JOCKERS AMONG US!, be cautious with these people Options

[1angel3]

As a member on CB I ran across some jockers, that jocked me. I'd like to announce them because if they jocked me, they would jock YOU, so when they submit a layout, check out their codes and make sure they're not your codes. A jocker is always a jocker.

Jockers:
Chiriki
Delicioustyle*
Ultimate MySpace

If you know of any more jockers, list them here. I think we have a right to know who our jockers are. These jockers are most active in website.

The name with the * means they've jocked twice.

Edit: Fixed most grammatical errors..
- Cristy

This post has been edited by Synesthesia: Jun 15 2008, 12:06 PM

Reason for edit: The "amoung" and other grammatical errors bothered me too much. - Cristy

[YourSuperior]

Hmm, the moderators will definitely take care of this.

[1angel3]

They already been deleted but if you want to see what they look like, I try to find them.

[1angel3]

Here is the link to Chiriki jock from me Peaceful Sea

And here is the preview of the layout that Delicioustyle jock from me The Wreckers - he eventually change the code, this layout is on here now but this time he didn't take my code, but this what it look like. I told him to credit or recode it, so he recode it. The first layout he took my CSS.

[demolished]

Amazing. these geogerous layout's codings are jocked.

[falsetigerlimbs]

I had a jocker, but she gave me credit so we're cool now. Part of the reason that I wanted to come to an agreement with her was because the layouts she made were cute and I didn't want to see them go away. =/

On the layouts below, I noticed that people had called the creator out on jocking in the comments, but nothing was done about it. But it's really a shame, because the Angelina Jolie one is really pretty:

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=18382
(Oamazing's code, according to SinfullySweet)

http://fawaz.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=17871
OmarGarcia's code, according to him.

[1angel3]

Yea I came to agreement with one of my jockers too. Why isn't those layouts deleted?? What are the name/link of the jockers??

[freeflow]

Here's my suggestion. If you see a jocker report it and don't comment on it. We can't read any comment and its being takin care of. The layout by O amazing I'm waiting for her to PM me back. Usually I would of thought she would of PMed one of the mods so I don't know if they made some sort of comprimise to allow them to keep it up. She seemed like a person who'd report it. So I've pmed her today (since I just found out a hour ago) and I'm trying to contact her in otherwise to see if they made some sort of deal and she said it was ok before its immediately removed and other action is taken.

I need proof before the second one so if the real creator will show us the layout with the code or something.

When people don't report it , its hard to know if they made a sort of comprimise earlier. I could remove the layouts immediately but its not fair if they did make something of the sort, etc. So yea. If you guys see a jocker report it. The mods don't have super powers (DANGGGG!) so we can't get to every comment you post sadly.

Hopefully a report button in the profiles/layout sections can be installed .


Jockers come and Jockers go its life really.

[1angel3]

^ Yea I agree, hey I check out OmarGarcia's code and it was indeed jock, but he is aware of it.

[*SinfullySweet*]

The angelina jolie layout was indeed jocked. 100% Sure. I viewed that layout, and thought the hovers, and the content sections look REALLY familiar, almost exactly the same as O amazings. So I took the code of the Angelina Jolie layout, and O Amazings Trash world layout, pasted both the codes on wordpad, and clicked both documents back and forth. The coding is exactly the same.

[freeflow]

I didn't say it wasn't. As I said I already PMed her about it and I'm trying to find other methods to contact her faster. If she changed her mind after commenting the person, not saying she did, but its possible because it happened before. Its not fair to the person.

She seemed like a person who'd report it. So I've pmed her today (since I just found out a hour ago) and I'm trying to contact her in otherwise to see if they made some sort of deal and she said it was ok before its immediately removed and other action is taken.

Until then I'm not going to do anything about it and I prefer to ask her over the person that submitted the layout themselves.

Just incase she said it was ok its better off waiting till she gets back to me. Its just a better way of approaching things.

[falsetigerlimbs]

Yeah, I think that before any jocked layouts are deleted, the original code creator should definitely be contacted.

