatever. I don't care. But if you say that I can't call you coon, or spik, or kike, or whatever, then that's racist right there. We should just laugh it off.

Now, if you say some one is less than you because of their race, then sure, that's wrong. But name calling shouldn't be. I mean, comics get away with it. So, what makes them more special?

[brooklyneast05]

I think when you're not ignorant about it, racism is funny.

racism isn't funny unless ur ignorant

[xburnoutx00]

Ouch. You just have to read her post very often to grasp her ideas, that's all.

The posts she was making in this topic didn't sound very educated. But if you say so.

I think when you're not ignorant about it, racism is funny. I call my friend a spik or beaner all the time and it strengthens our relationship. Because we aren't afraid to say what we want.

Don't you think that would work on a giant scale? I don't see how name calling is bad. I mean, yeah, it's stereotyping, but it's funny. Call me cracker, or whatever. I don't care. But if you say that I can't call you coon, or spik, or kike, or whatever, then that's racist right there. We should just laugh it off.

Now, if you say some one is less than you because of their race, then sure, that's wrong. But name calling shouldn't be. I mean, comics get away with it. So, what makes them more special?

I'm not racist - but I call all my black friends racist names. It's nothing personal - it's just funny. Plus, I don't mean it seriously.

[1angel3]

...Do you go to school?
And for what it's worth - Thanksgiving isn't a 'white pride day'.

I didn't say it was

[illriginal]

racism isn't funny unless ur ignorant

LOL f**kin white people and wanna be white people man... I swear. They're just useless and are the disease of cultures in the world.


Now that's racist.

(No... I'm not racist )

[brooklyneast05]

i duno if ur agreeing with me or disagreeing

but im glad to hear u aren't racist




edit:
nvm that agreeing or disagreeing thing
i read ur post wrong or something. i have a fever, im delirious , i understand what ur saying

[illriginal]

But is it really that funny? No. It's only funny in between you and your friends. Racism isn't funny. Racist names are "funny" in between you and your friends.

Can you say this with confidence?
Would you walk up to any black person and call them these names?

I'm just pointing out that this explanation you have is pretty twisted. Don't get used to it. Things may be cool within a sheltered area, but in the real world you can't throw around racist names and get a laugh back all the time.
This isn't just blacks.

lol one day they'll get the brutal reality. When they slip up using a racial slur, and there just happens to be a person of that race that just over heard them. Hopefully he aint a psycho murderer who will drag them into the bushes and slit their throats. And he'll just woop their asses while they tell the man, please just mature up, stop being so ignorant!!! they're just words, please stop LOL

damn I can really hate humans sometimes =\

[xburnoutx00]

But is it really that funny? No. It's only funny in between you and your friends. Racism isn't funny. Racist names are "funny" in between you and your friends.

Can you say this with confidence?
Would you walk up to any black person and call them these names?

I'm just pointing out that this explanation you have is pretty twisted. Don't get used to it. Things may be cool within a sheltered area, but in the real world you can't throw around racist names and get a laugh back all the time.
This isn't just blacks.

I never said that I would go up to anyone and say something like that - because I know it's wrong. I honestly don't think that calling someone a name like that is racist. I know people get offended by it, but I don't think that just because you call someone a name makes you racist. Saying that you hate [insert race here] is racist. I think that calling a black person by any of those names is more like a stereotype.

[brooklyneast05]

i'm still not understanding why u would in the first place. i don't see how its funny?

[xburnoutx00]

I guess I worded what I wrote up there wrong. I don't think it's funny to call anyone a name like that, I meant it's funny when I say it to my friends. They don't take offence to it.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. :]
Does it make sense now?

[brooklyneast05]

I guess I worded what I wrote up there wrong. I don't think it's funny to call anyone a name like that, I meant it's funny when I say it to my friends. They don't take offence to it.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. :]
Does it make sense now?

ah not really
i guess i've just been called names like that in a "non-friendly" way
and so i don't think i'm ever going to understand how they are funny or why anyone would use them. i understand that ur friends dont take offense to them. i just personally don't think anyone should be ok with anyone using them. i don't allow my friends to call me anything like that.

but yea, what ur saying, i hear a lot
i think we just have a lot different experience with these names

[xburnoutx00]

I understand where you're coming from with being called names and stuff. I mean, I've never been called a name but people have been hostile to me for being Jewish.

