Official Members Lounge Options

[sadolakced acid]

I'd like to propose an official members lounge. It'd be pretty much the same as the current lounge, except it would only be open to official members (and everyone else that's not just a common member)

be a nice way to give another perk, and give people a place to bond without all the riff raff getting in and interfering.

[HakunaMatata]

I like the idea. One, because it seems like being an Official Member doesn't mean much at all, and part of me really wishes it would. Two, it creates the incentive to become one. Three, I'd never even thought of the bonding part of it - plus, you'd *hope* it would be um. Uh. Better behaved. ("Behaved" is the wrong word. Another one is at the tip of my fingers. It's just not coming out.)

And it may just be me, but hasn't this been discussed before?

[Simba]

Yeah, I remember you bringing this up.

It's got it's up and downs, but I'm going to think about it some more.

[HakunaMatata]

Wait, so it'd be only Official Members? I assumed staff would be allowed, too.

[*alovesopure*]

^

I'd like to propose an official members lounge. It'd be pretty much the same as the current lounge, except it would only be open to official members (and everyone else that's not just a common member)

I've seen this on other forums, I guess it would be neat.

[*MyMichelle*]

BOO WAIT TIL I'M OFFICIAL MEMBER, PLZ. ;)

This is a good idea, though. I think it would encourage others to try to contribute to cB. It's for all Officials, right? Official Designer, etc. included?

[sadolakced acid]

basically, yes. Normal site rules and all would apply and it would basically be the same, just a smaller community where you're more likely to know the people and have some fun conversations.

It would bring the advantages of a smaller community to cB.

[*SinfullySweet*]

I'm for it

It would actually give something to the Official members and designers besides having the extra pm storage space.

[falsetigerlimbs]

This sounds really cool... I would just hope that everyone could be mature enough to stop it turning into a forum filled with gossip and complaints about noobs.

=/

From my experience, that's what often happens to special forums for "elite" members.

[x_curse_of_the_c...]

yeah because I used to be official member status but there wasn't really any perks besides the pm storage and I mean thats really not enough this would at least help people stay motivated.

great idea.

[*Moderator*]

Now that I think about it, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. I think it'll be a great way to have our cB members join as cB Official members. That way, things don't seem so jammed in the forums with less spamage and all of that.

[gelionie]

So would official designers/referrers be allowed...?
Just wondering.

[*superstitious*]

Well, even if they don't necessarily post a lot, they contribute a lot. I think this would a really nice gesture for all those who have paid their dues (so-to-speak) and deserve more as an Official <Insert Title>.

Just as long as newly registered members aren't made to feel alienated, I think this is a great idea.

[*Insurmountable*]

I remember this being brought up a while ago. I still think its a decent idea.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

I think this is a good idea, simply because it will hopefully encourage Official Member applications, as there really aren't that many perks at the moment.

[Jeng]

DOOOO ITTT

[Detective]

I'm for it. It's a great idea.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

ever since the xanga tools went away (which i've been searching for since cb4 came out) there really is no reason to be an official member other than the increased p/m storage and pride.

ill be expecting this when i get home from work at 8

[*ersatz*]

Maybe if we had a bit more stringent requirements for Official Membership (don't worry Michelle, there can always be exceptions and I am not proposing to make it harder for you) cause like, everyone's an Official Member. But yeah, that's a good idea because it used to be way hard to be one and it was exclusive but now since everyone has 38957896 posts, not so much.

[1angel3]

I'm for it to WHAO

[*SinfullySweet*]

Well, even if they don't necessarily post a lot, they contribute a lot.

Exactly. Even though some official designers dont post that much, they still contibute to the community.

[1angel3]

^^ I agree

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

sammi- jusun just put up some new requirements, but i'm not sure if they were put in place

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

As of right now, we have 84 official members.

We shall hold riveting conversations.

not with that attitude, young man!

[Rachel]

I'm for it to WHAO

Who are you?!


And this seems like a good idea, hopefully it won't turn into crap.

Also, this is a side note, but Michelle why aren't you an official member but Thomas C is?