[OmarGarcia]

Yeap it is my code i tag all my layouts with
"""odgsvlsomf""" so i can track my layouts and that one has it
i also see some others but at lease they change it a bit but that one is my full code just change the images LOL

[1angel3]

^ you should get it deleted, but thats a great idea, I should tag all my codes too

[*SinfullySweet*]

I didn't say it wasn't. As I said I already PMed her about it and I'm trying to find other methods to contact her faster. If she changed her mind after commenting the person, not saying she did, but its possible because it happened before. Its not fair to the person.
Until then I'm not going to do anything about it and I prefer to ask her over the person that submitted the layout themselves.

Just incase she said it was ok its better off waiting till she gets back to me. Its just a better way of approaching things.

Hmm.. toya, the creater of the Jocked Angelina jolie layout still hasnt replied? I know for sure that Oamazing has replied to her.

[freeflow]

I did not email the creator of the layout I PMed Oamazing. Its her call so yea. She hasn't replied back to me. Even if you notice someone jocking not all people want the layout removed. Which is the mature way about going about it. As I stated before I'm waiting for OAMAZING to reply back to me. Till then the layout stays.

[1angel3]

Well this thread was originally to link the jockers to keep track on them, so people do that ok, link all the jockers you know of.

[Masta_Shih]

I don't understand, these people are getting layouts deleted because they edited someone else's stylesheet? Since when was this language able to be copyrighted?

[OmarGarcia]

my did not edit the stylesheet they change the images with my name in code! so i cant be responsible for something i didnt do.

i guess if they change the code it wont be that bad.

[1angel3]

Yea, you should at least make them credit you, you work hard right?

[*SinfullySweet*]

I don't understand, these people are getting layouts deleted because they edited someone else's stylesheet? Since when was this language able to be copyrighted?

No, its not that. Imagine, working so hard, spending hours, even days on something. Coding, making it perfect. You work hard on what you do. Only to have someone take it change it, and claim it as they made it.

[*SinfullySweet*]

I meant to ask this earlier, are they jocking css or like DIV layouts?

I think they are jocking both. As stated, by 1angel3, they've jocked codes, and css.

[Masta_Shih]

No, its not that. Imagine, working so hard, spending hours, even days on something. Coding, making it perfect. You work hard on what you do. Only to have someone take it change it, and claim it as they made it.

Sure, I know the feeling. I've even had people change the images to ones they made themselves. Personally, I don't mind them changing the image. What I mean is that if they can change it so that it's different, isn't that the same amount of effort? Where did we get all of "our" coding from? Even if we typed it ourself, can we copyright a language?

[falsetigerlimbs]

Sure, I know the feeling. I've even had people change the images to ones they made themselves. Personally, I don't mind them changing the image. What I mean is that if they can change it so that it's different, isn't that the same amount of effort? Where did we get all of "our" coding from? Even if we typed it ourself, can we copyright a language?

Yeah, I find it hard to believe that everyone who has layouts on this site figured out all of the myspace CSS for themselves. A lot of us must have learned at least some of it from other sources. I know that I have used a lot of people's scripts for my own layouts, for hiding various things. I have credited them on my layout pages, but since I didn't come up with all of the hiding codes myself, I can't claim all of the code as my own.

[*SinfullySweet*]

What I mean is that if they can change it so that it's different, isn't that the same amount of effort?

It depends on the way you code. Some people look all over for scripts they need to put something together. Of coure, you cant copyright a language. This is like doing a chore , while your brother takes the credit that he finished the chore.

[1angel3]

well no you can't copyright a language but if you sat down and hand coded it yourself, you should take credit, the person that took it didn't code it thereself so they should credit, its only right

[OmarGarcia]

ok this is another example of stealing my work
this is my layout it is under someone else name & they say that the picture is of them but it is of me!!!

[freeflow]

^ I Removed it. ( I remember reviewing that layout in the past.)

[luku]

What happens to jockers? Because there is this person that is jocking me, but I warned him. I'm just hoping for a response.

[1angel3]

^ report him to a staff member. Who is he?

[*SinfullySweet*]

^ report him to a staff member. Who is he?