There are some words I don't use around anyone though. I just think they're too disrespectful even to just play around with them.

[Spirited Away]

I dunno, maybe because in America, students only go to school 5 days out of the week? I'm sure there's a logical explanation as to why teachers can't finish the full course properly. Something is mathematically incorrect, that's for sure.

If you did a lil research, you'd realize America's education compared to most of the world, is shit. Education in the U.S. isn't thorough enough.

Let's start here because I find your research fascinatingly skewed, statistics wise.

Compared to the rest of the world, America's education system produce more college graduates. Let's us take Asian countries, for example, because I know them best. If you compare high school or college level students from Asia to high school or college level students in America, you'll find that the Asians are smarter and will generally do better in school. However, if you base your argument that America's education is the worst on this comparison, you are sorely biased.

You do understand that only the smart students who come from financially stable families can afford to go to high school through college? In America, on the other hand, students who are below average in income and grade wise all have a chance at high school and college. That is why our system seems like "shit", it is a melting pot of the non-elite and the elite compared to the elite students in Asia.

And I should care... because? I know most of the U.S. Constitution, for example... I know I don't have to pay taxes and that the IRS can't do shit to me. In fact I can plant, grow, and harvest marijuana and the U.S. Government technically can't do shit to me either. Why? Because it's the American way, I can use the Constitution to fight many laws that ignorant Americans don't know how to fight. It's not my fault people don't have the ambition to learn and that they just go to school to pass it and move on. Pffft....

Wait, what? You didn't get it. I was making a point that not everyone studies at the same level. We have honors classes here for those interested in accelerated learning and regular classes for those who takes longer to understand material. Not everyone is smart.

But let's continue. Where do you get that the IRS can't do anything to you? If that's the case, then don't you think no one in America would pay their taxes? Have you heard of social security?

And... can you please point to me where the Constitution allows the average Joe to grow marijuana please? This is interesting case law.

In Middle School, I got a 99% on my FCAT, I was already accepted to Duke University before I even started highschool.

You think there's too much to study in highschool? LOL Do yourself a favor, go study outside of America. Go get a real lesson in education... not some bastardized, half ass, weak education.

And I should be impressed? Sorry, I'm not a very ambitious individual, I'm quite content with being mediocre. I did study outside of America, fyi, I mentioned this in that same post.

And I said this already, but must I remind you that the rest of the world sends their best and brightest to America for its "bastardized, half ass, weak education"? Why do you think that is?

Exactly... wanna test me? I don't live in the U.S. by the way. C'mon choose a topic, astrology, astronomy, optical physics, physics, numerology, religion, world history, politics, mythology, philosophy, arithmetics, culture, evolution, psychology, sociology, blah blah... I can go on forever (not literally). Should I boast of my "Americanized IQ score" LOL It was a 156. My European IQ score, 157. I can talk the talk and walk the walk, educationally and physically. Thank you very much.

And again, should I be impressed by this? This whole argument is no more than a stage for you to gloat of your achievements, I see. I'm not interested in testing you online, nor is there any need for you to prove your worth to me. I'm just a mediocre college student. Calm down.

The best way to prove yourself, if you must satisfy that libido, is to publish a book on any of the topics you listed there. I promise I will be among the first to buy it from you and praise the expertise you claim to own.

Really? Have you ever studied in Italy? I only went for 4 quarters and a semester. Have you seen a World History book from the University of Italy, well John Cabot University (I had to buy my English translated books from their book store)? It's about 3 times thicker than the World History, Art History, Medieval Studies books put together from Cambridge University (yes serious). Have you ever heard of Cambridge? (I'm sure you have), right after high school I was sent there on a full scholarship for 4 years. I got bored and decided to go travel a bit around the world and study internationally.


I studied Theoretical Physics in Trieste, Italia, also I attended at S.I.S.S.A. which I didn't even pay a dime for (not even for the essentials/books). They actually paid for my education there also. I'm pretty well rounded in international studies, in fact I was even going to a University in Dominican Republic and they taught American History there, as well as European, and specifically Mongolian.