[speakerboxx123]

sounds cool even though im not an official member yet.

[demolished]

I'd like to propose an official members lounge. It'd be pretty much the same as the current lounge, except it would only be open to official members (and everyone else that's not just a common member)

be a nice way to give another perk, and give people a place to bond without all the riff raff getting in and interfering.

I'm against it. Why? If all these official members knew each other so well, it would completely change the atmosphere between members and official members. This idea will isolate members to feel left out and unwelcome. Our forum boards are already filled with inside joke and private thoughts between two friends when no one understands them. This will strongly separate two people if your idea became accepted.



If you're a newcomer, you notice official members know each other so well and you don't. How would you feel? Will you be encouraged to join them when you don't know them? Would you feel different that they don't know you but they know each other? What if official members talk about things from official member forum, and you don't know what the hell they're talking about because you don't have access to private forum.


Why must official member and member not be family? ARENT WE FAMILY AS A COMMUNITY? besides, we have 84 offical members. how many are them are really active?


* i hope you're aware of the new official member rules.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

i'm sorry steven, but when did your english get that good? that was not in any way meant to be mean, but that is not how you usually talk.

on the other hand, should p/ms be taken away, then if we can't have exclusiveness?

[demolished]

what? Lol. I’m using AIM style of writing. I'm losing the habit of forum style because I’m not very active in cb forum anymore. I’m more please and comfortable to use AIM style.

[*kryogenix*]

I'm against it. Why? If all these official members knew each other so well, it would completely change the atmosphere between members and official members.

OH NO GOD FORBID MEMBERS WILL GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER

This idea will isolate members to feel left out and unwelcome. Our forum boards are already filled with inside joke and private thoughts between two friends when no one understands them. This will strongly separate two people if your idea became accepted.
If you’re a newcomer, you notice official members know each other so well and you don’t. How would you feel? Will you be encouraged to join them when you don’t know them? Would you feel different that they don’t know you but they know each other? What if official members talk about things from official member forum, and you don’t know what the hell they’re talking about because you don’t have access to private forum to join them.
Why must official member and member not be family? ARENT WE FAMILY AS A COMMUNITY?

Although createblog has a sizeable community, it lacks its own fun subculture. When I say subculture, I want to distinguish it from the retarded circlejerk that is CBchat. If anything, the various cliques and clubs that people formed do more to alienate newcomers.

Are you concerned about mod-member relationships then? How come I don't see you paranoid about the Backstage forum?

What a piece of shit.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

what? Lol. i'm using AIM style of writing. I'm losing the habit of forum style.

no. i'm saying your english in 2 of those paragraphs was perfect, which i've never seen before and wondered where it came from.

[demolished]

Haha. Nah. My English always sucks considering the fact that i was born here. In case if you didnt notice, i lacked verbs tenses, comma, and grammar. Maybe, you just dont see me post that often.

OH NO GOD FORBID MEMBERS WILL GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER

Which side is at disadvantage?

Although createblog has a sizeable community, it lacks its own fun subculture. When I say subculture, I want to distinguish it from the retarded circlejerk that is CBchat. If anything, the various cliques and clubs that people formed do more to alienate newcomers.

Are you concerned about mod-member relationships then? How come I don't see you paranoid about the Backstage forum?

What a piece of shit.

I do agree that the cb lacks fun subculture. I feel that official members serve an important role as a family. Official members should be widely active in forums (at least a fair amount of people), make an impact and history, encourage members to join by promoting positive attitude, expanding populations, being considerate rather than turning newcomer away with profanity, and learn to work well in any environment. Again, we're family and there are reasons why official member status was designed to make this site better for everyone, not to alienate others. I'm not implying that we should completely stop having fun to be in a strict working mode. Honestly, I really do hope a better solution to increase member interactivity. The idea of private forum sounds very unfortunate for the newcomers, if a private forum was created, but at least we already have communication technology such as cbchat, telephone, sub domains, myspace, or whatever social networking activity. do you think it's worth a risk to add another section?