You guys really shouldnt be giving out names in public. Just PM a mod, and they will review the issue.

[CrotchetTheLeper]

Well excuse me for saying this, but you can't jock CSS. All you did was put in a few elements, to an already built style sheet. If you created your own than bravo. But it was based on an a langauge that was created already for you.

As far as DIV layouts go, that property does belong to you, becuase you did make the image, which is usually the most important part, and the positioning which takes a long time.

But I don't see holding a grudge over the internet for someone stealing something that you made a good way to spend your time. If they are making money from your layout, and you feel mad about that, then you should have sold it too.

well thats my take on it.

Yeah, I 100% agree with everything you said.

If a Div is jocked, then it's a bit more understandable for someone to go out of their way to rat out the Jocker. But when it comes to basic CSS and standard Myspace layouts, I personally don't think it's that much of a big deal unless the resemblence between the original and the jocked version are quite a lot alike.

I mean, yeah, all in all it's a pretty sneaky thing to do but, like someone said earlier, if they made a great layout with it, and it's not too much of a reseblence to yours, I'd just let it go.

[1angel3]

^ Well this guy jock me again (You prob could guess his name) and he could was exactly like mines, that's how I could tell it's was mine. Because he made the same mistake I made in my code. People don't do that.

[CrotchetTheLeper]

Yeah if the Jocker's version was a lot like the original then that'd piss me off too. Haha

[1angel3]

^ yeah i got it deleted and he got mad and called me a whore, haha. That shows how immature he is.

[CrotchetTheLeper]

He called you a whore?! Ugh, that is really immiture.
I'm glad it got deleated then, haha.

[1angel3]

^ Yeah it's still there, go on my profile and you see it but its in italian, you'll have to translate it.

[CrotchetTheLeper]

"ma ngul a kitemmuort!!" ?

I'm guessing that's it, haha.

What a jerk.

[1angel3]

^ I guess it is

[*SinfullySweet*]

There is a big fat report button just waiting to be tapped

[ScriptedLove]

Yeah, i had just made this layout one to two days ago the least (FashionWeek Part II: Tokyo) and (http://www.myspace.com/weaverd316) basically stole the coding and everything is basically the SAME. Except hers is crappy.

[1angel3]

^ Yeah, people is always taking people's myspace layout. If you're going to jock at least alter it so it won't look the same as the layout to stole from. Jeeze people.

[SharperMyspace]

I don't understand, these people are getting layouts deleted because they edited someone else's stylesheet? Since when was this language able to be copyrighted?

Yeah, I find it hard to believe that everyone who has layouts on this site figured out all of the myspace CSS for themselves. A lot of us must have learned at least some of it from other sources. I know that I have used a lot of people's scripts for my own layouts, for hiding various things. I have credited them on my layout pages, but since I didn't come up with all of the hiding codes myself, I can't claim all of the code as my own.

I agree 100% with you!

[libertie]

For standard layouts unless someone has done something truly unique with their layout that has been copied, it's true that most of them look the same and are going to be using the same classes and IDs anyway. It's true that in a lot of cases you can't really claim ownership of a stylesheet, but the issue is taking someone else's CSS and just changing some colors/images and using the exact same layout. That takes absolutely no work and is pretty low from a designer's standpoint, don't you think?

I personally don't care if people use/modify/copy my code, though, so I guess I'm not too terribly sympathetic in these situations.

[vjwinehouse]

AND THE USERLAYOUTS ARE BEING STOLEN : http://www.ultimatemyspace.com/myspace_layouts/div.html .

[rnicron]

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[ToxicTaco]

you sound like prince

[rnicron]

watcchuu talllkkn boouutt willliiss

[tokyo-rose]

Moved to Feedback.

This is ridiculous. I like how there's no way to contact them except to ask about their privacy policy.
Thanks for letting us know.

Quit spamming.

[lkajsfklajskds]

you sound like prince

people are doing this all the time. what crap =\

[moorepocket]

geez. What did they jock?


How could you not hold a grudge? People just took all your hard works and call it theirs. If you design a dress and someone copy your design and make million out of it. Shouldn't you be entitle to it.

