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[*Mercy*]

We need to really toughen up our bashing policy.I mean yea, I know we are personified as Nazis, but it's not fair to have members get pushed away because of people like that.

Some people seem to forget that this site does not operate on their terms. Multiple people start shit just to start shit because they think it livens up the place.IT DOESN'T. IT PUSHES PEOPLE AWAY INTO THINKING WE ARE A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES.

When there are truly GOOD people on here, there's again the concern about how we are Nazis, but this accusation has come from a bunch of bitter "has-beens". What I'm thinking is that the simple verbal warning and warning doesn't work. Because you bust them in one topic and tell them "If you bash them lalalallal its a verbal warning" and they stop for 2 hours and then when they hear something they don't like or find foolish they go at it again like 2 teenage lovers. It's bullshit.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...view=getnewpost
Some of us, including myself have been guilty of in the past, come in to these kind of topics to "mock" or insult someone because they are young and are sexually exploring. I, personally, as much as I find some of the questions silly, have come to realize that they don't deserve this kind of treatment as they have come to a forum to ask for advice and help from people similar in age asking for things they might not be comfortable asking a friend IRL or searching online because they are afraid their parents might check up on them or something. The least we as a community can do is make them feel welcome and try to help them as best as we can. Even if she's 14 and didn't know the reason as to why she let her BF finger her, that's none of our business to belittle her on. It's her body; let her learn the good parts of that and the bad. That's whats it's all about.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=179744
Some of this wasn't so bad.. but a good majority of this was bickering and arguing and downgrading. As you can see the original poster was having some serious issues. Why should this person have to put up with name calling and stuff like that?

And then not to mention there the people who do the "Quote-reply with "LOL UR SO FUNNY". Shit like that adds gas to the fire. At some schools when a fight goes on, the people who fight get in trouble along with the people who watch/instigate the fight. That should be something to consider too. Maybe not a warning but reprimanding or giving a verbal warning might suffice.

I know this has been addressed so many times but...this is starting to becomes cB's reputation of spammers, assholes, n00bs and "Nazis".

This kind of behavior is something we shouldn't have to tolerate or put up with..

[demolished]

Tamacracker wasnt a considered member, in my opinion.

The first link isnt working.

people should be thinking before they act stupid. cB must not be known for idiots.

[*davinci*]

Steven: What about Tamacracker? First link works. Just look at the general tone of the rest of the comments in that thread.

Diana: Love that you're speaking out against this. You have spunk. :)

[demolished]

Nevermind about him. Reading his post just ticks me off. We're all different in giving out advices and explanation so ... i'm just going to let him off.

Yes, i understand the tone. It doesnt feel quite positive.

The first link, i dont even care aboutit. the topic and converstation is overrated, not interested in reading these junks. i only went through a few pages.

[Comptine]

i think part of the problem is the amount of young users we have on here. preteens seem particularly prone to posting incredibly stupid posts or being extremely immature. not that it would be right to ban a certain age group though.

there are certain members that will not be named but they find particular glee in being very abrasive, inconsiderate, and obnoxious. the internet is free rein on behavior. here, they can act with no serious consequences. there is very little that can be done to curb this behavior. i think if a particular member is seriously a big problem, i guess the only solution is to ban him/her.

members like that love to say that others are too sensitive or have no life for getting angry over the internet. but when they are such assholes, there's very little choice.

[*ersatz*]

^ What's funny is those members are actually older.

[Comptine]

well, that's true.

i also think it's funny how sometimes they maintain that they actually are good people in IRL and have alot friends.

but your personality tranlates in everything you say and do on this forum. if it doesn't then a) you're being fake and pretending to be something you aren't (poser/faker/loser) or b) you're too much of a coward to act like the real-a-hole-you in real life in fear of actual consequences.

[*karmakiller*]

There are some topics on this site, that are repetitive and somewhat common sense. I don't feel there's a need for people to be mean to those who post topics like that. People should be able to come here in confidence; they shouldn't have to worry about someone being mean to what they post and second guessing themselves.

The thing that gets me, is that the people who post mean things can control themselves. It isn't in real life, so it's not like they "accidentally let something slip". They can read over their posts before they submit their feedback.

Yes, I've posted some sarcastic remarks to topics like that sometimes, and although I usually give them serious feedback about their issue it doesn't substitute for the sarcasm. Everyone always uses the excuse that "it's the internet" and people should take replies with a grain of salt, but not everyone does that and it's something people need to take into consideration before replying with smartass comments.

[*Moderator*]

I have to agree on this. There's more and more member bashing each passing day. A lot of members try to hide it within a number of limited posts. People do need to think before they type. People are just encouraged to fight back if there is someone engaging them. If we eliminate the excitement to comment back; we could end member bashing gradually.

[iDecay]

i think part of the problem is the amount of young users we have on here. preteens seem particularly prone to posting incredibly stupid posts or being extremely immature.