I was never able to afford to study abroad. I won a $2000 scholarship to go to France, but that would have only covered half of my tuition there, so I missed that chance, too.

Anyway, I do believe you completely missed the point =). We were speaking of high school level, of which I still believe that our courses in world history are comparable to any other country's attempt at teaching world history. However, if you want to compare this at college level, I assure you, our world history classes aren't that bad =).

Of the thickest books in University of Italy, how many students can claim to have read them? The same can be said in America, of course, but at least, we can still boast a slightly higher rate of literacy than Italy.

On a last note on this, I obviously cannot boast such a high level of education (not many can), but America do send their brightest students abroad on full scholarships. What is your point on this? Are you wanting to say that no student in America has the same education as you, if not better?

I believe I was speaking of World History, and how that in America, they don't teach much about the world, unless it was nations in which revolved around the U.S. American history doesn't even teach you much about our founding fathers, in fact I learned of America's founding fathers being masons and theologists. But of course, as usual, it was half-assed. We never got personal with America's history. And there's too many lies fed to us through books in American education.

Where do you get this? My own education about world history is quite well rounded. And because I was never ambitious, I didn't care to do much outside research and yet, I dare say I'm as up-to-date with world history as any other average [insert country here] student. I had projects in American History AP classes that required us to research the topics in detail. (There were two AP courses because in one year, we covered the time of its founding to the mid 1800's and in the second year, we covered from then to modern day). Textbook education is half-assed, but in higher level courses, textbooks weren't the only required reading.

You're confusing me here. If you took one of the higher level courses, you should have been quite content with your American history education. The two classes actually had me working hard those two years.

I advise you to keep your assumptions of me limited... provoking me is pretty nasty, just take a look at my warning level You don't know jack shit about me (no offense), and after reading this little paragraph I'm now getting annoyed. Never make assumptions about me if you're planning to even have a discussion with me.

Your advice is appreciated, but misdirected. What was I assuming? FYI, I cannot see your warning leve (only mods can), but even if it was in the red zone, why should I care? You do realize I've been around cB since the near begining right? I've seen worse/better. Thanks.

I was not assuming anything about you. Had you been the scholar you claim to you be/will be, I think you would have understood. You quoted me saying that time is an issue that explains why high school students do not get to study every aspect of American history. Then, you started bragging on your own goals and how you have time. Well, more power to you, but again, you don't become a scholar because of what you learned in school. You become one by learning things outside of the classroom. Don't you? Are you saying that everyone who study in school alone (and have no access outside research) can become a scholar?

You're taking this too personally when I wasn't being personal. Take a deep breath and count to one hundred.

I say you're makin it seem like a bad thing, just because I read what you quoted me a few times and it seems as if you're offended by my dogging American education. I have many skills in many things and I look for perfection in all my skills. Practice makes perfect right? Repetition? Even reading a book 3-4 times just to be able to memorize almost every word for word of every page of that book. How an obese human looks at food and craves it and wants to gobble it up like a sloppy slob of a swine, is the way I see books. Books must overwhelm me in education in order for me to be satisfied.

I'm not trying to act like a know it all, cuz the fact is... no matter what someone's gonna be smarter than you and or more experienced than you in one way or another. So that's not the case, I read that specific quote and it only made me arrogant (making assumptions and testing my knowledge expecting me to feel defeated causes a boost of arrogance).

Anyways good luck with your studies... I will be a certified Scholar. That's a fact.

Ah, well it's your own opinion and you're entitled. I myself am also "a jack of all trades", though I am planing to master something soon. Thank you for your well wishes, I will need them.

I look forward to seeing the product of your non-bastardized, non-half-assed, strong education. A non-BS book will suffice.

[illriginal]

Let's start here because I find your research fascinatingly skewed, statistics wise.

Compared to the rest of the world, America's education system produce more college graduates. Let's us take Asian countries, for example, because I know them best. If you compare high school or college level students from Asia to high school or college level students in America, you'll find that the Asians are smarter and will generally do better in school. However, if you base your argument that America's education is the worst on this comparison, you are sorely biased.