Designers are not one-stop shop for quick layout that you can manipulate and make it yours. Go learn like we did.

[1angel3]

geez. What did they jock?
How could you not hold a grudge? People just took all your hard works and call it theirs. If you design a dress and someone copy your design and make million out of it. Shouldn't you be entitle to it.

Designers are not one-stop shop for quick layout that you can manipulate and make it yours. Go learn like we did.

This topic is old, so it's been awhile since the people I reported jocked me. Oh I agree with you. That's my whole point.

You can e-mail them at privacy@ultimatemyspace.com

[tokyo-rose]

You can e-mail them at privacy@ultimatemyspace.com

I know, hence why I said "except about their privacy policy."

[moorepocket]

oh, but still they could do it again. Once i been jocked, i keep a close eye on them.

[1angel3]

oh, but still they could do it again. Once i been jocked, i keep a close eye on them.

Yeah me too. That was one of the reasons I made this topic to list all the jockers but some people didn't think that was a good idea.

Oh my bad

[Insurmountable]

I don't know why you guys get your panties tangled about this. It happens, and there isn't any way of stopping it unless you would like to remove every thing you have ever created off of the internet.

1angel3, if there hasn't been a post in a topic within the week, please don't bump the topic. Thanks

[1angel3]

I don't know why you guys get your panties tangled about this. It happens, and there isn't any way of stopping it unless you would like to remove every thing you have ever created off of the internet.

1angel3, if there hasn't been a post in a topic within the week, please don't bump the topic. Thanks

I didn't bump it, someone else did. I forgot about the topic to be honest.

[Insurmountable]

This has happened before, and more than likely nothing is going to happen but I will take the time to contact them and discuss some type of agreement to get them to stop collecting layouts from createblog.com

Although, to be quite honest they probably have it written somewhere on their website that they don't hold any rights or are the designers of the works posted on the website.

Oh and merged this topic with the other JOKERS AMONG US topic >_>

The last post was on May 1st and then you posted in it on June 9th...Thats a big difference in time.

[tokyo-rose]

Although, to be quite honest they probably have it written somewhere on their website that they don't hold any rights or are the designers of the works posted on the website.

Maybe I didn't look around enough, but even if they do have that posted somewhere, it doesn't mean they can mass-jock layouts from so many people. D:

[1angel3]

I didn't think it was problem because it was on the first page and towards the top of the list at the time.

[Insurmountable]

Well to be honest, if you go to any websites set up like this, they more than likely didn't make any of the layouts. A lot of people just made websites like that to make money from myspace traffic.

Most of them really don't care who's layouts they are either, and I tried contacting them but it didn't go through. Apparently the e-mail is wrong that they provided. lol, figures.

[1angel3]

I'm confuse now because I can't tell rather the other post was to my original topic or the other topic. My topic was to list all jockers on here and the other topic was just reporting a website.

[Insurmountable]

Well just look at the dates, or start quoting the posts you want to reply to. I just don't find it nesccary for there to be a bunch of topics for sites that have our layouts on them. There isn't anything we can do about it most of the time, so if their just merged together then its fine.

[SharperMyspace]

Well to be honest, if you go to any websites set up like this, they more than likely didn't make any of the layouts. A lot of people just made websites like that to make money from myspace traffic.

Most of them really don't care who's layouts they are either, and I tried contacting them but it didn't go through. Apparently the e-mail is wrong that they provided. lol, figures.

There are actually places where you can buy a ZIP folder with a whole myspace layout site in it. It contains all the layouts and everything. You just change the colors of the layout. So people do that just to make money.

How do you think those websites that have a CRAPPY site layout have 1000's of layouts? They steal them or buy them.

Here, look at THIS! You can buy a site, complete with THOUSANDS of layouts, graphics and cods for only $25!

* Layouts Gallery (Over 3,000 sample layouts and backgorunds)
Graphics Gallery (Over 10,000 sample graphics alltogether)

That makes me so mad that people pay $25 and then get millions of hits while they sit around doing nothing. While I work my butt of everyday on my site, and get only a few hundred hits.