^ Reason why I said, "WHY AM I 14?! "

I'm really sarcastic most of the time, hmm.

Anyways.. Yeah, it's bad and everything everybody said above me. But how exactly are you guys going to stop this? I'm pretty sure a majority of the people who do make many posts like that can care less if they get punished. I've probably said this before, but it's just like high school here. There will always be people like that. Plus, this place would be VERY boring without it.

/ 2 cents

[demolished]

i think part of the problem is the amount of young users we have on here. preteens seem particularly prone to posting incredibly stupid posts or being extremely immature. not that it would be right to ban a certain age group though.

there are certain members that will not be named but they find particular glee in being very abrasive, inconsiderate, and obnoxious. the internet is free rein on behavior. here, they can act with no serious consequences. there is very little that can be done to curb this behavior. i think if a particular member is seriously a big problem, i guess the only solution is to ban him/her.

members like that love to say that others are too sensitive or have no life for getting angry over the internet. but when they are such assholes, there's very little choice.

Well, that's pretty natural for preteens, you know?
Preteen goes through all these mental crap, mood swings, act weird, and takes anger on internet.
i don't know. It's really what you called preteen and children.

As a response to the older member, they're sick and tired of seeing all these crap. They might as well bash them for it. It's just to overrate to hear typical old things. To be honest, I do get irritated to see repetitive stuff. It's just so dam old … but it really doesn't give us the right to bash the inexperienced little nuns. But, i had a choice weather i want to contribute the topic. This is one of the reason why i dont seem very active in this forum due to boredom.

I guess bashing is really fun thing to do when you're that experienced older member!

I admit that.

[*Sandraaa*]

Even if she's 14 and didn't know the reason as to why she let her BF finger her, that's none of our business to belittle her on. It's her body; let her learn the good parts of that and the bad. That's whats it's all about.

That is YOUR opinion! Don't force it down others' throat. I think it's RIDICULOUS being fingered at the young age of 14. It's MY opinion. Nobody bashed her, it's just your imagination playing silly tricks on you.
It is the girls forum right? Girls seeking advice? And how is telling her not to finger herself or that she's too young a bad adivce?
This is a VERY wrong example of bashing. It shouldn't even be here. If you're going to saction me for posting my opinions politely, then that's BS.

As for the other topic ... Resplendence said exactly what I was going to say.

[*superstitious*]

Plus, this place would be VERY boring without it.

This is one of the reason why i dont seem very active in this forum due to boredom.

I guess bashing is really fun thing to do when you're that experienced older member!

Honestly, that is part of the problem right there -
Public humiliation doesn't have to be the answer to boredom. It's not as if sarcasm isn't allowed, what is being talked about here are comments like these:

Your right, impressing me would mean having the brain capacity to say, "Wait, maybe I'm not ready."

Completely unecessary. I apologize for singling this person out, but it is a prime example of what Diana is referring to here.

That is YOUR opinion! Don't force it down others' throat. I think it's RIDICULOUS being fingered at the young age of 14. It's MY opinion. Nobody bashed her, it's just your imagination playing silly tricks on you.
It is the girls forum right? Girls seeking advice? And how is telling her not to finger herself or that she's too young a bad adivce?
This is a VERY wrong example of bashing. It shouldn't even be here. If you're going to saction me for posting my opinions politely, then that's BS.

Sandra, no one is saying that you aren't entitled to have and share your opinions. That's not what Diana is trying to say here. The key word here is tact.

You don't think fingering at 14 is a good idea. I don't either. However, I would just post something to the effect of.... you probably are not ready for that yet. Not something like OMG you dumbass. Stop posting these questions you retard.

For a group of Moderators who are perpetually accused of being "Nazi's", we have been extremely lenient on this issue. Point is, it's very clear in the Community Guidelines that personal attacks and member bashing isn't allowed.

PERSONAL ATTACKS
Flaming, trolling, member bashing-you name it-will not be tolerated here. If you're making an argument, it's always better to retort with reason and composure. Personal attacks are childish and have no place in these forums.

I know many have read this or have had it quoted to them before, but I'm going to go ahead and repeat it once more.

Diana is wanting to have a conversation about this and wants community input. I think that is fantastic of her to do, but the bottom line is that personal attacks are not allowed here. Period.

Instead of being rigid and dishing out warnings, it would be nice for folks to try to be courteous. By all means, say your opinions and give your advice, even if you think it isn't what the poster may want to hear. Honesty is the only way they will learn, especially when it's a younger poster with a legitimate concern. Sure, some of us will be thinking.... she can't be serious! But that doesn't mean that they aren't feeling some profound worry.

[*steve330*]

Jinkies...

Too bad most of the people who should read this won't.

[*MyMichelle*]

i think part of the problem is the amount of young users we have on here. preteens seem particularly prone to posting incredibly stupid posts or being extremely immature. not that it would be right to ban a certain age group though.