I don't know exactly why I'm not paranoid about the backstage forum. It was micron's idea in the first place. I expect him to know what he is doing so let him do whatever he wants. also, i expect him to temporarily shut guest viewing to increase more interested members & sign ups, after he's done with the tracker. i know for a fact that many people are coming here for the tracker. Let's hope this method will work, if all old or active members are willing to be more dedicated.

[*Michelle*]

So... (I didn't read any above) but is this thing still going to happen?

[*davinci*]

The majority, if not all, of the mods support this so the only thing the admins are waiting on is Ju-Sun's approval.

[*Michelle*]

Ooh. Yay! :] Can't wait for it to get here. keke

[*Programmer*]

what if that person was downgraded from an official member? because he wasn't aloud to come on would they have exemptions?

[*Spencer*]

what if that person was downgraded from an official member? because he wasn't aloud to come on would they have exemptions?

when they make the forum, they can choose which member groups are allowed into which forum. if you are moved down to a member, the member group won't have access to the forum, meaning you won't see it.

[*superstitious*]

what if that person was downgraded from an official member? because he wasn't aloud to come on would they have exemptions?

If the person isn't an Official Member, they aren't allowed. :[ Like Spencer mentioned, only certain user groups (such as Official Members) will have access to that particular forum.

So if you get warned and you lose that status, you won't be able to access the Official Members Lounge until you regain your Official Member status.

If you have a particular issue regarding your warn level, member status or have any questions regarding this, please feel free to PM one of the Admins if your warn level is at 0 so that you can be promoted to Official Member again. PM any of moderators (including Head Staff and Admins) if it has been at least 2 weeks since you were warned (unless there were certain circumstances involved, like a long suspension) and you feel like your warn level should be lowered.

Just to let you all know, Ju-Sun has been PMd about this but he is probably way busy right now. Other than that, like Mona said, this is a go. =)

[*Spencer*]

^may i ask why we have to wait for his approval?

[*superstitious*]

Because it's his forum. =) I just would feel more comfortable having his approval. I know, the waiting sucks and I'm sorry for that.

[*Spencer*]

i understand, but did we get approval on the contest forum? obviously he trusts ya'lls judgment or he wouldn't have defend you the other day. he himself even said that he's more on the back end, so i don't see why he'd care on the front end.

[*superstitious*]

Well, the thing is, the Contest Forum isn't member group specific. I'm not exactly how he would feel about having a member group specific forum.

[*Spencer*]

there's backstage

lol

[*superstitious*]

there's backstage

lol

XD True! But he was a part of that. ;) Maybe I should have said *another* member specific forum.

[*Spencer*]

lol, ok. you win.

[no-name]

This sounds like a great idea but I also think you should include members who are avid posters but are not an official member. Like have the miniumum(Sp) requirement to be 2500 post or something like that for the members who are not official memebers.

[*superstitious*]

Well, once you reach 3500 posts, you become a permanent Official Member unless you get warned and have your Official Member status stripped. If that happens, once your warn level has been reduced to 0, have an Admin re-promote you to Official Member and you will be set.

Also, I think that it was decided that Official Designers would be allowed as well. If it wasn't, may I propose (or re-propose =X) that they are?

[MarcelleB]

damn i got a long way to go to be an official member

[*Sandraaa*]

WTF? Now I have to apply but my PPD isn't 5.0 yet! Good idea but freaking bad timing!!

[no-name]

but you are only .2 points away

[*Programmer*]

If the person isn't an Official Member, they aren't allowed. :[ Like Spencer mentioned, only certain user groups (such as Official Members) will have access to that particular forum.

So if you get warned and you lose that status, you won't be able to access the Official Members Lounge until you regain your Official Member status.

If you have a particular issue regarding your warn level, member status or have any questions regarding this, please feel free to PM one of the Admins if your warn level is at 0 so that you can be promoted to Official Member again. PM any of moderators (including Head Staff and Admins) if it has been at least 2 weeks since you were warned (unless there were certain circumstances involved, like a long suspension) and you feel like your warn level should be lowered.