[Insurmountable]

There are actually places where you can buy a ZIP folder with a whole myspace layout site in it. It contains all the layouts and everything. You just change the colors of the layout. So people do that just to make money.

How do you think those websites that have a CRAPPY site layout have 1000's of layouts? They steal them or buy them.

Here, look at THIS! You can buy a site, complete with THOUSANDS of layouts, graphics and cods for only $25!
That makes me so mad that people pay $25 and then get millions of hits while they sit around doing nothing. While I work my butt of everyday on my site, and get only a few hundred hits.

haha yea I know, I use to sell layouts that I created to sites like that I guess I just never cared and I was getting paid for it XD But getting a deal of $25 for thousands of layouts and stuff is stupid.

[Just_Dream]

There are actually places where you can buy a ZIP folder with a whole myspace layout site in it. It contains all the layouts and everything. You just change the colors of the layout. So people do that just to make money.

How do you think those websites that have a CRAPPY site layout have 1000's of layouts? They steal them or buy them.

This reminds me of NarutoFan (damn that Tazmo), where the site administrator would charge a monthly fee for members to download manga scanlations and subbed anime! It's so stupid because scanlations are released for free, and anime subbers are not charging anyone. So websites like NarutoFan are reaping off the efforts of scanlating and subbing teams. It pisses me off, since NarutoFan CLAINS to scanlate/sub. >=[ And their servers are not even faster either.


Anyways, ignoring that rant, woah Holly, you can sell layouts? :O I didn't know that... haha

[Insurmountable]

lol yea, when I didn't have a job and needed money I use to make layouts for these people that owned myspace layout websites. They pay you per layout and you just sell them the rights and stuff for everything. Now if I ever really need money I just code a band myspace for a band that I can find that needs a good layout.

[SammyTheHeadbutt]

this isnt a jocker as such but i didnt knw where i should report this....


this person has been saying they are the "official createit's inspector"
and has been rating some peoples layout and sometimes making pointless comments

although i may be wrong i dont believe that they are who they say they are,
if someone could check it out im sure many would appreciate it :)
:)


http://createbloginspector1.createblog.com/

[1angel3]

this isnt a jocker as such but i didnt knw where i should report this....
this person has been saying they are the "official createit's inspector"
and has been rating some peoples layout and sometimes making pointless comments

although i may be wrong i dont believe that they are who they say they are,
if someone could check it out im sure many would appreciate it :)
:)
http://createbloginspector1.createblog.com/

OMG that's so stupid, yeah it's not a jocker but I don't think there's anything we can do about it. Whoever they are it pointless. I bet they have to accounts on here.

[austinoutloud]

So I think this is the right place to post this.

I was randomly going to websites and found this one, and this guy apparently jocket a bunch of crap from like...everywhere. AND I KNOW I've seen his banner before, somewhere on DeviantArt. So yeah. I was just wondering if anyone knew who made it so they could get notified.

One of the sites he jocked from - Blog http://fioriture.org/2008/06/11/meet-our-latest-stealer/

'His' site - http://paper-sky.org/site/index.php

[fixtatik]

i supposed you have to expect that from an 11 year old? they're getting younger every day. i'm still waiting for a kindergartner to come raving through here.

he sort of "tried" to credit the creator of his banner with a link to deviant art. of course, at 11 he probably doesn't realise that, oh, deviant art is a community.

[Melissa]

I guess it's annoying, but s/he already wrote a big rant on her site about it, so why post it up here again? The kid's eleven. Back when I was eleven, I thought I could take anything that showed up on google images.

[bigtrey90]

i know the artist, i notified him of the situation.

[tokyo-rose]

Merged with Feedback's "JOCKERS AMONG US."

[SammyTheHeadbutt]

hello,
i submitted a layout a few weeks ago and it has been resubmitted
without my permission here


http://www.createblog.com/layouts/code.php?id=29103


by Lol-Lyts.

could i get this removed somehow and report the person.

thankyou.

[karmakiller]

Taken care of. Sorry about that, thank you for letting us know.

[shoryuken]

diz thrad...

y namm jockkurr.. y noo namm fockkur...