That is not the problem at all. I, myself, have made fun of younger users and their so-called "immature" questions, but really thinking about it: the younger groups are the ones that MAKE cB. They are the ones who obsess over their layouts, etc, and come to cB to find a community. Although, yes, their sex-related inquiries are somewhat irritating, and we all wish they would f**king use the search engine sometimes, it's still important that we remember that they are really the majority of cB, and they are what make cB more popular.


It's kind of similar to what Jusun said about "lowering" the standards of layout submissions. It's not that cB is not a respectable place, it's just that websites are usually built off publicity. And the public is not as, um, high-class as some of us.

Anyways, still, I must agree that even when I first joined cB, I thought everyone was a bunch of exclusive assholes. That was years ago. How can we plan to change that first impression of cB?

I try to be polite to almost everyone. Sometimes, it's just humor combined with apathy that I act aggressive / rude on the internet.

Edit: Also, on most of the dumb posts, there are a number of people who respond with actual, helpful advice.

[*superstitious*]

^ You're actually one of the ones I always appreciate in those forums. You are able to have fun with it, give decent advice and not intentionally humiliate anyone. Steve is the same way.

So absolutely, this isn't representative of everyone. =)

[*kryogenix*]

BITCH BITCH BITCH MOAN MOAN MOAN

Some people have to be treated harshly for them to understand that they're f**king retarded and they suck shit.

Mods need to quit worrying about being so politically correct all the time. f**kers.

[*davinci*]

Wanting to maintain a friendly environment is being too politically correct? Uh huh. Okay.

[*kryogenix*]

Ohhhh so now having a bad attitude is grounds for suspension? Mods, what will they think of next!

[1angel3]

I agree. Bashing shouldn't be tolerated anymore. I been bash before and called names because of my point of view on something.

[brooklyneast05]

half the time i don't even think its because anyones point of view, it seems like person just takes an extreme amount of pride in being really obnoxious at all times. i agree something needs to be done if possible

yes yes

[*kryogenix*]

How convenient, we can't criticize anyone anymore. Any time we question a mod's decision and call them out for it, it'll be labeled bashing. Some people need to accept that they suck, or go back to the womb and quit being pussies.

No wonder why this place has become so shitty.

[demolished]

It's more shitty when you're around, fellow.

[*kryogenix*]

Really now. Because I remember a time when I was here and the place had some really cool people here.

[demolished]

There aren’t any cool people for you now. You can move on.
Nothing will stays the same, let it go, and all you can do is reminisced.

[*kryogenix*]

Sorry guy. Rome is burning, and I've got a fiddle to play.

[*davinci*]

How convenient, we can't criticize anyone anymore. Any time we question a mod's decision and call them out for it, it'll be labeled bashing. Some people need to accept that they suck, or go back to the womb and quit being pussies.

No wonder why this place has become so shitty.

I hope you weren't referring to this:

BITCH BITCH BITCH MOAN MOAN MOAN

Some people have to be treated harshly for them to understand that they're f**king retarded and they suck shit.

Mods need to quit worrying about being so politically correct all the time. f**kers.

It's people like you with such a negative attitude that makes CB an unfriendly place. Don't put the blame completely on the mods. It's only member bashing if you break the member bashing rule. I'm sure you would hate for me to quote it for you.

Really now. Because I remember a time when I was here and the place had some really cool people here.

Really now. I remember a time with some really cool people here. And that time is now. If you miss your cool people, join them. Suggestions for improvement are always appreciated. You know what your problem is? You can no longer use tact when you're doing it.

[*kryogenix*]

I hope you weren't referring to this:

It's people like you with such a negative attitude that makes CB an unfriendly place. Don't put the blame completely on the mods. It's only member bashing if you break the member bashing rule. I'm sure you would hate for me to quote it for you.

I dunno, it seems like I've made quite a few friends recently.

Really now. I remember a time with some really cool people here. And that time is now. If you miss your cool people, join them. Suggestions for improvement are always appreciated. You know what your problem is? You can no longer use tact when you're doing it.

I love how you guys seem to think that I'm the only one.

[*Mercy*]

I love how you guys seem to think that I'm the only one.

They are welcome to leave with you too.Infact,Why dont you make your own forum..and do what you want on there?

[*davinci*]

I love how you guys seem to think that I'm the only one.

Why the generalization? And what makes you think that? I was quoting you. Hence, whatever I said would apply to you. There are others but you're the one who is most vocal and most tactless, imho.

[*kryogenix*]

They are welcome to leave with you too.Infact,Why dont you make your own forum..and do what you want on there?

Ohoho, who's being unwelcoming now?

Like I said, I have a fiddle to play.

[*Mercy*]

Ohoho, who's being unwelcoming now?

Like I said, I have a fiddle to play.