You do understand that only the smart students who come from financially stable families can afford to go to high school through college? In America, on the other hand, students who are below average in income and grade wise all have a chance at high school and college. That is why our system seems like "shit", it is a melting pot of the non-elite and the elite compared to the elite students in Asia.
Wait, what? You didn't get it. I was making a point that not everyone studies at the same level. We have honors classes here for those interested in accelerated learning and regular classes for those who takes longer to understand material. Not everyone is smart.

But let's continue. Where do you get that the IRS can't do anything to you? If that's the case, then don't you think no one in America would pay their taxes? Have you heard of social security?

And... can you please point to me where the Constitution allows the average Joe to grow marijuana please? This is interesting case law.
And I should be impressed? Sorry, I'm not a very ambitious individual, I'm quite content with being mediocre. I did study outside of America, fyi, I mentioned this in that same post.

And I said this already, but must I remind you that the rest of the world sends their best and brightest to America for its "bastardized, half ass, weak education"? Why do you think that is?
And again, should I be impressed by this? This whole argument is no more than a stage for you to gloat of your achievements, I see. I'm not interested in testing you online, nor is there any need for you to prove your worth to me. I'm just a mediocre college student. Calm down.

The best way to prove yourself, if you must satisfy that libido, is to publish a book on any of the topics you listed there. I promise I will be among the first to buy it from you and praise the expertise you claim to own.

I was never able to afford to study abroad. I won a $2000 scholarship to go to France, but that would have only covered half of my tuition there, so I missed that chance, too.

Anyway, I do believe you completely missed the point =). We were speaking of high school level, of which I still believe that our courses in world history are comparable to any other country's attempt at teaching world history. However, if you want to compare this at college level, I assure you, our world history classes aren't that bad =).

Of the thickest books in University of Italy, how many students can claim to have read them? The same can be said in America, of course, but at least, we can still boast a slightly higher rate of literacy than Italy.

On a last note on this, I obviously cannot boast such a high level of education (not many can), but America do send their brightest students abroad on full scholarships. What is your point on this? Are you wanting to say that no student in America has the same education as you, if not better?

Where do you get this? My own education about world history is quite well rounded. And because I was never ambitious, I didn't care to do much outside research and yet, I dare say I'm as up-to-date with world history as any other average [insert country here] student. I had projects in American History AP classes that required us to research the topics in detail. (There were two AP courses because in one year, we covered the time of its founding to the mid 1800's and in the second year, we covered from then to modern day). Textbook education is half-assed, but in higher level courses, textbooks weren't the only required reading.

You're confusing me here. If you took one of the higher level courses, you should have been quite content with your American history education. The two classes actually had me working hard those two years.
Your advice is appreciated, but misdirected. What was I assuming? FYI, I cannot see your warning leve (only mods can), but even if it was in the red zone, why should I care? You do realize I've been around cB since the near begining right? I've seen worse/better. Thanks.

I was not assuming anything about you. Had you been the scholar you claim to you be/will be, I think you would have understood. You quoted me saying that time is an issue that explains why high school students do not get to study every aspect of American history. Then, you started bragging on your own goals and how you have time. Well, more power to you, but again, you don't become a scholar because of what you learned in school. You become one by learning things outside of the classroom. Don't you? Are you saying that everyone who study in school alone (and have no access outside research) can become a scholar?

You're taking this too personally when I wasn't being personal. Take a deep breath and count to one hundred.
Ah, well it's your own opinion and you're entitled. I myself am also "a jack of all trades", though I am planing to master something soon. Thank you for your well wishes, I will need them.

I look forward to seeing the product of your non-bastardized, non-half-assed, strong education. A non-BS book will suffice.

Cool...

[Spirited Away]

Nice, I know. Haha.

[Ington]

Yom Hashoah is the Holocaust Remembrance day, and has nothing to do with race. Its a memorial for the people who died during the holocaust, which were mostly Jews. Judaism is a religion, and is not bound to race.

Also, in regards to the comments about America's education system, this debate thread and countless others prove that most posters from CB just post to flaunt their extreme Michael Moore style hate mongering opinions about America.

Other countries are actually as bad as people say they are.

[Spirited Away]

^ damn right!