Just to let you all know, Ju-Sun has been PMd about this but he is probably way busy right now. Other than that, like Mona said, this is a go. =)

I was warned 20% 1 year ago and i still have it =_= if that is the case i should be 0%
If a mod sees this please update my warning level.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Done, although you really could have just PMed someone.

Oh, actually, I'll only be able to do 10%, but I'll get back to you in 24 hours.

[*davinci*]

Then rico, in the meantime post up to 3500 posts to be a permanent official member, unless the admin is going to overlook that you have less than 5ppd becuase you were out for a lengthy amount of time.

It's having at least 3,500 OR a at least a 5.0 PPD, not both.

[*Elba*]

I think we should ban Rico from the official members lounge

[1angel3]

Who are you?!

I'm Naomi Simpson

[*Sandraaa*]

^ Are you related to the Simpsons? I'm bored.

[1angel3]

^ Are you related to the Simpsons? I'm bored.

Haha No! Everyone always pick on me about that. Me and Bart isn't cousins.

[Rachel]

I think we should ban Rico from the official members lounge

I'm Naomi Simpson

That was from so long ago.

[Spirited Away]

I don't like it. This kind of exclusivity isn't promoting subculture, it's promoting elitism. What can you talk about as an official member in the official member forum that you can't talk about in the regular forum? Is this really a "perk"? How so?

The only reason why I care is because I'm about to lose my OM status and I think this OM forum will make it hard for me to talk to my friends. But, whatever. I'm not about to post useless things to get my PPD up.

[*mzkandi*]

^ Why would you lose your OM status? You've met the post count requirement to be a permanent OM.

[1angel3]

That was from so long ago.

Well, I just now saw it

[Spirited Away]

Ah, for a moment I thought ppd was the only way you can keep OM status. lucky me! was the 3500 posts rule always there?

but still... what can i talk about in the OM Forum that I can't talk in the regular fourm?

[*mzkandi*]

We enacted the newest addition to the rule about two months ago.

As for your question, I assume not that much. I guess a lot of staff members are for it because it encourages members to become Officail Members. But I can see what you're saying.

[Spirited Away]

Oh... that's why i didn't know... this whole time i thought my OM status is going away for good.

see, i would think "be-a-mod-for-a-day" would be a good perk for OM members or something like that. but having a separate forum... i really don't see how that's a perk.

it's not fun harrassing OMs as it is harrassing noobs. not that i would harrass anyone.

looks like everyone likes the idea though... for whatever reason... oh well. at least i'm in.

[*Programmer*]

I think we should ban Rico from the official members lounge

That was from so long ago.

So much for understanding....

[*ersatz*]

Oh... that's why i didn't know... this whole time i thought my OM status is going away for good.

see, i would think "be-a-mod-for-a-day" would be a good perk for OM members or something like that. but having a separate forum... i really don't see how that's a perk.

it's not fun harrassing OMs as it is harrassing noobs. not that i would harrass anyone.

looks like everyone likes the idea though... for whatever reason... oh well. at least i'm in.

Mod for a Day is great....depending on which Official Member it is.

People just like the idea because there's nothing all that special about being an Official Member anymore, just the title, and we would like something there.

[Rachel]

I still don't think it would make OM that "special". It's not toooo hard to become an OM and eventually members who are active will gain access.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

To be honest, Fae, I kind of side with you in so far as 'what is the point?', but really, my take on it is kind of 'let the kids have what they want.'

[*Programmer*]

In ya face biatch! OM please.

[*Sandraaa*]

Has this been done yet?

[*SayBloodyMary*]

We'll let everyone know as soon as Jusun gives his approval, and/or the decision is made to move ahead.

[*Steven*]

To be honest, Fae, I kind of side with you in so far as 'what is the point?', but really, my take on it is kind of 'let the kids have what they want.'

Don't you think things like that would go better unsaid? Those kinds of things make it look as if the mods are condescending to the members, calling them kids and acting as if they're little 12 year olds and you're the parent dictating their lives but tossing them a bone w/ the member lounge.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

*shrugs*

I call everyone 'kids,' my friends, parents, and bosses included. It's just a thing. Maybe if people got to know me rather than got defensive, they would know that.