Im not saying your not welcome here.Because I was here for a bit when you were really sweet.But you have yourself made it known that you do not like this place,that you do not want to be here..Then why bother with all the trouble?

[*kryogenix*]

It's no trouble for me. In fact, it seems like you guys are the ones having a lot of trouble coming up with excuses to ban me.

[*davinci*]

Don't tell me this is just an act to be banned. Banning is used as a last resort; surely you would know that.

[*kryogenix*]

Speaking of last resorts...

[*davinci*]

No witty response to my post? :(

Why the generalization? And what makes you think that? I was quoting you. Hence, whatever I said would apply to you. There are others but you're the one who is most vocal and most tactless, imho.

[*kryogenix*]

Why the generalization? And what makes you think that? I was quoting you. Hence, whatever I said would apply to you. There are others but you're the one who is most vocal and most tactless, imho.

I was referring to the "joining them" part, but nice try.

[*tripvertigo*]

Heh.

I think people need to just calm down in general. It's fine and dandy when the entire community makes shit up about people and then bashes the hell out of them, basically LYNCHES them until they get fed up and leave the forum for a long term of absence (which HAS happened to at least 3 people).

But if it's one person against the community, all shit hits the fan, and mods start putting people in time-out.

I remember when we gave out suspensions and bans for REAL reasons, not for merely criticizing people maybe a little too harshly. There's no rule here that states you have to have a certain amount of tact.

After all people like kryo and I have done for this forum in the past, I think dealing with a little attitude is not a lot to ask for.

[*kryogenix*]

Oh, how soon they forget.

[*tripvertigo*]

What exactly has he done for this forum? I don't mean for this to sound rude, I'm honestly wondering. I think dealing with anyone's attitude is asking too much, because all members are supposed to be treated equally.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

[*davinci*]

From what I've seen, it's not a little attitude (and generally, a little attitude is tolerated) but even still, that shouldn't be a reason to excuse him.

[*tripvertigo*]

If it werent for him and a few other of the original xangans members, this place probably wouldnt be as successful as it is today. You think about that and learn to have some appreciation.

[Comptine]

If it werent for him and a few other of the original xangans members, this place probably wouldnt be as successful as it is today. You think about that and learn to have some appreciation.

but that doesn't give him or any original xangans members the right to be an a-hole.

yes, sometimes he's entertaining and tells things blunt and like it is, but more often than not, he does things to start shit and to be needlessly mean. that does not deserve any appreciation, no matter how long he's been here or what he's done.

[*tripvertigo*]

I wonder, has Jusun ever said anything about how many times I've bitched out other members just for having no sense of style?

Has he said anything about kyro's current attitude?

I remember when I raised some slight concern over seon ho's attitude in the past, and he just laughed it off.

the point is... who f**king cares?

[*kryogenix*]

I mean--that's your opinion, no one knows what would have really happened. You said probably. Even so--that's in the past now. I mean if it wasn't for Jusun this site wouldn't be here at all but you don't see him going around and bashing people either. In my opinion, there are members/moderators that have contributed an immense amount of effort into this site. They aren't expecting a reward.

Yes, a little attitude is okay from any member. That's always excused in leniency. But things done in the past like posting inappropriate pictures all over the forum, and spamming the whole forum..that should just not be tolerated because of what he presumably did a long time ago.

Wait wait wait, WHAT?

[*tripvertigo*]

i love how still no one has addressed my first post in this thread about how if its the entire community against one person for no f**king reason, bashing them to the point of forcing them to leave, it's just no big deal. it's all fun and games. if it's the other way around, everyone has to raise a big f**king stink.

[*tripvertigo*]

I believe I vaguely reffered to incidents involving at least 3 people.

Either way, this forum was a lot better when mods and admins were stern but also didnt have a stick two feet up their asses.

[*davinci*]

i love how still no one has addressed my first post in this thread about how if its the entire community against one person for no f**king reason, bashing them to the point of forcing them to leave, it's just no big deal. it's all fun and games. if it's the other way around, everyone has to raise a big f**king stink.

Who is "bashing" James?

[*tripvertigo*]

Who is "bashing" James?

WTF are you talking about?

[*kryogenix*]

Wait wait wait, WHAT?

I'm waiting for an answer.

[*davinci*]

WTF are you talking about?

You weren't referring to him? Then the community supposedly bashing the hell out of 3 members a while ago isn't relevant.

[*kryogenix*]

I have answered this question at least 10-15 times. C'mon James, you are more mature than this. You are bigger than this. You are over this. Let's get past this.

No, you've never answered this question. Every time I bring it up, you claim you've dealt with it already. If you're going to make claims, you better substantiate them.

[*tripvertigo*]

I'm sorry was this thread NOT referring to all member bashing incidents or am I just tripping here?

Why don't you just shut the f**k up?

edit://

yknow after brownsugar's most recent post, I can respect her approach. I may not agree with her 100% but at least she's not being a total pansy.


edit:// again://

that's only if she actually did "deal" with it. from kyro's post, it doesnt seem like she did.

[*kryogenix*]

I love the "that was then this is now" argument. I'll make sure to use that one next time.

[*tripvertigo*]

am i missing something here?
how is that picture inappropriate or offensive?

[*davinci*]

I'm sorry was this thread NOT referring to all member bashing incidents or am I just tripping here?

Why don't you just shut the f**k up?

edit://

yknow after brownsugar's most recent post, I can respect her approach. I may not agree with her 100% but at least she's not being a total pansy.

Sorry to use the 'that was then, this is now' argument but it is. You're not asking that question to the exact same group of people who were present when those 3 incidents occurred.

[*kryogenix*]

I PMed mzkandi already about that and she couldn't confirm them.

The only ones that she could positively confirm were:

k-r-y-o
k.r.y.o.

And I admitted to making those two in order to explain myself.

Again, you guys seem to forget that I'm not the only one who has a problem with the community.

[*tripvertigo*]

some of the people that have posted in this thread were there on those occasions. i am not referring only to staff members. I'm talking about this community as a whole and it's general attitude towards this type of thing.

[*kryogenix*]

Oh..that wasn't the picture. =] I don't remember what the picture was..but it was showing inappropriate parts of the body. There was two pictures. That picture I posted was of medicine I was reccomending him to take.

Conveniently omitting the ownage I handed out after that.

[*kryogenix*]

You guys are so predictable.

Once again, you act like I'm the only one.

In the mean time, wanna refresh our memory on why I was suspended then?

[xKatt]

I agree with Kryo... to a certain extent. No he's not alone; believe me, there's a lot of people who agree with him but just don't speak up because they're afraid of being gang raped by all the mods.

I really, really love the community on here, but I feel like there's a definite respect system based on popularity, and yeah the staff does seem like a bunch of nazi's. This site seems like a school more than an online forum. Every time people get into heated discussion, it's forced down by mods who are not any older than the people involved and yet they act like teachers who deserve more respect than everyone else. Sometimes we do need to bash other people and there's things that need to be said (that are being prevented from being said).

Kryo, quite honestly, I don't think you belong on here though. Believe me, I'm not new to trolling (and this place is seriously the easiest, most perfect place for trolling ). If you find a good forum that's been desentisized to shock images, brutal honesty and extreme political incorrectness, tell me (that's not YTMNSFW).

[*tripvertigo*]

kryo's just making a statement. who are you to tell anyone that they dont "Belong" here? He's been here longer than most of us.

[Comptine]

i love how this topic was started, essentially, in hopes of making cB a little bit nicer and now, people are arguing back and forth.

[dustbunny]

^ haha i actually wanted to reply earlier, but i didn't want to insert my opinion in the midst of their little thing back there

well what i wanted to say was, i discovered this site probably, 2 years ago? and i guess i was a sort of "lurker" for TWO WHOLE years cause i'd see all the stuff that was going on in the forums and got intimidated and didn't wanna join o_O i was like, WOW I AM GOING TO GET MURDERED ALIVE. anyways i grew up and finally joined. point? for the litto kiddies that are checking out this place, there sure are some people here that people would consider about before they wanted to join? i mean, who really wants to join this place if everyone's making fun of their questions or whatnot. if you find it stupid, just ignore it. you're not obligated to post in every single topic.

[adolelolz]

I'm an extremely sarcastic a-hole. People have told me that to my face. However, when someone is asking a question that WE all know is stupid, but the topic starter honestly needs help with, I can just stop and know that my sarcasm is not needed there. It doesn't make for any more interesting conversation, and it doesn't help.

And honestly, I hate to say this (because I feel I've heard it too many times), but...You never know what people have gone through and what personally hurts them.

I know from experience that it's not that hard to stop being an ass for at least two seconds. These "bashers" know when not to post...They just need to stop being immature and actually press the back button before they press "Add Reply."

Another thing.

I actually like Kryogenix. He gives me a good laugh now and then. But seriously...Grow up. Please. Stop picking fights and just have a civil conversation. Stop pointing fingers at everyone else. And before I unwillingly start anything: I'm not saying you're the only one that does this.

I think that's all.

[*MyMichelle*]

Once again, I'd like to put my input. Kryo is not the problem, and he is not the topic of this thread. Although I do not care much about what Kryo does, etc., by arguing with him back and forth in this topic, it just shows how much attention we give to him.

I think what Diana was originally upset about was the lack of respect, honesty, and genuine answers to members who ask, yes, immature questions from a lot of people - not just one.

It does appear to be a trend to troll nowadays on cB. IMO, most of the people who do it are completely pathetic. The only few that I personally have seen that have been actually successful at it are SeonHo and Kryo. Others are pretty lame, and their comments are stupid and not even remotely funny. And while I do find some of Kryo's posts funny, etc., I do not agree with how he constantly, relentlessly argues with the mods.