But, yes, point taken.

Oh, and there are mods who really want this too, so I would like it noted that I was being condescending to them in equal measure.

[*Steven*]

Oh, and there are mods who really want this too, so I would like it noted that I was being condescending to them in equal measure.

^As in want the OM Lounge?

I wasn't trying to be defensive. I was just pointing out the fact that when you act as if you're tossing someone a bone just to shut them up, it isn't going to come across in the friendliest of ways.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Yup.

And, no, I suppose it isn't. But I won't pretend to be hugely enthusiastic if I'm not, and I feel that giving people what they want is the only real benefit of the OM Lounge.

[*Steven*]

I'm not trying to say that you should pretend to be enthusiastic about it. I was merely pointing out that it wouldn't have hurt you to not throw in the bit about not liking it but "giving the kids what they want."

[*SayBloodyMary*]

I don't dislike it, that was the point.

But I appreciate your advice.

[*Steven*]

I don't dislike it, that was the point.

But I appreciate your advice.

Okay, maybe you don't dislike it, that's not what I'm arguing.

That last bit you threw in is an example of one of the things left better unsaid. While you might not have been trying to convey it in a cocky better-than-you manner, that's how it came out(to me, at least).

Then again, this is the internet, where all things are easily misinterpreted.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Well, I appreciated your advice. How would you have said that?

[*Steven*]

I would have included it in the sentence I was typing and possibly have thrown on a thumbs up emoticon or something. I wouldn't have hit enter a couple times and made it seem like a retort after you tried to prove a point that I wasn't arguing about.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

I find the emoticons far more patronizing, because I generally use them sarcastically. Interpretation is a bitch.

And I wasn't trying to prove anything to you, it was an incidental, because you seemed to think I dislike the idea of the OM Lounge, which I don't. That's all.

[*davinci*]

*shrugs*

I call everyone 'kids,' my friends, parents, and bosses included. It's just a thing. Maybe if people got to know me rather than got defensive, they would know that.

Bad reason.

And I would've worded your original post more appropriately.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Bad reason.

And I would've worded your original post more appropriately.

Not really. It isn't the be all and end all of it, I just think it would be more effective to get to know someone rather than default to lecture mode. But Steven was perfectly entitled to express his opinion.

And had I been aware that there was anything even vaguely inappropriate about my original post, I'd have considered it.

James. I saw your post as you quoting something, hence the quotation marks. I didn't feel that it was condecending.

Well... it wasn't a quote. But I'm glad you took it the right way.

[*Steven*]

I don't like it. This kind of exclusivity isn't promoting subculture, it's promoting elitism. What can you talk about as an official member in the official member forum that you can't talk about in the regular forum? Is this really a "perk"? How so?

The only reason why I care is because I'm about to lose my OM status and I think this OM forum will make it hard for me to talk to my friends. But, whatever. I'm not about to post useless things to get my PPD up.

To be honest, Fae, I kind of side with you in so far as 'what is the point?', but really, my take on it is kind of 'let the kids have what they want.'

Ah kk, I just interpreted it that way after seeing Fae say she didn't like it then you saying you kind of side with her

[*Spencer*]

I just think it would be more effective to get to know someone rather than default to lecture mode.

you are the exact same way. in no way am i saying i'm perfect, but you are also quick to judge.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

^ I don't think that's true. In fact, I actively refute that statement.

Steven, fine, I see what you mean. No, what I meant was that I agreed in so far as I didn't see that it would be extremely effective in acomplishing anything. However, I don't think it would necessarily be detrimental, and thus if some people want it, I'm happy to support it on their behalf.

I neither actively like nor dislike it.

[*Programmer*]

o title i missed you!

[*Steven*]

^ I don't think that's true. In fact, I actively refute that statement.

Steven, fine, I see what you mean. No, what I meant was that I agreed in so far as I didn't see that it would be extremely effective in acomplishing anything. However, I don't think it would necessarily be detrimental, and thus if some people want it, I'm happy to support it on their behalf.

I neither actively like nor dislike it.

Fair enough :)