I think when one person responds first to a "stupid" thread w/ a sarcastic, apathetic remark, that causes a sort of domino effect - it makes everyone fall down from their usual standards of kindness and also respond with another "witty" remark.

But what can we do about that? The mods cannot just make a rule stating "there can only be a ratio of troll comments to helpful comments of 1:5"

I'd also like to point out that many of the sexual / pregnancy questions are from people who are frantic and will probably never come back to cB after they get their answer. They simply search for a forum that has topics related to sex, and they want an answer fast-fast-fast. Once they get it - "you're probably not pregnant" - they have no more use for that forum.

[xKatt]

kryo's just making a statement. who are you to tell anyone that they dont "Belong" here? He's been here longer than most of us.

... Dude, I'm not attacking him, so there's no reason for you to defend him. He's said it before, that CreateBlog's the easiest place to troll and if that's the only reason why he's here, he shouldn't be surprised that people are getting pissed.

I think he should stay, but a lot of cB is very annoyed with him.

[*tripvertigo*]

cB is probably the easiest place to troll, probably because a lot of the staff are pretty fickle about when they want to enforce the rules, and when they want to change them to better suit each situation they come across. While half the staff is too chickenshit to do anything, the other half comes down way too hard. there's no middle grounds, and it causes a lot of tension. so yes. it's easy to troll because the staff doesnt seem to have their shit together. (no offense to the few people who have done a fairly decent job)

i dont think anyone is surprised that a lot of people are getting pissed with kryo. i think that's the OBJECTIVE here.

the fact is, the quality of this forum, in the eyes of 90% of the old regime, has seriously downgraded, not because of the content or resources, but because of the poor management coming from the majority of new staff members. I think micron has done a great job with createblog, and he probably doesnt control much of what happens here on a more day-to-day basis but i remember when we were a little more "selective" in choosing new members of the staff. So yes, a lot of us "has-beens" (as this thread's creator put it) have a lot to say about it.

[Spirited Away]

When someone is "mature" enough to let a guy finger her, she should be able to withstand some name calling. If she's not mature, but she allowed a guy to touch her in that way, then she deserves to have some sense knocked into her. Obviously, no one else did.

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

A community isn't about being someone's mother, it's about good people, bad people, and the in-betweens. That's how people learn things. Yes, do control the bad, but to expel them is making this community... fake. A make believe happy place, where everyone accepts what you do as right and no one will think you're stupid for doing stupid things.

If the goal here IS to play "mother", and if I was the girl's mother, I'd appreciate someone telling my daughter how stupid she is. I'm not calling her stupid for being curious about sex. I'm calling her stupid because she's clueless about the consequences of sexual escapades and blindly participated anyway.

[brooklyneast05]

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

i dont see why anyone has to bash other members
nothing comes from telling a stupid immature child that they are stupid and immature. some person over the internet talking shit to a little 14 year old girl doesn't make her better. and next time she's in the situation she isn't gonna think "oh wait, someone on createblog told me id be an idiot if i did this, i better stop"

some of the posts on here are EXTREMELY stupid, pointless, and repeated, and yeah i find them annoying, so therefore i hit the back button and go to another one.

shrugs

[Spirited Away]

You don't see why? Well, I do, more power to me, I suppose. I guess this is what's called being a "pussy" is all about.

Wow, so your job in this world is to make people feel good about themselves all the time? Good luck! You're my hero.

Seriously, people need to grow some cojones. Whatever happened to sticks and stones?

Yes, feelings will be hurt, but that'll make a person question his/her own actions, and perhaps, be smarter for the next round so that he/she won't be stupid.

And no, not "someone on cB told me that this is stupid so I'll stop", it's "someone on cB said I'm an idiot for doing this... why?". When people question themselves, they learn.

[brooklyneast05]

Wow, so your job in this world is to make people feel good about themselves all the time? Good luck! You're my hero.

i don't believe i ever said that
how am i making anyone feel good when i don't even respond?
i said that when i see ridiculous posts like that i ignore them, because i know it's pointless to reply.
i don't even think people like that really come back
i don't think i'm a better person for bashing immature kids
i just don't see them getting "smarter" by people in a forum trash talking them
but i guess if u think ur making them smarter, then keep at it

[Spirited Away]

i don't believe i ever said that
how am i making anyone feel good when i don't even respond?
i said that when i see ridiculous posts like that i ignore them, because i know it's pointless to reply.
i don't even think people like that really come back
i don't think i'm a better person for bashing immature kids
i just don't see them getting "smarter" by people in a forum trash talking them
but i guess if u think ur making them smarter, then keep at it

... you missed the point. My witty sarcasm has gone to waste. R.I.P.

You said you don't see why anyone has to bash anyone else, even though I already explained. You also said "someone talking shit to a 14 won't make her feel better"... and I'm responding with a resounding "SO WHAT?!". No one is here to make anyone feel good. It's not anyone's job. If we happen to make each other happy, then that's good, if we don't... Oh well.

Thanks, not that I need anyone to tell me what to do, but thanks. You don't see it, but it happens. Read Aflred Adler's "Understanding Human Nature" =)

[brooklyneast05]

You also said "someone talking shit to a 14 won't make her feel better"

no i didn't, i said it won't make her better
i didn't say anything about feeling better

u are so witty
i duno why i bothered posting
i'll just read from now on
because i can't explain to anyone why it's a waste of time to bash little kids
u either understand that or u don't

[Spirited Away]

no i didn't, i said it won't make her better
i didn't say anything about feeling better

u are so witty
i duno why i bothered posting
i'll just read from now on
because i can't explain to anyone why it's a waste of time to bash little kids
u either understand that or u don't

Right, tomato, tomahto.

So why do you even care? If you don't care about the girl's feelings, then what business is it of yours that someone else cares enough to tell her that she did something stupid?

It's obviously not a waste of time to these people, so what business is it of yours to tell them what you think they should to do and what you think they shouldn't do?

Understanding something doesn't mean we have to accept it.

Yes, I am rather witty most of the time. Thanks.

If cB want to parent these kids then there'll be bashing involved. If cB do not want to be a parent, then let someone else do the bashing (so long as it's not extreme, that is).

[brooklyneast05]

sounds good

[Spirited Away]

Great. Now let post some more links to these topics so I can tell these kids a piece of my mind.

Or I'll just hunt for 'em.

MmmmKay...

[Spirited Away]

"gang-bashed" tee hee. Good one.

[*Sandraaa*]

Go Fae, go Fae, go Fae. *does the chicken dance*

[xKatt]

... but sometimes the bashing is warranted. I mean, come on. What are you supposed to say when a 14 year old thinks she's pregnant because a guy fingered her?

Like you said, cB has lots of kids on it. You can't possibly expect us to be mature enough to pass up a perfect opportunity to make fun of someone!!

[demolished]

Not all children know better. I completely agreed that we should be more considerate, not bashing. Bashing is not the answer to a person's error. For me, it's "okay" to bash a bit ... but don’t even drag the red border further. We people as a family should be taking care of each other, understanding, and ask positive questions. In relationship forum, I encountered a person with major problems for providing rude advices. I mean, what the f**k! Someone should be considered to someone's very different, inexperienced, and seeking to be a better person. It flips me out to read this mother f**ker's post that doesn’t know the purpose of "relationship" forum and is posting crap to humiliate others. Jesus Christ.

I know, cB doesn’t have an active professional adviser, but we don’t need it. Just help out!


Am i getting off topic?

[freeflow]

^ Agreed.

I believe majority of the people on this site are mature enough to pass it up. You don't need a two-three page topic full of members bashing on one person because she didn't know any better. Just because you happen to know that its a dumb question, doesn't mean they see the same. Come on now you can't tell me when you were younger you didn't ask at least one dumb question in your life. It might not be like the ones we're using as an example, but still. Be mature. Pass it up if you see WAY to many people doing it. There is no way anyone is asking you to stop bashing for good... completely.. forever.(as already mentioned)because it won't happen and no one wants this place to turn into a incredibly goody goody place but bring it down a bit. Bashing may be fun for you, but some people may be serious when they post questions like that. Maybe some members won't be mature and will bash. But some people can actually just answer the question and get on with that. If you want to say something about it later , on your own time outside. GO AHEAD. But at least try to take a more mature approach.

By the way.. when a 14yr old girl asks you that question.. the short and sweet reply would be to answer the question. Coming up with a whole sarcastic type reply so that you can sound (to some) superior and (to others) kind of stupid is a waste of time. (In my opinion) Maybe not to you but its not called for in every situation which is kind of the point here. Do it at a minimum is all that some people would actually like to see around here.

[*MyMichelle*]

I love when people make fun of people their own age.

[*Elba*]

I love when people make fun of people their own age.

So do I

[*MyMichelle*]

Hi Elba *waves







Shit, so this is off-topic, but the title refers to what I want to say:


The mods should f**king loosen up sometimes... especially in the Lounge / chat-ish areas. I have nothing against a single mod at all... but I don't see why Diana should have been punished considering they were basically posts with some sort of topic. Mods should be there to be regular members with powers to close and move threads, not to be our school counselors / principals and control everything we do. And honestly, I think it'd be more fun if the mods didn't have to be so uptight on cB all the time. In CBC where the mods can freely talk and be themselves, it's chaos - sure - but it's still a much more peaceful and less dramatic environment.

[*Mercy*]

... but sometimes the bashing is warranted. I mean, come on. What are you supposed to say when a 14 year old thinks she's pregnant because a guy fingered her?

Like you said, cB has lots of kids on it. You can't possibly expect us to be mature enough to pass up a perfect opportunity to make fun of someone!!

This is the worlds SILLIEST statement i have ever seen.

If you really think that you are incapable(and i dont mean this directly to you) to have self control,little one then what is your purpose for being on a forum in the first place if you just are going to be imature and laugh at everyone who deem "stupid".

Respect is a right that everyone deserves N00b or not.Member bashing to the extreme of degrading is never ever warranted.

The mods should f**king loosen up sometimes... especially in the Lounge / chat-ish areas. I have nothing against a single mod at all... but I don't see why Diana should have been punished considering they were basically posts with some sort of topic. Mods should be there to be regular members with powers to close and move threads, not to be our school counselors / principals and control everything we do. And honestly, I think it'd be more fun if the mods didn't have to be so uptight on cB all the time. In CBC where the mods can freely talk and be themselves, it's chaos - sure - but it's still a much more peaceful and less dramatic environment.

My punishment was fair and I was damn lucky i didnt get thrown off for good.And I really kinda wish that we would all move on from it.Though i do appreciate everyone whos comming to my defense.Its just that im ready to move on and when the time comes and the punishment is over i will be reinstated.I look at this as a tiny vacation with a lesson to it.

[*steve330*]

Why try to please everyone? You can't. Be lenient imo. If people don't like it, they can leave, but why would they come onto the internet if they're going to get easily offended anyways. I mean, it's the INTERNEETTTTT. If they're that young/naive, then their parents should be intervening, not mods.

[Simba]

In CBC where the mods can freely talk and be themselves, it's chaos - sure - but it's still a much more peaceful and less dramatic environment.

She got us.

Making cB a fun place for everybody is tricky stuff, 'naw mean.

asdf
Hamren beat me again.

[*steve330*]

*Shrug* If cB became more enjoyable to the majority and less strict, I'm sure people would still come in. Regardless of strict or non strict, people are always kinda jerks to new members, with the ever lasting exceptions. New members opinions aren't ever taken as seriously, from what I've seen. But anyways, maybe older members would come back if they heard that things lightened up big time and that no one was cracking down like they used to. Of course through saying all of this, there are always exceptions to mods (mods being mentioned because they're a minority population).

Anywho..

[*ersatz*]

And some think the opposite. Seriously, once all the members give us a reason to not be strict at all, it'll happen. It's needed. Like you said, if you don't like it, you can get over it.

(Not trying to be mean, just applying your own philosophy to yourself. )

[*steve330*]

It doesn't bug me, I have yet to get in trouble or cause serious mayhem :) Plus, I like arguing and counter-arguments make it all the more fun.

I'm just speaking from what I view as a majority's opinion. I could be grossly misinterpreting, but I believe that more people would be happy from leniency than strictness. I think when it's more lenient, people are more open to speak their mind and have a fun time, instead of worrying about all the rules and being reprimanded.

[Simba]

I wonder what it'd be like if we took a poll.

[Simba]

Lenient - 1
Strict - 0

[*steve330*]

I wonder what it'd be like if we took a poll.

Do you think we should? Feedback forum, I think a bunch of people who actually pay attention to what's going on in cB would respond.

[Simba]

Heh, I'm just curious. But sure.

Lounge usually gets more attention though.

[*steve330*]

Well if you feel the poll is out of place feel free to get rid of it. I just posted out of curiosity :)

[brooklyneast05]

I don't think a poll would be in any way effective.

i kinda agree
i mean for the most part won't the people answering the poll just be the same ones replying in this topic right now?

if more people responded, then yea i think a poll would be good

[Simba]

I don't think a poll would be in any way effective. The new members (our focus, since members make this site what it is) are too scared to post. Let alone voice their opinion, or even log into a site that hasn't proven to be very user-friendly.

Well, I meant it to be experimental. Just for fun. I mean, of course I don't expect creating some poll will end world hunger or something.

Anyway, the actual poll is anonymous.

i kinda agree
i mean for the most part won't the people answering the poll just be the same ones replying in this topic right now?

if more people responded, then yea i think a poll would be good

People respond to polls. The blogHead vs. createBlog poll went pretty well, I'd say.

[*steve330*]

Well, as Arjuna recommended, I put it in the Lounge so hopefully more people see it. The people in the Lounge aren't necessarily just the ones in here.

[*steve330*]

I'm not saying that your opinion = closed :)
I've gotten to a point to where on the internet I tend to use a lot of disclaimers because people try to put words in my mouth -.- That response just came naturally.

Anyways, I know there won't be a quick-fix (not saying things are broken - see another disclaimer ^^), but the Poll I'm assuming will turn into some sort of place to argue both points, be it strict or lenient, and allow for people to add in what they see as being strict/lenient.